Hands down the best information and salesman ever I don’t care what brand of arrow broadhead sharpener and strop you use if you follow these very easy achievable steps you will save a lot of time money and recover more of your intended game..
I learned in Highschool woodshop class, a strop is how with your hand-plane, you can get wood shavings thin enough to easily read a newspaper through. Why that never occurred to me that it should be that way on broadheads is beyond me lol. Thanks for sharing, Troy!
I've been using the Work Sharp Pro w/strop. I've been happy with the edge after spending time stropping. I'm an old meat cutter from waaaaaaay back. I always got a better edge with a flat strop. Personally, I believe the flat strop is the way to go. Thanks Troy. You never disappoint!
Thanks for the video, RF! Gonna try that stropping technique on my newly sharpened broadheads. Numbers showing improvement with that little bit of effort is really encouraging.
I got some stropping compound and after fooling around with it for 30 minutes or so was able to get my tough heads looking like mirrors and could slice through paper with curly Q's and nothing much on the blades. It's made all the difference in the world. Plus it got my boys pretty interested and they started sharpening things and learned how to strop their knives. We had a lot of fun. You can make little chores like that a lot of fun and some good time with the kids
You are the man. I love my adult arrows 31 inch volcans 100 gr insert 200 gr 3blade tuff head all white fletching. Killed 2 a buck and a hog full pass through
Excellent video; a sharpness data value to compare to other broadheads! Do you also sharpen the tip (if so how)? Can the tip also get measured on a Bess system? Great info. on this channel!
Excellent video. I have been using Montec G5 125 grain 3 blade stainless broadheads for a few years. The one problem that has always bothered me is the poor edge and the dificulty in obtaining a reasonably shart edge. I purchased the 344 sharpener and found some improvement but I wanted much better. The 344 uses sand paper on a curved jig in finer and finer grits culminating with a cardboard with polishing compound strop. I found using 2000 grit wet paper wet worked much better. Have you tried such? Keep up the good work.
Great info. For some broadheads like Magnus Stingers sharpening freehand can be a little tricky due to the possibility of rubbing the ferrule. Check out the KME broadhead sharpener, it really takes all the human error out.
Nice work, man. There's nothing like a razor-sharp edge on your broadheads. I just cleaned up my edc knife & and am working on my broadheads now. Off work until Thursday, recovering from a terrible case of c19 . Getting everything sharpened up and ready to go.
I like using a bess tester for after I pull my broadhead out of the dirt and re-condition it back to sharp. You can see the progress at every grit level, you can also see if your cheap chinesium stone makes it more dull in the middle of grits.
Troy Avenue is in the best tester for a while and I find that if you grab the threaded area where it goes into the insert and the tip of the Broadhead putting your forearms on the table on each side of the scale then you have total control moving straight down in a horizontal plane I took that pivot point off of mine and threw it in the drawer
Stopping an edge refines the scratch pattern of the edge. That is also why stopping in different directions will give you better results. A refined edge is also more stable and will hold the sharpness longer.
Hey show one day how to clean a strop i know i can probably find it somewhere I'd just like to see how you do it even if you do nice video I've done all of this for years i never put one in the quiver unless i have sharpened it
Thanks RF. Been shooting Adult arrows for the last six years. The plan B arrow is a real thing. Recovery is 100% even on pour shot angles. Only 8 whitetail. But vary happy
The next level from stropping is a buffing wheel. I started using an electric buffing wheel and they are scary sharp. The edges shine like a mirror and cut you if you look at them
@tannervanasten, yes and no. If it's your first time buffing a blade, the absolutely, odds are you will over do it. Just like people over stropp ther blades. It's about the learning curve. I do believe that a buffing wheel and compound can absolutely increase the fines of the edge grain. Thus making it "sharper"
@@tannervanasten it is certainly possible to roll an edge but that is because you have the wrong angle or are using too much pressure and in either case your also causing excessive wear on your buffing wheel and probably damaging it. Ive seen allot of rolled edges with a strop as well. I strop my blades first and then use the buffing wheel and they are noticably sharper after the buffing wheel.
I have an ask...please do the 3 blade, on a flat stone and then strop. Never seen actual numbers from anyone else after being sharpened; only new out of package.
What about using a ceramic stick? Would that work similar to stropping? I've used a couple strokes with a small flat diamond steel and then a ceramic stick and edge seems to be much better but I also don't have a tester like that. This was on a 175g Valkyrie shortbe three blade head. Just interested in your thoughts and if I'm out to lunch so to speak. This is a double bevel not a single bevel.
I use the work sharp to change the edge to 35 degrees then I sharpen it with buffing wheels from grizzlies and bench grinder. Then I use the strop. I love the buffing wheels the best because they basically take off the least amount of metal off the heads. I sharpened some heads 10 times and still look new. You can't do that with the work sharp. All the metal will be gone
If you really want to get it sick sharp I take mine down to about 2000 grit with sandpaper then start to strop. I've gotten some Abowyer heads as low as 90 on that scale
Anybody that works on blades can feel and hear the edge getting sharp. I could hear on the fine strip when it went sharp. 3 or 4 strokes and I heard it.
The arrowhead is a chopping tool and not a cutting one, so the sharpening should be like an axe, that is, at an angle of 45. With this sharpening, the best resistance of the cutting edge is achieved, which will not suffer even from bones.Of course, if the metal is of high quality, such as hot carbon steel. You can chop bones with an axe without harming him. The angle may be smaller, but the very edge needs to be made at 45 degrees.
Um....who have you been talking to? An arrow is flying on a perpedicular plane to the animals "armor" (bones). Adult broadheads approach at a low angle and cut things. Your comment just avoids the FACT that you have to make internal cuts to be lethal. The internal organs are quite mobile, and multi dimensional in their thickness, ability to roll out of the way (arteries) etc. Thin to win in the organs. Mechanical broadheads, parachute at impact and are actually trying to chop bones like an ax.
@@RanchFairy I am a blacksmith and this is an axiom-if you want a razor, then an angle of 10 degrees cuts well but quickly becomes dull, if you want it to be sharp for a long time and withstand bones, sharpen it like an axe 45 degrees. There is a compromise-sharpen it at 10 and make the very edge at 45. By the way, axes can also cut paper like a razor.
@ I appreciate the comment and have been working with broadheads for a long time. 90% are between 25 and 32 degrees. So you example has the extreme ends. Through actual testing, that bevel angle range works for the perpendicular travel of an arrow. It is not swung in an arc and driven down on the animals. Different deal
@@RanchFairy The perfect tip goes through the bone and remains sharp to go on, what's the use if it becomes blunt like a Siberian felt boot It depends on the quality of the steel and the sharpening angle. Try to sharpen one tip at different angles from different sides, then swipe over the bone and measure on your device how the sharpness will change.
I watch the channel for the fantastic information, but love the comedy. No one can pull off being a smart a$$ like the fairy! What a hoot!
Hands down the best information and salesman ever I don’t care what brand of arrow broadhead sharpener and strop you use if you follow these very easy achievable steps you will save a lot of time money and recover more of your intended game..
I learned in Highschool woodshop class, a strop is how with your hand-plane, you can get wood shavings thin enough to easily read a newspaper through.
Why that never occurred to me that it should be that way on broadheads is beyond me lol.
Thanks for sharing, Troy!
I've been using the Work Sharp Pro w/strop. I've been happy with the edge after spending time stropping. I'm an old meat cutter from waaaaaaay back. I always got a better edge with a flat strop. Personally, I believe the flat strop is the way to go. Thanks Troy. You never disappoint!
Now test a disposable flapper for sharpness out of the package
Fantastic info as always, Troy. Talking about the number of passes on the strop was a great idea.
Thanks Troy! I love this channel
Great video , I sharpened all mine other day keep kicking ass brother
way cool to me! been sharpening my stuff and it makes a heck of a difference!
Thanks for the video, RF! Gonna try that stropping technique on my newly sharpened broadheads. Numbers showing improvement with that little bit of effort is really encouraging.
Just for S&Gs do the same thing using cardboard instead of the strop. It will definitely work in a pinch.
Good info.
My favorite is the inside of a little Debbie box and stopping compound.
I got some stropping compound and after fooling around with it for 30 minutes or so was able to get my tough heads looking like mirrors and could slice through paper with curly Q's and nothing much on the blades. It's made all the difference in the world. Plus it got my boys pretty interested and they started sharpening things and learned how to strop their knives. We had a lot of fun. You can make little chores like that a lot of fun and some good time with the kids
I'm always glad them u post a video, thanks
You are the man. I love my adult arrows 31 inch volcans 100 gr insert 200 gr 3blade tuff head all white fletching. Killed 2 a buck and a hog full pass through
Excellent video; a sharpness data value to compare to other broadheads! Do you also sharpen the tip (if so how)? Can the tip also get measured on a Bess system? Great info. on this channel!
Excellent video. I have been using Montec G5 125 grain 3 blade stainless broadheads for a few years. The one problem that has always bothered me is the poor edge and the dificulty in obtaining a reasonably shart edge. I purchased the 344 sharpener and found some improvement but I wanted much better. The 344 uses sand paper on a curved jig in finer and finer grits culminating with a cardboard with polishing compound strop. I found using 2000 grit wet paper wet worked much better. Have you tried such? Keep up the good work.
Montec broad heads are MIM they just don't get really razor sharp like a machined head will or even a regular replaceable blade
Great info. For some broadheads like Magnus Stingers sharpening freehand can be a little tricky due to the possibility of rubbing the ferrule. Check out the KME broadhead sharpener, it really takes all the human error out.
Nice work, man. There's nothing like a razor-sharp edge on your broadheads. I just cleaned up my edc knife & and am working on my broadheads now. Off work until Thursday, recovering from a terrible case of c19 . Getting everything sharpened up and ready to go.
I like using a bess tester for after I pull my broadhead out of the dirt and re-condition it back to sharp. You can see the progress at every grit level, you can also see if your cheap chinesium stone makes it more dull in the middle of grits.
Troy Avenue is in the best tester for a while and I find that if you grab the threaded area where it goes into the insert and the tip of the Broadhead putting your forearms on the table on each side of the scale then you have total control moving straight down in a horizontal plane I took that pivot point off of mine and threw it in the drawer
Stopping an edge refines the scratch pattern of the edge. That is also why stopping in different directions will give you better results. A refined edge is also more stable and will hold the sharpness longer.
Hey show one day how to clean a strop i know i can probably find it somewhere I'd just like to see how you do it even if you do nice video I've done all of this for years i never put one in the quiver unless i have sharpened it
I have been using leather to finish off my sharpening for 45 years. I BELIEVE. I have never bought a broadhead "sharp enough".
Thanks RF. Been shooting Adult arrows for the last six years. The plan B arrow is a real thing. Recovery is 100% even on pour shot angles. Only 8 whitetail. But vary happy
This is way better!
The next level from stropping is a buffing wheel. I started using an electric buffing wheel and they are scary sharp. The edges shine like a mirror and cut you if you look at them
@@veteranoutdoorsman9978 on the broadhead with replacement blades I use a buffing wheel with strop paste on my Dremel get them razor sharp
a strop will leave a better edge. Buffing wheel is asking for rolling edge
@tannervanasten, yes and no. If it's your first time buffing a blade, the absolutely, odds are you will over do it. Just like people over stropp ther blades. It's about the learning curve. I do believe that a buffing wheel and compound can absolutely increase the fines of the edge grain. Thus making it "sharper"
@@tannervanasten it is certainly possible to roll an edge but that is because you have the wrong angle or are using too much pressure and in either case your also causing excessive wear on your buffing wheel and probably damaging it. Ive seen allot of rolled edges with a strop as well. I strop my blades first and then use the buffing wheel and they are noticably sharper after the buffing wheel.
@@tannervanasten on the Dremel I just slower the rpm.
I have an ask...please do the 3 blade, on a flat stone and then strop. Never seen actual numbers from anyone else after being sharpened; only new out of package.
What about using a ceramic stick? Would that work similar to stropping? I've used a couple strokes with a small flat diamond steel and then a ceramic stick and edge seems to be much better but I also don't have a tester like that. This was on a 175g Valkyrie shortbe three blade head. Just interested in your thoughts and if I'm out to lunch so to speak. This is a double bevel not a single bevel.
I use the work sharp to change the edge to 35 degrees then I sharpen it with buffing wheels from grizzlies and bench grinder. Then I use the strop. I love the buffing wheels the best because they basically take off the least amount of metal off the heads. I sharpened some heads 10 times and still look new. You can't do that with the work sharp. All the metal will be gone
If you really want to get it sick sharp I take mine down to about 2000 grit with sandpaper then start to strop. I've gotten some Abowyer heads as low as 90 on that scale
My Magnus snuffer are razor sharp.
So is strop better than buffing compound?
Where are you putting the buffing compound?
I put it on the rough side of the strop.
Leave smooth. Smooth.
Try what I do is after stripping do a cycle of ceramic then arkansa fine stone back to stropping. It's wild.
Stropping not stripping. 😂lmao
I am addicted to your and Docs info. I am old and disabled cannot afford to track. Thank you I have pushed this for years.
Anybody that works on blades can feel and hear the edge getting sharp. I could hear on the fine strip when it went sharp. 3 or 4 strokes and I heard it.
SO WHERE DO YOU BUY A STROPE AND THE FAIR DUST FROM? THX
Sirius Archery Ranch Fairy store
Thanks for your business
Question cuz I don't know can you use the same strop from the knife to your broad head?
Yes
My mom just asked me what I wanted for Christmas im (31) 😅 and think I'm gunna send her this
don't lick the broadheads after you're done!
The arrowhead is a chopping tool and not a cutting one, so the sharpening should be like an axe, that is, at an angle of 45. With this sharpening, the best resistance of the cutting edge is achieved, which will not suffer even from bones.Of course, if the metal is of high quality, such as hot carbon steel. You can chop bones with an axe without harming him. The angle may be smaller, but the very edge needs to be made at 45 degrees.
Um....who have you been talking to? An arrow is flying on a perpedicular plane to the animals "armor" (bones). Adult broadheads approach at a low angle and cut things. Your comment just avoids the FACT that you have to make internal cuts to be lethal. The internal organs are quite mobile, and multi dimensional in their thickness, ability to roll out of the way (arteries) etc. Thin to win in the organs.
Mechanical broadheads, parachute at impact and are actually trying to chop bones like an ax.
@@RanchFairy I am a blacksmith and this is an axiom-if you want a razor, then an angle of 10 degrees cuts well but quickly becomes dull, if you want it to be sharp for a long time and withstand bones, sharpen it like an axe 45 degrees. There is a compromise-sharpen it at 10 and make the very edge at 45. By the way, axes can also cut paper like a razor.
@ I appreciate the comment and have been working with broadheads for a long time. 90% are between 25 and 32 degrees. So you example has the extreme ends. Through actual testing, that bevel angle range works for the perpendicular travel of an arrow. It is not swung in an arc and driven down on the animals. Different deal
@@RanchFairy The perfect tip goes through the bone and remains sharp to go on, what's the use if it becomes blunt like a Siberian felt boot It depends on the quality of the steel and the sharpening angle. Try to sharpen one tip at different angles from different sides, then swipe over the bone and measure on your device how the sharpness will change.
My dad was a barber I know what else that stropping hanging from his barber chair was good for😬
To make sure they aren't dull, you have to lightly pass the blade ove the tip of your tongue...
True story....😂
Lol aren't you l little mature for "bro" your loosing cool points for that one!!!!