I just imagine the last guy thinking "Oh man I've nearly wiped him out, just gotta keep the pressure and finish him off--" And then he sees the map afterwards and realized just how many bases you took
Precisely what I've been thinking. I believe 3 tempests and a few stalkers to protect them would've been unstoppable. Canons on the edges of the base felt so trivial also.
There was a challenge I was thinking about, but I'm not a SC2 player, so I don't know if it is feasible. Challenge: Marc plays Terran against whatever opponent level he wants, but, he cannot own more than 1 Command Center. He can win by defeating his opponent until he GGs. His opponent wins by destroying Marc's Command Center, and forces Marc to GG. Therefore, it will be vital for Marc to protect his CC at all costs. This would be a sort of Capture the Flag type of challenge. Feel free to apply any bonuses or penalties you want to make it interesting, or keep all units the same. Whatever you want. Thoughts? 🤔
This wouldn't work. One base builds in SC2 are VERY strong and often require an incredibly specific defense(think 2-rax mauraders or proxy reapers). The opponent would still need something else to balance the game.
This doesn't work as a challenge concept. All you're doing is forcing Marc to win with a 1 base all-in, which he's already capable of doing even against grandmasters. If he doesn't win on the spot, he'll fall behind and eventually lose due to not being able to expand his economy. "Protecting his CC at all costs" is never a relevant factor.
Marc coaching a Gold/Platinum player to beat higher ranks would be fun to see! Or Goblin coaching and Marc defending. Thanks always for your content! A highlight of the day.
I suck at Starcraft2 and those guys would probably beat me... however with that handicap I think I would have beat you and forced you to add an extra rule... As I would have simply massed Marines in both cases and not be shy about sending them to their deaths. With such a handicap, it's best not to overthink.
100% agree. They're acting like Marc is the one with the buffed units. Spotter marines with 300 health scout for a REALLY long time. Also base racing when your buildings have 5x the HP is, as you can imagine, quite the winning move
Maybe silver but if you’re gold you should at least have the beginning part of the build order down to five seconds accurate. Literally send your first unit across and Uthermal would have to lose 12 SCVs just to defend.
I do feel like both games, his opponents did not play to their buffs, the lack of tanks to shut down reaper aggression early in game 2. The lack of expansions in either game. They were playing like thermal would with a two base all in. But forgot the all in an/or macro game.
Just get a basic army together and A-move, no? These players seem terrified of attacking Marc, but farting around until he has 5 deeply fortified bases and 10 ghost academies is clearly a losing strategy.
I feel like 500% hp terran could have won by building infinite marines, no? Marine's biggest weakness is that they're too squishy to close against an army with bigger range, and their individual damage is low, but with that much hp, I feel like they'd just outlast basically anything in a trade, no? Sprinkle in some ravens for vision, or just a bunch of orbitals, and 3/3, and you have a crazy efficient army that you can remax over and over in very little time? I am legitimately bronze (or, like, wood) league so maybe I'm way off base
What other numbers can you change? Would love to see Zerg with a money multiplier and higher supply cap. Even better if you can make their eggs produce double units.
uthermal! I finally have constructive criticism because usually your perfect. You dont need to cut away from games like the first one. It is so fun for us to watch when you have the upper-hand due to big braining the opponent. Just feedback. Thanks for all the great content.
I think the ladder would be way more interesting if I could fight higher MMR players but they got a penalty like this. It would also help with smurfing.
I would love change stats like unit health and damage like this myself for my own games vs AI and friends. Can someone please tell me what is, and where to get the mod uthermal uses for these vids. Thanks in advance
(this is a silly post not to be taken seriously) You guys know what I hate about that uTharmal guy? He such a liar. Here he is, showing off this really cool fun game - and when me and my 120 APM goes onto ladder it's just me getting my sht pushed in for 240 minutes straigth! Liar I say! (Nah I love you, thank you for all the good times you give me :))
Hey marc, love the content as always .. after seeing this ~ I would like 2 ask u (if that is even possible) 2 play me in a 1v1 but im playing koop zagara(prestige2) since i have 0 games online played but like 300~ koop games if i had 2 guess. If that sounds boring 2 u or smthng else thats totally fine too :)
The gold matches are a bit eh because their strats are so bad. Like they need a coach or something. 5x hp and going medi marine tank is close to optimally bad. Just a higher rank giving them a build plan would have turned both of those matches.
That's exactly the point of the handicap, otherwise such challenges would be impossible. Since their unities are buffed, there must be weaknesses to be exploited. If their strats and macro were great, they wouldn't be gold players.
I mean yeah? Dude had 1 voidray, 5 probes and no production against 5 bases with planetaries and turrets setup. Marc could have afkd for a few minutes and still been fine.
I just imagine the last guy thinking "Oh man I've nearly wiped him out, just gotta keep the pressure and finish him off--"
And then he sees the map afterwards and realized just how many bases you took
uThermal + Goblin vs 10 Bronze with 2x hp and 2x damage might be the perfect version of this format :D
That would mean their units are x4 stronger, and then there are 2 of them. It would be like expecting 5 bronze player to beat 4 pros 😭
@@oldschooloverlord I think the implication is that uThermal and Goblin are normal (x1, x1) vs 10 bronze who are x2 x2 so it'd be 2 pros vs 40 bronze
@Dawindell He meant uthermal and goblin have x2 x2. I feel like the bronze players having it is without a doubt impossible.
Void ray was hilarious
Now we submit the replay to Harstem and say that Terran is IMBA
hahahahahaha
Lore friendly protoss be like:
I was thinking the same thing a protos zealot should be able to dismantle a tack running by it with a charge or two
War of the Worlds:
Apparently you found the only Protoss in the world allergic to cannons and zealots...
Me? :0
He was obviously going easy on him. Did not even harass with scout probe
@@aurorasun-qs1pg That's one of the first things said is that he can't worker rush or harass because it would be broken.
Imagine if the gold player had just built cannons at home, sent in a few zealots while going 2 base tempests
Precisely what I've been thinking. I believe 3 tempests and a few stalkers to protect them would've been unstoppable. Canons on the edges of the base felt so trivial also.
@@KevinLaporte-uw1ub I too immediately thought "tempests = gg" and for the second game I'd go to oracles right away.
The toss was obviously not trying to make it obvious he was throwing, and chatting like he's trying to become buddies.
There was a challenge I was thinking about, but I'm not a SC2 player, so I don't know if it is feasible.
Challenge: Marc plays Terran against whatever opponent level he wants, but, he cannot own more than 1 Command Center. He can win by defeating his opponent until he GGs. His opponent wins by destroying Marc's Command Center, and forces Marc to GG. Therefore, it will be vital for Marc to protect his CC at all costs.
This would be a sort of Capture the Flag type of challenge. Feel free to apply any bonuses or penalties you want to make it interesting, or keep all units the same. Whatever you want.
Thoughts? 🤔
This wouldn't work. One base builds in SC2 are VERY strong and often require an incredibly specific defense(think 2-rax mauraders or proxy reapers). The opponent would still need something else to balance the game.
This doesn't work as a challenge concept. All you're doing is forcing Marc to win with a 1 base all-in, which he's already capable of doing even against grandmasters. If he doesn't win on the spot, he'll fall behind and eventually lose due to not being able to expand his economy. "Protecting his CC at all costs" is never a relevant factor.
Marc coaching a Gold/Platinum player to beat higher ranks would be fun to see! Or Goblin coaching and Marc defending.
Thanks always for your content! A highlight of the day.
Can't believe you are not even going to introduce us to the cat in your cam at 1:51 ... Love the vids though, keep it up Marc :)
Dang, good thing I get up early for work.
I suck at Starcraft2 and those guys would probably beat me... however with that handicap I think I would have beat you and forced you to add an extra rule...
As I would have simply massed Marines in both cases and not be shy about sending them to their deaths. With such a handicap, it's best not to overthink.
100% agree. They're acting like Marc is the one with the buffed units. Spotter marines with 300 health scout for a REALLY long time. Also base racing when your buildings have 5x the HP is, as you can imagine, quite the winning move
Maybe silver but if you’re gold you should at least have the beginning part of the build order down to five seconds accurate. Literally send your first unit across and Uthermal would have to lose 12 SCVs just to defend.
I do feel like both games, his opponents did not play to their buffs, the lack of tanks to shut down reaper aggression early in game 2. The lack of expansions in either game. They were playing like thermal would with a two base all in. But forgot the all in an/or macro game.
Love the idea that a lower player becomes the raid boss.. just missing some visuals like bigger scale for the contender as a raidboss :D
Funny series you made, I feel like this is how Protoss’s should be strength wise anyway lol
more of these please! So fun to watch
I wanted to see high templar auto-attack in this mod . Great content
Just get a basic army together and A-move, no? These players seem terrified of attacking Marc, but farting around until he has 5 deeply fortified bases and 10 ghost academies is clearly a losing strategy.
Hellion drive byes would hurt so much.
This is great! Would love to see the same thing for higher league opponents as well! Maybe 3x plat?
Great series 😆 I like the idea of you and Goblin vs e.g. 6 buffed opponents..
Great episode, you sir are a beast!
Beat a bronze player using only High Templar auto attacks. 🤭
I feel like 500% hp terran could have won by building infinite marines, no? Marine's biggest weakness is that they're too squishy to close against an army with bigger range, and their individual damage is low, but with that much hp, I feel like they'd just outlast basically anything in a trade, no? Sprinkle in some ravens for vision, or just a bunch of orbitals, and 3/3, and you have a crazy efficient army that you can remax over and over in very little time? I am legitimately bronze (or, like, wood) league so maybe I'm way off base
A humble offering for the almighty algorithm.
What other numbers can you change? Would love to see Zerg with a money multiplier and higher supply cap. Even better if you can make their eggs produce double units.
This is a the most winnable and fair kind of challenge but it's hard to watch units doing basically no damage. Like it hurts lol.
finally a Protoss balanced enough to win some majors!
FIANLLY!!!! The races are balanced! Protoss really needs this buff normally
If the first guy built two cannons and just good old Voids/Carriers, he would have won easily xD
I would have liked to see if him trying to stop a half way decent cannon rush with 500% hp, don't think he would have a chance.
uthermal! I finally have constructive criticism because usually your perfect. You dont need to cut away from games like the first one. It is so fun for us to watch when you have the upper-hand due to big braining the opponent. Just feedback. Thanks for all the great content.
a 2v2 where a each team has a player with boosted life and a player with boosted dmg
I would REALLY like to participate, where can I sign in for this?
Finally a slightly more realistic Protoss lol
Play vs diamond player but he produces campaign mercenary units instead
what mod is used to buff the units?
As an unranked player I just want to comment that this is super mega awesome before I watch it
Hello. What is this mod you are using in this game and can I use it in bot games? And how to do it?
Awh really wanted to see 2000 hp thor or bc blink in
Imagine a bc rush or carrier rush... **homer simpson drool**😅
I think the ladder would be way more interesting if I could fight higher MMR players but they got a penalty like this. It would also help with smurfing.
Would be a interesting way to test builds and train apm. Give the ability to go from 5x to 1x , could be fun.
NO, just no
@@EndofTimeGaming-m9s great arguments
I did that mistake and didn't build up more bases lol GG
1st match ended with a void ray victory XD
the value!
do 500 percent speed
I'd love to see a 500 vs a Zerg)
The guys are just too afraid to go any sort of early harassment/aggression against uThermal even with 5x benefit
does anyone know what this mod is called? I would really like this to balance out the games with my friends.
I would love change stats like unit health and damage like this myself for my own games vs AI and friends. Can someone please tell me what is, and where to get the mod uthermal uses for these vids. Thanks in advance
Why you quit that first game? Maybe that void beats you :X
without watching: if they cant beat you this way they should be demoted to bronze or lower...
That unit skin is amazing
i'm surprised pf rush wasnt banned in 5x hp but I bet if someone did it would be banned
I don't understand why they just don't go mass marines and attack.
Try some 2v2 games with any or all of these buffs
Whats the name of the mod, id like to try a 1vs7 ai challenge myself :)
Am i the only thinking whats the max damage output of a nuke?
Ooooooooooo I like this idea A LOT!
500% HP + 500% Attack against a Silver player. xD
Ghosts, the video
"Narrator" HAHAHAHA
Can you try a zombie mod? 😊
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm pretty sus to quit game 1 after the final boss appeared!? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Great Job👍👍👍
As a Gold player. These players are throwing for content.
Try against extra fast zerg
(this is a silly post not to be taken seriously)
You guys know what I hate about that uTharmal guy? He such a liar.
Here he is, showing off this really cool fun game -
and when me and my 120 APM goes onto ladder
it's just me getting my sht pushed in for 240 minutes straigth!
Liar I say!
(Nah I love you, thank you for all the good times you give me :))
Hey marc, love the content as always .. after seeing this ~ I would like 2 ask u (if that is even possible) 2 play me in a 1v1 but im playing koop zagara(prestige2) since i have 0 games online played but like 300~ koop games if i had 2 guess. If that sounds boring 2 u or smthng else thats totally fine too :)
why no 2000 HP BCs?! All in all I am really disappointed by the strategic choices of our gold homies. reaper, vikings into BCs for instance.
its work only bc he is gold zerg can end u 2.30 with 5x stronger zerglings
Yeah boy love the vids
These gold players are npc’s
wild
I’m sorry but that terran was definitely not gold. Wood league more like
The gold matches are a bit eh because their strats are so bad. Like they need a coach or something. 5x hp and going medi marine tank is close to optimally bad. Just a higher rank giving them a build plan would have turned both of those matches.
That's exactly the point of the handicap, otherwise such challenges would be impossible. Since their unities are buffed, there must be weaknesses to be exploited. If their strats and macro were great, they wouldn't be gold players.
@@liojc I think it'd be more fun to see him just outplay them rather than bad strat gg. Or just play vs plat/dia with less of a buff
@ He might do that too, or even already did.
didn't finish the first game..? really? "oh it's so obvious that I'm just gonna win" sure jan.
I mean yeah? Dude had 1 voidray, 5 probes and no production against 5 bases with planetaries and turrets setup. Marc could have afkd for a few minutes and still been fine.
@@aMANnamedChris70 Voidrays attack air and ground. A little micro while using their nexus hotkey and I could rebuild from that if I have 5x damage
OMG, Love it!\
I think it shoudl be Uthermal+ goblin + Clem + Reynor (4 person archon mode) 1 v2 low gms
Golden brothers, rise up!