'We cannot accept this' - RTÉ Panel discuss Stephen Kenny's future

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  • Опубліковано 9 вер 2023
  • Following defeat to the Netherlands and with Euro 2024 qualification looking less and less likely, Stephen Kelly, Didi Hamann and Richie Sadlier discuss Republic of Ireland manager Stephen Kenny's hopes of keeping his job beyond this campaign.
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  • @PatrickStefan
    @PatrickStefan 11 місяців тому +26

    Was at the game. They were so much more comfortable than us. Get real! The expectation is ridiculous

    • @Flecky
      @Flecky 11 місяців тому +2

      and you got a free pen

    • @gridone769
      @gridone769 11 місяців тому +1

      I agree irish fans put our standards too high, but we should be performing better than we have.

    • @belfastbhoy5679
      @belfastbhoy5679 10 місяців тому

      I know mate, losing to Luxembourg and Greece etc is exactly what we should expect.
      It's fans like you who are happy to accept this absolute shite, who allow it to continue, fuckin eejit

    • @derekkelly9286
      @derekkelly9286 10 місяців тому

      Don't aggre cheers

    • @seanbonella
      @seanbonella 24 дні тому

      Stephen Kenny syndrome you have

  • @diegolove173
    @diegolove173 11 місяців тому +10

    Frenchman here you guys have something good coming for real ! I'm really impress with your cb Collins what a player good in the air , strong

    • @jamescook4116
      @jamescook4116 11 місяців тому +2

      Thanks. We have a handful of good players. That is it. Outside of Collins and Ferguson we are bereft of genuine talent.

    • @diegolove173
      @diegolove173 11 місяців тому

      @@jamescook4116 I think that group was too much for your young players having said that I strongly believe that you can qualify for the world cup

    • @kevinmartin5489
      @kevinmartin5489 10 місяців тому

      If we can get some premiership level players coming into the midfield positions, your right.

  • @kenoneill8783
    @kenoneill8783 11 місяців тому +52

    Didi to manage Ireland I say, he was brilliant tonight, sounded more passionate than any Irishman could be in his support for us.

    • @johnmc3862
      @johnmc3862 11 місяців тому +3

      It’s just the accent.

    • @CrashExhibition
      @CrashExhibition 11 місяців тому +14

      I love that he refers to Ireland as We :) ❤

    • @alexandermoonen6170
      @alexandermoonen6170 11 місяців тому +7

      Didi is the best person who you could have in your panel and these two,they’re just clowns,you know Stephen and Richie, I still don’t know how Richie Sadlier is still in the job as a panelist.

    • @niallglennon83
      @niallglennon83 11 місяців тому

      @@CrashExhibition hes paraphrasing

    • @1Jameskelly
      @1Jameskelly 11 місяців тому +1

      😂😂Yeah it's EASY from a studio armchair

  • @lage1984
    @lage1984 11 місяців тому +64

    Kenny is lucky he managed in this era because Dunphy, Giles and Brady would have been too honest for him

    • @jmo8934
      @jmo8934 11 місяців тому +14

      Lol. Dunphy thinks he’s doing a great job and would give him a new contract because ‘he’s changed the style of play’. Dunphy never knew much about football and was always mostly concerned with promoting himself.

    • @lage1984
      @lage1984 11 місяців тому +4

      @@jmo8934 dunphy would have to face reality at some point

    • @Eoin-gg9tz
      @Eoin-gg9tz 11 місяців тому +8

      Dunphy and giles are Kenny in and have backed him up to this point on their podcast

    • @lage1984
      @lage1984 11 місяців тому

      @@Eoin-gg9tz do they have good reason because I can't see any?

    • @dcmify
      @dcmify 11 місяців тому

      You can blame the manager til the cows come home. This lies at the feet of the FAI. During the champagne years, they failed to develop any kind of youth development program. They failed to get behind the LOI. Actually scratch that. They didn't even try.

  • @johnadams20132013
    @johnadams20132013 11 місяців тому +35

    Kenny did all he can imo did want him to do well. results don't lie .

    • @gypsycob1351
      @gypsycob1351 11 місяців тому +5

      he has to go we love him for his work in Ireland but we need a fresh start

    • @johnmc3862
      @johnmc3862 11 місяців тому +9

      All he could was nowhere good enough, he should have been let go long ago. Look how far wales got with a bang average squad of players.

    • @paddypenman2682
      @paddypenman2682 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@johnmc3862I'm pretty sure Gareth Bale isn't "average", amazing what can be done with a group of average players though when you have even one very good/world class player in the team, it inspires the rest of the squad to out perform on a consistent basis. A bit like we were 20 years ago with Keano leading the charge.

    • @alwayslaughing6826
      @alwayslaughing6826 11 місяців тому +2

      What does people expect with this team… seriously we’ve always been shite a football this past 20 years come out will yas…

    • @johnmc3862
      @johnmc3862 11 місяців тому

      @@paddypenman2682 We had more than Keano back then. Bale was the only decent player that had.

  • @seanomahony-yl9ld
    @seanomahony-yl9ld 11 місяців тому +6

    Sadler should take over to see how good he is at it. Nothing will change under new management we just don’t have the players.

    • @barryb90
      @barryb90 10 місяців тому +1

      Nah, that's a pathetic excuse. We've lost and bottled leads against teams with far lower calibre of players.

    • @ThisIsMyRodrick
      @ThisIsMyRodrick 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@barryb90we actually have a good team but Kenny's tactics are horrible. We can good football, quick counter attack would be ideal

    • @barryb90
      @barryb90 10 місяців тому

      @@ThisIsMyRodrick I wouldn't say we're great and to Kenny's credit he's brought through a whole young team, first time since the mid 90s. Unfortunately we're going to get a crap replacement like Neil Lennon. We aren't going anywhere fast.

    • @ThisIsMyRodrick
      @ThisIsMyRodrick 10 місяців тому

      @@barryb90 this isn't the same FAI. That's not gonna happen. They will be careful and plan it out. At least Lennon would wanna play counter attack and some idea what's he doing. Even if it's a bad appointment overall, if they did get Lennon.

  • @nigefal
    @nigefal 11 місяців тому +24

    The lads are all speaking honestly and openly, which is refreshing. They have no agendas and actually feel sorry for Kenny.

    • @Slim-MMA
      @Slim-MMA 11 місяців тому +4

      Imagine feeling sorry for him. He’s incompetent and to make it worse he shows almost no emotion.

    • @TOFB
      @TOFB 10 місяців тому

      No agendas? Come off it. 😂

  • @Woof45
    @Woof45 11 місяців тому +12

    We are a football backwater, decades behind most countries in playing style. Kenny trying to change that, I am happy to wait ten twenty years if football in this country is played in the correct manner.

    • @_alienblood
      @_alienblood 10 місяців тому +1

      I really haven't seen us turned into a passing style team under kenny on occasion we could put a few good moved together mainy against lower teams most of the time it was passing with the back 3 or 4 players we played some lovely football under Mc Carthy and O Neill also but they knew are our best strengths were always our physical attributes lost totally in the kenny era

  • @gerardodwyer5908
    @gerardodwyer5908 11 місяців тому +35

    The panel is totally right, it's simply extraordinary an Irish team mainly composed of lower league club players in England can't beat a Dutch side with guys playing for Europe's lesding clubs.

    • @marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158
      @marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158 11 місяців тому +7

      Exactly, herein lies the problem, their's a reason why some of them are playing for Stoke, Preston (ffs) Middlesborough and a reason why our last 2 opponents play for Bayern, Liverpool, Real Madrid, PSG, Juventus, Barcelona et al

    • @Cloud007.
      @Cloud007. 11 місяців тому +5

      They're not just talking about the Dutch game ffs. In context of 3years at the helm, guy has to go.

    • @dagzey
      @dagzey 11 місяців тому +1

      i think u missed the point,,its not loosing to the likes of france or holland that there on about its about loosing to teams ranked much lower thats the problem,,and theres been no improvment what so ever over the last 3 years,the honest truth is we have gotten worse since kennys appointment and its time for him to go hes had more than enought time with this team..

    • @marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158
      @marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158 11 місяців тому +3

      @@dagzey You could appoint Pep or Ancelloti, no one is going to get a tune out of those players, they simply lack the ability. Next manager will be faced with the same issues, draws, losses and bad luck ahoy brigade....until we start producing players that compete at the highest level, with the major clubs Ireland are not gracing a major tournament anytime soon, mark my words

    • @dagzey
      @dagzey 11 місяців тому +1

      @@marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158 well that's just a completey ridiculous statement..are u trying to tell me that Ireland wouldn't have more points from the last 2 campaigns if they had pep or ancelloti managing them???

  • @jimcanty2331
    @jimcanty2331 11 місяців тому +18

    Didi talking facts

    • @kenoneill8783
      @kenoneill8783 11 місяців тому

      Didi was inspirational, why can't he throw his hat in the ring to manage us?

    • @nigefal
      @nigefal 11 місяців тому

      @@kenoneill8783 Not a bad call, but I think he is on record of saying that management was not for him. His last gig was Stockport County in the Conference League in 2011. Roy Keane would be my no1 pick.

    • @TOFB
      @TOFB 10 місяців тому

      He hasn’t a clue.

    • @SlavaBanderastan
      @SlavaBanderastan 10 місяців тому +1

      He wouldn't be able to bet

  • @johncambridge7339
    @johncambridge7339 11 місяців тому +7

    Steven has done alot of the heavy lifting my bringing though the young players but its time to start a conversation about new manager

    • @andrewclavin7447
      @andrewclavin7447 11 місяців тому +1

      He still plays Duffy..mcclean..doherty
      He should have just played the kids and he would have got more support..he did it wishy washy

  • @anelka10
    @anelka10 11 місяців тому +7

    Bring back the old boys - Dunphy, Brady and Giles

    • @johnmc3862
      @johnmc3862 11 місяців тому +1

      C’mon lad, they have a combined age of 200.

    • @nigefal
      @nigefal 11 місяців тому +3

      As a management team?
      Giles - doesn't believe in tactics
      Dunphy - wants football played the 'right way' and has rarely got a football prediction right in his life
      Brady - failed at Brighton and Celtic
      it would make a funny behind the scenes documentary.

  • @Johno731
    @Johno731 10 місяців тому +7

    I remember Roddy Collins saying about Kenny whilst playing against him in LOI he could always tactically outsmart him because he'd refuse change formations mid game or do it too late.

  • @dingleberryridesagain3606
    @dingleberryridesagain3606 11 місяців тому +10

    Bring back Bertie Ahern as team manager, he has all the required background, great man for the horsis, financial genius, sporting legend in the pubs in Drumcondra,

  • @gordonmcabney9609
    @gordonmcabney9609 11 місяців тому +4

    Shane Duffy well there's a start 🤣🤣🤣

  • @conchronic
    @conchronic 11 місяців тому +31

    Finally over, the Kenny era it started badly and ended badly with a bad middle.

    • @SlavaBanderastan
      @SlavaBanderastan 10 місяців тому

      😂 Yeah. Let's go back to dinosaur soccer. The match starts badly. Ends badly and is a fuckin embarrassment all the game through

    • @conchronic
      @conchronic 10 місяців тому

      @@SlavaBanderastan what kind of football has Kenny offered flatter to deceive loser football.

    • @SlavaBanderastan
      @SlavaBanderastan 10 місяців тому +1

      @@conchronic we hold the record in the euros for no points, no goals and most conceded. So loser football it is

    • @conchronic
      @conchronic 10 місяців тому

      @@SlavaBanderastan what euros we have been to 3 , zero under Kenny s poser loser football.

  • @Razormiller
    @Razormiller 11 місяців тому +5

    I see people saying things like "We have to play to our strengths(ie go direct). That may not be pretty" and "I just want the team to win. I dont care how we win". 100% disagree. IMO We should absolutely care how we play. We need to continue to build a football philosophy/culture in the country. SK tried, & failed so we move on to another manager with a similar philosophy and keep trying.
    Did people really believe it was a one manager fix?? That it would be that easy???? Of course not. We had 20+yrs of hoofball. The game died here under that. The reason our squad is the worst one we have ever had is coz of decades of terrible football/negative coaching from yth team up to national team. Lets give passing football a bit longer then SKs reign. In the long run itll pay off for the game here. Hoofball wont.

    • @fruitcakereaper6014
      @fruitcakereaper6014 10 місяців тому +1

      We arent Spain and we never are going to be even with all the training camps in the world here. The reality is noone in ireland old or young knows that style to change the footballing culture. Even if they did know u'd be waiting 20 yrs to see them string a couple of fancy passes together. Lets stick to what we used to be good at and were known for. Lets pass that knowledge and culture on by getting the right people to teach the u16's etc. Get some old premiership players to show this useless bunch how to defend for a start, then we can worry about get fancy.

    • @Razormiller
      @Razormiller 10 місяців тому +1

      @@fruitcakereaper6014 What a negative outlook.. Croatia arent Spain either but theyve built a footballing philosophy. Any country can do it if you have the ambition.
      I firmly believe we can produce top quality footballers here if we encourage them to enjoy playing the game, to pass, to dribble etc. Theres loads of talent among our kids. We are just missing out on it as they arent taking up the game. If we market the game much better to the next generation then we will produce better footballers.
      This island has produced plenty of great footballers b4. The only reason we have stopped over the last 20yrs or so is coz we have let the game die here via long ball football.
      GAA and rugby have moved ahead of football when it comes to hoovering up young talent. The whole set up needs a revamp. It seems to be happening now with youth football which is great. SK tried it with the international team(unfortunately he inherited the worst squad ever tho.... tks to 20yrs of hoofball).. It didnt work for SK but that doesnt mean we give up... AFTER JUST 3yrs !!..
      We need to engrain a passing, technical football culture into our country. If it takes 20yrs to see the progress of that then itll be 20yrs well spent. Unlike the 20yrs of hoofball under Trap, ONeill and McCarthy where the game literally died here.

  • @jordancurley995
    @jordancurley995 11 місяців тому +3

    I don't understand why the FAI is escaping blame the manager is terrible yes but it's upstairs that put him incharge the whole thing is a complete mess

  • @stevecostello4278
    @stevecostello4278 11 місяців тому +5

    You could put Klopp or Pep in charge and it would not make a difference. They are a good, honest bunch of players doing their best but their best is simply not enough. I think Kenny's idea of passing football is laudable but our lot can't do it. I dunno, maybe stick 5 along the back and live off counter attacks?

    • @kevinmartin5489
      @kevinmartin5489 10 місяців тому

      Exactly, nail on the head that is consistently ignored.

    • @malsmith1618
      @malsmith1618 10 місяців тому

      😂😂 bs so pep or Klopp couldn’t get results against Luxembourg Finland Azerbaijan and the rest

    • @malsmith1618
      @malsmith1618 10 місяців тому

      @@kevinmartin5489what is consistently ignored that we are inferior and shouldn’t be winning games but what’s the excuses for not beating the inferior teams

    • @stevecostello4278
      @stevecostello4278 10 місяців тому +1

      @@malsmith1618 not with this lot.

  • @James-ih4gz
    @James-ih4gz 11 місяців тому +9

    I do think Stephen Kenny is low standard manager I think cause he is a league of Ireland I think if he was premier league manager he would been gone by now. I think they have been too nice to him and that

    • @kevinmartin5489
      @kevinmartin5489 10 місяців тому

      For a start he'd have premiership players in the premier league, not what the Irish team currently has.

  • @tomgreen2737
    @tomgreen2737 11 місяців тому +21

    Total humiliation. But don't look at it like that. Look at it as the end of Kenny! that's the best thing that has happened our team in years.

    • @LeMerch
      @LeMerch 11 місяців тому +8

      No it’s not. We rarely qualify for anything and played HOOFBALL since the 80s. Kenny took the blow, but he’s changed how we play. Maybe a better manager will have to structure us differently.

    • @videovibes56
      @videovibes56 11 місяців тому +6

      Ireland was once a highly respected team, boasting a 6th-place world ranking and a reputation for consistently defeating top-tier opponents. We approached every match without fear and were known for our formidable resilience. Our performance remained strong until the mid-2000s when a significant decline set in. Kenny has since made remarkable improvements to the team; just four years ago, our ability to even pass the ball was in doubt. Nonetheless, Ireland is a nation with a rich sporting tradition. Our rugby team holds the top spot in the world rankings, and we have world-class boxers, golfers, and more. There is no reason we can't set our sights on achieving the highest standards in football as well. Personally I believe loyalty to players is the cardinal sin in sports. Players should be dropped on a moments notice if they are not on form. Ultimately our players do not have a winning mindset, they rarely experienced winning, and winning becomes habit, as does losing. This team is caught in that mindset. They fear success as its new territory for them . Kenny has done a decent job and has built a team that at least can compete, we are just too inexperienced at winning and this won't change. @@LeMerch

    • @grassrootsfootball225
      @grassrootsfootball225 11 місяців тому

      and what, revert back to type... morons all over this thread man

    • @grassrootsfootball225
      @grassrootsfootball225 11 місяців тому +2

      @@videovibes56 ultimately football is the 3rd most popular sport on the island and we are now selecting from a pool of players at the bottom end of the PL and the leagues below. The globalisation of the PL is a massive factor as our players are getting less of a chance. We should look to develop our own players for a specific system and maybe look to utilise the european leagues more where they can get more football that is still of a decent standard

    • @alwayslaughing6826
      @alwayslaughing6826 11 місяців тому +3

      What’s he meant to do with championship players seriously…. Except Ferguson and Colman that’s prem standards… most of the Irish team don’t even have a Irish passport.., come on people

  • @johnkealy2238
    @johnkealy2238 11 місяців тому +14

    He should NEVER have been appointed to this position! He didn't have any serious managerial experience to progress us internationally! Any up & coming players who have international options will only view playing for ROI as a last resort as probably already has happened with Rice & Grealish!

    • @kenoneill8783
      @kenoneill8783 11 місяців тому +3

      He was hopeless, an embarrassment, totally out of his depth.

    • @eamonreidy9534
      @eamonreidy9534 11 місяців тому

      Did we not lose them under a different manager

  • @Burncourtable
    @Burncourtable 10 місяців тому +2

    It has been an interesting experiment that has sadly failed. A lot of it comes back to the pick and our current pool of players. However, i think a more tactically astute and experienced manger (even middle to lower part of C.shIp) "might" move us further up the road to recovery.

  • @bmw-e30
    @bmw-e30 11 місяців тому +5

    Very easy to knock the manager but the pundits did not answer the valid question as to what they would have done differently. If the opposition have better quality players, you are up against it. Kenny is likely doing all he can with the squad he has.

    • @conorcahill5422
      @conorcahill5422 11 місяців тому +2

      In a way, yes, but Kenny is simply out of his depth. Remember we got to Euro 2012 with a frankly rubbish team that had at the time a great manager in Trappattoni.

    • @bmw-e30
      @bmw-e30 11 місяців тому +1

      @@conorcahill5422 Trapattoni didn't believe the Irish players could play football and the team was unwatcheable as they also were under Martin O'Neill. At least Kenny is trying to have them play and pass the ball which is unique for an Irish team. The Irish players are doing their best for Kenny but they just lack quality. God himself could not get any more out of this Irish team.

    • @martin7955
      @martin7955 10 місяців тому

      Yer nuts Kenny is crap

    • @SlavaBanderastan
      @SlavaBanderastan 10 місяців тому

      ​@@conorcahill5422😂 Clueless. We had a squad full of players that actually started for their premier league teams and championship teams.
      Great manager trap. Broke 3 different records in the euros

  • @olivierkepo
    @olivierkepo 11 місяців тому +23

    Kenny isn’t good enough but the fact is that Ireland are 50 years behind other European countries in football development. We need a full professional league and more investment into academies but the disparity is only going to get bigger.

    • @martinfinlay5971
      @martinfinlay5971 11 місяців тому +7

      Since the big cash mafia took over the English league we have mostly only second class players. We should look towards sending our youth to European league's. Not playing in the reserve league's in England. Ireland will never reach the level of German Spanish English nor top established league's..

    • @bernieone1
      @bernieone1 11 місяців тому

      ​@@martinfinlay5971saying this for ten years

    • @raymondbutler834
      @raymondbutler834 11 місяців тому +1

      The main problem is soccer ranks a distant 3rd in Ireland when it comes to sport because Gaelic Games and Rugby rank significantly higher. We have at best a semi-professional league where only a handful of players are good enough to get scouted to play for a Championship level club.

    • @martinfinlay5971
      @martinfinlay5971 11 місяців тому +2

      @@raymondbutler834 not true my friend. More children are playing soccer than any other sport in Ireland. For example check the junior soccer league's senior league school boy league's. If you want check also the FAI junior Cup. I do agree that the FAI are absolutely inept and have been since it's formation.

    • @raymondbutler834
      @raymondbutler834 11 місяців тому +1

      @@martinfinlay5971 I find that hard to believe seeing how there are only a fraction of soccer clubs compared to GAA clubs across Ireland. I'm from Meath and there are approximately 40 to 50 GAA clubs spread across towns and villages with zero emphasis on soccer. I suspect Kildare and the much bigger populated counties like Dublin, Cork and Galway would have significantly more GAA clubs than soccer clubs. I suspect traditionally strong hurling counties like Clare, Limerick, Kilkenny, Tipperary, Wexford etc wouldn't give a damn about soccer between them as the likes of Mayo, Donegal, Tyrone, Armagh, Derry and Kerry would prioritize Gaelic Football over anything else.

  • @marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158
    @marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158 11 місяців тому +4

    You can't turn players with limited ability into diamonds when they are playing (or not) at clubs like Preston, Middlesborough, Stoke, their's a reason why they are not playung for our oponents teams (France and Holland) like Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, Man City, Liverpool, Juventus, PSG etc....the stats don't lie, unless that huge ability gap is changed Ireland will continue to fall to qualify for tournaments and I would say as a 50 year old man i could well be dead by the time they do, and I'm not kidding, we are maybe decades away.

  • @jackdeegam7026
    @jackdeegam7026 11 місяців тому +14

    Whoever paid €120 a ticket are apart of this problem also

    • @cmorrissey67cm
      @cmorrissey67cm 11 місяців тому

      What €120😮

    • @raymondbutler834
      @raymondbutler834 10 місяців тому +1

      Whoever sold tickets for €120 for that level of mediocrity should be ashamed of themselves for daylight robbery.

  • @gypsycob1351
    @gypsycob1351 11 місяців тому +5

    if he loves his country he will step down

  • @tuaman2009
    @tuaman2009 11 місяців тому +12

    Stephen Kelly is desperate, rabbits on consistently without saying anything substantial

  • @Slim-MMA
    @Slim-MMA 11 місяців тому +1

    If the FAI had brains, they’d know they need a foreign manager who can coach a competent high press.

  • @NM-yt4dd
    @NM-yt4dd 11 місяців тому +2

    Send him back to league of Ireland, he’s completely out of his debt. Only Ireland would put someone of this calibre in charge of our country and expect to brain wash supporters to get behind him. A joke of an appointment from the start..

  • @paulkerr2654
    @paulkerr2654 11 місяців тому +9

    I think Shane Duffy is a man behind the times at international level now, both goals come from hia mindset of defending his box first and foremost and playing boys onside.
    Probably time to change manager though, he had no answer to the shape change from the Dutch in the second half.

  • @jamesburke2094
    @jamesburke2094 11 місяців тому +6

    Honestly an utterly ridiculous conversation here. Pure hot air
    When players are garbage there's nothing anyone can do

  • @bkooo5363
    @bkooo5363 11 місяців тому +4

    There is no manager that will qualify these players for any tournament. I’ll challenge any of these pundits to take the lead and qualifying them for a tournament.

    • @Slim-MMA
      @Slim-MMA 11 місяців тому +2

      Utter nonsense. We’ve a decent squad. Loads of countries have worse players and outperform us. I wonder why. Coaching, that’s why.

  • @Slim-MMA
    @Slim-MMA 11 місяців тому +2

    Get a foreign manager who actually knows how to coach a high press.

  • @Peanuthead1890
    @Peanuthead1890 11 місяців тому +1

    We shouldn't expect as much from this group of players, but, that being said I think its time to change the manager and try something different

  • @mbucd
    @mbucd 11 місяців тому +2

    They should have stuck with Mick

  • @niallmurray4667
    @niallmurray4667 11 місяців тому +2

    If Damien Duff is the next manager of these lads i give up

  • @nathansuresh4022
    @nathansuresh4022 10 місяців тому +2

    Didi speaking Facts. It’s a Results business Kenny been giving plenty time and Backing and he’s not Delivered simple as it’s time to go even if it meant getting a Foreign manager in who can play a more attractive style and better in game management and Tactics the players are also to blame. When you see the Likes of teams who are far level below play better and get results it’s pretty worrying. We should be doing a lot better than what we have been. Only reason Kenny still in cuz he was LOI manager. Joke fans spending money home and away to see that level of Performances. Fans need to voice there frustrations to gone on way to long

  • @robertpirsig5011
    @robertpirsig5011 11 місяців тому +5

    Didi hit the nail on the head. We could be getting more out if the players.

    • @Marjopolo302
      @Marjopolo302 11 місяців тому

      More????

    • @GuineaPig91
      @GuineaPig91 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Marjopolo302 Yes more. We qualified for euro 2012, 2016, and lost peno shoot-out in the playoff for the last Euros - with a manager who wasnt a fool

    • @TOFB
      @TOFB 10 місяців тому

      @@GuineaPig91Those players in 2012 and 2016 were very different players to the ones we had playing against Netherlands and France.
      This is the poorest group of players Ireland have had in our lifetimes and that is clearly showing in our results.
      Having seen several Ireland managers on their last game in charge of Ireland, the performances show that the players are playing for Kenny but are just coming up short because the quality isn’t there.

    • @jamesburke2094
      @jamesburke2094 10 місяців тому +1

      @@TOFB
      Spot on
      These high expecting know nothing writers above are merely embarrassing themselves
      Ireland would struggle to win league2 in England

    • @_alienblood
      @_alienblood 10 місяців тому

      ​@TOFB poorer than the players Mick Mc Carthy players who got to a play off?

  • @S_Dunne
    @S_Dunne 11 місяців тому

    They are great at pointing out the problems but can’t identify any solutions. The real question is, if we sack Kenny (which I agree with), what manager can we get/ afford, because our options are very limited!

  • @porchmore
    @porchmore 11 місяців тому +1

    I really cannot believe how established football pundits are all saying the same thing about Stephen Kenny. How we can all have such high expectations of this Ireland team, it’s a bit out of touch. The football is better. The results are the same. I for one prefer watching us try to play football as opposed to route 1 every time.
    Without pointing fingers last night, had we kept a defensive line, both goal’s wouldn’t have stood. If we were a bit more ruthless up front we would have won the game.
    Those are errors on the pitch, nothing to do with the manager.
    Who do we bring in that’s going to drastically improve the results?

  • @gerryfinn7087
    @gerryfinn7087 11 місяців тому +3

    Bring in Big Sam, 4-4-2, Duffy and Idah up front. Glory days are coming

    • @albertmccready478
      @albertmccready478 11 місяців тому

      😂

    • @raymondbutler834
      @raymondbutler834 11 місяців тому

      Nah, Big Sam would call Quinn and Cascarino out of retirement and encourage long balls to be hoofed into the opposition box.

    • @fruitcakereaper6014
      @fruitcakereaper6014 10 місяців тому

      @@raymondbutler834 quinn would do better even today than these losers

  • @gerard279
    @gerard279 11 місяців тому +16

    If Kenny goes then, fans, media need to accept that we need a more pragmatic approach. We can't expect to take these teams on at their own game. We need to play to our strengths, which may not be pretty.

    • @nigefal
      @nigefal 11 місяців тому +6

      Exactly, I don't know where all these pipe dream notions came from the Kenny philosophy hype was unreal. He was being back to the hilt, any slight positive was spun as a 'corner turned'.
      The fact is high energy quick direct football suits Ireland's players, especially with the pace they have. That does not mean hoofing the ball for the sake of it, I mean direct ball with a purpose.

    • @gerard279
      @gerard279 11 місяців тому +1

      @@nigefal Yeah, it was a nice thought that he could turn us into Brazil. But it's been a total disaster from the off, in terms of results. We should play to our limited strengths

    • @biggiesmalls3096
      @biggiesmalls3096 11 місяців тому +1

      I agree after tonight. Should have went at them direct when 2-1 down. Saying that, people will complain regardless. I just want the team to win, I don’t care how we win

    • @Slim-MMA
      @Slim-MMA 11 місяців тому +2

      Your mentality is exactly what’s wrong with Ireland. The biggest problem and the one thing holding Ireland back is PASSIVENESS. Their press is too passive.

    • @gerard279
      @gerard279 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Slim-MMA No, we haven't got the players. The likes of James McLean still playing for us, up against Netherlands. Get real

  • @dermoooojj255
    @dermoooojj255 11 місяців тому +9

    Get Graham Potter on the phone asap

    • @andrewclavin7447
      @andrewclavin7447 11 місяців тому

      No chance
      Why would he take that?
      Brendan rodgers might?
      I have a terrible feeling we will end up with Robbie keane

    • @markdaly1648
      @markdaly1648 11 місяців тому

      There were people in the fai who wanted that. And they were against stephen Kenny. They were in the mccarthy/ john delaney camp. Bringing in Robbie Keane is pie in the sky nostalgic nonsense. And he has no managerial/coaching experience at all.

    • @tonyclifton2230
      @tonyclifton2230 11 місяців тому

      ​@@andrewclavin7447a duff keane duo.

    • @dermoooojj255
      @dermoooojj255 11 місяців тому

      @@andrewclavin7447 celtic are in the champions league, no chance of Brendan

  • @joemcnulty3362
    @joemcnulty3362 11 місяців тому +1

    Imagine trying to defend Stephen Kenny at this point. Ffs.

  • @graemefindlater5234
    @graemefindlater5234 11 місяців тому +1

    They defo don't have the personal. Ireland seem so far off the rest of Europe's middle tier/top tier teams. Ferguson offers a future but they need more. If they had beaten Netherlands, would have been a huge shock. But they ain't anywhere near Netherlands

  • @SA17IRE
    @SA17IRE 11 місяців тому +1

    We up our game vs the big teams. Lose by 1 or 2.. if we can take the same effort vs the Netherlands, France etc.. we need to get the players up for the "lesser" games . Give the same effort vs Netherlands or Greece, the Players have a lot to answer for but the management need to realise the Same tactics vs France is not the way to play vs Greece or others. Play to your strengths.

  • @Ravesnwaves24
    @Ravesnwaves24 11 місяців тому +3

    Dont be buying the tickets cause you be wasting your money once the tickets are still getting sold they dont care because we are all made to believe that its gonna get better when its only staying the same. So i dont blame stephen he is just trying to do his job that he isnt capable of doing at that level. I blame the the Fai for letting it go this far. There should be ameeting called tomorrow discussing the whole coaching staffs future with that andrews gone aswel. They are brutal

  • @Kevin-lf4xx
    @Kevin-lf4xx 11 місяців тому +11

    It’s a results business and previous managers were sacked for poor results.

    • @ivanvincent7534
      @ivanvincent7534 11 місяців тому

      FAI no longer has the cash to attract a big name. Compare Kenny’s salary to Trapattoni.

    • @Woof45
      @Woof45 11 місяців тому

      Why not move away from that and focus more on playing style at grassroots.

  • @kennyryan625
    @kennyryan625 11 місяців тому +3

    We need an English manager, like Jack Charlton or Mick McCarthy. The League of Ireland doesn’t generate enough managerial talent

    • @gerardodwyer5908
      @gerardodwyer5908 11 місяців тому

      If English managers were any good they would be in charge of top PL clubs. They're not. Proof, Liverpool (German), Man City (Spanish), Arsenal (Spanish), Chelsea (Argentinian), Tottenham (Greek), Man Utd (Netherlands).

    • @jameskilmeen
      @jameskilmeen 11 місяців тому +2

      Tottenham is Australia mate 😂😂

    • @gspvideo5543
      @gspvideo5543 11 місяців тому +1

      @@jameskilmeen😂

    • @jameskilmeen
      @jameskilmeen 11 місяців тому

      @@gspvideo5543 Ange Postecogluoplous

    • @windjammer97
      @windjammer97 11 місяців тому

      Jesus god no Mccarthy, is a serious step backwards

  • @johnmalone7913
    @johnmalone7913 11 місяців тому +1

    Its like the filmset of Fair City with Dieter from Killinaskully thrown in. These budget pundits are clowns.....at least Dunphy and Giles have spark....Sadlier barely dirtied his boots on a pitch and this is the best RTE can do.....budget quality from a budget station.....

  • @johnaustinbyrne
    @johnaustinbyrne 11 місяців тому +2

    I'd rather watch Ireland lose while playing football, instead of hoofing for results

  • @jrkkkkkk
    @jrkkkkkk 11 місяців тому +2

    5 competitive wins in 26 matches. Yes you can say its a poor squad but he keeps saying it'll improve and get better when it hasn't happened. it just hasn't worked out for Stephen Kenny and its time to move on for the good of everybody

    • @kevinmartin5489
      @kevinmartin5489 10 місяців тому

      It did get better when they started playing football instead of the shite they played under trapatoni. The squad just doesnt have the midfield personel to get anything done right now. If they start not playing football again, nobody will go to the games & endure that route one shite.

  • @TheBigGoonerAJ
    @TheBigGoonerAJ 11 місяців тому +1

    Ireland should appoint southgate when england sack him

  • @PaulOBrienChina
    @PaulOBrienChina 11 місяців тому +1

    I think we’ve a good group of lads and Kenny has helped them develop but ultimately we aren’t going to outplay technically better teams . Useful skill set to have developed in the players but maybe best to go back to a “park the bus , long ball , counter attack” team ? Knight is a decent player in role against Dutch . Progresses ball , good retention , few good passes that might have resulted in goals . I’d not be playing malumby or smallbone much though . Very regressive . Don’t want to take any responsibility on the ball to make something happen . Safety first and back passes which puts pressure on defence and allows teams to settle . I think this is where Kenny got his selections wrong . Wanted progressive football but played safe players that put not making mistakes over making play first . Few of the lads have proven themselves to be up to it and few lads to develop over next few years . To be honest I think Kenny did an ok job and things looking better for future

  • @missadda8890
    @missadda8890 8 місяців тому

    Nobody with his resume would get an international position.Dunfermline, Dundalk etc , everyone wanted him to succeed because he is such a nice person but the only thing that matters, in the end, are the results, winning cures everything.

  • @thoskel1
    @thoskel1 11 місяців тому

    I am all for giving new managers time to prove himself but I knew from game one Kenny wasnt going to be a successful manager.Let us hope and pray for a miracle that we can qualify through a play off.

  • @noelmurphy9478
    @noelmurphy9478 11 місяців тому +1

    Always blame the manager the players we are not good enough its as simple as that

  • @kathleensmith3263
    @kathleensmith3263 11 місяців тому +4

    The FAI should set up an academy. Where players can be scouted for and nurtured. Ireland is very cosmopolitan,we have DNA from all over the world,South America,Eastern Europe and Asia. Its the 'Elephant In The Room' ,no doubt. Look at England. The game has improved Men /Women ,leaps and bounds.The FAI don't want to spend!GREED!!!!

    • @kenoneill8783
      @kenoneill8783 11 місяців тому

      And what planet is your DNA from? - Cos it certainly ain't from this one

  • @Razormiller
    @Razormiller 11 місяців тому +1

    Im actually delighted SK tried to play passing football, altho I disagreed with some of his selections(McClean)/formations(wingbacks) etc. If anything the team stopped playin to his style towards the end of his reign. We lost confidence, stopped taking risks etc. Against the Dutch you could see the players took the easy option far too much. Kept passing it back to Bazunu for him to go long. Thats understandable tho as confidence was rock bottom by the last few games. When that happens then the manager has to go. SK had plenty of time but just not good enuff unfortunately, Hopefully we stick we the philosophy tho. Just coz the manager isnt good enuff that doesnt mean the philosophy isnt. Plus I never thought itd be a one manager fix

    • @_alienblood
      @_alienblood 10 місяців тому +1

      The way people talk about our passing game its like we are like Brazil or Man City only on occasion under Kenny we played passing at the back 4 when teams allowed it a mix of 2 we are always better when we more physical and dogged we have to mix the 2 styles

  • @CF-lg8jd
    @CF-lg8jd 11 місяців тому

    Having had a look through all Kennys results, other than Greece what games exactly did they lose that you wouldn't of expected them to? Armenia maybe, but that's about it. Easy to be critical without offering any constructive way of fixing things

  • @JB3235
    @JB3235 10 місяців тому +3

    Yes i do agree it is a result based business. Ireland don't normally play attacking football. They like to sit deep play long balls upfront or score from set piece. I don't think they should sack the manager but definitely don't renew his current contract. Just let the current contract he has run out then let him go. Whoever next manager is they have to be flexible with style of play between attacking football and defensive to get results.

  • @tommurphy3544
    @tommurphy3544 10 місяців тому

    The panel now is shocking

  • @Erinbold
    @Erinbold 11 місяців тому +1

    Didi is the best pundit...has been for a while Sadlier is a word salad helum baloon and the other guy is wallpaper....Collins is a good MC, Maloney is a better commentator.

  • @Maixo
    @Maixo 10 місяців тому

    Stephen Kelly harping back to "my time"?? You didn't have a time kiddo! I didn't even know who you were!!

  • @EoinJones
    @EoinJones 11 місяців тому

    Does Didi want the FAI to appoint Hervé Renard? That would be a left-field choice. 😅

  • @supernova101010
    @supernova101010 11 місяців тому +1

    Bring back Steve Staunton

  • @CF-lg8jd
    @CF-lg8jd 11 місяців тому +1

    Not one constructive comment as to what they could do better, just commenting on results which fair enough haven't been great but what would they change if they were the manager. Other than the Greece result which was awful, this team have been good, they just haven't gotten any breaks. I know i'm probably in the minority, but I believe in Kenny, he will get a big result and with Ferguson to come in maybe they'll be more clinical in front of goal, stick with him, the alternative is to go to parking the bus

    • @kevinmartin5489
      @kevinmartin5489 10 місяців тому

      We can pray that premiership level midfielders start to emerge for the squad rapidly!

  • @paulfitness5157
    @paulfitness5157 11 місяців тому

    Bring back launching the ball up to a 6f 4 centre forward put em under pressure

  • @TheLastAngryMan01
    @TheLastAngryMan01 10 місяців тому

    Do people really expect us to beat the likes of France and the Netherlands when we have no players at the top clubs in England or playing in the Champions League?

    • @mikedon5205
      @mikedon5205 8 місяців тому

      No but the trouble is we're not competitive against sides raked near us either like Greece

  • @Bix21-z3f
    @Bix21-z3f 11 місяців тому +1

    The big problem in irish football is FAI!

  • @kevinmelia1880
    @kevinmelia1880 11 місяців тому +1

    Guardiola isn't getting this group of players through this group. The unrealistic expectations of the majority of Irish fans is so dumb.

  • @noelcahill6707
    @noelcahill6707 10 місяців тому

    Sure look at all the years he managed in scotland

  • @seanmccloskey5204
    @seanmccloskey5204 11 місяців тому

    They don't have the players it doesn't matter who are in charge

  • @LarryFogarty
    @LarryFogarty 8 місяців тому

    its the old get rid of the manager time again...when will we not just accept .we have not got the players

  • @eugenefarrell1002
    @eugenefarrell1002 11 місяців тому +1

    Didi knows his onions talks a lot of sence ..Kenny lovely guy but its not working he looked a broken man in the post match interview.

  • @edwardfreeman5263
    @edwardfreeman5263 11 місяців тому +1

    Missed the lart were we should be beating France & Netherlands.

  • @seanoreilly1734
    @seanoreilly1734 11 місяців тому

    Would love to see the next manager making sure the players all learn how to sing the National Anthem. First exercise in bonding and belief.

    • @seanoreilly1734
      @seanoreilly1734 11 місяців тому

      @@ontheturningaway considering I’m 70yrs old I think I’ve already grown up. As I’m sure you know the anthems are always played and sung before internationals and part of the games. A great rallying point before getting STUCK IN…🇮🇪

  • @VerbumAngeli
    @VerbumAngeli 11 місяців тому

    Our defense sucked; this was your opportunity to defeat us. We have great defenders, but half of them can only play in a back four, the other half can only seem to play well in a three or five player defense. It's a real headache for us. It's also embarrassing that we still field Dani Blind. Distinguished career, but we have better players available.

  • @declanhowley4679
    @declanhowley4679 10 місяців тому +1

    alot of talkers..but not one of them said the would give any manager a hand..walk the walk not talk the talk...the f.a.i have ruined football in this country...england have a good team but still havent one anything...cup wise...its not all that bad...

  • @MyThoughtsAreBelow
    @MyThoughtsAreBelow 11 місяців тому

    If they gave points based on effort then we'd be top of the group! C'mon guys Kenny in!!!
    /sarcasm

  • @jimmyf1446
    @jimmyf1446 11 місяців тому

    Pep said he's interested

  • @matthewhilton986
    @matthewhilton986 10 місяців тому

    Am Scottish and Republic of Ireland are better side than the results they've had

  • @CormacSeanObrien
    @CormacSeanObrien 11 місяців тому

    FAI maybe has no money to pay him off so as long as fan turn up he will be there?

  • @Eoin-gg9tz
    @Eoin-gg9tz 11 місяців тому

    Give Roy Keane the job fans will be buzzing

  • @alexandermoonen6170
    @alexandermoonen6170 11 місяців тому

    As I mentioned before when the group was confirmed and I was saying that this is a tough task,you need a special performance against the Dutch and France but at the end of the day it’s a result business, we would like to know where does this team go?.How far could they go?. I knew we never go to beat France,they’re the world champions for a reason and also finalist in the World Cup last year and The Netherlands are a very good team,when we put new players in,I have to say they have given their all since they made their debuts and Hendrick and Doherty are still here which doesn’t make any sense to me and all of us,they hardly play for their clubs,the club manager must have a reason for why Doherty and Hendrick don’t select them.I agree with everyone we need a new fresh start and a new manager,we have given Stephen Kenny a chance to take the time to take us to the next level and unfortunately whatever reason it didn’t work,Stephen Kenny is a league of Ireland at his best,this job he’s taken is too big for him,Mick McCarthy should have stayed,Kenny should have carried on as under-21 manager and he did a fantastic job,beating Italy under 21 was special,the fai made a big mistake.

    • @abelnorbert3217
      @abelnorbert3217 11 місяців тому

      If he had beaten Italy under 21,why haven't he been chosing those same players at senior level. Why he always start with some old players who have low stamina & speed

    • @user-qu7ke8oj5q
      @user-qu7ke8oj5q 11 місяців тому

      Man don't talk about France and Netherlands when you can't beat Greece

    • @alexandermoonen6170
      @alexandermoonen6170 11 місяців тому

      Exactly!100 percent.Why?.This is why we have to talk about.That’s the question we would like to know.

  • @fitzerelli1
    @fitzerelli1 11 місяців тому +3

    Going Into qualifying with no chance is awful,time for a proper manager one who can string a few words together, It's as if he is in complete shock that they have lost again.

  • @donalhickey8506
    @donalhickey8506 11 місяців тому +2

    We couldn't qualify under eoin hand and all the superstars that were in his teams

    • @nigefal
      @nigefal 11 місяців тому +2

      Yeah but it was much harder to qualify for torunaments in Eoin Hand's day. There were much fewer spots. There is also the Nations League avenue as well. Now if you don't qualify for a tournament, it means your manager/team is particularly shite.

    • @donalhickey8506
      @donalhickey8506 11 місяців тому +1

      @@nigefal all right I get your points but I will ask you this how many times have we beaten the Dutch and French in competitive games over the years even when we had top class teams and now there is a big outcry because kenny can't do it with youngsters starting out give him some credit for trying at least

  • @cipiatone
    @cipiatone 11 місяців тому +1

    Championship players V Champions League Winners. What did you think was going to happen?

  • @footballbabybaby
    @footballbabybaby 11 місяців тому

    Playing out from the back is not good football its stupid football
    Playing long and giving teams fits with a high intensity game is the best way for Ireland to go

  • @ocodeskamcdbsm
    @ocodeskamcdbsm 11 місяців тому +4

    FAI get rid of Vera Pauw but have kept Kenny, makes zero sense. Kenny has done nothing positive with Ireland

  • @johndoherty5194
    @johndoherty5194 11 місяців тому +3

    Ireland or Nigeria B team

    • @gerardodwyer5908
      @gerardodwyer5908 11 місяців тому

      Brilliant. The what we need to win formula is fewer Irish and more Africans. Maybe the FAI could do a deal with African states where Irish players line out for their national teams. Could be a few quid in it. John Kiley as the new Ireland manager.

    • @TheBomber15
      @TheBomber15 11 місяців тому

      Ugh. This racism bollocks creeping in, keep your bigotry to yourselves lads.

  • @albertmccready478
    @albertmccready478 11 місяців тому

    We dont have the players, but this manager has not got anything extra from them . Maybe no one will, but its time to try someone else. Evenat that it wont be a top class manager, how could it be? We are a third tier or fourth tier footballing nation.

  • @denistynan3379
    @denistynan3379 11 місяців тому +2

    Kenny only managed league of Ireland .hes out of his depth

  • @imonlytellingthetruth6562
    @imonlytellingthetruth6562 11 місяців тому

    Hold on ???? Absolutely no way have Ireland got the players to produce results …that’s the simple facts

  • @eamonreidy9534
    @eamonreidy9534 11 місяців тому +1

    Typical pundits. Can't do it themselves and also have no actual solution.
    See if they can find a defender playing a higher standard than one who's made 2 appearances in 5 championship games etc

  • @markgaughran4374
    @markgaughran4374 11 місяців тому

    Who realistically could the FAI get if Kenny’s services were done away with

  • @martinfinlay5971
    @martinfinlay5971 11 місяців тому +2

    Stephen took the team as far as he can. Thanks Stephen .

    • @kenoneill8783
      @kenoneill8783 11 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, over a cliff, where do these clowns come from?

    • @martinfinlay5971
      @martinfinlay5971 11 місяців тому +1

      @@kenoneill8783 blame the delaney mafia.

    • @kennyryan625
      @kennyryan625 11 місяців тому

      To defeat? 😂

    • @martinfinlay5971
      @martinfinlay5971 11 місяців тому +3

      @@kennyryan625 It's so easy to kick a man when he's down. Let's just say that he done his best..but it wasn't good enough. Move on.

  • @nc2933
    @nc2933 11 місяців тому +5

    As bad as Steve Staunton

    • @bloke755
      @bloke755 11 місяців тому

      Is this a Dundalk thing with some ......... 🤔🤭

    • @nc2933
      @nc2933 11 місяців тому

      @@bloke755 Paul Crosby 4 manager

    • @paulrussell6495
      @paulrussell6495 11 місяців тому

      And that's fucking bad