Haha this is classic, love your work. As a Dad, people movers are brilliant. So much more space inside than a 7 seat SUV, typically more efficient, and typically a whole lot cheaper. 99.9% of people who bought an SUV, shouldn't have. Driving on grass and gravel for twenty metres to get to your campsite is not off-road, people. So I'm stoked to see this thing. If the three year depreciation is really 70% I'll be there in a few years.
The vehicle looked cavernous when you were by yourself but when the folks jumped on board the space looked bigger. I think it is a great idea to fill up the van with people when you get the opportunity. I wonder how it would be for VIP airport transfers?
I can tell you, The seat is very comfortable of ldv mifa 9, It can fully undertake the work of pick-up and drop-off ， Of course, it can be used as a commercial vehicle
Nice! I see it’s an SAIC who also own MG. I quite like the seat layout, it’s unusual as it’s usually 2-3-2 but I can see how 2-2-3 could work. I’m a family of five, with two sets of parents/grandparents, I’ve had many 5 seat and 7 seat MPV’s, and this looks to be a great competitor.
Great review. It handled really well for a people mover, and the ability to change directions quickly is extremely important in avoiding accidents. Sure it's not cheap, but it's nice to see people movers appearing on the EV market. It's just a shame it doesn't have Vehicle to Grid or a better Vehicle to appliance wattage rating. Seems like a waste of a 90 kw/h battery to me.
Love the Kiwi style laid back and funny review. Who would have thought you said you actually love driving a people mover. I reckon this thing is a good option for our tourism sector.
Great video of the 9 . Can't wait to test drive myself. Only problem is we are going to get the petrol version here in Australia first , just don't see the point of that. We have had a LDV G10 9 seater since 2016 and we love it. Great for people and towing. Keep smiling everyone. Do hope some folk from NZ get to the fullycharged show in Sydney
Agree great vid, interesting that you can get this in NZ for just the equivalent of A$65k (after rebate) yet media are reporting it starting at A$106k here in Aus, that's the equivalent of NZ$116k, what the?
Being a bit of a dag, the wombat model of the Toyota Tarago was one of my all time favourite ‘cars’. It was a space machine for transporting things and for camping. I can’t wait for an affordable electric equivalent. I’d be very happy to have an option without the clever bells and whistles that is cheaper.
Yes, mpv is often used for business reception in china ， But there are exceptions, There are many good husbands who drive their families out camping in it
I will buy the cheapest model and then transform it into a camper van. I'll add a single bed, a kitchen, and a computer desk, turning it into a mobile office and a makeshift rest area. There is no better camper van model than the one that doesn't require worrying about electricity.
Wow, this is a considerable downgrade from the versions sold in China. For a start, all Chinese versions come with a large infotainment display that span the entire width of the dashboard. Middle seats get infotainment displays, and interior is generously trimmed with Napa leather. Prices before EV rebates are 64000 to 95500 New Zealand dollars.
Ahhhhh yes, but as I stated when returning from Shanghai last time around. I’ll never ever complain about prices in New Zealand again’. Can’t believe we ever contemplated moving there………you can have it.
doesn't the car come with run flat tires? what's the efficiency on steady speed of 100 km/h? Is the radar adaptive cruise control really stop n go? thank you
The sporty driving test was not pointless. Chauffeurs love to drive fast around the corners when they have no passengers. Sometimes when they have passengers😄. As for family drivers, they'll hoon when the kids aren't in it
1000kg rated, but tow bar doesn't exist just yet. No word on price either. Average consumption was around 22 kWh/100km so expect to get about 400km in the real world.
I think this is one of these cars that looks big from outside but not that much room inside. If I had money, I would just get VW transporter and have lot more room inside and future proof practicality. Luggage space etc. Probably for the same money or less.
Brilliant…but I think I will buy 20 excellent used diesel SUVs for the same money. Cheaper to run as well. And I don’t need to spend three grand on installing 3-phase electricity so I can charge it adequately at home. I am an EV fan, and unfortunately the world has just changed in the last year so much as the energy cartel OPEC controls fossil fuel prices WITH MASSIVE TAXES on top, far better than our (UK) regulator/watchdog/waste-of-space officials control electricity and home cooking/heating ‘natural’ gas prices. OPEC is able to easily straddle the world, and apparently ride out any EV assault made on it. Big EGO (Electricity, Gas & Oil) are so powerfully in-charge and so embedded with governments, even without bribery and lobbying, it makes me sick. And yet, I can get an SUV that makes financial sense on the used market, 5 years old say, that is economically sensible to buy and run. I spent 3 months recently, trying to find a single small EV that makes sense for me to purchase so our daughter need only do an automatic-transmission driving test, and there is a solitary ancient i-MiEV on the market in the UK, and lots of pretty poor earlier Renault Zoe battery-lease vehicles too. SAME price as a lovely big comfortable SUV, but with only 50 miles range in winter due to heating requirements draining the battery! Hybrids, would be the best I could do, as I am not going to freeze just to be EV. And hybrids, have had their road tax discount here, chopped as of 2017 (April 1st, they were having a laugh), so now everyone buying a hybrid like me, who can only afford used, avoids vehicles registered after April 1st 2017…this is a mess that the energy price crisis (because there is an abundance of actual energy on or reaching the Earth, as you know better than I do!) has helped along. But our government here in the UK? No scrappage scheme, so my big diesel that’s broken still sits there, beyond economic repair. No assistance to adapt people’s homes to solar or wind - I mean, the UK is bursting with Universities, but no research and production of mini-turbines ever seems to take place…with our UK government, raking in more cash from the 60% tax on every gallon of fuel, AND tax now on home energy too (still not lifted despite the crisis), no changes are in their financial interest…which this govt sees as intertwined with their electoral chances in 18 months’ time, so that’s flaming that, set in stone. It’s pretty depressing all in all. I am glad somebody is able to deploy an EV to good effect, but it’s an EV desert out there, for the UK at least. Nothing economically viable is available by way of EV to replace my busted Volvo 5-pot. Lots of used and very usable diesels out there on the used market though, we are talking 50mpg without trying, for a small family car. I am hugely in favour of EVs, and desperately want them for the automatic non-manual gears changes (in fact as you know, non-existent gear changes for the most part!), but there’s nothing that makes financial sense. The sooner our government falls here in the UK, the better-off the planet will be. Foot-dragging back-of-the-class grifters, most of them, and worst are the upper echelon sat in the Cabinet meetings in Downing Street. 2023, is set to be a bigger disappointment than 2022 ever was, which is saying something. Anyway, chins up, take care all, be at peace in a troubled world.
interesting that it's called LDV in NZ. elsewhere it's called MAXUS. Same model from the CCP owned motor group SAIC though. morally i ain't touching anything that benefits those crooks but each to their own, hope other EV makers step up and bring out a MPV / People carrier/ 7 seater.
I really like your reviews but again I ask why you don’t include one of the most important factors Kiwis should be looking at when making which is probably the second largest investment they will make What is the total cost of ownership? At least there are some reviews that address this key consideration The most recent data indicates that these so called cheap Chinese evs are going to suffer huge depreciation compared to quality vehicles. The latest data pojects 70% depreciation in just three years for this vehicle and its buddies. Compare to a Tesla at only 25% Tesla keeps updating ALL there vehicles, similar to apple phones, while these vehicles will,always be stuck with the tech when it rolled off the lot Car reviewers really need to get into current tech instead of analysis based on grandma’s car
Looks like a copy of a Toyota Alphard or a Vellfire with yet more stuff added. By the time people work out how all this stuff works the trip is finished. Too much stuff and gadgets to break down over time. All those extras are built into the price as well making it unaffordable for the bigger percentage of the market. Gimmicky and good for an airport transfer vehicle only. The 150watts power point is useless. Really !!!! 150 Watts. Charge the razor maybe.
Alright don’t mean to be rude, but banging on about the low,purchase price because your Dutch really does not do any service to viewers. You have to identify short comings especially the huge depreciation that buyers will see on their investment. How the dodgy safety and drivers assist features passed government safety regs is astonishing.
Haha this is classic, love your work.
As a Dad, people movers are brilliant. So much more space inside than a 7 seat SUV, typically more efficient, and typically a whole lot cheaper. 99.9% of people who bought an SUV, shouldn't have. Driving on grass and gravel for twenty metres to get to your campsite is not off-road, people.
So I'm stoked to see this thing. If the three year depreciation is really 70% I'll be there in a few years.
The vehicle looked cavernous when you were by yourself but when the folks jumped on board the space looked bigger. I think it is a great idea to fill up the van with people when you get the opportunity.
I wonder how it would be for VIP airport transfers?
I can tell you, The seat is very comfortable of ldv mifa 9, It can fully undertake the work of pick-up and drop-off ， Of course, it can be used as a commercial vehicle
"Unlike Texas, it has a functioning electrical grid" If you were a boxer, you would have been handed a 3 year ban for cheap shots 🤣
Nice! I see it’s an SAIC who also own MG. I quite like the seat layout, it’s unusual as it’s usually 2-3-2 but I can see how 2-2-3 could work. I’m a family of five, with two sets of parents/grandparents, I’ve had many 5 seat and 7 seat MPV’s, and this looks to be a great competitor.
Great review. It handled really well for a people mover, and the ability to change directions quickly is extremely important in avoiding accidents. Sure it's not cheap, but it's nice to see people movers appearing on the EV market. It's just a shame it doesn't have Vehicle to Grid or a better Vehicle to appliance wattage rating. Seems like a waste of a 90 kw/h battery to me.
Love the Kiwi style laid back and funny review. Who would have thought you said you actually love driving a people mover. I reckon this thing is a good option for our tourism sector.
Another great review and road test Gavin,you are the right person for that job,you truly love your job and Electric vehicles.
Thanks Gavin, I am seriously looking to buy the LDV Mifa, your video made me determined!
Great video of the 9 . Can't wait to test drive myself. Only problem is we are going to get the petrol version here in Australia first , just don't see the point of that. We have had a LDV G10 9 seater since 2016 and we love it. Great for people and towing. Keep smiling everyone. Do hope some folk from NZ get to the fullycharged show in Sydney
Hoping to be at Fully Charged Live myself. Might see you there mate! -Gav
Agree great vid, interesting that you can get this in NZ for just the equivalent of A$65k (after rebate) yet media are reporting it starting at A$106k here in Aus, that's the equivalent of NZ$116k, what the?
Thanks for all your fantastic videos this year Gav. Love your informative, fun and great reviews and of course your Ellegro series too!
Thanks mate, you're very kind. Have a great 2023! -Gav
Love your work Gavin. Funny and informative.
Being a bit of a dag, the wombat model of the Toyota Tarago was one of my all time favourite ‘cars’. It was a space machine for transporting things and for camping. I can’t wait for an affordable electric equivalent. I’d be very happy to have an option without the clever bells and whistles that is cheaper.
In China the owners are usually driven around hence the high level of specs in the rear seats.
Yes, mpv is often used for business reception in china ， But there are exceptions, There are many good husbands who drive their families out camping in it
because of you i keep talking about ecotricity in israel all the time
I wish they would have a passenger talk system like in Hyundai and Kia models. Would be very useful for those people further back.
Good job Gavin,you have come a long way since driving a Citroen In the winter in Europe
Thanks, Michael! We're getting there! -Gav
@@EcotricityNZ And then the Boat story ,yes it is getting better and better
Excellent and not too pricey even for the premium model.
I am sure "Mr Zhous Dumplings" is very good but you must have right drove past "Royal City Dumpling & Noodle" which is my favorite.
i like ur voice plus ur presentation nice clean and to the point
Great review as usual Gav.
Great review!
I will buy the cheapest model and then transform it into a camper van. I'll add a single bed, a kitchen, and a computer desk, turning it into a mobile office and a makeshift rest area. There is no better camper van model than the one that doesn't require worrying about electricity.
With the same same spec to AU, how much it cheaper than? Coud you suggest the comparison table?
Wow, this is a considerable downgrade from the versions sold in China. For a start, all Chinese versions come with a large infotainment display that span the entire width of the dashboard. Middle seats get infotainment displays, and interior is generously trimmed with Napa leather. Prices before EV rebates are 64000 to 95500 New Zealand dollars.
Ahhhhh yes, but as I stated when returning from Shanghai last time around. I’ll never ever complain about prices in New Zealand again’. Can’t believe we ever contemplated moving there………you can have it.
doesn't the car come with run flat tires? what's the efficiency on steady speed of 100 km/h? Is the radar adaptive cruise control really stop n go? thank you
Bring it to Australia please.
OK, this might sound rude but it's not meant to be. Have you ever done and advanced driving courses?
Saic, bring this to the UK, please….
I like Mifa9 Very good
The sporty driving test was not pointless. Chauffeurs love to drive fast around the corners when they have no passengers. Sometimes when they have passengers😄. As for family drivers, they'll hoon when the kids aren't in it
What was the average consumption and is it rated to tow? Sorry if I missed it.
1000kg rated, but tow bar doesn't exist just yet. No word on price either. Average consumption was around 22 kWh/100km so expect to get about 400km in the real world.
need a stripped out tradie version of this, please LDV!!!!
Here these comes with massage and air seats + much more
I think this is one of these cars that looks big from outside but not that much room inside. If I had money, I would just get VW transporter and have lot more room inside and future proof practicality. Luggage space etc. Probably for the same money or less.
In China, rich people aren't driven in Mercedes S class, but in luxury MPVs.
Starting to see a lot of Chinese ev's around Palmy. Incumbents don't see the disruption coming:- Tony Seba. Toyota is still in complete denial.
Yep, listen to a few lectures from Tony Seba and all will be revealed...
It more expensive in Australia every model of this people mover. It will not sell well if they don't revise these prices.
Diesel version to Europe please
Can't see the third row with arm rest
Now just waiting for a non luxury one for 4
$60k
the Diesel GWM Ute Does all this for $45.000 and more so for Ev Mode and 2 extra seats $ 40.000
So , they make a family van the average family could never afford 🤔 Who was asking for this?
😂
Looks great! However, I'd pick a second-hand Alphard over this anytime for a similar price.
I like it, it’s so big lady in back could lay down
Price in NZD ?
I guessed Taupo!
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
These things are not cheap in UK
Nothing’s cheap in the U.K., we’re not called ripoff Britain for nothing.
Thumbs up for the POTATO!
Brilliant…but I think I will buy 20 excellent used diesel SUVs for the same money. Cheaper to run as well. And I don’t need to spend three grand on installing 3-phase electricity so I can charge it adequately at home. I am an EV fan, and unfortunately the world has just changed in the last year so much as the energy cartel OPEC controls fossil fuel prices WITH MASSIVE TAXES on top, far better than our (UK) regulator/watchdog/waste-of-space officials control electricity and home cooking/heating ‘natural’ gas prices. OPEC is able to easily straddle the world, and apparently ride out any EV assault made on it.
Big EGO (Electricity, Gas & Oil) are so powerfully in-charge and so embedded with governments, even without bribery and lobbying, it makes me sick. And yet, I can get an SUV that makes financial sense on the used market, 5 years old say, that is economically sensible to buy and run. I spent 3 months recently, trying to find a single small EV that makes sense for me to purchase so our daughter need only do an automatic-transmission driving test, and there is a solitary ancient i-MiEV on the market in the UK, and lots of pretty poor earlier Renault Zoe battery-lease vehicles too. SAME price as a lovely big comfortable SUV, but with only 50 miles range in winter due to heating requirements draining the battery! Hybrids, would be the best I could do, as I am not going to freeze just to be EV.
And hybrids, have had their road tax discount here, chopped as of 2017 (April 1st, they were having a laugh), so now everyone buying a hybrid like me, who can only afford used, avoids vehicles registered after April 1st 2017…this is a mess that the energy price crisis (because there is an abundance of actual energy on or reaching the Earth, as you know better than I do!) has helped along. But our government here in the UK? No scrappage scheme, so my big diesel that’s broken still sits there, beyond economic repair. No assistance to adapt people’s homes to solar or wind - I mean, the UK is bursting with Universities, but no research and production of mini-turbines ever seems to take place…with our UK government, raking in more cash from the 60% tax on every gallon of fuel, AND tax now on home energy too (still not lifted despite the crisis), no changes are in their financial interest…which this govt sees as intertwined with their electoral chances in 18 months’ time, so that’s flaming that, set in stone. It’s pretty depressing all in all. I am glad somebody is able to deploy an EV to good effect, but it’s an EV desert out there, for the UK at least.
Nothing economically viable is available by way of EV to replace my busted Volvo 5-pot. Lots of used and very usable diesels out there on the used market though, we are talking 50mpg without trying, for a small family car. I am hugely in favour of EVs, and desperately want them for the automatic non-manual gears changes (in fact as you know, non-existent gear changes for the most part!), but there’s nothing that makes financial sense.
The sooner our government falls here in the UK, the better-off the planet will be. Foot-dragging back-of-the-class grifters, most of them, and worst are the upper echelon sat in the Cabinet meetings in Downing Street. 2023, is set to be a bigger disappointment than 2022 ever was, which is saying something. Anyway, chins up, take care all, be at peace in a troubled world.
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Fartment!!!!!!
Yikes looks like you need to educate people on how to wear a seatbelt! In this day and age ? Remarkable.
interesting that it's called LDV in NZ. elsewhere it's called MAXUS. Same model from the CCP owned motor group SAIC though. morally i ain't touching anything that benefits those crooks but each to their own, hope other EV makers step up and bring out a MPV / People carrier/ 7 seater.
He says this as thezz.
Definitely needs Android auto.
I really like your reviews but again I ask why you don’t include one of the most important factors Kiwis should be looking at when making which is probably the second largest investment they will make
What is the total cost of ownership?
At least there are some reviews that address this key consideration
The most recent data indicates that these so called cheap Chinese evs are going to suffer huge depreciation compared to quality vehicles. The latest data pojects 70% depreciation in just three years for this vehicle and its buddies. Compare to a Tesla at only 25%
Tesla keeps updating ALL there vehicles, similar to apple phones, while these vehicles will,always be stuck with the tech when it rolled off the lot
Car reviewers really need to get into current tech instead of analysis based on grandma’s car
Teslas are garbage
Looks like a copy of a Toyota Alphard or a Vellfire with yet more stuff added. By the time people work out how all this stuff works the trip is finished. Too much stuff and gadgets to break down over time. All those extras are built into the price as well making it unaffordable for the bigger percentage of the market. Gimmicky and good for an airport transfer vehicle only. The 150watts power point is useless. Really !!!! 150 Watts. Charge the razor maybe.
Alright don’t mean to be rude, but banging on about the low,purchase price because your Dutch really does not do any service to viewers. You have to identify short comings especially the huge depreciation that buyers will see on their investment. How the dodgy safety and drivers assist features passed government safety regs is astonishing.
Since when has a vehicle EVER been and investment
😂😂😂 is this abomination a joke??
Seems the same as Nissan Serena