This reminds me of the Paria fuel diving/oil pipeline accident. Treated the divers like fish food. 4 humans trapped in a pipe. Letting them die and then flushing them out like fish food.
To me this really is a problem of degrading moral standarts and philosophical ignorance... Modern neoliberals basically have abandoned humanism. In their view, they can treat humans however they want, who cares about human rights? In my view, that is the root cause why our societies fail so hard in the last decades.
I wouldn't jump right to blaming cost cutting. There's no guarantee that any number of well-paid safety consultants would have spotted the faulty valve.
Another perfect example of if you think safety is expensive, try having an accident. Not only did they lose the whole rig but due to your incompetence insurance only paid out half, on a half a billion dollar policy. Then they jacked the premiums up to boot.
16:00 Nitrogen is a 'purge gas'. It removes oxygen from any space it is introduced to, eliminating fire and/or explosion risk. *Source: I've worked on several maintenance projects in oil refineries.*
Super Video again. Being stuck because of bad weather on the island of Lastovo in Croatia, in an old submarine bunker, it is a great pleasure to getting a new video from you👍👍
The more one watches UA-cam, the more they learn about what the creators do in order to be as visible as possible. Must be annoying to do this whole other thing while only wanting to do the main thing, atlesdt I would. Let them clickbate and sponsor etc, why are you whining, it's free quality content. ^^
It is. I would love to just put my energy into making better videos. But there is a game and the crazy thing is that the algorithm goes where people click.
Jolly good click bait titles don't really lie, they just attract my attention. If I know the Channel, well I can have a good chuckle and watch happily. 😅 If they're poorly done by an unknown Channel, well I can use the *Un-Click Button* and go elsewhere, muttering to myself such comments as _"What a load of cods-wallop"_ and simply never bother to visit that Channel again.🙄
I've watched all of your videos, some multiple times and just love the delivery, pacing and detail. The more tiny details, the better! Thanks again. ✨️
Id imagine they used nitrogen because it was available and works really well for displacing water. Its a relatively common thing to use in the oilfield. Ive pumped nitrogen down well that had tools stuck because the hydrostatic pressure was greater than the pipe yield could handle. Pump nitrogen to purge the well of all its water and give the tools a tug and they come out... usually... sometimes.
I would never have learned of oil rig catastrophes if it weren't for your channel. The quality of your production and your excellent delivery are always professional, on point and educational as well as interesting and entertaining. Excellent work, once again, with this video.
It sounds like they either underestimated the severity of the situation or that they were given wrong/not enough information on what the situation was.
They had no way of knowing the extent of the negligence involved, here. I’m sure they were confident they could save a “slightly listing but still floating rig” but that was far from the extent of the damages.
Insurance is such a crazy scam. Insured for 500 mil, only covered half because of negligence, then immediately made that money back with the next few years of premiums.
I pay $29 per month. May not seem like much My vehicle was purchased for $3,000 15 years of ownership it might be worth 4-5k But even at my small rate I have paid them over $5500 in insurance and never used any of it. So I’ve paid 150% the purchase price of my truck on insuring it. Yup hella scam. And many of yall out there paying $1-200+ insurance 😮
@@fastinradfordable I’ve had car insurance company refuse to pay out because they reckoned the wheels weren’t standard (yet they were the wheels that came fitted to the car when I bought it from the manufacturers official dealership). Since then, I’ve had 15 years of accident free driving yet my policy goes up in price every year and never gets any cheaper despite my no claims bonus, age and experience. In the UK, youngsters literally can’t afford to insure cars, often they’re quoted £2000 a year to insure a car worth £500. Insurance companies are crooks and it’s why the UK shouldn’t introduce privatised health insurance.
@@notmenotme614 And that right there is why it will get privatized unless you lot organize and resist. That money gets reinvested into politicians who then start chipping away at regulations until you're left with a system like the US: legally required to pay a fortune for services that would rather see you dead than pay out.
At that time i was on Maersk AHTS, going full speed to the location, because there was a small hope, of towing the rig to shallow waters, but it sank just before arrival ! But if the risers was still attached, i can see there was no hope of towing anyway, all i saw was all the oil spilled, and a lot vessels around, the site.
Skilled and experienced people are paid more because of their abilities to ensure safe and productive operations in their respective fields of expertise. They also have the ability to deal with accidents and emergencies in a safe and timely manner, reducing loss of lives and equipment. Skimping on staffing costs resulted in the loss of a $350 million installation that would have paid for itself 100 times over the course of its useful life. That is not a good business model. Add to that the additional costs of cleaning up the oil spill, the increase in insurance premium and the damage to the company's reputation, and you have an economic and environmental disaster.
Staffing was NEVER the issue here. It was the alarm sequencing - - they were paralleled -- which causes a general freakout. They also had an astounding number of critical equipment failures. Yet, this rig was in the open ocean where corrosion is always going to happen -- where everything needs to be easily inspected and testable. No crew could save this lousy design. It goes a long ways towards explaining the Italian economy. In the USN, it's expected that EVERYTHING is going to fail. Crews practically go out of their minds inspecting, testing, cleaning , maintaining. Yet, all of that must be done. Nature is out to kill you.
Unfortunately, modern massive corporations aren't managed with the future in mind. Everything is centered around short-term gains in order to shore up stock prices. Pump and dump is an industry norm thanks to lawyers. Its cheaper to file for bankruptcy and come back under a different name than to ensure that disasters like this dont happen in the first place.
Their SCADA system didn't have an inherent time-track of the alarm cascade. Such a sequencing is VITAL for the operators. The consequence alarms needed to be shut of -- via the software. They had 'balance' alarms repeating the same injury from all over creation. That's no help. You need to see the FIRST alarms local to the problem. Instead, Petrobras had PARALLELED alarms. That's the LAST thing you want in any alarm scheme.
After TWA 800 exploded because of heated fuel fumes (in part), the aerospace industry started filling wing tanks with inert gas like nitrogen to prevent just such a thing, so it makes sense that they would use nitrogen here.
Another great video from Waterline Stories! I've really enjoyed watching your videos over the last year, I appreciate your story telling and dedication to the accuracy of the videos. Great work!
Thanks. That’s great to hear. And even better to hear that you’ve been watching for so long and continue to support the channel. I really appreciate that. 👍🏻
Well, this is the last video on your channel and now I can say I’ve seen every video😂😂😂 You do a great job telling a story that’s why this channel will be around for a while. Thank you for the uploads.
I love how well you explain your vids.. and letting the world know about bad behavior on the waves! seriously.. your better then the news and nation geographic
Great video as always! Really like the diagrams on this one, they really help understand exactly what's going on. I also appreciate the explanation of the relevant terms, makes your videos quite educational.
Always love your videos! I had knee surgery lately and your videos have got me through it! My only thing is how the company hasn’t gone bankrupt yet after a 400% increase in insurance LOL
This cost saving has really paid off. Every time something like this happens, I ask myself when the desk jockeys will finally wake up and leave the engineering work to the engineers.
Nah.. they already got their bonus from all the cost cutting. If the company goes down they'll be the first to land even better paying jobs to cut costs at another company.
Any facility or plant, that handles flammable hydrocarbons needs properly trained people and adequate systems. When such a site has the additional problem of being a floating vessel on the unforgiving sea......it needs military discipline. This whole disaster revolves the simple task of "Isolation" making sure that pipes etc are correctly isolated. The storage tanks affect buoyancy........it makes sense to have redundant valves to ensure there can never be a situation where control of the tanks is lost.
But the Project Manager made bonus by deleting all of those redundant valves, back flow preventers & not putting sensors where they weren't needed saved the company hundreds of thousands of dollars!
It is foolhardy to think that everything will work as it should in such a harsh environment. It would be prudent to ensure that every command is doing as it should, assuming a valve has closed or opened because you pressed a button is not good enough.
@waterlinestories I was born in Memmingen near Munich, my mother met my South African father while he was on holiday , and once I was born my mother and I moved to cape town to be with him.
Tis why we now have lock out tag out systems for Everything. So some idiot cannot leave valves partly open or not closed off or operate things that shouldn't be.
Nitrogen was used because it displaces oxygen and prevents fire unless the fuel is self oxidizing. Nitrogen is also non corrosive and stable in hot environments.
Inwatch this channel and several similar ones, the more i watch the more i think: 1. Always budget for experienced crew. 2. The more complex the system/vehicle/rig/etc, the more ways it could fail and the more robust the safety needs to be. 3. Neglecting safety budgeting for profits always leads to a loss, and executives seem to always repeat this pattern unless regulations or Authorities intervene. 4. Crews need to be able to make decisions independent of executives and company pressure. 5. Never fly Pakistan Airlines (mostly tongue in cheek... mostly). I'd like if you consider doing a video on the grounding of the Rena off the coast of Tauranga, and the subsequent cleanup, salvage and legal outcome.
Also (16:15) the nitrogen escaping under pressure from unseen damage would, theoretically, not fan the flames were another combustion event to occur, imo.
*via a state owned corporation who for all intents and purposes functions like a private entity I don't see what your point is, it's not exactly like private oil compaines have a great record when it comes to safety.
@@williamtheconqueror2719 Noooooo! We have to blame capitalism for everything! You can't just point out that the government does the exact same shit big corpos do all the goddamn time.
They POISON the biota. Detergents/soaps ruin all common cell walls. Your skin is the exception -- but even it takes a beating. Take a look the next time you hand wash dishes.
The official story of the oil rig disaster varies quite a bit from what I heard at the time. Knowing Petrobas I'd say there was a lot of things covered up. 11 men died, or at least that’s the official figure, in reality the management of the POB was bad and nobody really knew how many people where on board. We used our ROV to fly over the wreck as all Petrobas was concerned about was trying to salvage the mooring equipment. The P-36 is upside down with only the pontoon's sticking out of the mud.
Thanks Beverly. Great to see you here as always. I used to teach recreational scuba diving. Not done any sat diving. I’m intrigued and would love to but it’s really reserved for commercial divers with a huge amount of training.
@waterlinestories Thanks for telling me that, but you have so much knowledge in all of these stories, like you lived it. so you're no longer living the living life on the high seas?! 🙁 And I'm sorry but your name is Kevin, correct? Old minds forget faster 😅
@beverlyreiner-baillargeon6205 hey Beverly. It’s Paul. 😀 No living inland and staying connected here until my son is old enough to go on some adventures with me.
First, there's the loss of lives of the firefighters and others to think about. Waste of human lives. But how can a company that's got such a valuable asset as this rig allow this scenario to develop. Surely they must have senior experienced people who could have sorted this. Or were these the ones they fired to save money? It beggars belief.
I love this channel and the way he goes into the details. It makes you ask yourself if you would of survived if you where there but I only have one question. Why does he have to stay standing up while telling the story? Maybe we should start a GoFundMe for him to get a chair. (sarcasm)
One wonders why anyone pays for insurance. If ever you need to use it, get the lawyer bills ready. After you pay for that, and supposing you win, you'll never get insurance again. It's maybe the world's biggest scam. What these corporations do to businesses, individual health, life as we know it.... there's no end to the damage they inflict. RIP firefighters.
Yikes! When factoring in the lost revenue from the rig, and the future increase in insurance premiums, it’s likely best to write it off as a “cost-of-doing-business” expense, not claiming the loss with insurance. Avoiding the higher premiums alone, makes this worthwhile…. Whew!
If it’s intentional no problem 👍🏻 but if not, some soft furnishings in your room might reduce the echoey sound in your voice, I find it a bit distracting ….. love your channel 👍🏻 x❤x
I’d love to know more on the actual reactions when all the alarms were going off? Surely instead of confusion, they should be interpreted as fact with rectifications prioritised depending on the whole system picture at the time….. as opposed to hoping it’s maybe a bad dream?
i know it is unrelated, but title got me thinking ... was team working on Concord game larger than oil rig crew? because damn, being able to sink 350-400+ mil is quite an achievement
Yeah basically every video on the USCSB youtube channel (highly recommend if you liked this vid) starts out with "It was the one day of the year they shut down operations for maintenance."
Petrobras violated so MANY required norms that the insurers had legal recourse. For such enormous commercial policies, the stipulations are quite massive. Try getting fire insurance for a lumber mill. Just try it. You're in for quite an experience.
Petrobras refused the Langs MPSS, said it was too big and too expensive and selected this! Eventually they adopted MPSS, could have saved both lives and money.
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Remarkable how many problems are directly caused by treating workers like a disposable commodity
This reminds me of the Paria fuel diving/oil pipeline accident. Treated the divers like fish food. 4 humans trapped in a pipe. Letting them die and then flushing them out like fish food.
But we really are.
The world's only truly renewable resource.
Well if you consider them as disposable and then they are disposed of, it’s hard to call it a “problem”. It would be their intended use.
Apparently not as many as the problems it resolves.
To me this really is a problem of degrading moral standarts and philosophical ignorance...
Modern neoliberals basically have abandoned humanism.
In their view, they can treat humans however they want, who cares about human rights? In my view, that is the root cause why our societies fail so hard in the last decades.
Saving pennies and losing dollars and lives. The holes in the swiss cheese model lined up as they say.
That’s pretty much how it works. 👍🏻
At least Petrobras felt this one...
Closing the door after the horse has bolted. As usual
Have you covered the Abatros?
@waterlinestories There was a movie made about it, White Squall.
I wouldn't jump right to blaming cost cutting. There's no guarantee that any number of well-paid safety consultants would have spotted the faulty valve.
Another perfect example of if you think safety is expensive, try having an accident. Not only did they lose the whole rig but due to your incompetence insurance only paid out half, on a half a billion dollar policy. Then they jacked the premiums up to boot.
"Think, safety pays you" is a company safety motto I've seen.
16:00 Nitrogen is a 'purge gas'. It removes oxygen from any space it is introduced to, eliminating fire and/or explosion risk.
*Source: I've worked on several maintenance projects in oil refineries.*
Thanks. That’s what I thought. Good to have it confirmed. 👍🏻
Super Video again. Being stuck because of bad weather on the island of Lastovo in Croatia, in an old submarine bunker, it is a great pleasure to getting a new video from you👍👍
Sounds like an amazing place to be stuck 👌🏻😀
@@waterlinestories yes, hole Island full of bunkers and beautiful 👍
@rainerpitsch6347 great stuff. enjoy
I'm glad you didn't add clickbait for this video. Your content is great and doesn't need a "This $5 part sank an oil rig" title.
Well, the clickbait titles do work.
Unfortunate but true. ☠️
The more one watches UA-cam, the more they learn about what the creators do in order to be as visible as possible.
Must be annoying to do this whole other thing while only wanting to do the main thing, atlesdt I would. Let them clickbate and sponsor etc, why are you whining, it's free quality content. ^^
It is. I would love to just put my energy into making better videos. But there is a game and the crazy thing is that the algorithm goes where people click.
Jolly good click bait titles don't really lie, they just attract my attention. If I know the Channel, well I can have a good chuckle and watch happily. 😅
If they're poorly done by an unknown Channel, well I can use the *Un-Click Button* and go elsewhere, muttering to myself such comments as _"What a load of cods-wallop"_ and simply never bother to visit that Channel again.🙄
@BrassLock 🤣
I've watched all of your videos, some multiple times and just love the delivery, pacing and detail. The more tiny details, the better!
Thanks again. ✨️
😀 Thanks, I really appreciate that 👍🏻 I’ll keep at the detail
The rig wasnt sunk by an unskilled crew, the rig was sunk by poor management and systems design.
I love how you gave the entire story right to the end. Even what their insurance policy costs - before and after. Amazing job!!
Id imagine they used nitrogen because it was available and works really well for displacing water. Its a relatively common thing to use in the oilfield. Ive pumped nitrogen down well that had tools stuck because the hydrostatic pressure was greater than the pipe yield could handle. Pump nitrogen to purge the well of all its water and give the tools a tug and they come out... usually... sometimes.
They used a lot of it and It's also benign to the environment, inert and cheapish.
I would never have learned of oil rig catastrophes if it weren't for your channel. The quality of your production and your excellent delivery are always professional, on point and educational as well as interesting and entertaining.
Excellent work, once again, with this video.
Thanks. That’s precisely what I aim for. Great to see it comes across.
Leaving an inspectionlid open at night - no sailor would EVER do a suicidal thing like that.
As a Brazilian, thanks for covering this storie. I was a child when this happened so I don't remember this that well
👍🏻
I’d be interested to read Smit Salvage attempt’s debrief---they rarely take on a job they don’t feel confident they can pull off.
It sounds like they either underestimated the severity of the situation or that they were given wrong/not enough information on what the situation was.
Also the weather wasn't working in their favor.
They had no way of knowing the extent of the negligence involved, here. I’m sure they were confident they could save a “slightly listing but still floating rig” but that was far from the extent of the damages.
Insurance is such a crazy scam. Insured for 500 mil, only covered half because of negligence, then immediately made that money back with the next few years of premiums.
I pay $29 per month.
May not seem like much
My vehicle was purchased for $3,000
15 years of ownership it might be worth 4-5k
But even at my small rate I have paid them over $5500 in insurance and never used any of it.
So I’ve paid 150% the purchase price of my truck on insuring it.
Yup hella scam.
And many of yall out there paying $1-200+ insurance 😮
@@fastinradfordable I’ve had car insurance company refuse to pay out because they reckoned the wheels weren’t standard (yet they were the wheels that came fitted to the car when I bought it from the manufacturers official dealership). Since then, I’ve had 15 years of accident free driving yet my policy goes up in price every year and never gets any cheaper despite my no claims bonus, age and experience.
In the UK, youngsters literally can’t afford to insure cars, often they’re quoted £2000 a year to insure a car worth £500.
Insurance companies are crooks and it’s why the UK shouldn’t introduce privatised health insurance.
@@notmenotme614 And that right there is why it will get privatized unless you lot organize and resist. That money gets reinvested into politicians who then start chipping away at regulations until you're left with a system like the US: legally required to pay a fortune for services that would rather see you dead than pay out.
@@notmenotme614Gord forbid u get into an accident and u pay 4,000 insurance 🥲
Another great telling of a tragic story, those poor firefighters. Superb delivery as always, thank you again. Fantastic channel.
😀 thanks for the support 👍🏻
At that time i was on Maersk AHTS, going full speed to the location, because there was a small hope, of towing the rig to shallow waters, but it sank just before arrival ! But if the risers was still attached, i can see there was no hope of towing anyway, all i saw was all the oil spilled, and a lot vessels around, the site.
Incredible. 👌🏻
Thank you for the very informative and articulate presentation of this complex and deeply costly event!
Thanks 👍🏻😀
Skilled and experienced people are paid more because of their abilities to ensure safe and productive operations in their respective fields of expertise. They also have the ability to deal with accidents and emergencies in a safe and timely manner, reducing loss of lives and equipment.
Skimping on staffing costs resulted in the loss of a $350 million installation that would have paid for itself 100 times over the course of its useful life. That is not a good business model.
Add to that the additional costs of cleaning up the oil spill, the increase in insurance premium and the damage to the company's reputation, and you have an economic and environmental disaster.
Staffing was NEVER the issue here. It was the alarm sequencing - - they were paralleled -- which causes a general freakout. They also had an astounding number of critical equipment failures. Yet, this rig was in the open ocean where corrosion is always going to happen -- where everything needs to be easily inspected and testable. No crew could save this lousy design. It goes a long ways towards explaining the Italian economy. In the USN, it's expected that EVERYTHING is going to fail. Crews practically go out of their minds inspecting, testing, cleaning , maintaining. Yet, all of that must be done. Nature is out to kill you.
Unfortunately, modern massive corporations aren't managed with the future in mind. Everything is centered around short-term gains in order to shore up stock prices. Pump and dump is an industry norm thanks to lawyers. Its cheaper to file for bankruptcy and come back under a different name than to ensure that disasters like this dont happen in the first place.
2000 alarms seems like a problem.
Their SCADA system didn't have an inherent time-track of the alarm cascade. Such a sequencing is VITAL for the operators. The consequence alarms needed to be shut of -- via the software. They had 'balance' alarms repeating the same injury from all over creation. That's no help. You need to see the FIRST alarms local to the problem. Instead, Petrobras had PARALLELED alarms. That's the LAST thing you want in any alarm scheme.
After TWA 800 exploded because of heated fuel fumes (in part), the aerospace industry started filling wing tanks with inert gas like nitrogen to prevent just such a thing, so it makes sense that they would use nitrogen here.
Missile !
Oh, I’m early. I found you a few days ago and been binging on your stuff. Very well done vids.
Thanks. Welcome aboard. 😀☠️
Love your channel.
Hey. Thanks that’s amazing, I really appreciate it. Happy Sunday😀👍🏻
Another great video from Waterline Stories! I've really enjoyed watching your videos over the last year, I appreciate your story telling and dedication to the accuracy of the videos. Great work!
Thanks. That’s great to hear. And even better to hear that you’ve been watching for so long and continue to support the channel. I really appreciate that. 👍🏻
Happy Saturday waterliners 🤙💙
🌊👍🏻🤣
Happy Saturday back at ya @loobielou6965😀
Well, this is the last video on your channel and now I can say I’ve seen every video😂😂😂
You do a great job telling a story that’s why this channel will be around for a while. Thank you for the uploads.
The commitment. Thanks, I really appreciate that
Sealing off a breather to a tank containing volatile compounds that need to expand and contract should be a big no no. I wonder what their reason was.
I love how well you explain your vids.. and letting the world know about bad behavior on the waves! seriously.. your better then the news and nation geographic
😀 thanks for that 👍🏻
Great video as always! Really like the diagrams on this one, they really help understand exactly what's going on. I also appreciate the explanation of the relevant terms, makes your videos quite educational.
Thanks. That’s the aim
Always love your videos! I had knee surgery lately and your videos have got me through it! My only thing is how the company hasn’t gone bankrupt yet after a 400% increase in insurance LOL
Thanks. Hope your knee is healing well.
Insurance is still only millions compared to the billions in revenue. Small price to pay to stay in business.
Looks like a single executive won't be able to buy their 3rd supercar
Especially since Operation Car Wash
I really like the pace and animation in your videos. Fantastic content and so many lessons learnt.
Thanks, I really appreciate that 👍🏻
This cost saving has really paid off. Every time something like this happens, I ask myself when the desk jockeys will finally wake up and leave the engineering work to the engineers.
Nah.. they already got their bonus from all the cost cutting. If the company goes down they'll be the first to land even better paying jobs to cut costs at another company.
They should bought American. There is a LOT of political payoffs to Brasilia.
Really love your “doo, DOO, Doo, doooooooo” intro theme.
🤣☠️☠️☠️👍🏻
I have a morbid fascination with these disasters considering that I work in Oil and Gas 😂
Any facility or plant, that handles flammable hydrocarbons needs properly trained people and adequate systems. When such a site has the additional problem of being a floating vessel on the unforgiving sea......it needs military discipline. This whole disaster revolves the simple task of "Isolation" making sure that pipes etc are correctly isolated. The storage tanks affect buoyancy........it makes sense to have redundant valves to ensure there can never be a situation where control of the tanks is lost.
But the Project Manager made bonus by deleting all of those redundant valves, back flow preventers & not putting sensors where they weren't needed saved the company hundreds of thousands of dollars!
I love that you use the nautical terms first and then land-based term. Thanks
Thanks for saying so. The sum is to make it accessible.
It is foolhardy to think that everything will work as it should in such a harsh environment. It would be prudent to ensure that every command is doing as it should, assuming a valve has closed or opened because you pressed a button is not good enough.
The world is being subcontracted to Hell.
Excellent job.
Thank you.
Excellent work!
Thanks 👍🏻
Dude, your channel is awesome to watch , from a fellow South African
Thanks. You have a German flag in your profile. I live in Germany. How are you connected to Germany?
@@waterlinestoriesI was trying to place your accent and for some reason I was thinking New Zealand.. SA makes a lot more sense 😁
@rowanwilson8896 I often get that 🤣
@waterlinestories I was born in Memmingen near Munich, my mother met my South African father while he was on holiday , and once I was born my mother and I moved to cape town to be with him.
This situation sounds an awful lot like the piper Alpha incident. Anytime you've got a pump missing and a blind flange....shits going south.
Tis why we now have lock out tag out systems for Everything. So some idiot cannot leave valves partly open or not closed off or operate things that shouldn't be.
Nitrogen was used because it displaces oxygen and prevents fire unless the fuel is self oxidizing. Nitrogen is also non corrosive and stable in hot environments.
I love your new graphic software
Thanks. I really voted that too. Trying to do more of it.
The company learned their lesson. Larger cuts were made to up company value. Done and done.
Ive never been a boat or seen the ocean in person but i love your viedos man
😀 thanks 👍🏻
@waterlinestories question man ..I've watched all of your videos...do you have any channels you could recommend me ?
@DavidRotmund try Brick Imortar. He’s always got great videos.
@waterlinestories yeah I watched all his stuff too I found your channel right before his
ooh a story i never heard yet. excellent
👍🏻
Inwatch this channel and several similar ones, the more i watch the more i think: 1. Always budget for experienced crew. 2. The more complex the system/vehicle/rig/etc, the more ways it could fail and the more robust the safety needs to be. 3. Neglecting safety budgeting for profits always leads to a loss, and executives seem to always repeat this pattern unless regulations or Authorities intervene. 4. Crews need to be able to make decisions independent of executives and company pressure. 5. Never fly Pakistan Airlines (mostly tongue in cheek... mostly).
I'd like if you consider doing a video on the grounding of the Rena off the coast of Tauranga, and the subsequent cleanup, salvage and legal outcome.
Annnd what's the bet that management was terribly upset and heart broken over the terrible and sudden loss of their...
lower insurance premium.
Built in Italy, modified and operated by Brazil, what could possibly go wrong?
And with no help from the French!😅
Racism isn't the answer, numpty.
Kind of crazy that the entire rig costs as much as the production of a game like Concord. Puts things into perspective.
Also (16:15) the nitrogen escaping under pressure from unseen damage would, theoretically, not fan the flames were another combustion event to occur, imo.
He has intell hand gestures
Government owned oil fields?
What could possibly go wrong?!
I trust the government implicitly 🤣
*via a state owned corporation who for all intents and purposes functions like a private entity
I don't see what your point is, it's not exactly like private oil compaines have a great record when it comes to safety.
GREED and corruption
@@randomchannel-px6ho It was still state owned, stop coping.
@@williamtheconqueror2719 Noooooo! We have to blame capitalism for everything! You can't just point out that the government does the exact same shit big corpos do all the goddamn time.
Dispersants are the worst, they just make the oil sink and corrode the floor. Shame.
That’s what I thought. Seems like a out of sight out of mind thing lol
They POISON the biota. Detergents/soaps ruin all common cell walls.
Your skin is the exception -- but even it takes a beating. Take a look the next time you hand wash dishes.
The official story of the oil rig disaster varies quite a bit from what I heard at the time. Knowing Petrobas I'd say there was a lot of things covered up. 11 men died, or at least that’s the official figure, in reality the management of the POB was bad and nobody really knew how many people where on board. We used our ROV to fly over the wreck as all Petrobas was concerned about was trying to salvage the mooring equipment. The P-36 is upside down with only the pontoon's sticking out of the mud.
Another great video from my favorite guy 😉🚢 Have you ever worked on a rig? Done Sat diving?
Thanks Beverly. Great to see you here as always. I used to teach recreational scuba diving. Not done any sat diving. I’m intrigued and would love to but it’s really reserved for commercial divers with a huge amount of training.
@waterlinestories Thanks for telling me that, but you have so much knowledge in all of these stories, like you lived it. so you're no longer living the living life on the high seas?! 🙁 And I'm sorry but your name is Kevin, correct? Old minds forget faster 😅
@beverlyreiner-baillargeon6205 hey Beverly. It’s Paul. 😀
No living inland and staying connected here until my son is old enough to go on some adventures with me.
@@waterlinestories Hey Paul, nice to hear that. Enjoy him while he's young cause they grow fast. 😳😉
@beverlyreiner-baillargeon6205 well he’s at an age where I kinda wish he’d grow a little faster. It can be unbearable at times 🤣
this is why workers rights and unions are important
Excellent. Should be more of it.
I love it when corpos have to pay an actual price!
I didn't look at the channel name first and was wondering how the heck you manage to lose $350,000,000 worth of WW2 airplanes.
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As soon as he said Brasil I was like, say no more fam hah.
First, there's the loss of lives of the firefighters and others to think about. Waste of human lives.
But how can a company that's got such a valuable asset as this rig allow this scenario to develop. Surely they must have senior experienced people who could have sorted this. Or were these the ones they fired to save money? It beggars belief.
How did Piper Alpha happen? A mixture of cost cutting during construction and sloppy work practices. Same same.
I love this channel and the way he goes into the details. It makes you ask yourself if you would of survived if you where there but I only have one question. Why does he have to stay standing up while telling the story? Maybe we should start a GoFundMe for him to get a chair. (sarcasm)
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Gee, that money saving method is expensive.
The emergency response team guys are bad-ass
I drove past this rig many times during 1999 and 2000 while it was tied up in the shipyard in Niteroi, Rio. Tragic story.
One wonders why anyone pays for insurance. If ever you need to use it, get the lawyer bills ready. After you pay for that, and supposing you win, you'll never get insurance again. It's maybe the world's biggest scam. What these corporations do to businesses, individual health, life as we know it.... there's no end to the damage they inflict. RIP firefighters.
Can you imagine the negligence by corpos if insurance companys always paid their lost oil rigs even if they were run as cheaply as possible.
Great comment.
Yikes! When factoring in the lost revenue from the rig, and the future increase in insurance premiums, it’s likely best to write it off as a “cost-of-doing-business” expense, not claiming the loss with insurance. Avoiding the higher premiums alone, makes this worthwhile…. Whew!
Hard to imagine why those firefighters didn't have air monitors.
If it’s intentional no problem 👍🏻 but if not, some soft furnishings in your room might reduce the echoey sound in your voice, I find it a bit distracting ….. love your channel 👍🏻 x❤x
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So, was the rig and it's support vessel both called P-36?
What a tragedy! Well, my first question would be: Aren't there any pressure and fluid level sensors in the tank?!
Thank god i work on onshore rigs
Still dangerous ik but it's not as dangerous as off shore rigs
This is one of the best!!!
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it.
Great video!
👍🏻 thanks 😀
I’d love to know more on the actual reactions when all the alarms were going off? Surely instead of confusion, they should be interpreted as fact with rectifications prioritised depending on the whole system picture at the time….. as opposed to hoping it’s maybe a bad dream?
Before intelligent systems it was pretty much impossible for the control room staff to make any clear decision from such alarm activations.
Lmao this accident put a lot of insurance adjusters kids through college, looks like 😂
i know it is unrelated, but title got me thinking ... was team working on Concord game larger than oil rig crew? because damn, being able to sink 350-400+ mil is quite an achievement
This is what happens when corners are cut, loss of life and a mess
Funny how many disasters strike during inspections.
Yeah basically every video on the USCSB youtube channel (highly recommend if you liked this vid) starts out with "It was the one day of the year they shut down operations for maintenance."
This would make a great counterpart movie to Deepwater Horizon, but with Latin actors. Pedro Pascal in the lead, etc.
Blatant insurance fraud?
Possibly. I don’t think so though. It seemed more like not enough training.
No, just blatant negligence
And rampant cost/corner cutting by management.
Petrobras violated so MANY required norms that the insurers had legal recourse.
For such enormous commercial policies, the stipulations are quite massive.
Try getting fire insurance for a lumber mill. Just try it. You're in for quite an experience.
Petrobras refused the Langs MPSS, said it was too big and too expensive and selected this! Eventually they adopted MPSS, could have saved both lives and money.
Them insurance rates, tho!!! 😅
God this is not the video to watch before bed
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How often do shortcuts lead to good outcomes?
Hey the project manager of the rig rebuild made bonus by cutting out lots of extra valves & the Rig manager made bonuses by cutting the wage bills.
What do you think of Still wakes the deep?
I bet they're glad the cut labor and training costs. It sure saved them a lot of money.
Floating priduction platform..what could go wrong
With very limited knowledge on the subject: Why insurance doesn't demand a minimum of fixed floating capacity to prevent it ever to go down?
I got an exxon AD on this vid😂
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350m for such a thing sounds like a very good deal.
Criminally undersubbed channel
Its always greed. Understaffing and contracting to save pennies cost them almost half a billion.
".. Which supplies the firefighting system." I see problems 😬
Actually not the problems I thought after hearing that. Forcing backup systems to start and destabilizing the platform was not what I expected.
19:32 bro I don't know who's doing your math, but that's roughly a 650 percent increase. 400 percent would've been about 30 million.
responsibility lies with the company as they made the decision to allow unqualified personnel aboard.
Its brazil, what did you expect
The worst disaster in the oil and gas industry happened in the USA, american rig working for a british company. Cope.
Yet people think mankind can build Star Cruisers that will operate correctly without killing everyone on it! 😂