First off, Happy New Year!
Second, you explain things in such a way, this "couch logger" can understand. Thank you for taking the time to show me/us how you do what you do!
Never seen three taken down as fast as these and with such ease. Nice to see someone with such calm doing felling like you. Be safe out there.
I enjoy it when you explain things. Thank you! Oh yes, Happy New Year Pete!!
Just want to thank you for teaching me how to cut a tree from your vids . I learn something every time I watch. I like the plung cut for safety I found out. Let's you have time to get away from the tree once you cut it. I feel real comfortable doing it that way too. Thanks again Mr Butts.
Nice. I used to do alot of what your doing. Now I'm just cutting enough off my own land to keep my lt 40super Diesel going. Keep up the good videos. I'm still learning.
Good job Pete. If I hadn't had back surgery I would like to be there with you deer hunting in the snow. Take care and HAPPY NEW YEAR
Safety is number one reason for bore cutting. When I worked in the woods I did a lot of bore cutting. It would give you more time to get away from the tree to avoid getting hit. Be safe
It makes perfect sense after you explained why you bore cut. I watched the other guys do things different but the bore cut is the safest way to fell timber in my opinion . (most of Europe bore cuts also) On occasion I think with bad wood you have to use different cuts. Nice job on the video and telling others they can do things their way safely too.
Thanks for the video. My brother and i also self taught prefer the bore cut method too. We started with firewood and slowly added logging. Had logger explain it to us and a watching some of yours and loggerwades videos helped see it in action
Great lesson for bore cutting and dropping trees. thank you!!
Awesome explanation of your felling method
As a guy new to dropping hardwoods, it was nice to hear your points on this!
Nice cutting Pete, smooth as silk as always, happy new year buddy
Nice way to say that Nuts. I'm living in the West and learning from a guy back East. Gotta love UA-cam for making that possible. Happy New Year y'all, be safe as this too shall pass, one day at a time.
Great work!! Great stuff!!
The cuts you show are very helpful to me at my work.
Climber/arborist-4 a residential tree Co.
Alot of useful info! The physics of the grain, holding wood, hinge, and the cut, are all very interesting.
Happy New Year!! Cheers!
I’m cutting a lot of big dead oak , bore cut for two reasons , like you said not to split it and second so there is a trigger and gives you time to get out of harms way for the most part.
Have a Happy New Year Pete!
Former Logger here in Central NC. I was taught this method many yrs ago and passed this teaching on to all new employee's. I still use this method and so do they to this day. Love your vids, keep up the good work and stay safe out there!
JB-aka Treekilr
Very well said!! That's how I cut all my trees is by bore cutting!! Stay safe my friend!!
Nice video - everyone has their own style - you make it look easy knocking them down and placing where you want. Cheers, stay safe and Happy New Year
Now I know why I get an expert to fell trees. I don't mind cutting firewood but standing trees, that's for the expert which I will never be.
keep up the good work and keep safe
I like this method . I teach my guys to bore out the heart wood through the face and bore in on each side seperately, behind the hinge. Seeing to many accidentle bore cuts into the opposite side hinge. Its a great way to teach a beginner. I like how you cut the sap wood clean also
First person I've seen(other than myself) do the sloping cut before the horizontal cutt. Unless I have to be really accurate, then it's gunning sights all the way. Big fan of the bore cut for heavy leaners. Thanks for sharing.
HAPPY NEW YEAR Pete! Stay safe and healthy, and may God bless...
Nutsy, my dad doesnt call it chase cutting, we call it the pie cut method, from back in the days when saws werent as fast as they are now. my great uncles cut bigger hardwood than we can even really think of these days with saws much different than what we are used to now, some of those old school tricks are still very handy and safer than storing all of the trees kinnetic energy up into one spot and sending it, just my two cents, Great video though, you are fun to watch do what you do thats for sure, thanks so much for sharing and happy new year from Vermont
Safety is key in hardwood timber they behave different than like a straight pine that you can cut through easier cause of the softer wood too happy new year brother
i wish some of our west coast friends would try this method they probably like it smaller saw, sorter bar, less filing, less weight to lug around, a stock saw with a 24" bar will smoke a hot-rod saw with a 38' bar any day , not to mention 2-3 pounds lighter , thats adds up at the end of day ! hey i can cut a 6 foot tree with a 24" bar handily ! oh well just my forty yrs worth of 2 cents lol !
You make this tree cutting thing look so easy. Also, that saw is really sharp. Thanks for posting
Never heard of bore cutting before, but I’m all for trying new ways to improve. What’s the gain of boring versus just cutting through all the way to the smile and having the tree down. Honest, not being critical but curious. I’m gonna start dropping trees next week so I’ll try this
Thanks
@@Shogomockid Midwest hardwoods like to split or barber chair. Chase cutting a large oak or the like is just asking for a split. Also helps keep fiber from pulling.
You make some of the most down to earth, no nonsense, informative tree cutting videos. The only thing that could be complained about is, how you make everything look so easy. Many people watching your videos probably do not understand the hours of experience it takes to get to your level.
I bore cut almost all leaning trees. And if possible all Red Oaks. After making firewood out of a nice 30 inch pretty Red Oak back in the late 90s, I try to remove all possibilities of that happening again. We didn’t have UA-cam back then, I had to swallow my pride and start asking other loggers how they cut.
Might be there's too many you tubers making firewood for lots of people to get making firewood isn't a good thing. I laughed out loud though. Thanks guys
Brilliantly explained, looks like good work!
Thanks for all your efforts. Have a Happy New Year!
Wow, great timing. I found your channel after you fell a black oak on Captain Kleeman's channel. I was mentioning that you prefer to bore cut to a friend and we were both curious as to why? Now I know.
I am on the west coast near Portland Oregon. Whole different logging scene by comparison.
I appreciate you not wrongfully calling "gator" a barber chair. 🙂
Well explained and demonstrated. Well done.
On a recent video I saw you bore cutting and ALMOST asked as to why you did this.
Figuring that you have been asked this MANY times, I thought it best to try and do a "search" and found this video, which is EXACTLY what I was looking for!!
Another advantage to this method, and correct me if I am wrong, but as you are BACK CUTTING towards your "trigger" it appears that you are loading your kerf with chips that would help in keeping the tree from sitting on your bar.
A great video with a good explanation.
Thanks Pete!
On a plunge cut the trigger wood keeps the tree from pinching the bar. For a large tree you can also add wedges.
Thanks Pete! Guys like you, keep guys like me safe when we have to tackle a bigger tree ourselves. When in doubt reference a pro!!
Great vid buddy. I cut some nice poplar today... Happy New Year. Take care
Had my place logged off. The. Hand cutter did it the same way you do. Get every bit of wood. Wisconsin. Alot of red and white oak trees.
Happy New Year Pete, great explanation how and why you cut the way you do..be safe
Your patience is astounding. My first inclination would be to tell anyone who asked if they have to ask, they'll never understand.
Happy new yr Pete. The hell with 2020. I always bore cut too. I’m not comfortable yet doing what you did at the end with the 1 side. I woulda bucked those limbs and got them out of my way so I can work both sides and match my bore cuts. But of course I’m not in production😜.
Thanks, I got my tail tucked a few years ago when I barber chaired a leaner that slabbed off. It could have gone fubar. I'm still humbled.
Same here I was taught the same way to bore cut it was as he explained it the only safe way to cut a tree and get home that evening. I loved your explanation short and sweet and to the point. I still hate cutting poplar to this day. it seems everytime I cut one they still go wrong on the stump. I would rather cut anything in the woods but poplar. But here in the Central Appalachians that is about all seem to get sometimes on a boundary. I have question do you bore the heart through the face cut your bigger trees? The guy that taught me showed me that on the oaks and maples and I still use it if the tree has enough diameter and I don't have a long enough bar. I am a weird cutter I prefer a 32 or 36 inch bar even though I don't really need it. I know they are heavy I just have my own reasons for having such long bars on my saws. Good luck and stay safe in the woods.
Safety and not turning the butt log into pulp. ESPECIALLY when it’s 20 below zero. If you back cut a rock maple or red oak in 20 below weather the but log will split and crack. PERIOD. Great job wild man. Happy New Years to you.
Ive cut alot of leaners Ive bored a few times if its to bad Ill strap it Happy New Year brother stay safe n sane man!
Nutsy I appreciate these kind of instructions more than you know, with 50 acres of hillside I got all kinds of weird ass trees; so this helps me immensely understand the way to handle them. Have a great 2021 and cya next year 😬👍🎉
I have alder that lean a lot! I wrap the trunk above the cuts with heavy chain when falling them to stop jackknifing. Works.
the school of hard drops...love it thanks !!
Great job explaining and showing! I’m from southern WV and enjoy seeing the videos! See a lot of the same types of terrain, trees, situations you do. I can take a lot of what you say or do in the videos in the mountains with me. Keep up the good work and stay safe 🪓
Happy New Year Pete hope you have a great 2021
Good job training the up and coming cutters.
Merry Christmas to you and your family . THINK SAFETY and always put SAFETY FIRST . MY words into logging.
Excellent video and demonstration sir😃
Had some time to kill, so i’ve been watching some older videos... 👍 The bore cut is awesome! And problaby the safest way to cut a tree. Fun fact, this is the first thing they will teach you on a safety class for chainsaws here in Sweden! Nice job, buddy! 👍🇸🇪
I love cutting in the snow... Not!
You know Pete... you have an excellent way of explaining things.
No two trees are alike... no two landing zones are alike. Those subtle adaptations make all the difference when you’re trying to save the trees while harvesting an intact log. I enjoy watching you adapt to the particular needs of each situation.
Excellent explanation!
Hope your New Year goes really, REALLY well!
Another great day out in the office. Happy new year. Stay safe
Great how to do it video. Keep up the great videos
Experience and knowledge will keep you safe
I'm new to your channel and I've been wondering this every since i1st saw your video... barber chair makes since... 5 years cutting 25 years in the electrical trade but self taught and lots of buckin Billy videos... I use the bore cut on weighted leaners ... but I keep learning from ya'll thanks for sharing
Thanks, 71 plus years old and still learning....really like your explanation.
I enjoy bore cuts they always give me a chance to think outside of the standard box and a challenge. Because I love dem and will do them whenever i can Because I do more Westcoast style cutting an falling.
Good video, and excellent explanation of why and how to maximize safety and yield
On the west coast we have lots of soft wood like Doug fir, white fir and so on the trees are usually straight and the branches are evenly divided on the trees usually. And they don’t open up like hard wood trees, when cut. As easy. Soft woods are probably more predictable to cut also. Our hard wood trees are smaller too and mostly alder and maple and oak and a feW others . Just some light on the idea
Don't kid yourself....your cutting is exciting, it's not boring!
good vid little buddy !! well done laddy !!!
I saw Sorrel Ericsson give his demo of this method at the Richmond logging Expo back in the late 80’s.
Carl Williams I did SE GOL ( game of logging ) in 1994we had 4 different classes here in NE Ohio it was very interesting and educational . Boring was a necessity to set the hinge
Happy new year Nutzy!
Well Pete your doing it right ! Could you imagine pulling fiber like they do out West ,on a big WO Veneer tree ? No because it would split !
ya if you dont stay with the stump on some of these big firs or if your lettin the hinge hold it all the way you get some major wood pull here in the west for sure.... ol pete can put some wood down pretty quick huh lol you guys have a safe and Happy New Year now!
Love the way you cut, keep it up.
The bore or plunge cut is def helpful in many places and a cut anyone that regularly runs a saw should know how to do.
With that said more often than not it's not needed. IMHO it's harder on the equipment chains bars etc.
So on the farm buying my own. I don't use it much. In your shoes with someone else covering overhead of equipment. Use it on every tree bigger than 20"
You guys make it look so friggin easy!!!
As hot as it's been here I'm loving that snow. I miss cold weather.
This is exactly the video you needed to make. Perfect.
Dave do you remember the name of that stuff he's walking around on is. ? Its slipped my mind
Interesting. (y).. Happy New Year!!
Thank you
Great info
Stay safe
Awesome video,thanks for the info
we need to get your bunches running for that stuff !
Stay safe out there brother.
I'm in ohio and I do it both ways. Just depends. Ash tree's taught me some lessons. Most others even with a little lean don't bug me much.
Good show man.
hi there man you make it look easy . you have a skill john
Well done. I didn’t know about that heart bore? Learned something new!
Nice work, happy new year
Happy New Year Pete
I live in PA. That’s how a lot of logging is done here too. I’m just a firewood guy, and unless I’m falling a hard leaner I don’t usually bore cut. Maybe just in my head, but seems like a lot more load on the saw than chasing the cut, plus triggering it always scares the hell out of me because if I can even get a wedge in it’s in the side, but I’ve definitely experienced more tear out or fiber pull on certain species when I don’t bore. Kinda silly to criticize guys who do it differently. Think it’s best to just learn from others and keep asking questions nd experimenting for ourselves. Also, just curious, have you noticed in the passed ten years or so all the black Cherry seems to get sudden root rot and hollow out prematurely? Just something I’ve noticed. They always grew tall and spindly, but I seem to remember big mature black cherries when I was a kid.
Any idea why? Used to be though, eh? When I was a kid, the farm I now own was logged, and I remember Cherry was what they wanted then and there were some big trees then.
Great instructions, You oughta been a teacher... That Husky you use is unbelievable, I'd love to bet F to F with you for a better look at your saw, bar, and chains.
Great video
Love it
Hey Pete 👋. Happy New Year
Happy new year @nuts319 ✌🎉
Good job Pete.
happy new year awesome video
Really like the helmet cam and happy new year to you 👍
Another scenario where a plunge cut is often the only safe way to bring down a tall tree when there is a chance of core rot like in old Aspen and sometimes cedars.
I cut the same way. I took the Game of Logging back in the 90's. Safety/$$ is the big reason for boar cutting. Most accidents happen 6-10 ft of the stump and the boar cut with trigger method allows escape time you should be long gone as the tree falls. In my opinion workers comp rates$$ was the biggest reason for the push to boar cut. Hope you have a happy,healthy and productive new year. Stay safe an log on my friend.
We call the split trunk a barber chair here on the west coast. Very dangerous business. I didn’t ask because I already knew. Lol.
Had a chain saw instructor from up Canada way come down to Illinois and teach our BSA leader group the basics of chainsaw maintenance and use. He told us that after he had one or two trees explode on him because of hidden rotten wood he made it a personal practice to bore cut all trees around 10" & over. Rotten wood chips look and smell different than healthy ones as you well know. He sold me. Stay safe, and add a metal whistle to your vest to demand emergency attention when needed. It can often be heard over a chainsaw. and weighs almost nothing. Try it out
wow damm nice skills ! I live in California . been a tree man for 30 years just my compliment of opinion ..
I split a money tree as a rookie not bore cutting it and punching the heart. Any lean at all I bore cut now. If im having to turn one very hard ill do something different but the bore is safe. Ky tree service owner I do a lot of climbing.
Great video
Good advice. I've barber chaired trees, before.... not fun.
Just stumbled on to your channel great content and awesome work with those trees but man that saws quick !!! What is it ?
I'm just amazed to watch somebody do so much cutting without getting their saw stuck haha! I carry two saws with me all the time just for the purpose of cutting out the one I got stuck🤣
The saw gets stuck because the wood is under compression. In most cases one side of the tree will be under compression while the other is under tension. In general you should first make the face cut on the compression side and then make the back cut on the tension side.
@@wizardsuth maybe I should have prefaced my statement a little bit more😅 Im in North Florida and was hit by Hurricane Aida. I have 40 acres of trees basically laying on the ground in a spaghetti entanglement so there's a whole lot of freestyle cutting and you can never tell in some cases which way the work is going to go. something I have learned from this though is the usefulness and power of wedges. I've been using them often now. it's amazing that you can have a saw pinched in a log laying on the ground and get it out by pounding wedges around