Make a Transmission Cutaway FORD Model A pt 1 DISASSEMBLY 733 tubalcain

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  • @ssboot5663
    @ssboot5663 3 роки тому +22

    Brings back memories of my childhood where I took one(transmission from model A) apart in the late 60s or 70s. My dad had it mounted on legs with a large probably 16 or 20 inch pulley and motor with a step pulley on it made to drive on the clutch end, and a pedal grindstone on the driveshaft end of the transmission. The setup was used for a speed reducer to sharpen mower sickles and butcher knives without having to pedal the stone by foot or hand.!
    I still remember that on drive clutch end he had the pulley centered with nails driven into the splines/gap/ to center the pulley hole/shaft/ and had the gap poured full with babbit or lead, not exactly sure of the filler he used but suspect it was babbit from rod bearings/caps.
    Low gear was a good sharpening speed for the grindstone. High would make it run much faster. As a young kid I took it and many other things apart to see how it worked. I was young but I learned all about gear ratio and leverage from that old setup.Also learned that that kind of grease was hard to wash out of clothing(:
    Nice Job on the videos!

    • @andyZ3500s
      @andyZ3500s 3 роки тому

      Great story, you must mean your mom nicly told you that the grease was hard to wash out.

    • @paulhunt598
      @paulhunt598 3 роки тому +1

      Good story. Good memories.

  • @RichieCat4223
    @RichieCat4223 3 роки тому +25

    Mr. Pete, yes the trans was a dark green as was the engine.
    I would paint the inside of the trans case white to contrast the gears. Just my 2 cents on that.

  • @Mike-zu5xj
    @Mike-zu5xj 3 роки тому +7

    Mr. Pete, repetition never hurt anyone when it comes to learning.

  • @G1951-w1y
    @G1951-w1y 3 роки тому +2

    The insides of that case had not seen daylight for almost 100 years. Thank You for enlightening us.

  • @ianpendlebury3704
    @ianpendlebury3704 3 роки тому +9

    Very interesting: I stayed to the end for my extra credit too........

  • @derekcollins1972
    @derekcollins1972 3 роки тому +6

    That is exactly the kind of videos that I look for. I'm happy that those transmissions found you. Your truely an inspiration and make me want to go play in my shop. Thank you Mr.Pete.

  • @t.d.mich.7064
    @t.d.mich.7064 3 роки тому +1

    It's really amazing to me that Ol' Henry and his overworked employees were able to make such a wonderfully simple, yet complicated and precision assembly, at a very high volume at such an early point in the industrial age. People don't realize the complications involved here. It is also amazing that after 90 or so years, you could put that transmission back into service with very little effort or expense! Good stuff!

  • @AmateurRedneckWorkshop
    @AmateurRedneckWorkshop 3 роки тому +1

    Very interesting so far. I have never seen a Model A transmission. I stayed for the extra credit because I figure with enough extra credit I can probably pass the course eventually.

  • @Radiotexas
    @Radiotexas 3 роки тому

    Okay, that was fascinating! Two things: (1) My machinist grandfather had one of these connected to a band saw for speed reduction. Most likely it was a wood cutting saw and he used the transmission to slow it down for metal cutting. (2) This part is a testament to the entire craft of machine shop work. Every part was made on the shop floor. NO CNC. NO COMPUTERS. All made by Ford machinists who most likely learned how to do it in the Henry Ford Trade School in Dearborn. Mr. Pete has showed some of the Ford text books used by the apprentices in their education. Can you even imagine a factory set up today to produce these? They made thousands and thousands of them. Can hardly wait to see the next parts!

    • @mrpete222
      @mrpete222  3 роки тому

      I originally bought these transmissions, thinking I would use them on one of my bandsaws. But they are physically a bit too large.

  • @josephpetito1351
    @josephpetito1351 3 роки тому

    Awesome Sir! I did that with a Triumph Spitfire transmissions from about 1968-- used a large hole saw to make several view points.
    This is a great way to teach power transmission--plus, kids love playing with it and seeing how the ratios work!

  • @clarkmarkey1498
    @clarkmarkey1498 3 роки тому

    That trans stand is very slick. I will use that idea for future trans projects. Green is the right color. The rear shaft is the main shaft as the forward shaft is the input shaft.

  • @ron827
    @ron827 3 роки тому

    As a kid on the farm, we had a wooden one hole corn sheller driven by a small engine through a Model A transmission using low gear. We used it to husk black walnuts in the fall. It was always fun to put the transmission in reverse and watch the machine put the husks back on the walnuts.

  • @GaryT1952
    @GaryT1952 3 роки тому

    Fascinating Mr. Pete...transmissions are a wonder

  • @AstraWerke
    @AstraWerke 3 роки тому

    You could make a fortune exporting these things - even unrestored, a transmission like that would be several hundred Euros in Germany - and this one looks to be in pristine condition!
    Amazing how simple it is to take apart with nothing but a socket and a punch.
    I realise many say to paint the inside white for better visibility, but I've always liked cast housings to be red on the inside - for no particular reason.

  • @mole2410
    @mole2410 3 роки тому +3

    Some of the old Lodge and Shipley lathes had a transmission with the shifter bent downward for the operator to change speeds as I recall.

  • @ohmbug10
    @ohmbug10 3 роки тому

    Extra credit was awesome Mr. Pete. In HS I attended far more shop classes than my schedule showed due to inattentive teachers of "unimportant" classes...so yeah, shop class extra credit is cool.

  • @RookieLock
    @RookieLock 3 роки тому +2

    I've said it before, and I'll say it again.. I love cutaways ! Looking forward to part 2

  • @danedewaard8215
    @danedewaard8215 3 роки тому

    THIS IS A FANTASTIC SERIES!!!!! LOVE, LOVE, LOVE IT!!!!!!!

  • @ExStaticBass
    @ExStaticBass 3 роки тому

    Everyone I've ever known to repair one of those old model A transmissions has replaced the rivets with sheer pins. The hollow rolled steel pins with the split down the side. Their plenty strong enough and don't easily work their way out. Especially with some lock-tite to help hold them.

  • @CraigLYoung
    @CraigLYoung 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for sharing! You know we had a lot of cut aways in the Army. Thankfully for knot heads like me who can't understand things unless I see them working.

  • @joeclarke9782
    @joeclarke9782 3 роки тому

    Good deal Mr Pete. And a good deal for us to see you dissect it.

  • @jeffanderson1653
    @jeffanderson1653 3 роки тому

    Well done Mr. Pete.
    I have enjoyed George Bell for years.
    His South Bend lathe series was outstanding.

  • @ronaldkearn3322
    @ronaldkearn3322 3 роки тому +2

    What an awesome and interesting project! I can't wait for part two!

  • @chucksmall9258
    @chucksmall9258 3 роки тому +1

    I remember years ago reading a how to article in a old car magazine on how to make a flex beam torque wrench using a shift lever from a model A Ford transmission.

  • @lathammarx1458
    @lathammarx1458 Рік тому

    Lol "reinforced learning" catchphrase for everything so somebody could write a book, which no one wanted to read....You crack me up Tubalcain, not only do I always learn something new in each video, you always make me laugh even on a tough day. Thanks for that.

  • @vat_1989
    @vat_1989 3 роки тому

    You sir are amazing, your channel is gold. I have learnt so much from you. Bless you with good health and more subscribers

  • @bestfriendhank1424
    @bestfriendhank1424 3 роки тому

    I’m glad you are geared up to do another series. 👍

  • @oooooooooorly
    @oooooooooorly 3 роки тому

    Oh wow, this is fantastic! Cutaways are amazing - it's always a delight to find them in museums and such (the Udvar-Hazy center has a wonderful collection of aircraft engine cutaways). Brilliant pedagogical tools; if our schools were functional students would have access to these sorts of things...

  • @rogertaylor1589
    @rogertaylor1589 3 роки тому

    More great memories. We did a lot of auto part cut-a-ways at my first school. I made a 24" bow saw from a Peerless power hack saw blade and the kids would take turns sectioning the larger cut-a-ways. Great video

  • @stuartlockwood9645
    @stuartlockwood9645 3 роки тому

    Hi Mr Pete ☺ the old box is in pretty good nick for its age, I guess they didn't build redundancy in it , not like the junk we have now,lol . This is going to be an interesting series, looking forward to the next one, stay safe mate, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart.uk.

  • @inspector1794
    @inspector1794 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the extra credit, without it I would never have graduated from high school.
    Another project possibility, A parts washer made from a recycled stainless steel kitchen sink.

  • @DDB168
    @DDB168 3 роки тому

    That was great Mr Pete. I've stayed back for all the extra credit this semester - hope I get a High Distinction 😉

  • @Mr19thcenturyman
    @Mr19thcenturyman Рік тому

    Thanks for the lesson. Took my first one apart yesterday.

  • @trialnterror
    @trialnterror 3 роки тому +3

    Oh come on Dewalt send ol Mr. Pete a set of your finest!!!

  • @paulg3336
    @paulg3336 3 роки тому +1

    16:38 for a display unit you can use roll pins (spring pins)

  • @michaellitzkow8123
    @michaellitzkow8123 3 роки тому +8

    Thank you for another great video! I wonder if one of these transmissions could be used as a reduction drive for the bandsaw you were trying to convert for metalworking a while back? Wouldn't it be cool to have a stick shift on your bandsaw?

  • @joegarrett7580
    @joegarrett7580 3 роки тому +2

    Great video. It's amazing that something so simple has gone to the wayside. Modern technology has made things next to impossible for simple mechanics to repair. One thought. It may be worth while to paint the interior of the gearbox white to make it easier to view the interior of the cutaway once complete. Maybe even install a few small led lights inside.

  • @tgfcujhb7583
    @tgfcujhb7583 3 роки тому +2

    For a gearbox that hasn't had oil in it for so long it looks like a winner..👍👍👍👍👍

  • @CRUZER1800
    @CRUZER1800 3 роки тому

    Another fun video, Lyle.... I always enjoy seeing how these old beauties were made and put together. Looking forward to the remaining parts to come...
    Russ

  • @andyZ3500s
    @andyZ3500s 3 роки тому +2

    " Sameless Self Promoters", that was a good one Mr.Pete.

  • @jamesdrake2378
    @jamesdrake2378 3 роки тому

    Mr.Pete you do multi part videos correctly in my estimation, I've noticed that lately many youtubers copy your or attempt to copy you technique for video production. What they are doing is taking a something that could be done in one part and dragging it out into multi parts I guess to have content where there is none. Thanks and greetings for the NJ Bayshore.

  • @mattthescrapwhisperer
    @mattthescrapwhisperer 3 роки тому

    As usual, extra credit was quite informative.

  • @boagart
    @boagart 3 роки тому

    Great content as usual, thanks again Mr Pete. All your extra credit parts are super interesting too, I always watch them which I guess means that four decades after leaving school I finally became a teachers pet.

  • @Daledavispratt
    @Daledavispratt 3 роки тому +3

    Looking forward to all of this series. Very interesting. Thanks, Mr. Pete! :-)

  • @scottchadbourne4759
    @scottchadbourne4759 3 роки тому

    Excellent presentation and timely .Thank you so much! I just bought my first Model A (1930) upon retirement from my 52 years of employment and also from working on antique tractors. I noticed a nice little puddle on the machine shed floor where my car had marked it's territory under the transmission over the past week. Hoping it was the wrong gear oil from the previous owner. Oh, by the way. Someone played a trick on you and put a Cubs logo on your t-shirt. :-)

  • @billwalck1324
    @billwalck1324 3 роки тому

    What a cute little unit. In essence, the same as now, without the loose needles and hardened thrust washers and the constant-mesh gearing and synchronizers and all the other things that higher horsepower requires. Should make a darned good cutaway. BTW, the detent "bullets" not only help secure the gear in mesh, but lock the adjacent shaft to keep the unit from going into 2 gears at once. A bit of nomenclature: input shaft, main shaft, counter shaft/cluster, reverse idler and shaft. 1st, 2nd and reverse are gear drives, 3rd is a spline clutch. All of the gears, input and main shafts and cluster are steel forgings, castings would not stand up, even at the reduced loadings of the day. These shafts make excellent sources of alloy steel for fabrication.

  • @blackdog3265
    @blackdog3265 3 роки тому

    Man o man with the size of that splines shaft it could handle a big block Chevy..that Mr.Ford had in his backyard shed.

  • @AaronEngineering
    @AaronEngineering 3 роки тому

    Nice, love the old fashioned "crash" gearbox. Easy, nice and simple, the good ol Pre-Synchromesh days LOL. Cheers, Aaron.

  • @dri50
    @dri50 3 роки тому

    I rebuilt the T5 transmission in my 1990 Mustang. Even though it's 60 years newer there are many similarities between that Ford 3 speed and my 5 speed, especially if you ignore how they tacked on the overdrive 5th and the syncros. I had no problem in following along. The T5 has a similar cluster gear, similar reverse idler shaft, input shaft, output shaft, and shifting forks. Looking forward to the next in the series.

  • @johnstrange6799
    @johnstrange6799 3 роки тому

    Simple, elegant, effective, and beautiful. The transmission is nice too.

  • @dannyl2598
    @dannyl2598 3 роки тому

    Thank you Mr Pete. I really enjoyed this video and shared it with someone that has a model A.
    You also made my wife's day with your comment on educators. Have a great weekend.

  • @crf250lguy
    @crf250lguy Рік тому

    Just got a model a and trying to learn as much as possible
    Thanks for the video

  • @haroldadelman1130
    @haroldadelman1130 3 роки тому

    Hi Lyle, I have been told that the dark green paint was specified because it perfectly matched the color of dried and aged oil and grease. There was little chance of having no leakage, so why not camouflage it!

  • @TheRadioShop
    @TheRadioShop 3 роки тому

    Simple but yet effective design from that era. Thanks for the tear down. Been through a few of them myself. Now lets see you do a modern automatic! :) I am sure you can. Did a four part video on a 2003 Ford 4R70W for my mustang last year. Was very fun. Thanks Mr Pete.

  • @kawharm
    @kawharm 3 роки тому

    Cool project!! Very similar to motorcycle transmissions.

  • @MaturePatriot
    @MaturePatriot 3 роки тому

    A good learning experience for beginners.

  • @dwtees
    @dwtees 3 роки тому

    Mr. Pete, great entertaining video. I have a request. Would you consider making a how to video to make a splined hardened shaft. Non hardened would be OK if I'm asking too much.

  • @russellmcclenning9607
    @russellmcclenning9607 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you Lyle .

  • @johnapel2856
    @johnapel2856 3 роки тому

    I always enjoy cutaways.
    This should be interesting.
    Thanks.

  • @carabela125
    @carabela125 3 роки тому

    Reminds of auto shop class in high school. They had a V-8 cutaway in the classroom. I think all the cuts were painted yellow or maybe red.

  • @troyparr1659
    @troyparr1659 3 роки тому

    Thanks for this excellent video! Extremely interesting to see inside a gearbox like this, particularly as I've always regarded gearboxes as something too complicated to get involved with! Now for the first time in my 60 years I can get some understanding of how gearboxes work. Thank you so much :-)

  • @ddblairco
    @ddblairco 3 роки тому

    nice video Mr. Pete. My father and I tackled that shifter spring before and I don't blame you for leaving it in.

  • @Farm_fab
    @Farm_fab 3 роки тому

    I have one of these that came with the bell housing. I'm going to use mine for a garden tractor somewhat like the Popular Mechanics pow'r pup tractor. I also have a '49 Plymouth transmission I want to do the same with. It was a column shifter, and I'll need to make it a floor shifter to make it work. It too is a 3 speed, but it has a very long pilot shaft.

  • @toolbox-gua
    @toolbox-gua 3 роки тому

    This will be a fascinating series! Thank you and stay well.

  • @OleGramps53
    @OleGramps53 3 роки тому +4

    Flash back to things I did in my occupation. That's a small one compared to the 5 -16 speeds I did so often.

  • @superrodder2002
    @superrodder2002 3 роки тому +1

    I keep counter shafts and old kingpins to use as large punched. Ive been beating on an old ford kingpin for over 40 years and haven't made a dent in it yet.

  • @kevinkoepke8311
    @kevinkoepke8311 3 роки тому

    Thanks for this. Looking forward for the rest.

  • @bigray2859
    @bigray2859 3 роки тому

    Excellent as always! Thanks!

  • @mugsymegaton3769
    @mugsymegaton3769 3 роки тому

    I saw an old South Bend lathe on Craigslist last year that had a manual car transmission rigged into the pulley system, I think he had a 12 or 16 speed lathe.
    Without the quick change gearbox.

  • @tom7601
    @tom7601 3 роки тому

    The heavy spring on the shifter “handle” held the handle in position. While driving, the driver could lift the handle out of the detent and rotate it out of the way to allow more leg room for the center passenger.

    • @mrpete222
      @mrpete222  3 роки тому

      Thanks I did not realize that

  • @fredohnemus7685
    @fredohnemus7685 3 роки тому

    In all the manual transmissions I used to work on, the needle bearings where free. Held in place by just grease to reassemble. Almost always, some fell back out making one want to say, never mind. I never seen needle bearings like them on that transmission. Makes me think that they made a change to just rile me. Much preferred to work on automatics back then.

  • @danbreyfogle8486
    @danbreyfogle8486 3 роки тому

    What an interesting series. I can hardly wait to see all four parts.

  • @jhawker2895
    @jhawker2895 3 роки тому +10

    Now I know for sure that you are a " Shifty " character..... :p

  • @sallybrokaw6124
    @sallybrokaw6124 3 роки тому +4

    Housing could be painted Oliver or Forest Green. Be a close match.

  • @RD_MT
    @RD_MT 3 роки тому

    Great video! Great series.

  • @gkeyman565
    @gkeyman565 3 роки тому

    This should be an interesting series of video's, Thanks for all your hard work to make them.
    Have a great day

  • @TheDisorderly1
    @TheDisorderly1 3 роки тому

    Its unbelievable that these oild transmissions are still around after 90 years.

  • @steveskouson9620
    @steveskouson9620 3 роки тому

    First engine I ever changed, was in a '31
    Victoria.
    steve

  • @stanervin6108
    @stanervin6108 3 роки тому +8

    You can get replacement rivets at Rivet World. At the outlet center on the old bypass. Between Batteries R Us and Lucille's Lampshades and Chandelier Emporium.
    Just found out they are running a sale on #4 copper rivets. If you buy over a pound the burrs are free!
    Read less

    • @stanervin6108
      @stanervin6108 3 роки тому

      @uncle reeler Yes! That whole outlet center is great!
      I usually stop for lunch at Sammy's Only Sammiches. Their weekday special is usually an open face refried beans and onions. Monday I have a noon appointment to get my trailer hitch ball polished and calibrated at Shiny Balls.

  • @jodydoakes8754
    @jodydoakes8754 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this video, very interesting. I have driven a few Model A's, but never had one apart. I think Dr Elden Lichty, Dept of Ed, IS(N)U, wrote one of those books you referenced, that nobody read. Looking forward to the rest of the series.

    • @mrpete222
      @mrpete222  3 роки тому +1

      I had him as a professor in one of my education classes

    • @jodydoakes8754
      @jodydoakes8754 3 роки тому

      @@mrpete222 Me too. We might have been in the same class, probably 1967 or 68.

  • @randyhertzberg7549
    @randyhertzberg7549 3 роки тому

    My first "gokart" build , I used a '49 Plymouth trans , was very similar to your "T" tranny

  • @garthbutton699
    @garthbutton699 3 роки тому

    Had one of these transmissions on my first lathe, thanks for your efforts

  • @donmittlestaedt1117
    @donmittlestaedt1117 3 роки тому

    Thanks Mr Pete

  • @kimknowles3681
    @kimknowles3681 3 роки тому

    Wish now that I had taken the old trans with my "30" when I bought it. Would have been fun to disassemble along with you.

  • @ggordon4127
    @ggordon4127 3 роки тому

    It looks well designed and extremely rugged. I would be surprised that in a model A that they ever broke. Did they?

  • @fixitmakeit
    @fixitmakeit 3 роки тому

    if only modern transmissions were so straight forward .

    • @OleGramps53
      @OleGramps53 3 роки тому

      To many rely on to automatic transmissions and they really don't teach manual transmissions in Driver's Ed anymore. Unless you have to drive heavy motor vehicles you don't see manuals as standard equipment transmissions.

  • @4SafetyTraining
    @4SafetyTraining 3 роки тому

    Love to make cutaways, never done any auto stuff but need to get a head of the scrap man.

  • @kingkotkot2341
    @kingkotkot2341 3 роки тому

    high tech even for today standards. its simple in design like a race dog style box

  • @kimber1958
    @kimber1958 3 роки тому

    Nice work

  • @4GSR
    @4GSR 3 роки тому

    Used to be a machinery builder/rebuilder located in Fredericksburg, Texas that used to build a milling head to convert a planer into a planermill. The milling head had a set of gears gutted from a Model A tranny! Highly doubt any of those milling heads exists today. The company is lone gone, too.

  • @emerybuzzell10
    @emerybuzzell10 3 роки тому

    reminds me of time spent under a shade tree

  • @rosshoney9534
    @rosshoney9534 3 роки тому

    Us Aussie mechanics call them the input shaft or spigot shaft, the output shaft or main shaft, the cluster gear or counter gear or lay gear.

  • @angelramos-2005
    @angelramos-2005 3 роки тому

    Nice video.Thank you.

  • @tindoortailgator
    @tindoortailgator 3 роки тому +1

    Lyle, Paint it Green - Thanks Again, Stay Safe...

  • @termlimit
    @termlimit 3 роки тому

    Mr. Pete, How do you manage dust collection in the basement shop? I was rewatching your Sharpening Drill Bits Lisle Grinder Tips 466/67 videos and was wondering what type of dust collection you have in the basement. Thanks again, always a good day for one of your videos.

  • @bcbloc02
    @bcbloc02 3 роки тому

    You know honestly considering the power a Model a made that is a pretty robust looking transmission. I bet failures were few as long as the lube stayed in them.

  • @pavski
    @pavski 3 роки тому

    Very cool kind sir. Thank you for your videos.

  • @elsdp-4560
    @elsdp-4560 3 роки тому

    Thank you for sharing. Enjoyed.

  • @ericcorse
    @ericcorse 3 роки тому +3

    This is interesting, I'd love to see the machine that hobbed that cluster gear.

  • @luderickwong
    @luderickwong 3 роки тому

    this size....with beefy gear like this, one of the best candidate to be modify to be a diy lathe/mill gear box. i wonder someone had done it before?