Sony RX10 Hands-On Field Test
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- Опубліковано 26 лис 2013
- Sony's RX series cameras have been some of the most interesting compact cameras vailable, and they've just added very unconventional super-zoom style camera to the mix. The Camera Store's Chris Niccolls takes a look at this cool little camera with a few tricks up its sleeve.
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Filmed on the Sony RX10 - Наука та технологія
Thanks to you and your crew, Chris. Your camera reviews are really informative and enjoyable. You do a great job.
Another good review guys.
Thanks for the great review on the RX10. It made the decision for me to purchase one, and I must say I have no regrets. The difference it has made to the quality of my channel's videos is astounding. Thanks so much.
Great video review guys!! And always great to see Jordan get some video face time! Now you got me wondering about picking up a RX10!!
I really like the impartiality about your reviews with all the "Goods And Bads". Keep up the good works guys and thank you for the video!
Glad someone finally did a good review on this camera. Was intrigued when they announced it, just waiting to test one out!
Just bought this camera and wanted to mention the firmware upgrade addresses some of the codec issues. Firmware updates for the RX10 now enable shooting 60p/30p/24p and 120p movies in the XAVC S format which supports higher 50 Mbit/s bit rate. Slow motion 120p capture is supported at 1280 x 720.
Once the video started, I could not stop watching. Well done guys.
Just found you guys....so glad I did. Fantastic review! Great information, flow, personality and style.
This guy is the best in showing cameras reviews
Just perfect, thanks
Hi Guys ! Two things: What a great video production. You guys really delivered! You covered all the important stuff with nice fact of the matter and humorous ways! Thank you. I was really having issues picking up a second hand rx10 and finally gave up but your vid got me back into looking. I will have to look up if the rx10 II upgraded from avchd... thanks again!!
+John Graboski The original RX10 actually had a firmware update that upgraded the camera to 50Mbps XAVC-S recording. The RX10 II added 4K, high frame rates and a better EVF.
Jordan @ TCSTV
Great review, as always. Thanks for dragging Jordan out from behind the video camera to give us a review of the video features! As someone who shoots a fair amount of video, I really appreciate that! :)
Another great review. It would have been nice with some low light examples at 1600+ iso, but other than that you always seem to cover all the important stuff. I love how you manage to stay objective no matter what you test, and not shamelessly promote your favorite camera/brand which some of the reviewers do (typically "well, this camera is good but it's no Nikon xxx). Keep it up!
Thanks! Very well done and very informative. I look forward to more.
Great video guys ! This makes me wanna by the RX100M2 even more haha :) Already got a few Full Frame Nikons and I would simply need a pocketable camera and seeing the image quality of this sensor is just amazing! Thanks for the review
Great Review. I have watched about a dozen reviews and you are the first one to mention the threaded release shutter button. - A Canadian living in Philadelphia.
Fantastic review again! Great job!
you guys make the best camera review videos
I know absolutely nothing about cameras but this videos are really interesting. looks like a cool hobby to get into
Great video as always guys.
Dont get confused people, this may say 2.8 on the lens, but Full Frame equiv aperture is actually f7.5.
But you you are town between this and a dSLR for example Canon 700D with 18-135mm f3.5-5.6, its Full Frame equiv is 28-216mm f5.6-8.9.
So if your not thinking of buying other lenses then the RX10 is better in low light at the long end! Not so much at the wide end, but you are getting 24mm with RX10 instead of 28mm!
One of the best introductions of Jordan in a video lol I forgot about this video and just reminded myself when I was investigating the new RX10 II. I assume you guys will review that at some point. It looks like they finally addressed that codec issue. Should be a cool camera.
Hi, great video. You're reviews are the best. At around 10:15 you guys mention the possible "smearing" in the RX10's video... since this was shot, I think Sony did a firmware upgrade replacing the RX10's avchd codec with xavc 50mbps. Did you test this yet, and did it effectively cure this smearing phenomenon? Also, do you think the RX100mkIII has identical video quality in a smaller package (since I don't care about the extended focal length, constant aperture or mic jack since I shoot video of interiors exclusively at widest focal length)?
BTW, what wireless lavalier system do you use (and is it recorded in the camera or auxiliary recorder)? The audio is really excellent. Thanks.
Thanks for an excellent film and review.
Thanks! Really hoping you will be reviewing the MKII version when it comes out in August 2015. I might get that over a Sony PXW-70 for ENG type work.
great review dude, I just got the camera, any settings you would recommend for using for an interview, what settings did you guys use when you shot this video?
I swear it seems like when I watch a TCSTV episode it's *always* cold and snowing in Calgary.
One thing I like about your channel is your location - lots of natural countryside compared to the cityscape I usually see around
i start by saying i've seen many of your reviews and are certainly well done. kudos to you and the team behind the scenes. i appreciate your comprehensive analysis and feedback with enough detail to draw our own opinions.
question: in the beginning, chris mentions this video was completely filmed with an rx10 and it pans to jordan waving hello. i saw the wireless mic connection on the external flash show, but also noticed jordan is wearing earbuds. i thought this camera did not have a headphone port. please confirm.
cheers!
The Sony RX10mk-II is already available on the market but so far I don’t see any review YET from TheCameraStoreTV
Can't wait for you to review the Sony RX10 II
Realy good review, thanks..
Looks like Sony fixed that codec issue with a firmware update. Now the camera can shoot XAVC S!
Thanks for the great review. One question though: is it somewhere close to what a NEX-6 with f4 16-70 Zeiss lens would achieve? because price and size-wise it's pretty close...
Chris is king of the casual sweater/ coat
Awesome review as usual! I would love to hear Jordan's thoughts on the RX10's video capabilities now that the new firmware has been released which includes XAVC S for 120fps at 720p and 60fps at 1080p. Unless you want 4K, the RX10 seems like a no brainer for quick grab and go video stuff.
Jonathan Beals good point
Even better. How about a review of the RX10 II?
The only thing missing in this review is how it performs indoors in low light. Thanks
What's the audio setup that you are using when you are shooting this video? Thanks for your reviews - honest and interesting!
Nice review
Nice review!
This might be the all-in-one that replaces my D600 and all it's bulk :) . I'm just waiting on some samples or reviews on how it handles light action(kids soccer, etc) and indoor portraits shots.
Another great review.
Nice work guys! I like the idea that the camera man talks about video capabilities. I have a question: Can you please tell me that if Chris's Nikon bag is a real Nikon one or its a 3rd party "Naikon"? If it is a Nikon one , can you tell me its exact name? Thanks in advance, and sorry for my english!
Hi there - really loved your review of the RX10. I am having trouble deciding which will be best for me as they are both really close in performance. I would like to use the camera more for movies and photos as secondary. RX10 or 70D?
thanks for the great review. here is a rx10 and nex5N side-by-side comparison video test. you might be surprised by the result.
sony rx10 video comparison with Nex 5N 16-50mm kit lens
This was a great review.
I've heard mixed/vague info on the 'water/dust resistance'--how robust is it compared to the pentax k50?
Jordan, how would you say the AVCHD codec compares with the one that Canon uses? I have a Canon right now and I'm considering a Sony for a B cam.
Thanks guys for your video! How responsive is the focus while shooting video? ...(say compared to the phase detection of the Nikon 1 V2)? Does it hunt with contrast detection or is it too quick to notice? Is it parfocal or at least gives a parfocal effect with fast continuous autofocus during a zoom? I just received the power zoom (good quality but not constant aperture without some exposure flicker unfortunately) for my V2 from your store at a TERRIFIC price - thanks for the quick shipment to Saskatoon! Wanting to do 4K quick bursts RAW video but wishing I had the RX10's zoom with that! Or a constant f/1.8 Sigma manual zoom lens upgrade with the adapter if PDAF works well with that to cover fast action.
Danke für das Video.
Great informations - Thanks for your very good job - greetings from germany
thanks for the review :)
Now what setup to choose between rx10 or nex6 + SEL1870z ? Or even a7 (ok that one is not in the same range price, but for video, not even sure it's better). So which one has the best image quality ? Nex or Rx10 ?
Hi please recommend me some wireless microphone system for Sony RX-10. What model you used in this video presentation. This video was the reason which push me to bye this photo camera, thanks for that.
Hey guys! I mostly shoot with primes but i have to do some indoors arena hockey games shooting from time to time. Would this be a good and cheap option in regards to low light capabilities..? Thanks!
Hi ,
Thanks for the review.
Years and months after how do you compare this camera with other rivals in the same 1"-20MP Sensor - Bridge/Superzoom?
Can you make a review comparing features, video and stills quality for:
- Canon Powershot G3 X (it's a mark II is coming?)
- Panasonic Lumix FZ1000 mark II / Leica V-Lux 5
- Panasonic Lumix FZ2000/2500 (3000/3500 soon?)
- Sony RX10 Mark IV (Mark V soon?)
Do you know if other companies like Nikon will upgrade their offer with cameras in the same range?
Like a Nikon Coolpix CX (1" sensor), or a coolpix B800 CX sensor?
Other companies see to have give up for this segment : Fuji, Pentax, Olympus...
Thanks.
The RX10 vs the VG30? Does the RX10 have overheating issues like the NEX-5n?
My immediate reaction to the idea was a Sony R1 revival, but then started thinking a 'Roided Minolta A1/A2... It not only fits the 'Roided Minolta A1/A2 idea, but far exceeded what I was anticipating. Having a large bodied camera, housing automated + manual control, AND legit versatility of stills and video (though I too question, the AVCHD codec choice), really epitomes All-In-One. The price tag is UPP, but that Zeiss badging will do it.
I wouldn't personally go for it, but I'm happy Sony made it... And yes, I do own an A1 :)
Hello...
can i request to you, for make one video product review on Sony DCS HX400v.
thanks in advance.
Forgot to mention the built-in optical stabilization.
Which no doubt helps with picture and, especially, video quality.
Good review. What 3.5mm mic was used on RX10!
Very useful, informative review.
2 questions:
1) was the sound recorded separately and synced in post?
2) is the codec likely to be updated in a firmware update? Seems some people are less than impressed with avchd.
Thanks for watching!
1) The sound was captured on a Sony UWP-130 wireless system and recorded directly into the RX10.
2) It's possible, I'd love to see Sony add support for the XAVC-S codec, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
i use to have the @230 @33 @77.Taking pics is quite an issue compared to my canon 60d.once u press the shutter u have to hold really still for a moment longer compared to canon or u might just end up having a blur pic. but i really really love sony for its video recording. capabilities.super fast auto focus n rich colour playback. For photo shoots, i will have to stick to canon.
Great review as usual, thanks. Here's my current problem. I became interested in the RX100 line a few months ago and bought a M2 just before the M3 came out. Of course, now I would rather have the M3. Many say just bite the bullet and upgrade to the M3, but I think the M2 will work OK for me as a pocket camera as I bounce around here in Hawaii. My main older camera is the Nikon D90 with a couple of lenses, including 70-300mm which is fine for the far off shots. Soooo, rather than upgrade the M2 to M3, I'm thinking the RX10 would be a better choice, especially for shots here on the farm (Kona Coffee Plantation). All the reviews I have read rave about it for amateurs like me. Big question now is - is Sony in the process of upgrading RX10 so I don't get stuck with last years model, or should I buy now? Thanks for responding ...
Nice one guys, been sniffing around this camera, but it's that AVCHD that puts me off, Whyyyyyyy!!!! At least they could have used h.264? I was just wondering what wireless mic you were using, sounds nice? Thanks!
If what you want is h.264 compression, then rejoice: the AVCHD format uses the h.264 codec for compression :-)
hello ;) or the application tab?? time-lapse...
can anyone recommend a good camera for making a documentary? im on a budget so i cant afford the 5D mark 2 as much as i wish i could. For around £500 whats a good camera?
Is the Audio in the video also recorded with the RX10 and a mic on it? Or did you recorded it external?
Nice camera and I think it will work on a Pilotfly H2 gimbal.
can i create an s-log profile on this camera?
Great review as always. Do you think you could do a Pentax k-3 review sometime? That would be greatly appreciated.
We posted our K-3 review last month! Go, watch and enjoy!
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
Awesome review. Is it just me or did he forget to say something about the build quality and weather sealing?
Sony is really stepping up their game.
I think in a nutshell this camera is a portable street camera with crazy video & image quality. It doesn't screen nature camera with the limited zoom. I can't wait to see if Panasonic comes out with a bigger sensor zoom camera like this with the zoom capabilities of the FZ200. Great reviews as always guys & Happy Thanksgiving :)
Olympus has already made one
I have never liked the colors that come from Olympus cameras. Panasonic always seem to do a better job in my personal opinion. I know the Olympus Stylus 1 is already out but the video mode from Olympus is awful.
Olympus is famous for their jpeg colours. The em-5 is loved for it. With video you have a very good point. The compression is just too much in Olympus bodies. They are improving pretty fast though.
Excelente reseña , estoy pesando en cambiar mi hx9v por esta.
I dreamed this camera so long...but im my dreams it was a Canon. Btw this could be a nice "run & gun" for videomakers
If you want a lens with 200mm and f2.8 its gonna be expensive and huge. This is a good camera. Im also suprised about the AF.
great video as always guys - just feel sorry for you guys in that cold weather - I am glad you are not letting that affect you -
So the question is what will Panasonic do ? if they come out with a 1 inch back-lit sensor then Sony will loose some customers as I expect Panasonic to be cheaper -
For now the RX10 is the king in that small bridge camera market - minus the range - but 200mm is enough for lots of travel and family type shooting.
Seriously, you are right, it has got nothing to do with Lumix! $1400 in Canada? ...$1400 = imac computer + a table + a chair ha ha
Hey, Whats the Nikon Bag that Chris is carrying on his back?
What's the wireless mic setup you guys are using? Sounds really good.
We use a Sony UWP-130 system. I like them.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
I take it you'd still take the gh4 over the rx10 for video?
Hey Jordan will you revisit this camera now that Sony update the codec to XAVC-S?
They literally listen to what you wanted.
I'd like to think this review was influential, but I think it was more a matter of the Panasonic FZ1000 being released. I'd love to do a comparison between the XAVC and AVCHD, I'll see how busy the Photokina announcements make us!
Jordan @ TCSTV
Excelent review..
Judging from the totally blown snow in most of this movie even in this diffused light, the dynamic range leaves something to be desired.
Yeah, I'm somewhat worried about that as well.
I agree... the dynamic range is one area where it definitely falls short.
Hey TCS, how do you like the zoom ring? Let of review says the power zoom ring is slow and can be quite aggregating when shooting still.
The zoom ring is pretty sluggish, and you have rotate it too far to do it in one smooth motion. However, the zoom control on the rocker by the shutter is an alternative option, and it works much better for making large changes in focal length. Since I shot the video with manual focus, I used the rocker switch exclusively. It worked well.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
Does it overheat ?
This bridge camera il weather sealed?
hello noob question: do canon dslrs have avchd as well for video?
do you have a review on the Sony RX 100 ll ? How do you like it? thanks!!
sony should bring some of the slt features to the future rx10 , ie flippy screen
lets hope they address the codec issue!
Thats great idea. Every camera yall review now, that camera model should also be used to shoot the review with.
We'll try to. Unfortunately, when we get a camera early, usually there's only one delivered. But whenever we have access to a pair, we'll use one to shoot the video. Unless its a Fuji.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
TheCameraStoreTV
Great work
Do you really need those huge bags on your back when you are doing presentation? :)
It's also weather sealed.
Sorry I quickly went over the comments to see if anything related to comparison of the image quality to the cameras in this price range and couldn't see. Canon 70D is apparently a good video camera but has lower dynamic range, right?. How about Nikon D5200 or D7100. They have higher dynamic range, higher colour depth, and better overall picture quality. D5200 with a nice lens would be probably cheaper or equal to the price of Sony RX10. Would be nice to compare the video qualities. I wish the both rings were assignable. Many times there need to be continuous adjustment to focus while changing zoom. Do you know if the zoom / focus remote control that works with RX100 II also work with RX10?
I sure wish you'd put an Xrite color sample test in the shot. Looks a bit magenta. Jordan looks too pink. No white snow. Re color grade to see the Sony
Literally laughed so hard at that camera sex part. Haha. Cool video. Nice to have a bit of character in these kind of videos. Some camera dudes are so boring.
Would this camera perform better than a Sony a6000 with a SEL 18-200 lens? I'm going abroad this summer on four continents and want the perfect compromise of portability/performance. Also, does the crop factor make this camera's 24mm performance closer to 50? Thanks!
+Hunter McKinney Hey! At least on the second question I can give you an answer: No, the focal length of 24mm is already adjusted for the crop factor. So it really should have a the same field of view as any 24mm lens on a full frame body. (I think at some point in the video you could see that it said "8.8 - xy", which means that on the wide end the focal length of the lens is 8.8 mm. 8.8 x crop factor = full-frame-equivalent 24mm in easy words)
Thank you!
Can i use a Rode Videomic pro as an external microphone for Rx10? Can anyone answer please.
It'll work brilliantly on the RX10!
Jordan @ TCSTV
Hi guys! Nice review! There's just one thing I can not understand. Why everybody - including sony, and every reviewing specialist - talks about 1' sensor? Tech sheet: sensor size: 13.2mmx8.8mm. Even Jordan Drake talk says about sensor size, that it's about the 16mm film. The diagonal for 13.2x8.8 would be 15.8mm. One inch is 25.4mm. So the sensor of Rx10 would be 1:1.6 inch. (25.4/15.8=1.6). The diagonal for APS-c sensor is about 25mm. So 1' sensor would be greater then the Canon's APS-C sensorsize.
I think you need to read up on sensor sizes - and math ;-)
www.gizmag.com/camera-sensor-size-guide/26684/pictures#1
Lars Pallesen HI!
Thanks! I'm familyar with sensor sizes...that was not the question. And
I've found that already... and looks like, it's not about math (at least nothing wrong with my math... :)...
But don't you agree, that these facts sould be cleard in such reviews? .... it's not perfectly honest thing from manufacturers to use these terms mixed?
Nice review. Agree with some of the other comments. Please try and video more people - in this case, some interior shots, in an interview set up could have shown off the low light performance. I would specifically use and RX10 with an Atomos Ninja, so jokes aside, I would have liked to have seen whether the RX10s HDMI initiates record on the Ninja, and what the signal it outputs is. Regardless, of my selfish wishlist for your review - a massive thanks for hauling your asses out in to the cold to film this ; )
It does not trigger the ninja2
1:20 Bahahhahahahahahaha well done. This is why you guys will ALWAYS have a future in the review business!
What mic are you using?