The Portuguese burnt plenty of literature of Syrian Christians in the 16th century and tried their best to destroy the faithful in Kerala by manipulation and force which continues till today by the Vatican in Rome. I felt that this was another attempt by an outsider of Kerala to again confuse and destroy the faith of St. Thomas Apostle's arrival in India which is surprising because the Jews were in Kerala after the destruction of Solomons temple and Apostle Thomas first evangelised those Jews who settled here some 1000 years ago before the arrival of Thomas. Its sad to see such videos which try to twist the truth by saying Ethiopia was India because Kerala had trade relations with Middle East for thousands of years before Thomas came so India was known to him and others.
Dear Father, Thanks for sharing an excellent video. In ancient Anuradhapura (SriLanka), a cross was found carved on a rock. Dated, I believe to be around 4th century, it's the same design as the Syrio-Malabar Cross in your video. Today it's part of the Catholic flag of Sri Lanka. Like St Joseph Vaz, in ancient times Christianity came to our island through India. God bless
Calling someone else as Father is insult to your actual parents. Think once with a sane mind and observe what an exclusive cult can enslave the minds of people by selling fake stories & afterlife promises of imaginary heaven instead of creating heaven right here on Earth! Root Cause of Conflicts in Societies "I believe in God" - ok nice! "I believe in one true God" - ok fine; "No other God is true except this one particular God i believe in" - hmmm, i should be cautious with you wrt Gods; "All Gods except the one true God i believe in are FAKE gods, devils, demons" - too much! entering into conflict zone...ends the concept of LIVE AND LET LIVE; "Those who worship fake gods burn in hell for eternity" - recipe for eternal hatred for OTHERS ; "Need to save OTHERS from the eternal hellfire by converting them, by bringing them closer to my God, AND if they don't agree, they will go to HELLFIRE" - paves for way mafia mindset of MY WAY OR HIGHWAY This is Abrahamic doctrine in a nutshell. The doctrine that lead to crusade, colonization, enslavement, killings, loot on OTHER (heathen/kafir) countries like Africa & Bharat for centuries.
St Thomas baptized five families in kerala. Kalli, kalliyangal, kaali, Shangarapuri n Pakalomattom, we can see these families still in the different parts of Kerala. Myself I am from pakalomattom family with a large number of Bishop's, priests, pastors and nuns are in the service of Jesus Christ.
@@sus_6537we don't need to the first churches were converted temples and you know low castes weren't even allowed near a temple till the temple entry proclamation in the 1930s that's proves our brahmin - Nair ancestry
I’m a St. Thomas Christian, whose ancestors migrated from Nilackel, Kerala to Kadampnaad, Kollam, Kerala and consecrated the St. Thomas church in Kadampnaad in AD 325. This ancient church still follows the Indian Syrian Christian traditions of St. Thomas and I’m a proud member of that church and it’s traditions 😊😊
The presenter is twisting the fact.We believe that St.Thomas really came to India to preach and to give witness about Our Lord.He is speaking as if he the master.
Dear sir, it doesn't matter whether he came or not, christ and his apostles reach out to everyone who want to be uplifted in consciousness, and so do all masters. 🙏
My house in St. Thomas Mount is just about 50 feet away from the place there is monument on the steps up the St. Thomas Mount to mark his place where he was speared. The Portugese in their religious fervour did build several churches to mark as place of miracle or sanctity. Hence, these monuments need not necessarily authenticate the history. However, the presence of large number of Indian Christians owing their faith to the evangelization ministry of Thomas the Apostle, definitely lends credence to the theory of Thomas having ministered in Kerala and Tamil Nadu, especially.
There are many false stories floating around in our Kerala. People who tell these baseless false stories and lies are still living among us. Thomas has never been to India or Kerala. If he had been there, the Kerala we see today would not be what it is. This is a false story fabricated for selfish interests. There are many people who shamelessly continue to support it.
I believe he came. good research and well presented. Appreciate your effort in bringing out such knowledge fill content...the later generation will greatly benefit from ..keep going ahead well done
Saint Thomas was a fluent speaker of Aramaic (so am I) and there are over 2 million Indian speakers of Aramaic, yea in Kerala, conduct mass in Aramaic here and now. Explain how 2M Indians speak Aramaic today ! Greetings from San Diego, California
The first church in India is part of Syriac Orthodox Church, the church that still uses aramic in prayers and mass , the catholic colonisers tried best to erase that history
Amen. Thank you Lord Jesus for sending St Thomas. I spent 25 years in Chennai, near St Thomas Mount. You can feel the glory of God when you travel up to the Church in the mount.. The Church houses several relics.
Lol bro I live among Christian community in Kerala. Visit churches and friends from the Christian community. Nobody speaks nothing but Malayalam. In fact I would argue Christians of Kerala is more malayalis than anyone since Bible and their prayers everything is in Malayalam compared to Muslims and Hindus who use Arabic and Sanskrit
We never see visible proof of St Thomas visit to India due to he came to India 2000 years ago not to built or not to write any book. Thomas came to India to spread Gospels to Indians. Thomas bring many Jews, upper and lower caste Hindus in Kerala to God path. Now we all proudly say we believed in one true God. PPL who don't believe in this we can ignore them. There are lots of fool ppl questions even existence of Jesus Christ. Let we continue the evangelisation st. Thomas started in India.
Its more because Portuguese who invaded Kerala destroyed lots of manuscripts of St Thomas' Christians who according to Portuguese were not Christians but pagans.This historical error by Portuguese were accepted and they sought forgiveness.
@AnjaliD-nb7cr monotheism is as worse as communism. Monotheism has killed hundreds of millions of people in the name of one true God. And that God was concentrating only on one region on this big planet. This all powerful God has no sense to instill his faith in our brains. He is letting the fanatics kill, rape, torture indigenous cultures...... Rationality and objectivity is non-existent in monotheism. Middle Eastern monotheists are dogmatic and violent.
Whether Thomas came to Kerala or not can be debated. But Syrian Christians use Syriac in their liturgy. Thus there was an early connection between Kerala n Syria in the first 5 centuries. Predating European Christianity.
Syrian Christians were given refuge by Hindu Kings just like the jews and Parsis who were suffering the very same Islamic onslaught 💯 thats the connection 🙌🏻
Thank you for this presentation. You mentioned "Nasrani" but did not elaborate on that other than saying that it was a term used by Arab Muslims, which is correct. In fact, Nasrani comes from the Koranic-Arabic word Nasara (نَصَـٰرَىٰ ) which means "Christian" in the Koran. Arabic-speaking Christians refer to themselves as "Masihi" (مسيحي), which means "Messiah-follower". "Nasara" comes from the name of the hometown of Jesus Christ, Nazareth, which in Hebrew is נָצְרַת (Natsrat) and in Arabic is ناصرة (Nāṣira). Nasrani, therefore, means "Nazarene".
Nasrani is an Aramaic word, not Arabic word. Quran came almost 600 years after Christianity. When St.Thomas came to India, at 52 AD, there were no term as Christian. The word Nasrani was used to call the followers of the Jesus of Nazareth, so the Thomas Christians(who accepted faith through St.Thomas)are called as Nasranies till now. It has nothing to do with Quran and Arabic language . The term Nasrani existed before Quran itself and so keeping it as reference is not right, for me..
Christians all over the world used to be called Nasrani by others before the term was coined in Antioch. But the Arabs continued to call them that. This may be why Christians in Malaysia are called Srani. This is why ISIS agents marked the houses of Assyrian and Chaldean Christians with the Arab letter "Noon" just before an invasion. ---+--- The first recorded use of the term (or its cognates in other languages) is in the New Testament, in Acts 11 after Barnabas brought Saul (Paul) to Antioch where they taught the disciples for about a year, the text says that "the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch" (Acts 11:26).
Sir, "India" does not mean Kerala region of the South West India ! None of the earliest records mention Kerala region but speaks only about "India" which is now thought to be the North West region of the then undivided India. In the apocryphal book, "Acta Thoma", there is a legend linking St. Thomas 's vist to the Kingdom of Gondophorus. Recently coins bearing the name and picture of the king has been discovered from the regions in Pakistan. The visit of St. Thomas is a cooked up story by the catholic priests
I am from Kerala and know few families who were earlier Brahmins and got embraced Christianity from St.Thomas. I strongly believe it. Because of our long coastal line approach to outside world before Christ, I as a Malayali have no problem in believing it. 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🌹🌹🌹❤️
Today I see a video... One of the Jewish man went back to israel from Kerala .. He is telling from his memory about St Thomas that he came to Kerala that time in Kochi all Jewish people received as him they think he is a rabbi But after that he start converting so many jews people from kochi to Christianity and become they are become his discipline also... ..they are start living in malabar region and followers of St Thomas.
There is some legendrical stories which say that st Thomas came to Sri Lanka. That the name " jinthupitiya" an administrative ward of Colombo is a derivative of thommepitiya. The bishop Oswald gomis, yet living and turned 90 today has written on it. The nestoriyan crosses have also been found here.
Thank you Rev. Fr .It is very clear that you have made a deep study in this historical long standing controversy I am also belonging to Nasarani Christian. We celebrate The Martyrdom. Day of St. Thomas on July 4th every year. A. Sreedhara menon, a great scholar in Kerala History agreed that St. Thomas came in the Kerala coast in A. D 52. The British Encyclopedia also greed this historical event. You might have heard an opinion from Our Late Holiness Pope Benedict 16th that St. Thomas didn't Come to India. Even if we can't deny His view for He was a great scholar, it brought about great protest among the Nasarani Christians. Rev. Fr. thank you for your deep scholarly study Fr.
The Brahmins arrived in Kerala only in the 7 th century according to the Kerala History. So how can you connect the brahmins and the arrival of St Thomas,?
A deep diving explanation of different theories without any controversial claims. Truly rational explanation with relevant facts surrounding it by not taking any sides. Wish this is how the media should be. An amazing video.
I’m a member of Syrian Orthodox Church in Kerala. I have serious doubts regarding St.Thomas tradition, of him having evangelized in Kerala and converted Brahmins to Christianity. Kerala, 2000 years ago was ruled by the Cheras, and Brahmanical tradition (Nambhoothiri) did not exist in that region. If St.Thomas did come to Kerala, he most probably came to evalngelize amongst the Jews who came and settled there for trading purposes. If he was sent to Kerala, he would have gone there under the behest of St.James (Jesus’ brother) of Jerusalem, who did not encourage non Jews to become Christians. Of course, what I’ve said is speculative, as I have no basis to prove or disprove this theory. I believe this Church came into existence because of extensive contacts with existing middle Eastern churches in the Semitic world!
Yes Thomas came to India. When I was in Chennai. I used to go up to Thomas Mount and Sing songs and Read my Bible. I felt the Presence of GOD. IT'S AMAZING.
I have a considerable respect regardin oral traditions. Indeed the hole Biblia, old and new Testament, before be writted come from oral traditions. It remained oraly preserved during centuries without lose his contents and fidelity. In ancient times, when there wasn´t any writing, folks preserved historical facts oraly. They knew how to do that well. .
St.Thomas arrived came to Kerala india in 62 AD then came to kanyakumari diatrict in Tamilnadu in 63 AD then went to Chennai after 3 months in 64 AD killed in Chennai in 72 AD done lot of miracles by grace of true living God Jesus Yesu
In this generation people ask for , archeological evidence, scientific proof, and so on... when you present everything.. Still their hardened heart never repent to enter into kingdom of God. When Christ comes the ones who asked for proof would still oppose and bring accusations. Share the gospel ( goodnews) for the true God seekers.
We find great difficulty in the Christian history in Kerala, because of the manipulation made by the Portuguese Christian system. There are many. Eg. The city in the first century 'Palore ' in which St. Thomas preached was formated into Palayur at different place by two centuries ago. Actually St. Thomas came at Palore in search of God's people the Jews. May be their Synagogue had change into Church. He reached there by a waterway from the Arabian sea ending on the pond nearby that Church. Which was also manipulated in to Brahmin baptism theory. And another manipulated history happened against the ancient Church in Palore that a priest was killed in its Holy Altar by Tippu Sultan. That was a well-known story in that whole Taluk. The truth unearthed by three decades ago that Tippu's war against Nazranigur was in 1789,but the present Church was built in 1806. The port ' Muziris' of Pleny the elder was erased from history. It's forced to believe that place is Kodungallur. There no research and no evidence of first Chera dynasty ruled in between 3rd century BC and 300 CE. We know that the Palore city and Muziris port was ruled by them and St. Thomas came there amidst their ruling. It's the 2nd Chera dynasty moved from there to Kodungallur by fifth century.
Thank you for the wonderful explanation, it takes me back to my Indian Church History class in Seminary, I believe it's tradition and as you said it's one's faith.
Fantastical explained and thank you. We have excavated St.Thomas crucifix in Goa and a hill is also named after him as it is believed he preached there and Christians first couple. You should visit Pillar seminário in Goa to find out.
Thank you for a brilliant analysis, When I visited the alleged St.Thomas tomb as a foreign tourist, there was a stray dog sleeping on it within the church premises.
It's not a sin for a dog to be on the tomb of a saint. This dog is pure and innocent, perhaps much better than many people. So, for us Christians it is not an outrage.
Thank you. I enjoyed seeing all the diverse evidence put together in one project, and in such a concise presentation! I think of faith as a trust, and I want to trust in what is "amen" - what is fixed, steadfast, reliable, unwavering ... "nailed" into place. These relate to a Hebrew word also for "true" or "truth" or "trustworthy". Since I can't see that any of these ideas of St. Thomas' possible work in India meets the standard that those adjectives signify, I can't say that I have any faith either way. Where my faith does lie is in the God of Israel and his anointed king Jesus of Nazareth, who do meet the standard that those adjectives signify. The Holy Trinity is trustworthy, and that is where my faith conviction rests secure. There is an interplay relationship whereby the one who trusts is trustworthy to the one deserving of trust, and the one deserving of trust is be definition trustworthy. This is our faith and loyalty relationship as Christians, and reflects the faithfulness and loyalty of Jesus the Messiah.
I mean, technically theres no evidence peter went to rome either........and it's the same for the majority of the apostles. Only 2 or 3 can be confirmed.
Very well elucidated. The facts and evidences far exceeds the theory that it wasn’t St. Thomas. My faith further reinforces that it was only Apostle Thomas a.k.a Didymus who had brought the message of Christ to India.
I living in Malayatoor where St. Thomas , as I am heared , was choose the right place having calm and peace for his meditation and prayer , I am still visit the Church with high spirit of follower of St. Thomas , I enough strongly believer to be the fact that St.Thomas had been visited Malayatoor .
🌺🍀🍀🍁🍀🍀🌺 I have heard about St. Thomas while in India, Mother Pass away ... Miraculously, by TRANSLOCATION. ... He was literally transported to Jerusalem... was able to see the body of Mother Mary ... Hope in Rome, some clues could be found to substantiate this event .... Milestone !!
I was listening to readings of the visions of St. Catherine of Emmerich. In one of them, she was recounting the last days of the Blessed Virgin Mary. She said that St. Thomas was late, arriving only after she had passed away and was buried, but I don't recall if it was after the Apostles discovered her body being assumed to heaven. Anyway, St. Catherine said that St. Thomas returned to India where he was killed by a spear, and that the spot where he died was on a stone that bore his knee marks. The visionary was a secluded nun living in the 18th century.
I love the Miracle of Thomas the story of which you relate. It was so philosophical yet physical, proving nothing and everything. The Brahmins should have been flattered that it was given to them -- but it was a sword, dividing those able to accept it as an affirmance of One God from those to proud to accept the nullification of their traditions.
There was no Brahmins then and if they did get converted that means they didn’t give a shit about their caste or religion which I find very hard to believe
It is essential to recognize that Kerala's identity has evolved over centuries, particularly following the development of the Malayalam language from ancient Tamil roots. This rich linguistic and cultural heritage provides context to historical events, including Thomas's visit to the region once part of the Chera Tamil Kingdom. Understanding this history can foster a greater appreciation for the diverse influences that have shaped Kerala's unique character.
The literature regarding St Thomas and the church records were destroyed by the Portuguese priests as heretical, the Roman Catholic Church actually destroyed the indigenous Christian culture, the Roman Catholic Church has its own narrative to show that it's supreme.
St. Thomas came to North of India starting from Edessa /Urfa via the euphrates tigris river route establishing churches in North of Iraq including Baghdad, South of Iraq in Basra, in what is now Iran, Afghanistan, what is now Pakistan and the northern parts of India and then he went back to Edessa /Urfa. Then he went to Egypt waited there for a ship to take him to south of India. He had written a book on his journey to India and it was discovered in St. Catherine's monastery in Egypt in the 18th century. The he found a ship that took him to the south of India and landed in kerala.
In our our hurry to find out about history and geography of Thomas, may we not forget the teaching he brought to the world i.e the message of God, the Bible, that of the NAZARENE (Jesus Christ).
Makes no sense when Western scholars say that St.Thomas did not come to India....when the locals themselves proudly proclaim he did !! We trust the locals ... Godbless 🙏🏼
It was really Probable , because according to gospel of Matthew, the original 12 apostles were sent to preach to 12 tribes of Israel and it was said that many of the so- called 10 Lost Tribes of Israel migrated to India- Pakistan- Kashmir regions after the 10 tribes were exiled by Assyrians of Mesopotamia ... so the apostles Thomas and Bartholomew converted them in accordance to their mission given by Christ.... It is notable that there were NEW TESTAMENT SCRIPTURES in Malabar which were written in SYRIAC- PESHITTA which was a dialect of Aramaic
Yes, it seems that St. Thomas came to India from the various narratives. Pray our Country is Blessed by St Thomas with prayers for Love Peace Unity, spiritual enlightenment filled with Happiness of India.
He would be shocked if he did turn up today! I was. Christianity has changed in India ever since English was put on the back burner. Christianity in India is a strange mixture of anglicised tradition and local performance. It leaves those with an English background confused. Still , faith is in the eye of the beholder!
Great, Thats great information.. As mentioned Arikamedu is near Mylapore, Where is this Arikamedu located exactly ....and second Arikamedu is in Pondicherry which is also known Indi-Roman Trade Center... Pl reply
I'm heavily convicted, and have been for years, that Saint Thomas came to Persia, Parthia & India, that the Christians Vasco de Gama met in the Kingdom of Calicut was Thomas's Church, and I'm also currently convicted that Saint Batholomew, Saint Pantænus & Saint Thomas of Kinayi all evangelized the Indian Subcontinent.
In Goa Agacaim a St. Thomas cross is found by Historian Fr. Cosme D'Costa whose birth also was a miracle to get sainthood to St. Jose Vaz from Goa. This cross is in Pillar Seminary museum.
It was a wonderful search to establish if St: Thomas had come to India to preach the gospel first। If we are confirmed that all other 11disciples went to 11 different country or places of the world, it surely be St Thomas who came and preach the gospel, because someone did it, as a general understanding।
Christians all over the world used to be called Nasrani by others before the term was coined in Antioch. But the Arabs continued to call them that. This may be why Christians in Malaysia are called Srani. This is why ISIS agents marked the houses of Assyrian and Chaldean Christians with the Arab letter "Noon" just before an invasion. ---+--- The first recorded use of the term (or its cognates in other languages) is in the New Testament, in Acts 11 after Barnabas brought Saul (Paul) to Antioch where they taught the disciples for about a year, the text says that "the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch" (Acts 11:26).
Thank you Fr. for this very concise exposure of the various theories that surround the arrival of St Thomas to India. I would prefer to think that he really did come to India but the question that lingers on my head is how did he get there?
I pray to St. Thomas and i am sure you will become a Christian. No one can stop it. Amen,your family becomes Christian Amen. We are Christian by St. Xavier. Our church is St. Thomas Church. From Thoothukudi Tamil Nadu INDIA ❤️ 🇮🇳.
This is a clear, cool analysis of the belief. I, though an agnost, believe that St. Thomas indeed came to India to spread the Gospel & was martyred on present day St. Thomas Mount.
Apostle Thomas came to pakistan first..The ruined chapel at sircap near Taxila is the clear evidence. The Quaide Azam university of pakistan accepts the sircap museum and the Chapel at sircap pakistan. Moreover the Baltistan university of pakistan too has found out the large kavardo cross at Skardu of pakistan
St. Thomas came to India, this is my strong feeling and may have assisted to preach Christianity in the south. As such the south Indians have a strong faith. Direct Apostle Connection,
Yes... St Thomas came to South India as an Aspostle and build a 7½ Churches. One of the ½Church builded at Thiruvithamcode,now rhis place is located at Tamilnadu, Kanyakumari Dist... 🙏
Mar Thoma came in search for lost 10 tribes who were longing for their messiah. All 7 churches he established were jewish colonies as per the local history, present day and archeological evidence includingthe copper plates granted to this community. We St.thomas Christians, eka Nazrani Christians of kerala, still worship in Suriyani, the native dielect of our messiah , jesus of Nazareth . Proud to be mar thoma nazrani .
God seeks to gift faith. Satan and human nature seek to sow doubt. This video sows doubt through an open ended conclusion (lack of clear affirmative statement). Faith and reason are both required, with faith being greater. Without faith, you cannot come into contact with God. In the same way, the Bible and Catholic tradition (with vetting of Catholic Church) go hand in hand. There is a reason the initial fathers of the church through prayer decided, the apocryphal book "Acts of Thomas" won't be a part of the Bible, because it was not from God (ie through divine intervention in part or full). Yet you use it as a reference. Why? You also state that multiple Church Fathers (saints) clearly have written about St. Thomas evangelising India. For a true Catholic, we require no other proof. Yet, you have mentioned it as one among many theories. Through reason we can see that, if Christians were present in present day region of Kerala before Portuguese settlers and St. Francis Xavier arrived in 15-16th century, where did they come from? They did not grow out from the soil. Someone evangelised the region. All indicators (ancient churches, songs, prayers, Syrian rite, oral traditions) point to this. It wasn't Arab merchants, not Jewish migrators or even any ordinary evangelist. It had to be someone filled with the Holy Spirit. To baptise a whole region, and for such communities to survive through centuries is a work of the Hand of God. If you cannot contribute to increasing faith in souls, you are not serving God or His Church. You are serving something else. So my request is this. If you cannot share in spreading the faith, it is better to stay quiet, if your intent is to serve God. I say this with love.
What if there were a different group of people before the Brahmins reached what is today Kerala, who were performing the religious rites? And they were the ones who were converted by St.Thomas? The traditional description used the word namputhiri (നമ്പൂതിരി), and Brahmins might have replaced the namputhiri in performing the religious rites. And may be they also were later called namputhiri?
thank you for this elaboration. .. nosrani are called by muslems to the christians as there were a christian jewish sect in arabia named naserrin , they were trying to reconcile the christianity with monotheistic view in Judaism. however in egypt , christians are called nasara witch is the pleural of nosrani , means believing in the one from Nazareth , where Jesus lived .. God bless your service dear father
My father's paternal grandparents were natives of Tamil Nadu and while I believe they were Hindu, I think my great grandmother took a more syncretistic approach to her religious practice. They believed that St Thomas came to India and I want to believe the same despite the lack of concrete evidence. I am curious to know if there are there people in South India who practice a mix of Christianity and Hinduism. I have heard that the Portuguese may have destroyed precious ancient palm leaf manuscripts in their 16th century attempts to make the more Hinduism-tolerant St Thomas Christianity of Kerala and Tamil Nadu, more closely resemble that of Rome. Does anyone have more information on this?
It is easy to see that the Catholic faith has struggled hard in India and have a feeling will not last much longer due to religious pressures both inside and outside the Faith. We now have a Pope that may the death nail to the Catholic Church. India has a rich history of philosophy and the Hindus bore some good examples of the best in virtues, loyalties, and stowic strengths that helped in conversions to Jesus because it was already built in them, making Christanity easy to take in. India can bear great minds to the Faith and may even save it from heresy if only the hardships of Politics can ease a bit, but that is in the deepest of wells unable too find water. Thank You So Much.
Good ... Halleluia .. thank you for sharing this information ... When there is confusion ... Pray to Holy Spirit ... Who allow us to recall very many events ... With proofs , if tequired , to substantiate ... The truth of St. Thomas visit to India... Rely on HS ...Ave Maria
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Did St. Thomas come to India? What is your faith conviction?
Excellent video for validating faith to belief .Brings people of our faith closer
There are Nambiar bhramins on that time how can they kill Thomas?
He did came.
The Portuguese burnt plenty of literature of Syrian Christians in the 16th century and tried their best to destroy the faithful in Kerala by manipulation and force which continues till today by the Vatican in Rome. I felt that this was another attempt by an outsider of Kerala to again confuse and destroy the faith of St. Thomas Apostle's arrival in India which is surprising because the Jews were in Kerala after the destruction of Solomons temple and Apostle Thomas first evangelised those Jews who settled here some 1000 years ago before the arrival of Thomas. Its sad to see such videos which try to twist the truth by saying Ethiopia was India because Kerala had trade relations with Middle East for thousands of years before Thomas came so India was known to him and others.
Which Christian faith was present in Kerala prior to arrival of Portuguese in Kerala?
Thanks for your excellent analysis of St.Thomas coming to India. What matters is Christ the king. Thanks.
Dear Father, Thanks for sharing an excellent video.
In ancient Anuradhapura (SriLanka), a cross was found carved on a rock. Dated, I believe to be around 4th century, it's the same design as the Syrio-Malabar Cross in your video. Today it's part of the Catholic flag of Sri Lanka. Like St Joseph Vaz, in ancient times Christianity came to our island through India. God bless
Calling someone else as Father is insult to your actual parents. Think once with a sane mind and observe what an exclusive cult can enslave the minds of people by selling fake stories & afterlife promises of imaginary heaven instead of creating heaven right here on Earth!
Root Cause of Conflicts in Societies
"I believe in God" - ok nice!
"I believe in one true God" - ok fine;
"No other God is true except this one particular God i believe in" - hmmm, i should be cautious with you wrt Gods;
"All Gods except the one true God i believe in are FAKE gods, devils, demons" - too much! entering into conflict zone...ends the concept of LIVE AND LET LIVE;
"Those who worship fake gods burn in hell for eternity" - recipe for eternal hatred for OTHERS ;
"Need to save OTHERS from the eternal hellfire by converting them, by bringing them closer to my God, AND if they don't agree, they will go to HELLFIRE" - paves for way mafia mindset of MY WAY OR HIGHWAY
This is Abrahamic doctrine in a nutshell.
The doctrine that lead to crusade, colonization, enslavement, killings, loot on OTHER (heathen/kafir) countries like Africa & Bharat for centuries.
St Thomas baptized five families in kerala. Kalli, kalliyangal, kaali, Shangarapuri n Pakalomattom, we can see these families still in the different parts of Kerala. Myself I am from pakalomattom family with a large number of Bishop's, priests, pastors and nuns are in the service of Jesus Christ.
Even my family claims but I have my doubts
Why cannot do a DNA ancestory test of these members ?
self-attested certificates are not accepted in the matters of a credible history...probably, you can prove it with a DNA test😂
You mean Christians have different DNA. Not sure what you achieve with DNA test. Often traditions are powerful sources.
@@sus_6537we don't need to the first churches were converted temples and you know low castes weren't even allowed near a temple till the temple entry proclamation in the 1930s that's proves our brahmin - Nair ancestry
I’m a St. Thomas Christian, whose ancestors migrated from Nilackel, Kerala to Kadampnaad, Kollam, Kerala and consecrated the St. Thomas church in Kadampnaad in AD 325. This ancient church still follows the Indian Syrian Christian traditions of St. Thomas and I’m a proud member of that church and it’s traditions 😊😊
So traditions say so to proof
The presenter is twisting the fact.We believe that St.Thomas really came to India to preach and to give witness about Our Lord.He is speaking as if he the master.
Aha Kollallo...I'm a St.Thomas Christian from Kallada...near Kadampanad
Seven Churches established by St. Thomas in Kerala India
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I want to visit your church.
Dear sir, it doesn't matter whether he came or not, christ and his apostles reach out to everyone who want to be uplifted in consciousness, and so do all masters. 🙏
A big Amen. God bless you bro.
Amen
Yes but it’s still interesting
you do not know your Christ then..dont assume
My house in St. Thomas Mount is just about 50 feet away from the place there is monument on the steps up the St. Thomas Mount to mark his place where he was speared. The Portugese in their religious fervour did build several churches to mark as place of miracle or sanctity. Hence, these monuments need not necessarily authenticate the history. However, the presence of large number of Indian Christians owing their faith to the evangelization ministry of Thomas the Apostle, definitely lends credence to the theory of Thomas having ministered in Kerala and Tamil Nadu, especially.
There are many false stories floating around in our Kerala. People who tell these baseless false stories and lies are still living among us. Thomas has never been to India or Kerala. If he had been there, the Kerala we see today would not be what it is. This is a false story fabricated for selfish interests. There are many people who shamelessly continue to support it.
Nice to hear from you Nirmal ! Are you living in this house or in Trichy ?
I believe he came. good research and well presented. Appreciate your effort in bringing out such knowledge fill content...the later generation will greatly benefit from ..keep going ahead well done
thanks so much bro....may St Thomas bless us !!!
@@AJesuitAdventure Let God bless us not St Thomas. He is our beloved Apostle, who led us to Jesus and salvation. Amen
Saint Thomas was a fluent speaker of Aramaic (so am I) and there are over 2 million Indian speakers of Aramaic, yea in Kerala, conduct mass in Aramaic here and now. Explain how 2M Indians speak Aramaic today !
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@genesis, this is a new information for me, never heard about this.
The first church in India is part of Syriac Orthodox Church, the church that still uses aramic in prayers and mass , the catholic colonisers tried best to erase that history
That's a new information to me,any source for that?
Amen. Thank you Lord Jesus for sending St Thomas. I spent 25 years in Chennai, near St Thomas Mount. You can feel the glory of God when you travel up to the Church in the mount.. The Church houses several relics.
Lol bro I live among Christian community in Kerala. Visit churches and friends from the Christian community. Nobody speaks nothing but Malayalam. In fact I would argue Christians of Kerala is more malayalis than anyone since Bible and their prayers everything is in Malayalam compared to Muslims and Hindus who use Arabic and Sanskrit
We never see visible proof of St Thomas visit to India due to he came to India 2000 years ago not to built or not to write any book. Thomas came to India to spread Gospels to Indians. Thomas bring many Jews, upper and lower caste Hindus in Kerala to God path. Now we all proudly say we believed in one true God. PPL who don't believe in this we can ignore them. There are lots of fool ppl questions even existence of Jesus Christ. Let we continue the evangelisation st. Thomas started in India.
Its more because Portuguese who invaded Kerala destroyed lots of manuscripts of St Thomas' Christians who according to Portuguese were not Christians but pagans.This historical error by Portuguese were accepted and they sought forgiveness.
First bring upper and lower cast Christians together , catolics and protestents , because of them genocides were happened in the past.
@@AnjaliD-nb7cr The main reason for that is Portuguese. They brutally harassed these syrian Christians thats why they still fight with Latin liturgy's
Indians wrote in Palmscript even before the guy came to India and converted Hindus.
@AnjaliD-nb7cr monotheism is as worse as communism. Monotheism has killed hundreds of millions of people in the name of one true God. And that God was concentrating only on one region on this big planet. This all powerful God has no sense to instill his faith in our brains. He is letting the fanatics kill, rape, torture indigenous cultures......
Rationality and objectivity is non-existent in monotheism.
Middle Eastern monotheists are dogmatic and violent.
Whether Thomas came to Kerala or not can be debated. But Syrian Christians use Syriac in their liturgy. Thus there was an early connection between Kerala n Syria in the first 5 centuries. Predating European Christianity.
Syrian Christians were given refuge by Hindu Kings just like the jews and Parsis who were suffering the very same Islamic onslaught 💯 thats the connection 🙌🏻
It is my belief that st. Thomas came to India for sure. Often tradition is a powerful source of history
Then Ramayana should also be true as Often tradition is a powerful source of history.
List of things that didn't happen@@mounish6074
It is my belief that Santa exists. Often tradition is a powerful source of history.
Thank you for this presentation. You mentioned "Nasrani" but did not elaborate on that other than saying that it was a term used by Arab Muslims, which is correct. In fact, Nasrani comes from the Koranic-Arabic word Nasara (نَصَـٰرَىٰ ) which means "Christian" in the Koran. Arabic-speaking Christians refer to themselves as "Masihi" (مسيحي), which means "Messiah-follower". "Nasara" comes from the name of the hometown of Jesus Christ, Nazareth, which in Hebrew is נָצְרַת (Natsrat) and in Arabic is ناصرة (Nāṣira). Nasrani, therefore, means "Nazarene".
Thank you for your inputs.
Nasrani means followers of Jesus. Jesus of Nazareth.
Nasrani is an Aramaic word, not Arabic word. Quran came almost 600 years after Christianity.
When St.Thomas came to India, at 52 AD, there were no term as Christian. The word Nasrani was used to call the followers of the
Jesus of Nazareth, so the Thomas Christians(who accepted faith through St.Thomas)are called as Nasranies till now. It has nothing to do with Quran and Arabic language .
The term Nasrani existed before Quran itself and so keeping it as reference is not right, for me..
"Natsrat"? Even today that place is called "Nazaret" in Hebrew
Christians all over the world used to be called Nasrani by others before the term was coined in Antioch. But the Arabs continued to call them that. This may be why Christians in Malaysia are called Srani. This is why ISIS agents marked the houses of Assyrian and Chaldean Christians with the Arab letter "Noon" just before an invasion.
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The first recorded use of the term (or its cognates in other languages) is in the New Testament, in Acts 11 after Barnabas brought Saul (Paul) to Antioch where they taught the disciples for about a year, the text says that "the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch" (Acts 11:26).
Very factually done. Faith is what will seal one's belief. St Thomas Bless My Country India.
I'm a German evangelical Christian. I do believe St. Thomas, the disciple of the Lord Jesus came to India!!!
Love you. God bless you
How were u alive then 🙄
German🇩🇪. Has. Radical isalam dangerous. 😢. I. Don't. Remember. Dec-25-2024.. Car. Accident.. Wake up wake up
Gentleman, there is no historical evidence of Jesus Christ's existence in the first place.
Sir, "India" does not mean Kerala region of the South West India ! None of the earliest records mention Kerala region but speaks only about "India" which is now thought to be the North West region of the then undivided India. In the apocryphal book, "Acta Thoma", there is a legend linking St. Thomas 's vist to the Kingdom of Gondophorus. Recently coins bearing the name and picture of the king has been discovered from the regions in Pakistan. The visit of St. Thomas is a cooked up story by the catholic priests
Thanks. I believe in both north india and Mylapore traditions. Jerusalem to Judea to Samaria and to the ends of the earth Jesus is Lord.
I am from Kerala and know few families who were earlier Brahmins and got embraced Christianity from St.Thomas.
I strongly believe it. Because of our long coastal line approach to outside world before Christ, I as a Malayali have no problem in believing it. 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🌹🌹🌹❤️
Learn history properly 😂
There was no noombh in Kerala in 1st century 😂
Brahimism wasnt in kerala when st thomas came here.... Plz study history
Pinne brahmanu thalakku veliville ..
Saint Thomas was in India in the year 55, in China in 69 and died in India in 72.
Great information, makes lots of sense.
FAKE Pope himself denies this false narratives in 2006
He never ever visited china 😂
He traveled only in 2 Indian states; Kerela & Tamilnadu
Very insightful.
Kudos to all your efforts you took to make a study and present the topic on an interesting way!
Glad it was helpful! thanks a lot for your encouragement 😍
Today I see a video... One of the Jewish man went back to israel from Kerala .. He is telling from his memory about St Thomas that he came to Kerala that time in Kochi all Jewish people received as him they think he is a rabbi But after that he start converting so many jews people from kochi to Christianity and become they are become his discipline also... ..they are start living in malabar region and followers of St Thomas.
Such an interestingly detailed study. Whatever the theories Faith matters more and a belief in St Thomas
thanks for writing in....faith is what sustains us in life eventually 🙂
There is some legendrical stories which say that st Thomas came to Sri Lanka. That the name " jinthupitiya" an administrative ward of Colombo is a derivative of thommepitiya. The bishop Oswald gomis, yet living and turned 90 today has written on it. The nestoriyan crosses have also been found here.
Thank you Rev. Fr .It is very clear that you have made a deep study in this historical long standing controversy
I am also belonging to Nasarani Christian. We celebrate The Martyrdom. Day of St. Thomas on July 4th every year.
A. Sreedhara menon, a great scholar in Kerala History agreed that St. Thomas came in the Kerala coast in A. D 52. The British Encyclopedia also greed this historical event.
You might have heard an opinion from Our Late Holiness Pope Benedict 16th that St. Thomas didn't Come to India. Even if we can't deny His view for He was a great scholar, it brought about great protest among the Nasarani Christians.
Rev. Fr. thank you for your deep scholarly study
Fr.
The Brahmins arrived in Kerala only in the 7 th century according to the Kerala History. So how can you connect the brahmins and the arrival of St Thomas,?
A deep diving explanation of different theories without any controversial claims. Truly rational explanation with relevant facts surrounding it by not taking any sides. Wish this is how the media should be. An amazing video.
I’m a member of Syrian Orthodox Church in Kerala. I have serious doubts regarding St.Thomas tradition, of him having evangelized in Kerala and converted Brahmins to Christianity. Kerala, 2000 years ago was ruled by the Cheras, and Brahmanical tradition (Nambhoothiri) did not exist in that region.
If St.Thomas did come to Kerala, he most probably came to evalngelize amongst the Jews who came and settled there for trading purposes. If he was sent to Kerala, he would have gone there under the behest of St.James (Jesus’ brother) of Jerusalem, who did not encourage non Jews to become Christians. Of course, what I’ve said is speculative, as I have no basis to prove or disprove this theory. I believe this Church came into existence because of extensive contacts with existing middle Eastern churches in the Semitic world!
Yes Thomas came to India. When I was in Chennai. I used to go up to Thomas Mount and Sing songs and Read my Bible. I felt the Presence of GOD. IT'S AMAZING.
God bless
How could you proof??
@@dpikunpikun2655 just search the oldest church in India.... It was made by st Thomas way before the arrival of Portuguese and others
I have a considerable respect regardin oral traditions. Indeed the hole Biblia, old and new Testament, before be writted come from oral traditions. It remained oraly preserved during centuries without lose his contents and fidelity. In ancient times, when there wasn´t any writing, folks preserved historical facts oraly. They knew how to do that well. .
Whole* not hole.
St.Thomas arrived came to Kerala india in 62 AD then came to kanyakumari diatrict in Tamilnadu in 63 AD then went to Chennai after 3 months in 64 AD killed in Chennai in 72 AD done lot of miracles by grace of true living God Jesus Yesu
I like this video, I want to go to Kerala to do the pilgrimage. Amen
In this generation people ask for , archeological evidence, scientific proof, and so on... when you present everything.. Still their hardened heart never repent to enter into kingdom of God. When Christ comes the ones who asked for proof would still oppose and bring accusations. Share the gospel ( goodnews) for the true God seekers.
Creative and excellent work! 👍 Congratulations 👏
Thank you so much 😀
Nice video bro. I do believe that he came to India. However, even if he didn't, that doesn't matter. Faith is important 🙏
thats indeed an excellent insight Kaitan..God Bless!!!
@@AJesuitAdventure yes bro, we live by faith not by the proofs even though there are substantial proofs (for those who need).
We find great difficulty in the Christian history in Kerala, because of the manipulation made by the Portuguese Christian system. There are many. Eg. The city in the first century 'Palore ' in which St. Thomas preached was formated into Palayur at different place by two centuries ago. Actually St. Thomas came at Palore in search of God's people the Jews. May be their Synagogue had change into Church. He reached there by a waterway from the Arabian sea ending on the pond nearby that Church. Which was also manipulated in to Brahmin baptism theory. And another manipulated history happened against the ancient Church in Palore that a priest was killed in its Holy Altar by Tippu Sultan. That was a well-known story in that whole Taluk. The truth unearthed by three decades ago that Tippu's war against Nazranigur was in 1789,but the present Church was built in 1806. The port ' Muziris' of Pleny the elder was erased from history. It's forced to believe that place is Kodungallur. There no research and no evidence of first Chera dynasty ruled in between 3rd century BC and 300 CE. We know that the Palore city and Muziris port was ruled by them and St. Thomas came there amidst their ruling. It's the 2nd Chera dynasty moved from there to Kodungallur by fifth century.
Thank you for the wonderful explanation, it takes me back to my Indian Church History class in Seminary, I believe it's tradition and as you said it's one's faith.
Fantastical explained and thank you.
We have excavated St.Thomas crucifix in Goa and a hill is also named after him as it is believed he preached there and Christians first couple.
You should visit Pillar seminário in Goa to find out.
Thank you for a brilliant analysis, When I visited the alleged St.Thomas tomb as a foreign tourist, there was a stray dog sleeping on it within the church premises.
Not sure who was your guide. The tomb is inside a church premise. How can a dog even get in.
It's not a sin for a dog to be on the tomb of a saint. This dog is pure and innocent, perhaps much better than many people. So, for us Christians it is not an outrage.
St. Thomas was a aTamilian Brahmin who was a native of Tamil Nadu.This is my version.
Thank you. I enjoyed seeing all the diverse evidence put together in one project, and in such a concise presentation! I think of faith as a trust, and I want to trust in what is "amen" - what is fixed, steadfast, reliable, unwavering ... "nailed" into place. These relate to a Hebrew word also for "true" or "truth" or "trustworthy". Since I can't see that any of these ideas of St. Thomas' possible work in India meets the standard that those adjectives signify, I can't say that I have any faith either way. Where my faith does lie is in the God of Israel and his anointed king Jesus of Nazareth, who do meet the standard that those adjectives signify. The Holy Trinity is trustworthy, and that is where my faith conviction rests secure. There is an interplay relationship whereby the one who trusts is trustworthy to the one deserving of trust, and the one deserving of trust is be definition trustworthy. This is our faith and loyalty relationship as Christians, and reflects the faithfulness and loyalty of Jesus the Messiah.
Production Quality keeps getting better, we might have a Netflix Show soon!
hahaah....sure bro will definitely try...provided u work on the designing 🤩
I mean, technically theres no evidence peter went to rome either........and it's the same for the majority of the apostles. Only 2 or 3 can be confirmed.
Very well elucidated. The facts and evidences far exceeds the theory that it wasn’t St. Thomas. My faith further reinforces that it was only Apostle Thomas a.k.a Didymus who had brought the message of Christ to India.
Well explained brother.. 😍😍🔥🔥
Thank you so much 😀 God Bless !!!
I living in Malayatoor where St. Thomas , as I am heared , was choose the right place having calm and peace for his meditation and prayer , I am still visit the Church with high spirit of follower of St. Thomas , I enough strongly believer to be the fact that St.Thomas had been visited Malayatoor .
🌺🍀🍀🍁🍀🍀🌺 I have heard about St. Thomas while in India, Mother Pass away ... Miraculously, by TRANSLOCATION. ... He was literally transported to Jerusalem... was able to see the body of Mother Mary ... Hope in Rome, some clues could be found to substantiate this event .... Milestone !!
I was listening to readings of the visions of St. Catherine of Emmerich. In one of them, she was recounting the last days of the Blessed Virgin Mary. She said that St. Thomas was late, arriving only after she had passed away and was buried, but I don't recall if it was after the Apostles discovered her body being assumed to heaven. Anyway, St. Catherine said that St. Thomas returned to India where he was killed by a spear, and that the spot where he died was on a stone that bore his knee marks. The visionary was a secluded nun living in the 18th century.
With all the existing traditions , I strongly believe that St Thomas was in India. Thank you for sharing the info.
I love the Miracle of Thomas the story of which you relate. It was so philosophical yet physical, proving nothing and everything. The Brahmins should have been flattered that it was given to them -- but it was a sword, dividing those able to accept it as an affirmance of One God from those to proud to accept the nullification of their traditions.
There was no Brahmins then and if they did get converted that means they didn’t give a shit about their caste or religion which I find very hard to believe
A Good Description - Thanks 🙏🌷❤️
It is essential to recognize that Kerala's identity has evolved over centuries, particularly following the development of the Malayalam language from ancient Tamil roots. This rich linguistic and cultural heritage provides context to historical events, including Thomas's visit to the region once part of the Chera Tamil Kingdom. Understanding this history can foster a greater appreciation for the diverse influences that have shaped Kerala's unique character.
India is blessed with Christian faith because Apostle Thomas paid a price to come all the way from Israel.
The literature regarding St Thomas and the church records were destroyed by the Portuguese priests as heretical, the Roman Catholic Church actually destroyed the indigenous Christian culture, the Roman Catholic Church has its own narrative to show that it's supreme.
The fact is there were Jewish community in the Southern India. Whether Thomas went to evangelise in the Southern India is inclusive.
there is a india man i met who told me the desendence of thomas live still in mumbi.
St. Thomas came to North of India starting from Edessa /Urfa via the euphrates tigris river route establishing churches in North of Iraq including Baghdad, South of Iraq in Basra, in what is now Iran, Afghanistan, what is now Pakistan and the northern parts of India and then he went back to Edessa /Urfa. Then he went to Egypt waited there for a ship to take him to south of India. He had written a book on his journey to India and it was discovered in St. Catherine's monastery in Egypt in the 18th century. The he found a ship that took him to the south of India and landed in kerala.
More more tell
Me more lies
In our our hurry to find out about history and geography of Thomas, may we not forget the teaching he brought to the world i.e the message of God, the Bible, that of the NAZARENE (Jesus Christ).
Bible ??? Hahaha , Mark was written after death of this so called St thomas, Bible was composed after 300 years of Jesus. Come on poopers
Crystal clear explanation with a beautiful accent!
Thank you! 😃 God bless
Makes no sense when Western scholars say that St.Thomas did not come to India....when the locals themselves proudly proclaim he did !! We trust the locals ... Godbless 🙏🏼
It was really Probable , because according to gospel of Matthew, the original 12 apostles were sent to preach to 12 tribes of Israel and it was said that many of the so- called 10 Lost Tribes of Israel migrated to India- Pakistan- Kashmir regions after the 10 tribes were exiled by Assyrians of Mesopotamia ... so the apostles Thomas and Bartholomew converted them in accordance to their mission given by Christ.... It is notable that there were NEW TESTAMENT SCRIPTURES in Malabar which were written in SYRIAC- PESHITTA which was a dialect of Aramaic
Yes, it seems that St. Thomas came to India from the various narratives.
Pray our Country is Blessed by St Thomas with prayers for Love Peace Unity, spiritual enlightenment filled with Happiness of India.
We know the very nice story of st.Thomas father thank you so much
That was a great presentation!
Glad you liked it!
Lots of research and hard work 😊. Was new info to me.
Glad you enjoyed it! 😊
He would be shocked if he did turn up today! I was. Christianity has changed in India ever since English was put on the back burner. Christianity in India is a strange mixture of anglicised tradition and local performance. It leaves those with an English background confused. Still , faith is in the eye of the beholder!
Great, Thats great information.. As mentioned Arikamedu is near Mylapore, Where is this Arikamedu located exactly ....and second Arikamedu is in Pondicherry which is also known Indi-Roman Trade Center... Pl reply
I can understand you worked hard to collect this information, appreciation.for your efforts.🤔
Good research on the subject matter, could also have included a short summary on the origins of the gospel of St.Thomas.
A good analysis- I like how various angles are explored.
I'm heavily convicted, and have been for years, that Saint Thomas came to Persia, Parthia & India, that the Christians Vasco de Gama met in the Kingdom of Calicut was Thomas's Church, and I'm also currently convicted that Saint Batholomew, Saint Pantænus & Saint Thomas of Kinayi all evangelized the Indian Subcontinent.
Very informative,
Lots of effort put in brother 👍
Thanks a ton...God Bless !!!
In Goa Agacaim a St. Thomas cross is found by Historian Fr. Cosme D'Costa whose birth also was a miracle to get sainthood to St. Jose Vaz from Goa. This cross is in Pillar Seminary museum.
It was a wonderful search to establish if St: Thomas had come to India to preach the gospel first। If we are confirmed that all other 11disciples went to 11 different country or places of the world, it surely be St Thomas who came and preach the gospel, because someone did it, as a general understanding।
Wonderful presentation! I certainly believe it!
Christians all over the world used to be called Nasrani by others before the term was coined in Antioch. But the Arabs continued to call them that. This may be why Christians in Malaysia are called Srani. This is why ISIS agents marked the houses of Assyrian and Chaldean Christians with the Arab letter "Noon" just before an invasion.
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The first recorded use of the term (or its cognates in other languages) is in the New Testament, in Acts 11 after Barnabas brought Saul (Paul) to Antioch where they taught the disciples for about a year, the text says that "the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch" (Acts 11:26).
Please read my brother's book, "The Mar Thoma story".
Thank you Fr. for this very concise exposure of the various theories that surround the arrival of St Thomas to India. I would prefer to think that he really did come to India but the question that lingers on my head is how did he get there?
Yes. He. Come. To. India🇮🇳. Kerala. 1ce.
I pray to St. Thomas and i am sure you will become a Christian. No one can stop it. Amen,your family becomes Christian Amen. We are Christian by St. Xavier. Our church is St. Thomas Church. From Thoothukudi Tamil Nadu INDIA ❤️ 🇮🇳.
This is a clear, cool analysis of the belief. I, though an agnost, believe that St. Thomas indeed came to India to spread the Gospel & was martyred on present day St. Thomas Mount.
Thank you for writing in..God Bless
Apostle Thomas came to pakistan first..The ruined chapel at sircap near Taxila is the clear evidence. The Quaide Azam university of pakistan accepts the sircap museum and the Chapel at sircap pakistan. Moreover the Baltistan university of pakistan too has found out the large kavardo cross at Skardu of pakistan
Wow... Fantastic to know so much more about St Thomas.... Great work Bro. Sumit.... Continue to keep inspiring... Sharing the Word
Thanks a ton bro !!!! All praise to God 😊
St. Thomas came to India, this is my strong feeling and may have assisted to preach Christianity in the south. As such the south Indians have a strong faith. Direct Apostle Connection,
Yes... St Thomas came to South India as an Aspostle and build a 7½ Churches. One of the ½Church builded at Thiruvithamcode,now rhis place is located at Tamilnadu, Kanyakumari Dist... 🙏
Mar Thoma came in search for lost 10 tribes who were longing for their messiah. All 7 churches he established were jewish colonies as per the local history, present day and archeological evidence includingthe copper plates granted to this community. We St.thomas Christians, eka Nazrani Christians of kerala, still worship in Suriyani, the native dielect of our messiah , jesus of Nazareth . Proud to be mar thoma nazrani .
Then y not go back to Syria , they waiting for u 😂
God seeks to gift faith. Satan and human nature seek to sow doubt. This video sows doubt through an open ended conclusion (lack of clear affirmative statement).
Faith and reason are both required, with faith being greater. Without faith, you cannot come into contact with God.
In the same way, the Bible and Catholic tradition (with vetting of Catholic Church) go hand in hand.
There is a reason the initial fathers of the church through prayer decided, the apocryphal book "Acts of Thomas" won't be a part of the Bible, because it was not from God (ie through divine intervention in part or full). Yet you use it as a reference. Why?
You also state that multiple Church Fathers (saints) clearly have written about St. Thomas evangelising India. For a true Catholic, we require no other proof. Yet, you have mentioned it as one among many theories.
Through reason we can see that, if Christians were present in present day region of Kerala before Portuguese settlers and St. Francis Xavier arrived in 15-16th century, where did they come from? They did not grow out from the soil.
Someone evangelised the region. All indicators (ancient churches, songs, prayers, Syrian rite, oral traditions) point to this. It wasn't Arab merchants, not Jewish migrators or even any ordinary evangelist. It had to be someone filled with the Holy Spirit. To baptise a whole region, and for such communities to survive through centuries is a work of the Hand of God.
If you cannot contribute to increasing faith in souls, you are not serving God or His Church. You are serving something else.
So my request is this. If you cannot share in spreading the faith, it is better to stay quiet, if your intent is to serve God. I say this with love.
Loved it....❤️
Brahmins were not in Kerala during the so called St. Thomas time. Prominent historians dispute the Brahmins theory. Pls comment.
Absolutely
What if there were a different group of people before the Brahmins reached what is today Kerala, who were performing the religious rites?
And they were the ones who were converted by St.Thomas?
The traditional description used the word namputhiri (നമ്പൂതിരി), and Brahmins might have replaced the namputhiri in performing the religious rites.
And may be they also were later called namputhiri?
thank you for this elaboration. .. nosrani are called by muslems to the christians as there were a christian jewish sect in arabia named naserrin , they were trying to reconcile the christianity with monotheistic view in Judaism. however in egypt , christians are called nasara witch is the pleural of nosrani , means believing in the one from Nazareth , where Jesus lived .. God bless your service dear father
God bless
Very interesting!
Thanks a lot Patricia 😊
My father's paternal grandparents were natives of Tamil Nadu and while I believe they were Hindu, I think my great grandmother took a more syncretistic approach to her religious practice. They believed that St Thomas came to India and I want to believe the same despite the lack of concrete evidence.
I am curious to know if there are there people in South India who practice a mix of Christianity and Hinduism.
I have heard that the Portuguese may have destroyed precious ancient palm leaf manuscripts in their 16th century attempts to make the more Hinduism-tolerant St Thomas Christianity of Kerala and Tamil Nadu, more closely resemble that of Rome. Does anyone have more information on this?
It is easy to see that the Catholic faith has struggled hard in India and have a feeling will not last much longer due to religious pressures both inside and outside the Faith. We now have a Pope that may the death nail to the Catholic Church. India has a rich history of philosophy and the Hindus bore some good examples of the best in virtues, loyalties, and stowic strengths that helped in conversions to Jesus because it was already built in them, making Christanity easy to take in. India can bear great minds to the Faith and may even save it from heresy if only the hardships of Politics can ease a bit, but that is in the deepest of wells unable too find water. Thank You So Much.
I believe Thomas came as in the wonderful video,"Out of India".
Thank st Thomas for binging faith in India n please pray for us
Good presentation with Justice to historical facts. One of the best on this subject. Loved it. Congratulations ❤
Thanks a lot for writing in..God bless
Thanks Bro for throwing further light on the topic.
Good ... Halleluia .. thank you for sharing this information ... When there is confusion ... Pray to Holy Spirit ... Who allow us to recall very many events ... With proofs , if tequired , to substantiate ... The truth of St. Thomas visit to India... Rely on HS ...Ave Maria
Very interesting bhai sabb ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
St Thomas mount Railway station is in chennai (Parangimalai) Tamilnadu. India -Church in the name of Thomas is there.
Interesting
Did they ever do modern generic study on the proported St. Thomas bones?
Thanks for writing in...In my study I haven't come across it. You would need to refer to other primary sources for that information.