“Arnolds body would not win today” Yeah and thats the problem. Arnie walked the line perfectly of how much muscle his body could carry before starting to look absolutely ridiculous (and he looked best when he wasn't at his biggest). Most pro body builders these days are so far over that line. Bigger isn't better.
The last guy, Hany Rambod, said things have evolved and he used an example that 30 years ago a racecar getting up to 200 mph on the straight part of the track was unheard of.... LoL 🤣 seriously? In Nascar, cars were hitting over 200 mph over 50 years ago. What a dork!
exactly, somebody tell that guy when people talk about: "things have evolved" it should be for the betterment of something and not for the worst of it...
@@joaoalcantara6676 Disagreed, his lower body was perfect too. People are over developed today. Your legs are not supposed to be so large as to inhibit walking. His were perfectly proportioned.
Luizfigobr I agree. It's about classic qualities. From ancient Greece and Rome, little has changed in the classic style of bodybuilding because it's about the classic beauty of symmetry and the development of the human form...
arnold forgot the tons of steroids that he got at his time he didn't take GH and other substances that are in use today for the only reason that at his time were not at disposal .non for this reason l like the exagerate size of nowaday's bodybuilders,me too find them awful , but arnold is the last one that should speak
YOUR answer is ridicolous and shows the few knowledge you have about this topic ,be realistic arnold as all the big guys of his time got great quantity of roids for this reason he would be better don't touch this topic .
He sure was and Arnold would beat the shit out of today's body people not even bodybuilders they are just body people that stick needles in every part of the body and eat &,shit all day and pump up
“Do you like a redhead or do you like a brunette?” No dude, the comparison should be “do you want be a Greek god or do you want to to be a mix between predator and hellboy”
Arnold is 100% right. I remember seeing pumping iron and his earlier films like Conan the Barbarian and Commando. I wanted to look like him. I wanted that physique. I have NEVER thought like that about the modern bodybuilders.
Indeed, i am not a fan of body building, but i see pumping iron 2 the woman, and Rachel Mclisgh, Cory Everson were so sexy and modern female body builders, look like Gorilas in bikini, , you realize they are abusing drugs with just looking them
“evolved”, “changed”, “evolved”, “changed”..... anybody in their right SANE minds would say an Arnold-esque physique is more aesthetically pleasing than bubble guts.
I think it's absurd how some of these bodybuilders think that having an oversized gut with abs a good look it got so bad that they came up with a name for it is named palumboism most people think they are out of shape but really it's testosterone and other supplements they are taking for instance there is a guy named big Lenny he is one of the worst cases ove Columbo ism I've ever seen but I'm nobody to talk
Unrelated to your comment but I see your profile picture so…. YOU FUCKING HYPED FOR SAGA OF TANYA SEASON 2 FINALLY IM SO FUCKNG EXCITED LITERALLY MY FAVOURITE ANIME OF ALL TIME
Gotta agree with Arnold on this one. Today's Bodybuilding is about packing muscles on top of muscles on top of muscles. The common theme is ''Get Bigger''. Back in Arnold's day and beyond, it was about getting big muscles of course but it also included sculpting and shaping your body to a certain shape. There was control and finesse in the muscle growth.
I agree , they are trying to become some kind strong man.....for a strong man competition its good to have stomach like that because it helps in lifting heavy things......but for bodybuilding definitely not.
Yeah he says that like it’s a point for Arnold being wrong, when actually it encapsulates Arnold’s argument. Young men in 2021 want to look like Arnold or similar size Instagram guys, but not a single one wants to look like top 5 Olympia guys.
Whatever drug that chubby guy is Taking I WANT SOME!!!.... Arnold's condition was pure art😇. I would sell my soul for that body😅, that body would stand out from everyone else period👌
am pretty sure he mean the last guy. I don't see where else he would be looking at lmao. RIP this sport..... if the fucking judgments were all sent to jail because they took payment this sport will get fixed asap....
Yeah But you have to consider everyone "Back in the day" used steroids so yeah they looked like greek gods but you have to give some credit to the people now for getting to where they are without steroids Arnold In an ABC Interview: "I have no regrets about it," said Schwarzenegger, "because at that time, it was something new that came on the market, and we went to the doctor and did it under doctors' supervision. We were experimenting with it. It was a new thing. So you can't roll the clock back and say, 'Now I would change my mind on this.' "
luther trump u have to consider that the use of roids nowadays is even worse. Dorian Yates also said that the old bodybuilders were way more ripped, looked harder than todays stuffed bodybuilders who are big but look squishier compared to the old scold BB's
Graham Van Dyke just glad the ifbb realized not everyone wants to see that and finally made classic physic, which in my opinion will over take open body biulding
Rich Piana has a way of summing up and respecting Olympian ideals to the max that somehow belies his pop mass monster image, that really surprised me. He’s more complex and deeper than I realised. The man had genuine integrity and respect for the sport. Never judge a book by its cover - memo to self. RIP
no, you are wrong, Arnold is the reason that people know what steroids can give u as a benefit and as an harm shit. He just told everyone the truth, he was the real deal and still is
Aaron Anderson I was thinking exactly that rich even admits he just wants to look like a mutant/freak years ago tho he actually had a damn good physique he's just fucked it
Yeah he's probably just got body dismorphia, it's a shame that lots of bodybuilders have it they put in so much work it's a shame they can't be proud of their accomplishment
People give Rich a ton of undue shit. He has owned up about all his steroids, synthol and HGH etc. He is building his own body the way he wants to. He always says that Arnold was the best.
he made no sense with the formula one comparison either.. those f1 cars back in the days where absolute monsters with their v12 engines, and incredible speed
@@CarboKill please don,t take my comment as such.. just that i dont take past inventions to be right doesn,t mean i dont love them.. i have no problem with change.. but let it come with reality and with a pace,
The funny thing is when you watch bodybuilding shows in Korea and Japan and other countries. They still have that V shape. I feel like it's mostly in America where that changes happening
2:50 - “Arnold’s physique was amazing but wouldn’t win today”. Therein lies the problem. His physique was amazing. Bodybuilders today have become disgusting. Bigger and “newer” isn’t necessarily better.
@@dxic962 Trainer: what? Greek god id evolving... Tut tut tut tut tut tut tut tut Pweeeeng🌟 Congratulations👋 your Greek god evvolved into Preggy Turtle!
@@s21411 what do you understand by 'gone too far'? Since you failed to understand, it means there has been an encouragement of an overuse and abuse of steroids in body-building. He did not imply steroids should be banned. Personally, I do not approve of using any form of steroids in an attempt to form one's body into a perceived desirable aesthetic of any sort. I would only advocate natural means. But hey, it's body building right?
Leto Atreides who have died with 100 percent links to steriods? Many have from diuretics. Many guys use other drugs such as coke and have died from that. Give me the long list of body builders who have died! There are 1000 upon 1000 who use and abuse steriods and yet you can’t give a list.
Ain't that the truth. Bodybuilding back then was all about being in the best shape of your life and being healthy and fit. Even though at times back then they did take steroids but not as crazy as today's bodybuilders.
I agree with you. But Arnolds way wasn’t exactly healthy either. He’s had open heart surgery a couple of times. And he doesn’t really look all that good today either. A lot of people spread these pictures with Cahlings body photoshopped to Arnold’s head and many believe that they’re real pics.
@@DeathWithinTenSteps Arnold still looks good tho to be 74. He's still decently built for his age too. Bodybuilding now has a lot of people who will inject their muscles to make them appear bigger because it's went from looking good, to having the biggest muscles
I've never been into bodybuilding, and have certainly never tried it myself. But When I look at guys from Arnold's era, I think they look amazing and well-proportioned. When I look at the guys nowadays they don't even look human. One of them inspires me and makes me think how beautiful a human body can look, and the other makes me wonder at how grotesque they can look. It is a subjective sport, but I'm pretty sure they are still supposed to look human.
You mean Calum? Arnold himself already congratulated him for his physique. I don't agree that he looks like those pregnant dudes. He has a V shaped body, if you check out when he's on season.
Not just Arnold, but all the others from that great era, Sergio, Franco, Serge Nubret, Lou Ferrigno, Robbie Robinson, Frank Zane. They were all amazing!
Whats this last guy talking about? F1 cars where faster in the 90's. They had to slow them down cuz there where to meany deaths. They should do the same for body building so people stop dying from there harts exploding, or end up like Ronnie in a wheelchair you don't see Arnold walking with a walker.
They had to have restrictions on downforce and stuff later on as well so racing would be more entertaining. F1 cars today would be so much faster if there were no restrictions, but they can’t have that because there would be no entertainment and overtakes. Same with bodybuilding. You have to slow down sometimes to make things fun to watch, or in this case aesthetic and nice to look at.
old school bodybuilders had a physique that if you were to etch that as a statue now, 300 years down the line people would still look at it and admire it like how we admire the statues of Greek gods .... if you were to a etch a statue with current body builders physique, people after 300 years will wonder what kind of monstrous species that was that would have roamed earth.... most modern bodybuilders look like a pregnant ninja turtles.
@Souf yeah, but I see his point. It hasn’t as much evolved more so than have strayed from the original point of the sport. Body building even in its beginning was intended to show the peak human condition while still being artistic with symmetry and grace in their form
@@curtisjohnson2433 Uh no.... If I take a red car and paint it blue, then after a few months paint it red again, I haven’t “DEpainted” the car. Same concept in biology: “devolving” by definition, does not exist.
It went from a Superman look to the Incredible Hulk. I think the reason is that it is easier for a judge to put 2 contestants next to each and see who is bigger than to evaluate symetri, beauty and posing which requires more talent, knowledge and skill from the judge. Size is an easy metric.
2:41 this guy talks BS for 3 minutes. Bodybuilding has not evolved, it has devolved. Arnold put it in the plainest and most honest terms: would you like to have a body like Steve Reeves? Hell yes, the man was a Greek statue. Would I like to look like one of today's shaved apes? No. Not in the least.
exactly. sure, people like and want to look 'big', but they also want to look shredded and look/feel healthy, not look not-natural on stage. If these Mr Olympia winners of today are winners in that guy's eyes and his answer is that bodybuilding has evolved, then what has it evolved into? A winning sport? Or one where it's obvious to the casual and hardcore eyes that those guys don't look good on stage. They're the same type of massbuilders who don't live to see 50 because how 'bodybuilding has evolved' has also killed them. I'm sure that guy didn't think of that logic and it's painfully true. Arnold had one of the best bodies EVER, and he looked healthy and he didn't look like a balloon. He took the sport to heights that bodybuilders before him could've never imagined, and guys like that guy clearly needs to get out of the business because that mindset is ruining the sport and the athletes involved.
Zyzz also died from apparent drug use.Theres certain limits a body can handle before it screws up your appearance and your health. To the extent of these different divisions, sure, boydbuilding has evolved, but not what that guy is refering to by 'evolved'.
When I watch the film "Pumping Iron" I get pumped and excited to look and be like Arnold and his buds. Body builders now are like watching a freak show.
Its because he used a very useful type of training called volume training which is great for throwing on mass. Stop speaking like u know what ur talking about
@Лука Перковић it's a hard one for me. Menzer has less traps which is kinda gay but it also gives him a super hero look. Arnold has more traps which is super straight and makes him look like a hulk though. Plus I'm sure Arnold could fix it with the right poses. Also menzer has better abs. But Arnold's chest is unparalleled.
I'm a lifelong bodybuilder since 1979 I love Frank Zane and Rachel McLeish they are such an inspiration!!!Nobody's stomach should be hanging out on stage.Remember Frank Zane's "Vaccuum Pose"?That is art.
A lot of respect for Rich Piana because even though he wasn’t after the classic physique he had a lot of respect for that type of body building and wanted to bring that back.
Evolved from the beauty of Arnold to hippos standing on their hind legs?... evolved is not an accurate word for this... it has DEVOLVED!! ...... DEVOLVED!!
Jim Jones yeah but if you put arnie next to Chris Hemsworth in Thor or something, 90% of people would say they prefer that, so where does that land us?
How do women feel about these modern guys losing all their ass? I mean they're trying to make it look like a chicken nugget. Arnold is right, also he's pissed that his whole body looks like a chicken nugget next to them.
With respect to the last guy, race car driving isn't an aesthetic sport, this is. And it will be hurt by getting away firm aesthetics and moving toward pure extreme muscle.
RandomTryhard 27 Right? this Derpy Fish kid is clueless ..Rich is an extreme body builder who himself says symmetry and aesthetically pleasing is a champion body build @Derpy Fish learn to read instead of saying random bs
It's apparent Derpy Fish was merely pointing out how screwed he is then since his own body is not very symmetrical. @Derpy Fish It's all in the genetics man, some people just don't have symmetrical abs due to genetics and no amount of training will fix that. We all have things we can't change about us, such is life. :D
@@amitz9820 that Arnold would barely win a national show? Or that the sport is evolved? He’s just a coach who makes money off his personal brand and training the top pros now so he doesn’t want people trashing them because they’re essentially trashing his coaching and his clients.
The 80s and 90s had the general public interested in bodybuilding because they were asthetically pleasing to the eye. Guys like Mike Mentzer and Arnold Schwarzenegger had main stream interest. I couldn't name more than a couple bodybuilders now.
Milocinia: And "Lou Ferigno" from back then (The Incredible Hulk) - he was a very huge name. But although many guys are still bodybuilding these days I cannot name even one. But as long as they're having fun though, that's all good.
I feel like health needs to be more emphasised in todays society. We don't want to see people going down the wrong path and be later treated as a normality which is absurd.
He's so right, I'm not a body-builder and not interested in it, but if you look at Arnold's body in Pumping Iron, winning that title, it looked so aesthethic and natural. Just beautiful. These guys today look like super-sized babies, freaks of nature.
It was the volume, but you have to remember that guys in the 70's and 80's weren't using insulin and HGH. Those two are the main drugs that have caused those bloated bullies and unnatural proportions we see now. They also happen to be two of the most dangerous drugs for bodybuilders as well
I think what he means is the drug dosages were much lower to the point where it did not seem so abnormal to use steroids. Today they add many other compounds to their routine.
Rafaelpotosino1 we're not talking about what people take, either way you need to work hard to get to where he was, no one had genetics like Arnold he is a legend
Barbra lol I'm not criticizing him I take that stuff myself just like to have a laugh at the people thinking supplements do anything. Gear + hard work and diet = legends
So by Rambod's explanation, if I work as hard as Branch Warren but still look like I do now, which could best be described as."pretty jacked and lean, but nowhere close to a pro," I should be in contention for the Olympia because I worked really hard.
@@jonjino As you said it is about personal perference and perspective- and Arnold's preference is that body building is about making glorious bodies (looking good) rather than extreme huge muscles (and stomachs). Thats his subjectivity
@@jonjino So risking your life with Insulin and diuretics is ok for the sport you dumbass? This shit not only causes bubble gut, it kills you, but you think, hey, it's personal preference? No, they should straight up ban it from bodybuilding, as the monstrosity oversized bubble guts that are the norm today are only because of these dangerous drugs, as anabolics and HGH don't have the horrible health risks or cause sudden death and allow bodybuilders to retain their small waists. It should be set in stone that anyone competing with the horrendous looking bubble gut, should be instantly disqualified, and this will not only weed out those taking these dangerous drugs to look that horrible, but will also save lives and hopefully deter others. Lately Arnold has become weak and started joining in on the leftist pussy attitude, but i will always commend him for making this stance against this absolutely stupid practice of risking your life to win the weirdest looking person in the world competition
Um that is a stupid comment Arnold would win easy, he was a gorgeous man, I’m not gay, his build was a Greek god status. He is old now do not try To compare him to young men. Fucktard
Benjamin Hawkhurst your misunderstanding what he put, a guy like Arnold wouldn’t win today because today it’s all about drugs and massive size and a freak show. That is the problem with the sport.
Brfić McBrfy um Arnold was a steroid massive freak also. But his build was way superiority. Many guys were bigger than him back then also. He had the better build. He stood on stage next to Lou ferigno, he was tiny compared to Lou. His build was always why he won not size. He was awesome. He has been talking to Bruce Jenner a lot lately. Arnold May soon be a woman so it doesn’t matter anyway.
He would win tf you talking about? If he was a bodybuilder in this era, he'd compete and train like how nowadays bodybuilders do. But then again I dont think he'll like the modern look, a pregnant humanoid man. Besides Arnie made Bodybuilding popular because of his outgoing, charisma and love for the sport. And to this day nobody has yet to top Arnie chest, even Ronnie admits Arnie had the best and most defined pecks.
+Kevin Spacey bullshit excuse. "I'm so busy training other people so I just have to overeat, never train and get fat" is the dumbest fucking cop-out ever heard. There are fantastic trainers who are in great shape.
I would not call it an evolution I'd call it a devolution. Arnold was in my opinion among the last of the greats. By his time bodybuilding had been taken to it's natural limit. Arnold was aesthetic, but still massive at 240-250lbs. That was the peak, the pinnacle of what the human body can achieve. From then on, and especially from the early 90s on, there was nowhere else to go but into the freak territory, sacrificing aesthetics in the name of ever more extreme bodies. To go with the racing analogy, Usain Bolt can run 100 metres in something like 9.6 seconds, and sure someone might come along do 9.599, but no one is going to run 100m in 5 seconds unless they're a cyborg. You reach a certain point where you have achieved all that that which is human can achieve, and to go past that is to stop being human. I would not consider that a gain.
Definitely changed..."evolved" is the wrong word. 70s and 80s bodybuilding was aesthetically pleasing, now they just look like mutated ninja turtles. Each to their own I guess
Evolution is change...evolution is not applied only to stuff that are getting better. Evolution is changes to adapt to the current (whatever it is) so you can survive or remove the unnecessary trades.
Sorry but no, evolving means changes for certain goals.....I don't see how its improvement for the human kind loosing its physical strength over the 1000's of years.
Lol exactly. F1 used to be way faster 20 years ago, and the cars were more powerful too. And it got toned down because of safety regulations. The analogy was really really stupid.
el _stormbringer Every human SHOULD be able to make the vacuum pose, m8. No as deep as some of the OG as you said, but everyone that is healthy enough to be called a BODYBUILDER should be able to at least hit it in some sort that it shows they have some control over their damn guts.
@el _stormbringer everyone can do that pose, the only time something would stop you doing it if you have been training correctly is if there was something wrong with your internal organs
+Nath Rob : This is what happens when you do HGH tons and steroids tons, the organs puff up. It is really gross. I cant imagine how dangerous it is. Chilling.
Bruh, he didn't said that it's wrong, he just said that it just evolved, it's more extreme today than ever before, an Arnold in his prime wouldn't have won that many trophies in this day of age because they pushed it to the next level. Not that it's a good thing though, it's like the guy said: "subjective".
i tottally agree with Arnold and disagree with the fat guy ... but also disagree with ya it's about opinion not about the look at this point because the interviewer asked what do you think not how do you look
The way you talk about hany "the smallest guy" is so disappointing. Do some research on him before you disrespect the man. Coached 7 time Olympia champ Phil heath 4x champ Jeremy buendia. And more.
@@TheShootermagee actually, he did not. He slipped in his bathroom and hit his head too hard. Yes, an autopsy showed his heart and liver being twice the normal size for his age, but it was not the direct cause of death.
@@juicypears5466 I would imagine that was a mix of being sardonic, sarcastic, and ironic ... Given how vascular many are, and the obvious circumference of many of them, with the combination of cardiac hypertrophy, and sky high blood pressure, it scares me to think a minor injury, could lead to a significant blood loss ... especially if they have reduced clotting ...
Evolution is all about natural selection. If bodybuilders go that way... pumping steroids to look ridiculous they will lose their fanbase. Less people will watch it and in the end less sponsorship money. Ask most people at the gym they dont want to be super huge anymore. Its offputting. They just want to be fit. But in the old days everyone wanted to look like arnie.
yeah, and why everybody uses that word in the first place with everything in life, this has evolved that has evolved, shut up already, its just an excuse for bad progress
Went wtf when the baldie coach said arnold back then wouldn't win a competition now. What the fuck. His body is still praised as top notch perfection among bodybuilders. why you think every young bodybuilder looks up to arnold and not to some monster who pops injections like there's no tomorrow, even though some may say arnold went a bit overboard as well.
@@histsap it's an evolution caused by drawing techniques and technology making it so anybody can be a good realism painter. No one will pay a lot for art anyone can paint.
@@angelgodplace so art isn't about art now? It's about money, art is money, you might've have summed up the issue with today's bodybuilding, it's just about how the next guy can make a huge sum from it, the meaning doesn't matter, thanks for accidently summarising that, because now we know its defo not evolution.
Mark Frangioni Back in the day, everyone was watching bodybuilding. It was basically as popular as the NFL or the UEFA Champion's League back then, that is why Arnold became so famous. Today, only muscle dysmorphic freaks follow open pro bodybuilding religiously.
For rich piana to say that means a lot. I’m sure he would’ve rather had Arnold’s body but because of the industry he’s in he was a direct product. RIP rich ❤️
"That physique probably wouldn't win a national show."
That right there is what's wrong with bodybuilding today.
I'd rather look like Arnold any day, that guy has lost the fukin plot, todays bodybuilders minds are warped
Guy talking about a Legend that way LOL, exactly the problem.
Look up Steve Reeves and Lee Labrador also, today’s bodybuilders is ridiculous!
I thought the beginning of the end was Jay Cutler. He's always look freakish to me--like can that man actually move his neck??!!
@@shawngillespie3532 Lee Labrador:) Is he the muscular canine version of Lee Labrada?
When Rich Piana says things have gotten out of control you know its completely off the deep end.
@PKD Orion hearing a synthol user say its about a pleasing looks make me laugh
Rich 'Synthol' Piana...lol You can tell he has his arms filled with synthol.
rich piana's mid-section was actually good.
@@Randybobandy024 Rich looks eccentric but i think hes definetly rocking the look
Looks more like plastic implants to me.
Arnold is bodybuilding and will always be the front man for bodybuilding.
Alberto Rodriguez no it's Joe weider
Flyers28 tell that to people of California
Flyers28 when he was governor of CA he lied and did a lot of shit and now he's not welcomed
Flyers28 yeah I know what are you trying to prove I'm just saying Joe weiders the father. people know him or not he's the bodybuilding father
Flyers28 yeah
“Arnolds body would not win today”
Yeah and thats the problem. Arnie walked the line perfectly of how much muscle his body could carry before starting to look absolutely ridiculous (and he looked best when he wasn't at his biggest). Most pro body builders these days are so far over that line.
Bigger isn't better.
The last guy, Hany Rambod, said things have evolved and he used an example that 30 years ago a racecar getting up to 200 mph on the straight part of the track was unheard of.... LoL 🤣 seriously? In Nascar, cars were hitting over 200 mph over 50 years ago. What a dork!
exactly, somebody tell that guy when people talk about: "things have evolved" it should be for the betterment of something and not for the worst of it...
then again, a world where there's the special Olympics and retards are called special and not handicapped or retarded what did i expect 🤷♂️
I agree that Arnold's upper body was very close to perfection, but I think his lower body could have been significantly bigger.
@@joaoalcantara6676 Disagreed, his lower body was perfect too. People are over developed today. Your legs are not supposed to be so large as to inhibit walking. His were perfectly proportioned.
How can you call turning from a Greek God to a Ninja Turtle, evolution?
Ryder Sonthestorm lmaooo
Ryder Sonthestorm that is the funniest shit I've heard in a while.
definitely one of the best analogies I have read.
Evolution doesn't necessarily mean improvement. Get a dictionary!
Evolution means change and it isn't directional
Arnold is completely right.
Luizfigobr I agree. It's about classic qualities. From ancient Greece and Rome, little has changed in the classic style of bodybuilding because it's about the classic beauty of symmetry and the development of the human form...
arnold forgot the tons of steroids that he got at his time he didn't take GH and other substances that are in use today for the only reason that at his time were not at disposal .non for this reason l like the exagerate size of nowaday's bodybuilders,me too find them awful , but arnold is the last one that should speak
YOUR answer is ridicolous and shows the few knowledge you have about this topic ,be realistic arnold as all the big guys of his time got great quantity of roids for this reason he would be better don't touch this topic .
He sure was and Arnold would beat the shit out of today's body people not even bodybuilders they are just body people that stick needles in every part of the body and eat &,shit all day and pump up
pediatrapaola Yeah but at least the dude didn't look fucked up.
“Do you like a redhead or do you like a brunette?” No dude, the comparison should be “do you want be a Greek god or do you want to to be a mix between predator and hellboy”
But redheads are monster freak of nature so it makes sense
@@JP-eb2ip 😂
I love red heads
Do you want to be the Greek God or the minotaur from the labyrinthe.
A mix between a gorilla and slaughterhouse cattle.
Or Hercules.
Arnold is 100% right. I remember seeing pumping iron and his earlier films like Conan the Barbarian and Commando. I wanted to look like him. I wanted that physique. I have NEVER thought like that about the modern bodybuilders.
Indeed, i am not a fan of body building, but i see pumping iron 2 the woman, and Rachel Mclisgh, Cory Everson were so sexy and modern female body builders, look like Gorilas in bikini, , you realize they are abusing drugs with just looking them
“It’s simple if it jiggles, it’s fat”
Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Where did he say that
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My dick: ....
Typical steriods user will say that
The bellies dont jiggle and isnt fat. Its a result of just pure mass
“evolved”, “changed”, “evolved”, “changed”..... anybody in their right SANE minds would say an Arnold-esque physique is more aesthetically pleasing than bubble guts.
I think it's absurd how some of these bodybuilders think that having an oversized gut with abs a good look it got so bad that they came up with a name for it is named palumboism most people think they are out of shape but really it's testosterone and other supplements they are taking for instance there is a guy named big Lenny he is one of the worst cases ove Columbo ism I've ever seen but I'm nobody to talk
BUT IF THE BUBBLE GUT LOOK IS STILL ACCEPTABLE IN TODAY'S COMPETITION THEN WHAT'S THE PROBLEM??
Yes
Cant u just fucking agree that he can have a fucking opinion?
I mean I believe the sport reached its peak when Ronnie Coleman was competing so yes it did evolve
I'd rather have a symmetrical godly physique than walking around looking like a pregnant incredible hulk.
*pregnant WITH incredible hulk
Hahaha
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Unrelated to your comment but I see your profile picture so….
YOU FUCKING HYPED FOR SAGA OF TANYA SEASON 2 FINALLY IM SO FUCKNG EXCITED LITERALLY MY FAVOURITE ANIME OF ALL TIME
Gotta agree with Arnold on this one. Today's Bodybuilding is about packing muscles on top of muscles on top of muscles. The common theme is ''Get Bigger''. Back in Arnold's day and beyond, it was about getting big muscles of course but it also included sculpting and shaping your body to a certain shape. There was control and finesse in the muscle growth.
And during their time they also had to show that they could USE those muscles. That they weren't just for looks.
Well the contest is called Mr Olympia i think these new guys have dyslexia otherwise they would prolly join a different contest
“You gotta have muscles on your muscles! You gotta have muscles on your eyeballs!!! 👁”
@@DeliriumBand950 next thing is pp
So, having big stomach's is evolving? Well, I should be the next Mr. Olympia then.
8 packs have evolved to kegs
Well, I mean they are trying to get a man pregnant😅 and all these other wierd trend🤔🙄😔
I agree , they are trying to become some kind strong man.....for a strong man competition its good to have stomach like that because it helps in lifting heavy things......but for bodybuilding definitely not.
The judges can't see imperfections in the muscle groups when they are all covered in fat. Sounds like an easy victory for Mr. Olympia.
Not if I can help it 😂
"its evolving, just backwards" - Pewds
who?
Did not expect to see a pewdiepie quote here ;)
@@naruinoemporium320 pewwwwwwwdieeeeeeepieeeeeeeeee
@@naruinoemporium320 bro what even is your account?
@@vergodagoat emporium of strictly naruino. it's in my name what did you expect
Now it has "evolved" into a competition among pharmaceutical companies.
Perfect
It was before too, lol Arnold has admitted the use of riods many times
Exactly,and the winner is Mr.Anabolic
The Boys?
@@HopeThisIsntSOPARela ?
RIP to Rich Piana. One of the few guys in the scene who was honest.
I agree with Arnold. Bring the V back in bodybuilding.
anbs1682 no... That shit too is nasty , I'm not saying have a guy ... But that V is disgusting
v looks sexy
caldarislayer HEAVY_TANKO what the fuck are you smoking? The V is the natural shape of the conditioned male physique.
@Lance Payne 🤦♂️
@@frankenbeans9346 I think you're obese
2:50 " he wouldn't win today"
Yeah Sherlock...that is the exact point he is making...LOL
😂😂😂😂😂👍🏾⭐️
and the guy who's saying it has a strong dad bod
@@apacheY2K that guy is a very popular bodybuilding coach/trainer within the industry who’s trained the top classic physiques competitors 😂
„Arnold wouldn’t win a national show.“ That perfectly describes the issue.
Yeah he says that like it’s a point for Arnold being wrong, when actually it encapsulates Arnold’s argument. Young men in 2021 want to look like Arnold or similar size Instagram guys, but not a single one wants to look like top 5 Olympia guys.
Whatever drug that chubby guy is Taking I WANT SOME!!!....
Arnold's condition was pure art😇. I would sell my soul for that body😅, that body would stand out from everyone else period👌
@@kayson7469 he wasnt taking anything......
@@r.i.pmaple8450 No, I was joking that the chubby guy must be on some hardcore drugs to say something like that about Arnold's condition😅
@@kayson7469 hahaha lmao i guess i got woooshed
With all due respect to Mr. Rambod, Arnold would dominate today in every event he competed in. Arnold wasn't/isn't the biggest, he was just perfect.
Is he out of his mind... The aesthetics in the 70s were absolutely amazing. Those guys looked like Greek Gods.
you talking about the bald fat guy in the last?
am pretty sure he mean the last guy. I don't see where else he would be looking at lmao. RIP this sport..... if the fucking judgments were all sent to jail because they took payment this sport will get fixed asap....
Yeah But you have to consider everyone "Back in the day" used steroids so yeah they looked like greek gods but you have to give some credit to the people now for getting to where they are without steroids
Arnold In an ABC Interview:
"I have no regrets about it," said Schwarzenegger, "because at that time, it was something new that came on the market, and we went to the doctor and did it under doctors' supervision. We were experimenting with it. It was a new thing. So you can't roll the clock back and say, 'Now I would change my mind on this.' "
luther trump u have to consider that the use of roids nowadays is even worse. Dorian Yates also said that the old bodybuilders were way more ripped, looked harder than todays stuffed bodybuilders who are big but look squishier compared to the old scold BB's
Graham Van Dyke just glad the ifbb realized not everyone wants to see that and finally made classic physic, which in my opinion will over take open body biulding
Arnold is right. Today's bodybuilders are freakish. Too extreme. It's 'muscular obesity.'
Freakshow!
Better steroids of course , but have you been keeping up they are stopping to drop like flies with their over grown organs.
What an expression, "muscular obesity".
@D here are some more
Muscle overattenuation
Flex overdrive
Gigagrowth
Steroid submergence
Brawn burst
Really is, like someone literally pumped em up with air lmao
100000% agree with the Terminator
Iron Shield I laughed too hard at this
800%
I'll go with him cuz I want to live
hhhhh
Didn't bask
Rich Piana has a way of summing up and respecting Olympian ideals to the max that somehow belies his pop mass monster image, that really surprised me. He’s more complex and deeper than I realised. The man had genuine integrity and respect for the sport. Never judge a book by its cover - memo to self. RIP
Go figure the dude who disagreed with Arnold is the trainer whos bringing these physiques to the shows.
Mark Shull he is shielding his business.
It's phill heaths trainer for the people that don't know
bro fuck arnold he is the reason steroids are mainstream
no, you are wrong, Arnold is the reason that people know what steroids can give u as a benefit and as an harm shit. He just told everyone the truth, he was the real deal and still is
never beleive the dude thats making money out of creating these guys
Rich Plano is exactly the type Arnold is talking about. And Rich is here defending what Arnold said?
Aaron Anderson I was thinking exactly that rich even admits he just wants to look like a mutant/freak years ago tho he actually had a damn good physique he's just fucked it
Yeah he's probably just got body dismorphia, it's a shame that lots of bodybuilders have it they put in so much work it's a shame they can't be proud of their accomplishment
aka bubble gut!!
People give Rich a ton of undue shit. He has owned up about all his steroids, synthol and HGH etc. He is building his own body the way he wants to. He always says that Arnold was the best.
Heaven Son somebody called me?
"Things evolve"
Yeah, and things also DEVOLVE as well. Not every change is a good one.
facts
he made no sense with the formula one comparison either.. those f1 cars back in the days where absolute monsters with their v12 engines, and incredible speed
If only people would apply your comment to progressivism.
@@CarboKill please don,t take my comment as such.. just that i dont take past inventions to be right doesn,t mean i dont love them..
i have no problem with change.. but let it come with reality and with a pace,
@@redsampler2017 Wasn't talking to you, I don't know why UA-cam informs everyone in the comment thread whenever there's a new reply.
The funny thing is when you watch bodybuilding shows in Korea and Japan and other countries. They still have that V shape. I feel like it's mostly in America where that changes happening
As an American, it's nearly always mostly in America where are culture is evolving, just backwards. Darwin would be profoundly angry.
I would choose Arnold's physique over any body builder of today
true
Can you even name 3 current body builders off the top of your head?
Broken Wave no because no one wants to know what their names are, no one even wants to look at them
Cedric is about the only guy in the open division I would want to look like.
Broken Wave Kai,Phil n Jeremy.
2:50 - “Arnold’s physique was amazing but wouldn’t win today”. Therein lies the problem. His physique was amazing. Bodybuilders today have become disgusting. Bigger and “newer” isn’t necessarily better.
From Greek God turns to Pokemon dynasty.
@@dxic962 now thats a good one😂
@@dxic962
Trainer: what? Greek god id evolving...
Tut tut tut tut tut tut tut tut
Pweeeeng🌟
Congratulations👋 your Greek god evvolved into Preggy Turtle!
They should create a separate category where no drugs are allowed.
@@thebestevertherewas there are natural body building competitions, though I doubt all of them are natural
What arnold is saying in between the lines is "the steroid use has gone too far" guys don't look good and are dying in their 50's.
Leto Atreides steroids has nothing to do with it. Steroids have and will always be core to bodybuilding.
@@s21411 what do you understand by 'gone too far'?
Since you failed to understand, it means there has been an encouragement of an overuse and abuse of steroids in body-building. He did not imply steroids should be banned.
Personally, I do not approve of using any form of steroids in an attempt to form one's body into a perceived desirable aesthetic of any sort. I would only advocate natural means. But hey, it's body building right?
guys look 45 in their 20s
Leto Atreides who have died with 100 percent links to steriods? Many have from diuretics.
Many guys use other drugs such as coke and have died from that.
Give me the long list of body builders who have died! There are 1000 upon 1000 who use and abuse steriods and yet you can’t give a list.
It’s not the steroids it’s the insulin and hgh. Dorian Yates spoke about this on the joe rogan podcast
You can't argue with a guy who had the most perfectly developed body ever! 💪
Yes, bodybuilding has evolved, into fucking overbaked potatoes.
robslifting4life baked potatoes are packed full of carbs!
More like twice baked potatoes!
robslifting4life no bottles
Bruh. You made me laugh at 9 am. Fucking impressive
Ain't that the truth. Bodybuilding back then was all about being in the best shape of your life and being healthy and fit. Even though at times back then they did take steroids but not as crazy as today's bodybuilders.
The only guy who disagreed with Arnold was the one with his gut sticking out.😂
And his argument was as sound as his physique.
@@colecooper5836 lol😂
😂😂😂
Ya that dude looked terrible
He's a trainer though, he's not a bodybuilder himself, but the guys he trains are all good, maybe only Jay cutler gets a bubblegut. . . These days
Arnold is in his mid 70's and still looks great. Let's see if these EVOLVED ones can even reach that age with their MODERN way of body building.
Well, you know, its like, you know
you know
I agree with you. But Arnolds way wasn’t exactly healthy either. He’s had open heart surgery a couple of times. And he doesn’t really look all that good today either. A lot of people spread these pictures with Cahlings body photoshopped to Arnold’s head and many believe that they’re real pics.
@@DeathWithinTenSteps Arnold still looks good tho to be 74. He's still decently built for his age too. Bodybuilding now has a lot of people who will inject their muscles to make them appear bigger because it's went from looking good, to having the biggest muscles
Most of the "evolved" dont make it to their 50's......
@@jpsholland 50s? Mate they're dropping dead in their 30s and 20s now
I've never been into bodybuilding, and have certainly never tried it myself. But When I look at guys from Arnold's era, I think they look amazing and well-proportioned. When I look at the guys nowadays they don't even look human. One of them inspires me and makes me think how beautiful a human body can look, and the other makes me wonder at how grotesque they can look. It is a subjective sport, but I'm pretty sure they are still supposed to look human.
Not as subjective as people think, simmetry, fat, definition, proportion, size all of them objective.
Funny that the first guy to rip on arnold has a belly that pushes past his chest.
march11stoneytony We call it " coda di paglia" wich means "flammable tail" lol
march11stoneytony he's a coach that trains Phil heath and jeremy beundia he knows way way more than you think
You mean Calum? Arnold himself already congratulated him for his physique. I don't agree that he looks like those pregnant dudes. He has a V shaped body, if you check out when he's on season.
he was talking about the first guy to rip on arnold. since calum did not rip on arnold, i think he is not the one march11stoneytony was referring to
march11stoneytony That's not true. His body is probably the most close to Arnold in his prime
Even 40 years after, i still want to look like Arnold than other Body builder today.
Same, he looked like a greek god
He's still and always will be the example
Hats off to that
mittao86 what about the Coleman gut ? Lol
Not just Arnold, but all the others from that great era, Sergio, Franco, Serge Nubret, Lou Ferrigno, Robbie Robinson, Frank Zane. They were all amazing!
That “evolved” guy said nothing in a whole minute
massive contradictions in every other pair of statements he stated.
He said you know, like, things have changed, like, you know.
He wanted to disagree but he was disagreeing with Arnold about bodybuilding so he couldn't get it out lol.
It sounds like that if you’re not trying to listen.
The people he coaches tend to have a ‘bubble gut’ so he has to try and believe his own bullshit so he doesn’t alienate his clients
Look at Rich Piana fully agreeing, dude was much smarter than people give him credit for. RIP Rich
steroids or not rich has always been honest with himself and his community. he always meant well. RIP big man.
Whats this last guy talking about? F1 cars where faster in the 90's. They had to slow them down cuz there where to meany deaths. They should do the same for body building so people stop dying from there harts exploding, or end up like Ronnie in a wheelchair you don't see Arnold walking with a walker.
Enzo Prosciutto THIS. This comment should have way more likes.
B M thank you sir
It's extreme sports ? Get it ? You can't achieve health and monstrous size enough to win Olympia altogether
They had to have restrictions on downforce and stuff later on as well so racing would be more entertaining. F1 cars today would be so much faster if there were no restrictions, but they can’t have that because there would be no entertainment and overtakes. Same with bodybuilding. You have to slow down sometimes to make things fun to watch, or in this case aesthetic and nice to look at.
Quattro Bitch! I’m pretty sure Brawn and his mates are doing something to make less dirty air
old school bodybuilders had a physique that if you were to etch that as a statue now, 300 years down the line people would still look at it and admire it like how we admire the statues of Greek gods ....
if you were to a etch a statue with current body builders physique, people after 300 years will wonder what kind of monstrous species that was that would have roamed earth.... most modern bodybuilders look like a pregnant ninja turtles.
Haha 😂 so true
Very well put👌
MENS PHYSIQUE
😂
@Axel Blaze damn bruv so original
That last guy really thought a clean, sculpted physique to a bubble gut is considered “evolution.”
@Souf yeah, but I see his point. It hasn’t as much evolved more so than have strayed from the original point of the sport. Body building even in its beginning was intended to show the peak human condition while still being artistic with symmetry and grace in their form
I’m not the only one who dislikes it. Besides, look at them side by side. A lot of people prefer a cleaner sculpted body.
@Souf Forced evolution to regular flow of evolution. Yeah, it DEvolved.
@@curtisjohnson2433 Uh no.... If I take a red car and paint it blue, then after a few months paint it red again, I haven’t “DEpainted” the car. Same concept in biology: “devolving” by definition, does not exist.
@@JanSobieskiIII are you fuqqing stupid? Did you just ignore the analogy and try to make a random point?? Seriously?? Dumb ass.
It went from a Superman look to the Incredible Hulk. I think the reason is that it is easier for a judge to put 2 contestants next to each and see who is bigger than to evaluate symetri, beauty and posing which requires more talent, knowledge and skill from the judge. Size is an easy metric.
This is a great analogy. Little boys want to grow up and look like Superman, not the Hulk. Even Bruce Banner doesn’t want to look like the Hulk.
even hulk looks better than some of the bodybuilders today
I friggin' hate bubble gut. I can't understand how it's so accepted these days.
It’s because the rap song “Bubble Butt” was so popular!! 😜🤘🏻🤣😂
@@hdentaldude fuck hahaha
It’s Roids
@@GNXXRAY wrong it's gh
@@tebmc3466
I’m perfectly aware of the options to make this happen as I am a bodybuilder myself.
2:41 this guy talks BS for 3 minutes. Bodybuilding has not evolved, it has devolved. Arnold put it in the plainest and most honest terms: would you like to have a body like Steve Reeves? Hell yes, the man was a Greek statue. Would I like to look like one of today's shaved apes? No. Not in the least.
Never take physique advice from a fat dude. I can't believe they included him in the video.
exactly. sure, people like and want to look 'big', but they also want to look shredded and look/feel healthy, not look not-natural on stage. If these Mr Olympia winners of today are winners in that guy's eyes and his answer is that bodybuilding has evolved, then what has it evolved into? A winning sport? Or one where it's obvious to the casual and hardcore eyes that those guys don't look good on stage. They're the same type of massbuilders who don't live to see 50 because how 'bodybuilding has evolved' has also killed them. I'm sure that guy didn't think of that logic and it's painfully true. Arnold had one of the best bodies EVER, and he looked healthy and he didn't look like a balloon. He took the sport to heights that bodybuilders before him could've never imagined, and guys like that guy clearly needs to get out of the business because that mindset is ruining the sport and the athletes involved.
Also notice he's the only one who didn't 100% agree with Arnold like the rest of them and make the absurd claim that the sport has 'evolved'.
Zyzz also died from apparent drug use.Theres certain limits a body can handle before it screws up your appearance and your health. To the extent of these different divisions, sure, boydbuilding has evolved, but not what that guy is refering to by 'evolved'.
Very true. He gave a bad example of hard work in branch warren. Branch works very sloppy not hard and he doesn’t look good at all
Back then: Greek Gods that fought Titans
Now: The Titans.
@@onepunch5810 before :eren yeager titan
Now: rod rise / zeke yeager titan
@@onepunch5810 Its from the Greek mythology when gods fought titans it doesn't have anything to do with aot
@@احمدباسمعاتي holy shit i hate anime
Bro Even the Titans look better that today’s bodybuilders. I should know I’m Greek
@@onepunch5810 no
150% agree with him, Shawn ray was a perfect example of what people wanted to look like
Shawn Ray looks like crap these days
@@rampageclover9788 he's 58 now
@@billybobs1705 how's that an excuse?
@@rampageclover9788 are you a dumb ass?
When I watch the film "Pumping Iron" I get pumped and excited to look and be like Arnold and his buds. Body builders now are like watching a freak show.
Totally agree
I really don't agree with that guy. Bubble guts are just gross and it's not a matter or preference. No one wants a bubble gut.
There is a reason Arnolds workouts are still the most used and most searched on the web still to this day.
Its because he used a very useful type of training called volume training which is great for throwing on mass. Stop speaking like u know what ur talking about
NO!
@@ZainAhmed-ns2di shhhhhhh
im 57 still use them.
@Лука Перковић it's a hard one for me. Menzer has less traps which is kinda gay but it also gives him a super hero look. Arnold has more traps which is super straight and makes him look like a hulk though. Plus I'm sure Arnold could fix it with the right poses. Also menzer has better abs. But Arnold's chest is unparalleled.
Bald dude beat around the bush so much that bodybuilding evolved twice while he was talking.
😂
T HZX dead lmao 😂
T HZX lmfao
LMFAO
T HZX lmao
I'm a lifelong bodybuilder since 1979 I love Frank Zane and Rachel McLeish they are such an inspiration!!!Nobody's stomach should be hanging out on stage.Remember Frank Zane's "Vaccuum Pose"?That is art.
Shoutout to Rich for always keeping it real no matter what. R.I.P. to the big guy.
A lot of respect for Rich Piana because even though he wasn’t after the classic physique he had a lot of respect for that type of body building and wanted to bring that back.
Yeah just keeping it 2 different competitions the last guy was right it's a different goal
For all the faults Rich had, he at least didn't have a bubble gut..
Idiot. You are completely out of touch. Rich had the exact type of physique Arnold was criticising.
@@toby099 No, buddy, Rich was not proportional compared to Arnolds physique, but Rich didn't have a gut sticking out.
Bring it back? He is exactly what physique this video about and whats wrong with it.
He was all talk.
Evolved from the beauty of Arnold to hippos standing on their hind legs?... evolved is not an accurate word for this... it has DEVOLVED!! ...... DEVOLVED!!
Last guy was a Moron in denial
Jim Jones yeah but if you put arnie next to Chris Hemsworth in Thor or something, 90% of people would say they prefer that, so where does that land us?
How do women feel about these modern guys losing all their ass? I mean they're trying to make it look like a chicken nugget. Arnold is right, also he's pissed that his whole body looks like a chicken nugget next to them.
Hippos standing on their hind legs..... Hahahahahahaha
I never heard such an accurate comparison as Hippos on their hind legs for this. Perhaps with vascularity popping. Lol so good!
With respect to the last guy, race car driving isn't an aesthetic sport, this is. And it will be hurt by getting away firm aesthetics and moving toward pure extreme muscle.
Respect for Rich who regardless of his practice actually states the truth Body Building is about Symmetry not just size..thats what makes champion
neosrt10 rip me then, my abbs looks like brickwork, the ones on the left start halfway down the ones on the right
RandomTryhard 27 Right? this Derpy Fish kid is clueless ..Rich is an extreme body builder who himself says symmetry and aesthetically pleasing is a champion body build @Derpy Fish learn to read instead of saying random bs
It's apparent Derpy Fish was merely pointing out how screwed he is then since his own body is not very symmetrical. @Derpy Fish It's all in the genetics man, some people just don't have symmetrical abs due to genetics and no amount of training will fix that. We all have things we can't change about us, such is life. :D
Yet he still is completely out of proportion xD
I don't think it's symmetry the reason your average beginner would aspire to have Rich Piana's body. His body is not aesthetic, it's a bloated mess.
Evolved!!? Tool. He trains them and gets paid thats why hes so defensive lol
100%. “Arnold would barely maybe win a national show”. Why? Cuz he doesn’t pay you 10k a month like Phil 😂
@@Chazb369 😂😂😂😂😂👌
Yeah isn't that dude dead? Evolution to 6 feet under meat head.
@@Chazb369 he is right tho
@@amitz9820 that Arnold would barely win a national show? Or that the sport is evolved? He’s just a coach who makes money off his personal brand and training the top pros now so he doesn’t want people trashing them because they’re essentially trashing his coaching and his clients.
The 80s and 90s had the general public interested in bodybuilding because they were asthetically pleasing to the eye. Guys like Mike Mentzer and Arnold Schwarzenegger had main stream interest. I couldn't name more than a couple bodybuilders now.
That was the 60's, 70's and the early to mid 80's.
Milocinia: And "Lou Ferigno" from back then (The Incredible Hulk) - he was a very huge name. But although many guys are still bodybuilding these days I cannot name even one. But as long as they're having fun though, that's all good.
Chris Bumstead is the closest we will get in this generation of bodybuilding
Cbum is still keeping the classic physique alive
I know cbum and thats about it
it depends on how you view bodybuilding, if its an Art, then its all about symmetry
Arnold would still win. If he walked on stage with today's bodybuilders it would only highlight how absurd they look.
wowforreeel exactly
Well you're obviously an idiot
IKR being Mr Olympia was about having the body of a stone statue and the body of a god, now it's just about how big and toned you can get.
wowforreeel you may be right.. he would need a bit of tweaking though.
I feel like health needs to be more emphasised in todays society. We don't want to see people going down the wrong path and be later treated as a normality which is absurd.
He's so right, I'm not a body-builder and not interested in it, but if you look at Arnold's body in Pumping Iron, winning that title, it looked so aesthethic and natural. Just beautiful. These guys today look like super-sized babies, freaks of nature.
there was nothing natural about Arnold either. the difference is volume of drugs taken.
It was the volume, but you have to remember that guys in the 70's and 80's weren't using insulin and HGH. Those two are the main drugs that have caused those bloated bullies and unnatural proportions we see now. They also happen to be two of the most dangerous drugs for bodybuilders as well
"natural"
lmao dumbest comment
I think what he means is the drug dosages were much lower to the point where it did not seem so abnormal to use steroids. Today they add many other compounds to their routine.
Yeah, I totally got that but his choice of words is just stupid.
Body building= Arnold, period.
599M Views no it's Joe weider
and his protein supplements
David Oh you mean his Dbol and deca durabolin?
Rafaelpotosino1 we're not talking about what people take, either way you need to work hard to get to where he was, no one had genetics like Arnold he is a legend
Barbra lol I'm not criticizing him I take that stuff myself just like to have a laugh at the people thinking supplements do anything. Gear + hard work and diet = legends
So by Rambod's explanation, if I work as hard as Branch Warren but still look like I do now, which could best be described as."pretty jacked and lean, but nowhere close to a pro," I should be in contention for the Olympia because I worked really hard.
That poor guy at the end. Completely in denial
Cocaine
@@jonjino As you said it is about personal perference and perspective- and Arnold's preference is that body building is about making glorious bodies (looking good) rather than extreme huge muscles (and stomachs). Thats his subjectivity
@@jonjino So risking your life with Insulin and diuretics is ok for the sport you dumbass? This shit not only causes bubble gut, it kills you, but you think, hey, it's personal preference? No, they should straight up ban it from bodybuilding, as the monstrosity oversized bubble guts that are the norm today are only because of these dangerous drugs, as anabolics and HGH don't have the horrible health risks or cause sudden death and allow bodybuilders to retain their small waists.
It should be set in stone that anyone competing with the horrendous looking bubble gut, should be instantly disqualified, and this will not only weed out those taking these dangerous drugs to look that horrible, but will also save lives and hopefully deter others.
Lately Arnold has become weak and started joining in on the leftist pussy attitude, but i will always commend him for making this stance against this absolutely stupid practice of risking your life to win the weirdest looking person in the world competition
#Thingsevolve
@Aaron Mays he's a coach
70s and 80s = steroids, 2000s = steroids+HGH+insulin+synthol.
lol
Nilesh Darunde I think that's what the guy in the end meant by evolved
Nilesh Darunde can be banana?
Nilesh Darunde whatever it takes
Nilesh Darunde insulin? I'm not trying to say that's incorrect but how does insulin help bodybuilders?
"Would Arnold win one of todays shows? No."
And that's the problem.
Ofc he wouldn't, he's an old man that's in better shape than most joe schmoes in bodybuilding today.
You know what..if he were in his prime up against this new breed. I believe he most defiantly would.
Um that is a stupid comment Arnold would win easy, he was a gorgeous man, I’m not gay, his build was a Greek god status. He is old now do not try To compare him to young men. Fucktard
Benjamin Hawkhurst your misunderstanding what he put, a guy like Arnold wouldn’t win today because today it’s all about drugs and massive size and a freak show. That is the problem with the sport.
Brfić McBrfy um Arnold was a steroid massive freak also. But his build was way superiority. Many guys were bigger than him back then also. He had the better build. He stood on stage next to Lou ferigno, he was tiny compared to Lou. His build was always why he won not size. He was awesome. He has been talking to Bruce Jenner a lot lately. Arnold May soon be a woman so it doesn’t matter anyway.
Golden era physiques were by far the best in symmetry and aesthetics.. My opinion 😉
You in the rar?
“Arnolds body would not win today”
Show me anyone past or present with a better chest than prime Arnold, I’ll wait....
He wouldn't win, not in Open. But that's also why they started Classic Physique.
Bet you are still waiting!
He would win tf you talking about? If he was a bodybuilder in this era, he'd compete and train like how nowadays bodybuilders do. But then again I dont think he'll like the modern look, a pregnant humanoid man. Besides Arnie made Bodybuilding popular because of his outgoing, charisma and love for the sport. And to this day nobody has yet to top Arnie chest, even Ronnie admits Arnie had the best and most defined pecks.
@Bitterman they do got chests but not as good as Arnie. Even those guys you've mentioned especially ronnie said Arnie chests is the best.
@Bitterman blind
The guy with 48% body fat is the one that disagrees 🤦🏿♂️
That 48% bodyfat guy is the one that made jay cutler and phil heath mr.olympia
Yasir Ali yeah, but Arnold was Mr Olympia
@@abhishekdas515 So he trained pregnant Phil? The rabbit hole continues to get deeper..
I understood that refrence
abhishek das that explains the ninja turtle builds perfectly.
I love how the only one who disagrees with Arnold is the short, fat guy
Zain Azrai ikr?
"the fat and short guy" is hany rambod and he is also a personal trainer of phil heat and jeremy buendia, best trainer in the world.
So why is he a fat guy?
Trainers rarely have time for themselves.
+Kevin Spacey bullshit excuse. "I'm so busy training other people so I just have to overeat, never train and get fat" is the dumbest fucking cop-out ever heard. There are fantastic trainers who are in great shape.
I would not call it an evolution I'd call it a devolution. Arnold was in my opinion among the last of the greats. By his time bodybuilding had been taken to it's natural limit. Arnold was aesthetic, but still massive at 240-250lbs. That was the peak, the pinnacle of what the human body can achieve. From then on, and especially from the early 90s on, there was nowhere else to go but into the freak territory, sacrificing aesthetics in the name of ever more extreme bodies.
To go with the racing analogy, Usain Bolt can run 100 metres in something like 9.6 seconds, and sure someone might come along do 9.599, but no one is going to run 100m in 5 seconds unless they're a cyborg. You reach a certain point where you have achieved all that that which is human can achieve, and to go past that is to stop being human. I would not consider that a gain.
@James K yes he did...but not on the level it was taken from about 1990 on.
Lol the guy at the end. Oh its evolved! BS. They had it right in the 70's and 80's
Definitely changed..."evolved" is the wrong word. 70s and 80s bodybuilding was aesthetically pleasing, now they just look like mutated ninja turtles. Each to their own I guess
ARTicNipple
Evolution is change...evolution is not applied only to stuff that are getting better. Evolution is changes to adapt to the current (whatever it is) so you can survive or remove the unnecessary trades.
edin kolasinac Evolving implies improvement
Sorry but no, evolving means changes for certain goals.....I don't see how its improvement for the human kind loosing its physical strength over the 1000's of years.
Last guy was wrong about racing cars.
Lol exactly. F1 used to be way faster 20 years ago, and the cars were more powerful too. And it got toned down because of safety regulations. The analogy was really really stupid.
Yea that was funny considering the current F1 cars are some of the least liked models in F1 history...
HVGUY yeah and it's now boring af
Wait until 2017 biiiiitch
No you stupid fuck, next year they will break most 2004 records.
just make vacuum a mandatory pose
This, this so much. Visceral fat is a thing
el _stormbringer
Every human SHOULD be able to make the vacuum pose, m8. No as deep as some of the OG as you said, but everyone that is healthy enough to be called a BODYBUILDER should be able to at least hit it in some sort that it shows they have some control over their damn guts.
@el _stormbringer everyone can do that pose, the only time something would stop you doing it if you have been training correctly is if there was something wrong with your internal organs
absolutely, Vacuum and fine waist or else GTFO. That would fix so much! very smart!
+Nath Rob : This is what happens when you do HGH tons and steroids tons, the organs puff up. It is really gross. I cant imagine how dangerous it is. Chilling.
It's not about the quantity, it's about quality
It's not about the mass, it's about the symmetries and balance
Arnold's physique would win he poses and looks better then all of em
I totally agree with you.
Im with you but not if ppl like the last guy to speak was judging.
Absolutely
Arnold moved so effortlessly... Just seemed to glide. Looked great in jeans and t-shirt. The guys today can't even wipe their asses...
I like how the smallest guy is the one that says Arnold is wrong😂
and fattest looking one
Bruh, he didn't said that it's wrong, he just said that it just evolved, it's more extreme today than ever before, an Arnold in his prime wouldn't have won that many trophies in this day of age because they pushed it to the next level.
Not that it's a good thing though, it's like the guy said: "subjective".
@@monadoboiii thats him saying its okay to be weaker now, they don’t look like strong men anymore
i tottally agree with Arnold and disagree with the fat guy ... but also disagree with ya it's about opinion not about the look at this point
because the interviewer asked what do you think not how do you look
The way you talk about hany "the smallest guy" is so disappointing. Do some research on him before you disrespect the man. Coached 7 time Olympia champ Phil heath 4x champ Jeremy buendia. And more.
"They told me i could be anything, so i became a baloon animal"
Arnold's comments on modern bodybuilding were 100% correct. His era was great, present time is disgusting.
All these men look so unhealthy, Arnold looked and still does look a picture of health
Even at his age? Yes!
Eh some of them looked healthy
The first two looked super healthy, fourth guy wasn't a body builder. It's the third guy who looks unhealthy.
@@bunionl382 well he died of a heart attack so...
@@TheShootermagee actually, he did not. He slipped in his bathroom and hit his head too hard. Yes, an autopsy showed his heart and liver being twice the normal size for his age, but it was not the direct cause of death.
This video ends at 2:40 with Rich
Agreed..
🤣🤣lmao
I also agree 100 percent. Rip Rich
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Rip
beauty itself is based on symmetry. the more symmetric you are the better you look.
The smallest fatest guy doesent agree with him. He must be a judge
One of the best coaches in the world actually
That guy is a trainer of a 7 time mr olympia and 2x 4 times mr olympias, so stfu
@@coenh8735 No wonder why bodyshape of bodybuilding went to shit then. "stfu", No, more like damnit that dude has ruined the sport.
@@Killer99215 so we finally found the culprit then?
@@coenh8735 Yeah I bet he did! That fucker should change his name to Master Splinter in that case. Disgusting to what this sport has become.
I'd much rather be small with a figure like a classic era bodybuilder than be big like a bodybuilder today
Exactly.
It looks ugly nowadays
@@juicypears5466 wdym? I love that nice arms and legs and that juicy 8 pack. 🥵 oh and them vains 🤤
@@UA-camCommenter1st bro?
@@juicypears5466
I would imagine that was a mix of being sardonic, sarcastic, and ironic ...
Given how vascular many are, and the obvious circumference of many of them, with the combination of cardiac hypertrophy, and sky high blood pressure, it scares me to think a minor injury, could lead to a significant blood loss ... especially if they have reduced clotting ...
The last guy seems to just think "things evolve" lol! He misses the whole point that evolution isn't always in the right direction.
Leif Grahamsson
huh?😯
Devoluion
Evolution is all about natural selection. If bodybuilders go that way... pumping steroids to look ridiculous they will lose their fanbase. Less people will watch it and in the end less sponsorship money. Ask most people at the gym they dont want to be super huge anymore. Its offputting. They just want to be fit. But in the old days everyone wanted to look like arnie.
Leif Grahamsson he used word evolution, he dont read books, evolution is natural and mutation is with steroids overdoze
Or radio active substances like teen mutants ninja turtles
Calumn is modern day Arnold. Even with the injuries he's sustained in the recent years the guy still worked through it and looks great.
Rich Piana: "Now it's just about monster-size.."
Yep, monster Piana, you're totally right..
Good fucking morning, god dammit!
Ruben Dekker haha right im sitting their thinking...hmmm. your def fitting the bill for the new body type that you disagree with. wth
Bigger by the day...
He means in competition. He knew he had a mental illness to keep pumping iron and chemicals.
Fix: Just make vacuum a mandatory pose, thank you.
Sounds like a joke, but making that a mandatory pose and forcing the judges to have it as heavy percentage of the total points would be HYOOOGE.
Boom. Mic drop.
1000% agree with that
Bodybuilding patch notes: Vacuum is now 25% of total
2:15 Rich Piana using the phrase “you know” 6 times in 15 seconds is you know kinda a lot
7 times!
Im more amazed on how the person interviewing nods his head countless times
You gotta confuse the body
Vegito // right babe ?
You know it
Didn't realise the interviewer was so jacked up until the last Guy 😂😂.
It is called the golden age of bodybuilding for a reason
I think the last guy means *de-evolved*
yeah, and why everybody uses that word in the first place with everything in life, this has evolved that has evolved, shut up already, its just an excuse for bad progress
DEVO
Devolved*
We always heard the term "have you lost your mind?"
Arnold says "have you lost your body?"... and it fits to new guys.
The bald guy at the end is the problem with bodybuilding.
Jack Silm hahaha you just killed me
@Jack Silm i agree he is an idiot
Freaking Phil Heaths trainer. Bodybuilding is like politics. If you aren't in the special circle you wont win Mr. Olympia
Went wtf when the baldie coach said arnold back then wouldn't win a competition now. What the fuck. His body is still praised as top notch perfection among bodybuilders. why you think every young bodybuilder looks up to arnold and not to some monster who pops injections like there's no tomorrow, even though some may say arnold went a bit overboard as well.
TDB Undie I agree with you completely. However, Arnold would look small compared to today's bodybuilders.
I agree with Arnold. Size doesn’t mean it’s aesthetically pleasing. Symmetry and overall composition has to be considered.
The term evolved is being misused, devolved is the proper term.
Are we not men?
We are DEVO
Are we not men?
D. E. V. O.
you are wrong. Evolution isn't always positive. Devolution means going back.
@@angelgodplace yeah, but what is exactly forward?
Looking / feeling good and dying with 56?
@@histsap it's an evolution caused by drawing techniques and technology making it so anybody can be a good realism painter.
No one will pay a lot for art anyone can paint.
@@angelgodplace so art isn't about art now? It's about money, art is money, you might've have summed up the issue with today's bodybuilding, it's just about how the next guy can make a huge sum from it, the meaning doesn't matter, thanks for accidently summarising that, because now we know its defo not evolution.
And after all this "evolution" who's body does everyone still talk about when it comes to bodybuilding?
Isaiah Parham Perfect (y)
Isaiah Parham vom Oahni
Big Lenny.
Mark Frangioni Back in the day, everyone was watching bodybuilding. It was basically as popular as the NFL or the UEFA Champion's League back then, that is why Arnold became so famous. Today, only muscle dysmorphic freaks follow open pro bodybuilding religiously.
Bruce Lee's.
For rich piana to say that means a lot. I’m sure he would’ve rather had Arnold’s body but because of the industry he’s in he was a direct product. RIP rich ❤️
They both on Roids, they just worked better in Arnolds health
@@OgglyGoogly yea I know. Rich probably took every drug put there too. He even tried synthol. He did everything so none of us have to LOL
This music is on the tony hawk 64 skate track, awesome throw back. So much nostalgia.