Strange how I now find myself liking what I see here. Plenty of loco-hauled and slam door stock, no stupid different coloured doors, no hideous units with uncomfortable seating (like voyagers), and the weather’s nice!
101 304 305 and the excellent 309s o they were the days plus 47s 86s and 87s man picc was always a good place to go thanks for uploading brought back happy memories
75644 6:38 in the livery that EMR are using today...albeit slightly more pronounced. brilliant vid m8...brings back some memories...fine days with fine locos etc...top stuff
There are only so many colours to paint trains in i suppose, what goes around comes around.....But when are we going to get some rateable traction back?...
Loved it as it's my local big station living in Urmston so had many train spotting trips too Piccadilly from the 70s 😁 Class 101s my daughters loved them too 😍 Thanks Stevie 👍🏻
All those EMU's take me back to the days l travelled from Chadwell Heath into Liverpool Street. The Clacton units were great trains. Speedy and comfortable. Travelled on them a lot as a kid to the seaside. Used to look great in BR colours.
@@Cliffjumper24 The p/way engineers of old must be spinning in their graves to see the state of the lineside today. It just looks so un-kempt, if that's uncared for what about the rest of the railway? It doesn't inspire confidence, weeds and tress, bushes ect don't do the track, structures ect any good at all!
My favourite emu, i was fortunate to ride them between Crewe and Stafford (after dropping off the 37s on the North Wales Coast) they could certainly shift, not a unit to stick your head out i was 16 at the time great days.. 😊
What a fascinating collection of second-hand rolling stock; I wonder how BR spun the 305s as being wonderful NEW! trains. The 309s, though, were certainly a radical advance on what went before. I love the Met-Cam DMUS filling the place with a fug of fumes.
BR didn't spin anything. The 305's were just introduced as they were basically the same as a 304 unit so the ordinary passengers didn't see any change. I imagine the 304s were due a works visit so were withdrawn and ex NSE units with time left on the clock were drafted in-result! Made for some good filming. The 309s were always a quality unit, basically MkI stock (indeed a fleet reformation in the early 80s actually added loco hauled MkI's into the units!
The 309s used to turn up on the short lived Euston Manchester Airport service, axed when Virgin made a fuss about it, (the real reason it was axed!). Platforms 1 to 4 used to entertain the Manchester Sheffield DC electrics. Axing that and the Woodhead route was a big mistake. It would be well used by passengers now, including walkers going into the Peak district.
The Clactons kept to four cars but the 305's were indeed reduced by one car to blend in with the 304's which they were replacing (i assume due to 304's being due a works visit while the ex NSE units still had some time left before they were due).
Sat in the cab of the class 86 vulcan heritage between colchester to ipswich at about 100mph in the late early 90's. 309's were the best units b.r. made bar none. Used to be on them a lot as my dad worked on b.r. on the clacton branch from mid 70's until mid 90's. It's such a shame they are not used in a heritage capacity on the Thorpe-le-Soken to Walton Branch as 2 sets are still around on hertiage lines. Greater Anglia are missing a trick!
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus They used to turn up on Stoke on Trent and Birmingham New Street services, as well as occasionally on the Euston Manchester Airport services too. A couple of sets made a trip to Hadfield on a railtour too.
@@EM-yk1dw I only saw them in the North West when i was passing through. I imagine certain enthusiastic crews would take great delight in taking them to as many unusual places as they could!
No, sadly not. Their use in Manchester only came about because NSE had finished with them. And i'm sure some 'crank' type managers put a good case forward for their use in the north west, training costs being cheaper than a works visit for 304's that were due attention possibly???
@@grahamroffey1566 Yes, my older footage pre 2006 was all filmed on VHS (i had done a bit of cine before that, VHS was soo much better + had sound as well!). I first copied it over to DVD in short play mode to keep the quality up (the VHS tapes i filmed onto were full sized so no loss of quality unlike vid8 where they had to be cpoied onto full sized tapes) and then used a free programme (x-media recode) to converted them to MP4. The VHS tapes have now degraded and have been disposed of but i still have the DVD's and several hard drives of them in MP4.
Far better locos ..47`s...yes cool...been on many a train pulled by them..proper Brit engineering...europe thinks electrification is new...BR doing it for years....liverys not changed that much...see some of todays is based on the old days. good sounds before welded tracks....hey 86228 is still going btw..as is 82137,tho IIRC 137 has new number
The 309s had a diagram working the 17:16 SX Piccadilly to Birmingham NS via Crewe. They also did an overnight Birmingham International via Manchester Airport. Good days.
Think they were predominantly for an hourly Man Picc-Man Air express shuttle but also turned up on local diagrams to Crewe and Stoke, plus the aforementioned peak and overnight Birmingham workings. On Saturday mornings there was a semi-fast 07xx Stafford-Man Picc via Stoke they worked that I remember. When North Western Trains won the franchise they briefly had express diagrams to Euston!
The good old days, This is a valuable record. Thank you.
You're welcome! There is still a lot more to come.....
Strange how I now find myself liking what I see here. Plenty of loco-hauled and slam door stock, no stupid different coloured doors, no hideous units with uncomfortable seating (like voyagers), and the weather’s nice!
101 304 305 and the excellent 309s o they were the days plus 47s 86s and 87s man picc was always a good place to go thanks for uploading brought back happy memories
I'm pleased you like it, i have more from here, earlier and later! Will be uploaded at some point.
75644 6:38 in the livery that EMR are using today...albeit slightly more pronounced. brilliant vid m8...brings back some memories...fine days with fine locos etc...top stuff
There are only so many colours to paint trains in i suppose, what goes around comes around.....But when are we going to get some rateable traction back?...
Isn't that NSE livery?
Loved it as it's my local big station living in Urmston so had many train spotting trips too Piccadilly from the 70s 😁 Class 101s my daughters loved them too 😍 Thanks Stevie 👍🏻
Your welcome! I have more footage from the Manchester area, keep watching, there will be more.....
All those EMU's take me back to the days l travelled from Chadwell Heath into Liverpool Street. The Clacton units were great trains. Speedy and comfortable. Travelled on them a lot as a kid to the seaside. Used to look great in BR colours.
And some had griddle cars on them so you could have your morning kippers on the way up to London!
Astonishing amount of track vegetation for a mainline station.
The end of BR and the start of the chaos of Railtrack's reign.
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Well said Soi, the start of profit before safety.
@@EM-yk1dw Those in charge hadn't a clue what they were actually in charge of!
Indeed... they stopped using the Weedkiller trains as much, so the vegetation started to grow unchallenged!
@@Cliffjumper24 The p/way engineers of old must be spinning in their graves to see the state of the lineside today. It just looks so un-kempt, if that's uncared for what about the rest of the railway? It doesn't inspire confidence, weeds and tress, bushes ect don't do the track, structures ect any good at all!
My favourite emu, i was fortunate to ride them between Crewe and Stafford (after dropping off the 37s on the North Wales Coast) they could certainly shift, not a unit to stick your head out i was 16 at the time great days.. 😊
They were always good for a thrash down the Great Eastern main line. Some of the drivers told me they have been run at 100mph plus on occasions!
What a fascinating collection of second-hand rolling stock; I wonder how BR spun the 305s as being wonderful NEW! trains. The 309s, though, were certainly a radical advance on what went before. I love the Met-Cam DMUS filling the place with a fug of fumes.
BR didn't spin anything. The 305's were just introduced as they were basically the same as a 304 unit so the ordinary passengers didn't see any change. I imagine the 304s were due a works visit so were withdrawn and ex NSE units with time left on the clock were drafted in-result! Made for some good filming. The 309s were always a quality unit, basically MkI stock (indeed a fleet reformation in the early 80s actually added loco hauled MkI's into the units!
The 309s used to turn up on the short lived Euston Manchester Airport service, axed when Virgin made a fuss about it, (the real reason it was axed!). Platforms 1 to 4 used to entertain the Manchester Sheffield DC electrics. Axing that and the Woodhead route was a big mistake. It would be well used by passengers now, including walkers going into the Peak district.
I remember the old DC class 506's and was in Manchester to see them the Saturday of the farewell railtour in 1984.
EM176 I hae to agree with you there. Closing the woodhead route was the wrong thing to do. Why they didn't change it to AC, I don't know?
I remember those EMUs being 4 cars when in service out of Liverpool Street.
The Clactons kept to four cars but the 305's were indeed reduced by one car to blend in with the 304's which they were replacing (i assume due to 304's being due a works visit while the ex NSE units still had some time left before they were due).
I remember these well. Used to ride them to East Didsbury for a Tesco run.
Lovely trains and were much missed when NSE got rid of them.....
Sat in the cab of the class 86 vulcan heritage between colchester to ipswich at about 100mph in the late early 90's. 309's were the best units b.r. made bar none. Used to be on them a lot as my dad worked on b.r. on the clacton branch from mid 70's until mid 90's. It's such a shame they are not used in a heritage capacity on the Thorpe-le-Soken to Walton Branch as 2 sets are still around on hertiage lines. Greater Anglia are missing a trick!
Not much chance of that, too much self inflicted rules & deadlines we put upon ourselves these days.....
Great video! Love the trains displayed on this clip
Thank you, there is plenty more to upload, happy viewing!!!
Hi,good look forward to seeing them.Phil.
These were good sets for us at Picc I was only let down once in service when I drove them
The GE crews liked them, even with a motor cut out (which a lot were towards the end of NSE use) they could still stonk along!
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus I remember on GE timing one at 107 mph and that was a stopper .
Proper dmus and emus not like we have now
There was some good classic 1960s traction still running then but the Sprinters are now the same age as these classic units were then!
A good time to be there
Looking good enjoyed
Great Video capturing classic BR traction. Any idea what service the 309 was running?
I seem to recall they were on the Crewe run. I also had a ride there on another day plus some vid from there as well.
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus They used to turn up on Stoke on Trent and Birmingham New Street services, as well as occasionally on the Euston Manchester Airport services too. A couple of sets made a trip to Hadfield on a railtour too.
@@EM-yk1dw I only saw them in the North West when i was passing through. I imagine certain enthusiastic crews would take great delight in taking them to as many unusual places as they could!
They sometimes turned up on the Hazel Grove stopper as well.
Hi,Sio Piccadilly my old place l my be on this some were Regards.Phil.
Always a good spot for the older traction that i liked, plenty more from here for future uploads.....
My dad said that the german ICEs that are almost 30 are better than stuff that are 30 years lol
Well they will be...because they are newer...duh.
ENJOY THE VIDEO ,NICE TO SEE ENGLISH TRAINS
I wonder if class 309s are still in service today
No, sadly not. Their use in Manchester only came about because NSE had finished with them. And i'm sure some 'crank' type managers put a good case forward for their use in the north west, training costs being cheaper than a works visit for 304's that were due attention possibly???
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus aww
Very good- Few questions, were they recorded on VHS, what converter did you use?
@@grahamroffey1566 Yes, my older footage pre 2006 was all filmed on VHS (i had done a bit of cine before that, VHS was soo much better + had sound as well!). I first copied it over to DVD in short play mode to keep the quality up (the VHS tapes i filmed onto were full sized so no loss of quality unlike vid8 where they had to be cpoied onto full sized tapes) and then used a free programme (x-media recode) to converted them to MP4. The VHS tapes have now degraded and have been disposed of but i still have the DVD's and several hard drives of them in MP4.
And to think those noisy old 86s and 87s got replaced by PENDOLINOS!!!
Yes nasty toilet smelling foul things! This era was when train travel was a pleasure and not an ordeal like it is now.
Interesting to think that they were originally supposed to be replaced by the APT by about 1985,
@@AndreiTupolev lol
AndreiTupolev yes and the APT was a darn sight more comfortable than those rancid Pendolino rubbish.
When chasing Titans & Metros in Liverpool i tried to keep to loco hauled workings rather than the replacement rubbish.
Far better locos ..47`s...yes cool...been on many a train pulled by them..proper Brit engineering...europe thinks electrification is new...BR doing it for years....liverys not changed that much...see some of todays is based on the old days. good sounds before welded tracks....hey 86228 is still going btw..as is 82137,tho IIRC 137 has new number
Anyone know when the automated lady announcer started at Manchester?
s125ish around 2002 when the station was refurbished
Any idea where the 309s were heading?
The 309s had a diagram working the 17:16 SX Piccadilly to Birmingham NS via Crewe. They also did an overnight Birmingham International via Manchester Airport. Good days.
Think they were predominantly for an hourly Man Picc-Man Air express shuttle but also turned up on local diagrams to Crewe and Stoke, plus the aforementioned peak and overnight Birmingham workings. On Saturday mornings there was a semi-fast 07xx Stafford-Man Picc via Stoke they worked that I remember. When North Western Trains won the franchise they briefly had express diagrams to Euston!