There's 2 points to consider; 1 Oasis have promoted and had modern bands as support across multiple of their tours, and 2. this tour is a reunion, it's about Oasis and the focus is alllllll on Oasis, any modern band would have been lost at sea on that bill
I completely agree. I'm disappointed. Ashcroft makes sense a bit, I guess. But a Cast-Ashcroft 1-2 bores me just thinking about it. I would have liked to have seen 2 'legacy' acts and couple of newer acts. Dream line up would have been: Manics Chemical Brothers Big Special Any one of: Kneecap/King Hannah/Yard Act/Dry Cleaning
@@MassiveCatLittleLegs spot on! It does make sense, but it’s not exciting! The line up you have chosen is far better than the real line up! Chemical Brothers and Kneecap would have got the place going crazy!
And another thing, I've heard most of the bands you discuss, truth is - they don't have the songs, if they had them they'd be more succesful IMO - why have Osais et al had such longeivty? having the songs, having the tunes, a great look, attitude etc will only take you so far - you can't become legends without the songs and that's what missing.
@@zimri-lim8254 Sam Fender - nailed on to headline Glastonbury Fontaines DC - 3 outdoor 50k plus show sold out next year after a sold out tour this year Idles - 2 massive homecoming shows next year, after a sold out uk tour and other stage glasto slot I think the younger generation disagrees on the quality of the tunes ;) But it’s funny because everything else you say, I do agree with 😂🙏
When I think of the songs that modern bands have released (last 10 - 15 years)...I honestly could not name one song that could be described as culturally significant. There have been some good songs and artists pop up...but its been a cultural dessert musically for the most part. Ashcroft and Co on the other hand have written some of the biggest, original, deepest and intellectually meaningful material in musical history, despite existing at a time when the bar was much higher. When you think of the cultural stamp their songs have made compared to popular artists of recent years...sorry they clearly just do not compare at all. What cultural anthems can you name that survived the test of time from the top modern UK indie bands like Catfish And The Bottlemen....and even bands like Blossoms etc?...I honestly could not name one.
@@downtime-p8u but I mean this respectfully, how much modern music have you listened to over the last 15 years? Because ‘rock’ has become way less mainstream, we don’t hear it on the radio anymore, but there are brilliant successful bands out there, even ones Noel and Liam themselves have championed! I agree with what you have said about Ashcroft 100% but has he done anything significant since urban hymns? I just don’t find him as a support interesting, and I’m a huge fan! I personally do not agree with that statement regarding Cast though, there are good band, but if you want to stick with the ‘older’ vibe, I think there’s 100 more significant ‘better’ bands that would be better in that slot (Manics/primal scream/prodigy/pulp) Catfish and the bottlemen are rubbish! But that’s the mainstream stuff you hear on the radio! Projects like Sam Fender, Fontaine DC, Idles and so many more would smash it! Thank you for your comment mate I appreciate it a well written response! :D
@@52ginjaninja totally agree mate, I honestly think he’s going to headline Glastonbury, and that is why he’s not there - but such a missed opportunity, and such a shame!
Ok, Joy Division came from nowhere, ditto The Smiths, Stone Roses, Oasis - if the great bands you say still exist, where are they? whey aren't they good enough to come from nowhere and explode and change music? None of these bands needed a leg up, they were just great. Truth is, there's been nothing since the Arctic Monkeys, Libs and The Strokes. It's undeniable really. If current bands were good enough they'd cut through, but they don't, I realise that corporatisation of music has made it more difficult for bands (the labels just want media plaible avatars but still - as Noel said say this, wear this sing this and shut up)), and that people like Ian Dury or the Mondays would never get signed today - but come on...
@@zimri-lim8254 they exist mate!!! There just not getting the press! And are you looking for new music in the way you did when you was younger? Because for me work and bloody life gets in the way! When I was a kid I could search everything out and each that up! Every band you listed there (and I adore them) supported legends from the past! (Check out my libs video from last week 🤣) honestly mate check out the bands I have said in the video! There all inspired by every band you have stated! For me your final point hits the nail on the head No label is taking a gamble on an epileptic Ian Curtis, Dury, a political nightmare in Morrissey - Ian Brown who can’t sing a note - LG who would fight anyone! It’s the labels fault! Not the bands! There not aloud an attitude now a days!!
Those great bands you mentioned came through at a time when rock music was its peak popularity. It’s nearly an impossible task nowadays for a guitar band to get massive. Artic monkeys were the last and they were nearly 20 years ago now. The music landscape has changed. Great bands still exist but more under the surface
let's be honest Britpop bands barring a few acts were very ropey. Cast and Ashcroft strictly B tier bands, but not quite Seahorses, OCS, Kula shaker level crap. Anyway if you were a young upcoming group with an image would you want to support dad-rock Oasis? In my day, the indie groups of the 80's I liked would have run a mile from supporting the likes of the Stones. too terminally unhip/
@@casperbacon1423 haha! Love the call outs of OCS, Seahorses and Kula! But the first 2 points you’ve made there, I totally agree with! I know what you mean, but oasis themselves supported U2, REM, The Stones and I believe The Who! I think a lot of these modern bands was inspired by Oasis, and would be more than happy to play stadiums and gain new fans! But I definitely know what you mean, supporting Oasis could be seen as ‘uncool’!
@@louisdillon5736 so true! Who needs more than 1.5 good albums when you’ve got that debut! And I actually like Second Coming more than most! Thanks so much mate I appreciate that a lot! :D 🙏
It's not your era. Right imagine you had a band as big as Oasis are/were, in 20 years, when you're in your 40s and 50s - clue there won't be one. Who would you get to support your mythical legendary band? - You'd stick on bands from that era. I get what you're saying, but the tour isn't about your generation it's about ours. Sorry but that's how it is....current gen just doesn't have the bands that will ever reach the heights of Oasis, Blur, Pulp, Radio head - other brit poppers, Nirvana, Metallica, G n R etc. Genuinely interested in your thoughts on this? Bands of that magnitude just don't exist any more, so when you're doing a "legends" tour from a band from 4 decades ago - why put Sam Fender on? Ok, you could put the The Jam, The Smiths, Stone Roses, Oasis and draw a clear thru line through those bands - a journey, I know because travelled it - you could not do that today, do you see what I'm getting at? There are no contemparies of Oasis, there's no bands today who could stand up ....and that's a terrible state of affairs in the Taylorfication of music, but it is what is is.
@@zimri-lim8254 really appreciate the comment mate! So my answer is just from my perspective! I’m 30, so it’s not my era, I was born the year DM came out, but I still saw Oasis in 2009, have loved them for over 20 years, have obsessed over British music and have obsessed over music in general! So you’re right it’s not my era, but I also don’t feel I’m in the ‘younger’ era who truly never experienced Oasis! So Oasis on there come up supported lots of legends and that’s how they cut there teeth, obviously the tunes are the most important thing, but supporting The Stones, REM, The Who and tons more helped bring Oasis into an older generations mind, and that older generation then, would have been saying EXACTLY what you have just said about Oasis, there’s tons of quotes of The Beatles and other ‘legends’ from that time shitting on Oasis, but they got given a chance, and they proved themselves! So I understand and agree a lot about what you have said, but one thing I don’t agree with is ‘but the tour isn't about your generation it's about ours. Sorry but that's how it is’ Not even The Gallaghers believe that mate, this tour is 50% about your generation being able to relive those nostalgia years, and you guys deserve that! But 50% of this is opening Oasis up to a new generation, I really think older fans are going to be surprised with the audience age there. I’ve seen them solo 10+ times, it will be a young audience, so I disagree with that point mate! Noel has said himself this is for the kids that never got the chance to see Oasis! They have just as much as right to enjoy themselves and experience that as you guys did, in the peak years! Why do you think that the rock bands these days will reach those heights? I agree with that point but I don’t think it’s a quality issue at all, there truly are outstanding rock bands that have come around in the last 10/15 years, they just don’t get the mainstream press that rock music from the past has! But regardless of our opinion on them, Sam fender, 1975, Fontaines dc and many more will be doing Glastonbury headline slots and stadiums soon, I think that’s pretty good going! I love every single band you have said there, oasis, Radiohead and nirvana could be my top 3 ever, but we can look at a 30 year career and the those incredible moments they have had - this new crop haven’t had that chance yet! I 1000% understand why they have chosen Ashcroft (not so much Cast) but I really wish they had given the chance for a younger band to be heard by the older gen (not meant to sound rude! Haha) Totally get what your getting at mate, and I agree with a lot of what you are saying, I just wish these new bands had the chance Oasis got, too support legends from the past! The Jam, The Smiths, Stone Roses and Oasis are very different time frames though! That’s a 30 year period for 4 bands to come up - ask me in 30 years, I’ll name you 4 new legends! Appreciate the comment brother :) I tried to answer every point 🤣
@@TheGigNerd Thank you - And your're right, about what I said "it's just for my age group" - or words to that effect. You are quite right. Oasis have meant as much to people in their 30s, as they meant to old fuckers from the 90s like me. That's the magic you cannot contain. I hate "gatekeeping" and that wasn't my intent. I'll add some thougts over the weekend. And thank you for a considered, well thought out response and I do remember what it's like to be young and wanting to champion your own bands. I was there once. : )
They had so many choices: Ocean Colour Scene, Ian Brown, Kasabian, Pastel, Ride, Johnny Marr, The Prodigy, The WAEVE etc. I do think that Richard Ashcroft and Cast are good picks, but considering how big the shows are gonna be, they wasted so many good choices
@@Whatserusername352 some amazing suggestions you have listed here! I think every single band you have said (except maybe OCS) I would rather have than Ashcroft and Cast! And I agree 100%! There be great, I just think there was better shouts!
Msybe the rest would have wanted more £££ marr makes pmenty already although soneone needs to play the SS solo because noel can't,the only one out of them that in my opinion would hsve jumped at it is kasabian but since tom has left they arnt the same band imo. Also just because those coupme have been annoucced so far i still think there will be a couple of other "new" bands the doors ooen early i can definitely still see pastel playing due to them been at knebworth. Its ridiculous how pastel aren't bigger in the past they'd have been massive
@@unusedsub3003 totally different genres though?! 🤣 Also google tells me that yes, ub40 outsold Oasis (which I am surprised about!) but it’s very close What I will say is UB40 is headlining my local festival to 2000 people next year - Oasis have sold out every stadium worldwide - I don’t think there success is comparable anymore! I do love Red red wine though 🤣
Tottaly Agree...Oasis represented 90's rock at the highest level, like many bands (Suede, Primal Scream, Radiohead as many others...) As well as the more of strand electronic Trip Hop aspect
Thank you so much for all the comments guys! I really appreciate it! Keep letting me know if you agree or disagree on the Oasis supports acts!
Soundtrack of our lives should open
I see this as a huge win for all the Dads out there, probably the people who are paying for the tickets in the first place!
@@bellycuda haha! great point 🤣
The MUMS and Dads - Oasis gigs in the 90's was a great mix of male and female, not so much later on. The later gigs post 2000 had so many young fans.
There's 2 points to consider; 1 Oasis have promoted and had modern bands as support across multiple of their tours, and 2. this tour is a reunion, it's about Oasis and the focus is alllllll on Oasis, any modern band would have been lost at sea on that bill
@@paulanthonytully I can somewhat agree with this! We are all really only going for Oasis! Regardless of the support!
I completely agree. I'm disappointed. Ashcroft makes sense a bit, I guess. But a Cast-Ashcroft 1-2 bores me just thinking about it. I would have liked to have seen 2 'legacy' acts and couple of newer acts.
Dream line up would have been:
Manics
Chemical Brothers
Big Special
Any one of: Kneecap/King Hannah/Yard Act/Dry Cleaning
@@MassiveCatLittleLegs spot on! It does make sense, but it’s not exciting!
The line up you have chosen is far better than the real line up!
Chemical Brothers and Kneecap would have got the place going crazy!
And another thing, I've heard most of the bands you discuss, truth is - they don't have the songs, if they had them they'd be more succesful IMO - why have Osais et al had such longeivty? having the songs, having the tunes, a great look, attitude etc will only take you so far - you can't become legends without the songs and that's what missing.
@@zimri-lim8254 Sam Fender - nailed on to headline Glastonbury
Fontaines DC - 3 outdoor 50k plus show sold out next year after a sold out tour this year
Idles - 2 massive homecoming shows next year, after a sold out uk tour and other stage glasto slot
I think the younger generation disagrees on the quality of the tunes ;)
But it’s funny because everything else you say, I do agree with 😂🙏
When I think of the songs that modern bands have released (last 10 - 15 years)...I honestly could not name one song that could be described as culturally significant. There have been some good songs and artists pop up...but its been a cultural dessert musically for the most part. Ashcroft and Co on the other hand have written some of the biggest, original, deepest and intellectually meaningful material in musical history, despite existing at a time when the bar was much higher. When you think of the cultural stamp their songs have made compared to popular artists of recent years...sorry they clearly just do not compare at all. What cultural anthems can you name that survived the test of time from the top modern UK indie bands like Catfish And The Bottlemen....and even bands like Blossoms etc?...I honestly could not name one.
@@downtime-p8u but I mean this respectfully, how much modern music have you listened to over the last 15 years? Because ‘rock’ has become way less mainstream, we don’t hear it on the radio anymore, but there are brilliant successful bands out there, even ones Noel and Liam themselves have championed!
I agree with what you have said about Ashcroft 100% but has he done anything significant since urban hymns? I just don’t find him as a support interesting, and I’m a huge fan!
I personally do not agree with that statement regarding Cast though, there are good band, but if you want to stick with the ‘older’ vibe, I think there’s 100 more significant ‘better’ bands that would be better in that slot (Manics/primal scream/prodigy/pulp)
Catfish and the bottlemen are rubbish! But that’s the mainstream stuff you hear on the radio! Projects like Sam Fender, Fontaine DC, Idles and so many more would smash it!
Thank you for your comment mate I appreciate it a well written response! :D
Sam Fender is such an obvious choice. What a missed opportunity.
@@52ginjaninja totally agree mate, I honestly think he’s going to headline Glastonbury, and that is why he’s not there - but such a missed opportunity, and such a shame!
dO YOU THINK PEOPLE FROM THE 90S WANT TO SEE sAM fENDER?
True, as a 41 year old who grew up in the 90's, Sam fender is amazing! Hypersonic missile is just insane! And what a voice! @@TheGigNerd
@@zimri-lim8254 no. But I think people from the 90s need to learn more about Sam Fender!!!
@@greenblue6935 so true! Fender is absolutely amazing, so real, so raw, so talented! Have you heard his new song? He’s done it again!!! :D
Ok, Joy Division came from nowhere, ditto The Smiths, Stone Roses, Oasis - if the great bands you say still exist, where are they? whey aren't they good enough to come from nowhere and explode and change music? None of these bands needed a leg up, they were just great. Truth is, there's been nothing since the Arctic Monkeys, Libs and The Strokes. It's undeniable really. If current bands were good enough they'd cut through, but they don't, I realise that corporatisation of music has made it more difficult for bands (the labels just want media plaible avatars but still - as Noel said say this, wear this sing this and shut up)), and that people like Ian Dury or the Mondays would never get signed today - but come on...
@@zimri-lim8254 they exist mate!!! There just not getting the press!
And are you looking for new music in the way you did when you was younger? Because for me work and bloody life gets in the way! When I was a kid I could search everything out and each that up!
Every band you listed there (and I adore them) supported legends from the past!
(Check out my libs video from last week 🤣) honestly mate check out the bands I have said in the video! There all inspired by every band you have stated!
For me your final point hits the nail on the head
No label is taking a gamble on an epileptic Ian Curtis, Dury, a political nightmare in Morrissey - Ian Brown who can’t sing a note - LG who would fight anyone! It’s the labels fault! Not the bands! There not aloud an attitude now a days!!
Those great bands you mentioned came through at a time when rock music was its peak popularity. It’s nearly an impossible task nowadays for a guitar band to get massive. Artic monkeys were the last and they were nearly 20 years ago now. The music landscape has changed. Great bands still exist but more under the surface
@ couldn’t agree more!
@ spot on!
let's be honest Britpop bands barring a few acts were very ropey. Cast and Ashcroft strictly B tier bands, but not quite Seahorses, OCS, Kula shaker level crap. Anyway if you were a young upcoming group with an image would you want to support dad-rock Oasis? In my day, the indie groups of the 80's I liked would have run a mile from supporting the likes of the Stones. too terminally unhip/
@@casperbacon1423 haha! Love the call outs of OCS, Seahorses and Kula! But the first 2 points you’ve made there, I totally agree with!
I know what you mean, but oasis themselves supported U2, REM, The Stones and I believe The Who! I think a lot of these modern bands was inspired by Oasis, and would be more than happy to play stadiums and gain new fans!
But I definitely know what you mean, supporting Oasis could be seen as ‘uncool’!
Think I read somewhere the stone roses turned down supporting the rolling stones. Ian Brown said "They should be opening for us!"
@ 😂😂😂 The Stone Roses only made 1.5 good albums! 😂
@@TheGigNerd Yeah but as far as debut albums go, there's not many ahead of there's . Anyways, you've got a new sub 👊
@@louisdillon5736 so true! Who needs more than 1.5 good albums when you’ve got that debut!
And I actually like Second Coming more than most!
Thanks so much mate I appreciate that a lot! :D 🙏
It's not your era. Right imagine you had a band as big as Oasis are/were, in 20 years, when you're in your 40s and 50s - clue there won't be one. Who would you get to support your mythical legendary band? - You'd stick on bands from that era. I get what you're saying, but the tour isn't about your generation it's about ours. Sorry but that's how it is....current gen just doesn't have the bands that will ever reach the heights of Oasis, Blur, Pulp, Radio head - other brit poppers, Nirvana, Metallica, G n R etc. Genuinely interested in your thoughts on this? Bands of that magnitude just don't exist any more, so when you're doing a "legends" tour from a band from 4 decades ago - why put Sam Fender on?
Ok, you could put the The Jam, The Smiths, Stone Roses, Oasis and draw a clear thru line through those bands - a journey, I know because travelled it - you could not do that today, do you see what I'm getting at? There are no contemparies of Oasis, there's no bands today who could stand up ....and that's a terrible state of affairs in the Taylorfication of music, but it is what is is.
@@zimri-lim8254 really appreciate the comment mate!
So my answer is just from my perspective!
I’m 30, so it’s not my era, I was born the year DM came out, but I still saw Oasis in 2009, have loved them for over 20 years, have obsessed over British music and have obsessed over music in general! So you’re right it’s not my era, but I also don’t feel I’m in the ‘younger’ era who truly never experienced Oasis!
So Oasis on there come up supported lots of legends and that’s how they cut there teeth, obviously the tunes are the most important thing, but supporting The Stones, REM, The Who and tons more helped bring Oasis into an older generations mind, and that older generation then, would have been saying EXACTLY what you have just said about Oasis, there’s tons of quotes of The Beatles and other ‘legends’ from that time shitting on Oasis, but they got given a chance, and they proved themselves!
So I understand and agree a lot about what you have said, but one thing I don’t agree with is
‘but the tour isn't about your generation it's about ours.
Sorry but that's how it is’
Not even The Gallaghers believe that mate, this tour is 50% about your generation being able to relive those nostalgia years, and you guys deserve that!
But 50% of this is opening Oasis up to a new generation, I really think older fans are going to be surprised with the audience age there. I’ve seen them solo 10+ times, it will be a young audience, so I disagree with that point mate! Noel has said himself this is for the kids that never got the chance to see Oasis!
They have just as much as right to enjoy themselves and experience that as you guys did, in the peak years!
Why do you think that the rock bands these days will reach those heights? I agree with that point but I don’t think it’s a quality issue at all, there truly are outstanding rock bands that have come around in the last 10/15 years, they just don’t get the mainstream press that rock music from the past has! But regardless of our opinion on them, Sam fender, 1975, Fontaines dc and many more will be doing Glastonbury headline slots and stadiums soon, I think that’s pretty good going!
I love every single band you have said there, oasis, Radiohead and nirvana could be my top 3 ever, but we can look at a 30 year career and the those incredible moments they have had - this new crop haven’t had that chance yet!
I 1000% understand why they have chosen Ashcroft (not so much Cast) but I really wish they had given the chance for a younger band to be heard by the older gen (not meant to sound rude! Haha)
Totally get what your getting at mate, and I agree with a lot of what you are saying, I just wish these new bands had the chance Oasis got, too support legends from the past!
The Jam, The Smiths, Stone Roses and Oasis are very different time frames though! That’s a 30 year period for 4 bands to come up - ask me in 30 years, I’ll name you 4 new legends!
Appreciate the comment brother :) I tried to answer every point 🤣
@@TheGigNerd Thank you - And your're right, about what I said "it's just for my age group" - or words to that effect. You are quite right. Oasis have meant as much to people in their 30s, as they meant to old fuckers from the 90s like me. That's the magic you cannot contain. I hate "gatekeeping" and that wasn't my intent. I'll add some thougts over the weekend. And thank you for a considered, well thought out response and I do remember what it's like to be young and wanting to champion your own bands. I was there once. : )
They had so many choices: Ocean Colour Scene, Ian Brown, Kasabian, Pastel, Ride, Johnny Marr, The Prodigy, The WAEVE etc. I do think that Richard Ashcroft and Cast are good picks, but considering how big the shows are gonna be, they wasted so many good choices
@@Whatserusername352 some amazing suggestions you have listed here! I think every single band you have said (except maybe OCS) I would rather have than Ashcroft and Cast!
And I agree 100%! There be great, I just think there was better shouts!
Msybe the rest would have wanted more £££ marr makes pmenty already although soneone needs to play the SS solo because noel can't,the only one out of them that in my opinion would hsve jumped at it is kasabian but since tom has left they arnt the same band imo.
Also just because those coupme have been annoucced so far i still think there will be a couple of other "new" bands the doors ooen early i can definitely still see pastel playing due to them been at knebworth.
Its ridiculous how pastel aren't bigger in the past they'd have been massive
Johnny will be on stage at times, as will Weller.
Oasis are rubbish though.... why get someone to outshine them?
@@AndrewisaLoser-bh4xe 🤣🤣🤣
OASIS are overhyped. UB40 sold *a* *lot* more records.
@@unusedsub3003 totally different genres though?! 🤣
Also google tells me that yes, ub40 outsold Oasis (which I am surprised about!) but it’s very close
What I will say is UB40 is headlining my local festival to 2000 people next year - Oasis have sold out every stadium worldwide - I don’t think there success is comparable anymore!
I do love Red red wine though 🤣
LMAO
@@zimri-lim8254 we 1000% agree at the Lmao here! Ahhahaha
Oasis is rubbish, britpop was the worst part of the 90s
@@janarkolemees what music was you into in the 90’s mate? I love all music but I do think Oasis somewhat defined the 90s!
Couldn’t agree more
@@dopa538 with me or the original commenter? 🤣
Tottaly Agree...Oasis represented 90's rock at the highest level, like many bands (Suede, Primal Scream, Radiohead as many others...) As well as the more of strand electronic Trip Hop aspect
Manic Street Preachers... what a band !