Use Value Masses to Dramatically Improve Your Paintings

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  • Опубліковано 17 лют 2020
  • Several viewers have asked me to expand on this idea of subject-driven and design-driven paintings. It is one of several foundational ideas, we could call them leverage points, that can help to dramatically improve your paintings.

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  • @anamariacastilloperez198
    @anamariacastilloperez198 2 роки тому +10

    Value masses, these two words have been a golden key for me to do simpler sketches, to come back drawing, since many years, I am grateful to you. Wonderful and generous videos.

  • @samuelmuiga3101
    @samuelmuiga3101 3 роки тому +2

    That charcoal thumbnail is one of most valuable things I picked up that has improved my practice.Its saved me so many "yup that's not gonna fly" moments.

  • @user-op5op6xs3c
    @user-op5op6xs3c Рік тому +1

    Ian - Your concepts are changing my approach to painting so fundamentally. I'm positively astounded that I've never learned this before. My confidence and pleasure in the painting process is increasing and, yes, the paintings themselves are improving. Thank you!

  • @marybethw8121
    @marybethw8121 3 роки тому +12

    😱Wow! Need to listen to this about 3 times!!

  • @cecileegeorgeson_artist
    @cecileegeorgeson_artist 4 роки тому +19

    Love how you manage to explain these co,mplex concepts so I can understand

  • @carenfalconer3432
    @carenfalconer3432 Місяць тому

    Hello . I find your video information so helpful. I teach art to children and adults and have always explained that value is so important. You have helped add to this and I hope to share your ideas eith others AS you have helped me with my art too. Thank you.

  • @jbellinger4908
    @jbellinger4908 4 роки тому +6

    Hi Ian,
    You explain so well how we can interpret our three dimensional world onto a two dimensional surface! I have always thought of it in this way: Intellectually we know “ things “ are three dimensional but we can only “see”them in two dimensions. We can’t see around the objects. Getting students in the habit of doing a thumbnail sketch is important to the design phase... as you stress, too.
    Your videos are a wealth of concise information with great examples that give students a road map to apply to their own painting journey. Thank you! I’m actually looking at one of my own landscapes I did a few years ago and things are popping out that I could do to improve it😎

  • @robynguinn8941
    @robynguinn8941 3 роки тому +7

    Thank you for producing such great videos....as a struggling self taught beginner, I find your teaching and demos inspiring. So glad to have found your channel....

  • @shohreshirazi4318
    @shohreshirazi4318 2 роки тому

    I am so happy to find your Chanel!

  • @G.G.8GG
    @G.G.8GG 3 роки тому +5

    I took one of those senior painting classes and it was nice, but nothing really educational happening. The contrast of the fabulous content in this talk just makes horizons start to expand and bloom. So exciting.

  • @GoldberryIsland
    @GoldberryIsland 2 роки тому

    Oh you are verbalizing the questions I haven't been able to formulate. And yay.... answers! What a gift your channel is 😀 Thank you!

  • @oil-paintings
    @oil-paintings Рік тому

    I love the difference in paintings what works and what doesn’t work!

  • @petianikolova4299
    @petianikolova4299 2 роки тому

    Thank you mister Roberts! You help me a lot to set my artistic puzzle. Thank God for your existence.

  • @jonaslarson1721
    @jonaslarson1721 3 роки тому +1

    Very engaging, and your claws are great 😊

  • @donnagillispie
    @donnagillispie Рік тому

    Thank you Ian , all so helpful 😊

  • @veganbyday3771
    @veganbyday3771 Рік тому

    OMG, after you talked about your claw hands and said: "Well, that is what I got." 🤣I just died laughing and did not hear another thing you said... Ok, let me try the video again from the start now 😂.

  • @gabrielerosa665
    @gabrielerosa665 3 роки тому +2

    UA-cam have sent this great recommendation in this sunday afternoon. Thanks for your clarity, your deep but simple explanation...in few words you open a great door to scape from the photograph representation to the proper inner and design vission. It's not a " hearing and learning" instantly lesson, but it's a direction where we can experiment and try until, finally, we can learn it.

  • @fdej51289
    @fdej51289 3 роки тому +1

    Finding your talks helping me to be so much aware of shapes and tonal values. This talk was so helpful in being more creative how one can make your composition much more striking. Thanks

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  3 роки тому

      HI Frances, I'm glad you are enjoying the videos. I think so much of the success of a paintings is getting big values masses, things you can see from across the room, to carry the painting. Everything else is sort of gravy. Best wishes.

  • @orlane219
    @orlane219 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you for your very clear explanations and the choice of your examples. I feel that you are giving us new keys to open the world " of how to put the landscape that we see onto the paper". (Sorry for the English. It is not my mother tongue). It is wonderful.

  • @themysteriousdomainmoviepalace
    @themysteriousdomainmoviepalace 2 роки тому

    Very helpful! I've had lots of art classes and design classes but noone ever put them together like this. I love the big reflection piece!

  • @dv9476
    @dv9476 3 роки тому

    😎 excellent. Rare. Unique

  • @nettacanfi5475
    @nettacanfi5475 2 роки тому

    Good one. Thank you very much!

  • @heinzaut
    @heinzaut 2 роки тому

    claw hands Was pretty funny, now i can't unsee them😂 great Videos though👍

  • @rumblef1sh
    @rumblef1sh 4 роки тому +3

    Excellent video, thanks! Stuff one doesn't tend to hear talked about, but once revealed is indeed 'foundational'. More please! :D

  • @JC-il4or
    @JC-il4or 3 роки тому

    Really enjoying this channel. Thank you for addressing pertinent issues and sorting it all out!

  • @lorrainedespres3129
    @lorrainedespres3129 2 роки тому

    Have you ever painted snow scene, during your travels,I follow you .Your books are also very helpful

  • @BibleStudyPastor
    @BibleStudyPastor 2 роки тому

    Great illustrations of taking ho-hum sense and making them dramatic by emphasizing shapes. Because of what I'm learning, this year I've found myself re-cropping photos I had previously cropped for paintings so they're tighter with more interesting shapes to paint. Thanks for sharing with us week after week and helping us to learn to see.

  • @thvrijhof-kruit7357
    @thvrijhof-kruit7357 Рік тому

    Thank you Ian

  • @saharhomaeifar8857
    @saharhomaeifar8857 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much IAN, for these amazing lessons.

  • @HelenRietz
    @HelenRietz 4 роки тому +3

    Your examples in this lesson are wonderful (I love the "polite" painting and then the vision you had of it. This is timely because, as you know, I'm currently working on interpreting "real" subjects like a dramatic piece of barn wood, yet also trying to think of them in composition terms.

  • @cockatielnation5425
    @cockatielnation5425 3 роки тому

    Revolutionary thought... that bit about going from 3D to 2D value masses and then crafting 3D out of it again...

  • @gaylemartin6498
    @gaylemartin6498 4 роки тому +4

    Hi Ian. Your video was very interesting. The whole painting process is so complex, yet is comprehensible the way to you explain the process. Thank you for another successful lesson. Gayle P.S. I like your expressive hands!

  • @jamesmurrell
    @jamesmurrell 3 роки тому

    Another excellent video Ian. The way you see art and the world is fascinating and you express it so well. Thanks for sharing.

  • @n0ireclipse
    @n0ireclipse 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you so much for this video! The examples really drove the point home and made it clear.

  • @fatoomgierdien2181
    @fatoomgierdien2181 3 роки тому

    Wow.... YOU are phenomenal!!
    Thank YOU MUCH.

  • @willungaplayback
    @willungaplayback 4 роки тому +1

    Great lessons Ian. Thankyou.

  • @zannek9342
    @zannek9342 3 роки тому +3

    Merci Sir, great presentation.

  • @rajnesh_art
    @rajnesh_art 4 роки тому +1

    Your composition videos are the best. Thank you

  • @Chronomatrix
    @Chronomatrix 2 роки тому

    Those two paintings are beautiful!

  • @elenaborowski2520
    @elenaborowski2520 2 роки тому

    Very good. Thank you.

  • @sannefridolin
    @sannefridolin 3 роки тому +1

    Exactly! Thank you!

  • @marcydrake9159
    @marcydrake9159 3 роки тому

    Thank you Ian, this was incredibly helpful! Feels like a door just opened and I’m about to take a step forward in my art journey.

  • @jamesparsons1192
    @jamesparsons1192 3 роки тому

    Very useful, thank you, Ian. I need to develop that vision.

  • @susanwood4770
    @susanwood4770 3 роки тому

    Very helpful. Not had any tuition in “foundation” in art. This has simplified in my mind the difference in slavish attention to detail that doesn’t always work, to the ideas put down in blocks joined together

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  3 роки тому

      Hi Susan. even if you want slavish detail, and of course lots of people are trying to get away from it anyway and aren't sure how, even then, the detail needs to rest, embedded, in the big value masses.

  • @Flux_One
    @Flux_One 2 роки тому

    Great video. Super helpful. Thanks for sharing. Your paintings were really dynamic too

  • @daveanderson8776
    @daveanderson8776 2 роки тому

    Thanks so much for your teaching on this subject . My paintings have been changed in The last year from adding drama from added shadow from mysterious corners as to look through a seller window ( doing still life )
    Thanks so much these insights have been very helpful.
    Dave Anderson ,happy Valley Oregon

  • @susanwong6471
    @susanwong6471 2 роки тому

    Hi Ian, the concept is so well explained that keep me thinking when I paint thank you !!

  • @gustafherlenius2315
    @gustafherlenius2315 3 роки тому

    Great insights! Thank you

  • @nancykirk3683
    @nancykirk3683 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks, Ian!

  • @dwbhy11
    @dwbhy11 4 роки тому +1

    Great explanation! Thx!!!

  • @iaincphotography6051
    @iaincphotography6051 3 роки тому

    Having just listened to this I flicked on a website by Franco Fontana (photographer) his work makes more sense now. Mind you I loved it anyway but now maybe I know why. Thanks.

  • @leilaskye8143
    @leilaskye8143 3 роки тому +1

    This is interesting.....

  • @user-pv2vr1ch5l
    @user-pv2vr1ch5l 2 місяці тому

    쉽지 않네요 그러나 훌륭합니다❤

  • @bwhittington5112
    @bwhittington5112 Рік тому

    Do you have a sequential list if your videos? Love the ones I've seen.

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  Рік тому

      I was making them weekly for two years and was lucky to get them out let alone have much order to the sequence. I am working now on trying to create more orderly playlists. I'll announce it one video when it is ready.

  • @renzo6490
    @renzo6490 3 роки тому

    Does 'foundational' mean fundamental?
    ps. I never subscribe to channels. But I subscribed to this one.
    I've watched many, many instructional videos on the subject of painting and drawing,
    Talking about creativity, design, esthetics etc. is very tricky because it involves subtle concepts that are difficult to express.
    This is teaching at a high level.

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  3 роки тому +1

      Hi Renzo, well I'm honored you've subscribed. I am using foundational and fundamental is slightly different way. Fundamental means say first principles. Can't do without them. While foundational (at least in the sense of a painting) refers more to the structure you put in place at the beginning to build the painting on. They intersect but are not exactly the same. Does that make sense?

  • @artsiecrafty4164
    @artsiecrafty4164 3 роки тому

    This idea goes way back to the old masters. Study the masters and you will pick this up.good examples in the work of Cezanne, Van Gogh.

  • @jeancassidy4535
    @jeancassidy4535 3 роки тому

    Hi Ian I have been painting as a hobby (mainly oils but more recently acrylics and watercolors), for about 10 years now and although my favorite style of painting is Impressionism I can’t seem to be able to move away from realistic painting. It’s really very frustrating. If you have any advice on how I could move more towards impressionistic painting I would be much obliged. I love all of your videos they are of great help, Jean

  • @jackwheatley8838
    @jackwheatley8838 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks for your presentation. When you are massing light and dark shapes, what colors, if any, do you use? Jack wheatley

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  3 роки тому +2

      Hi Jack, I'd say I think really in terms of values (grey scale) for the design of a painting. Obviously what I'm painting, say a landscape or an interior would then determine where I might start with what colors I'd use. But the design needs to work in terms of value first. Make sense?

    • @solea59
      @solea59 2 роки тому

      Hello Ian. It's pretty clear that green is a favourite colour of yours :-) . Do you always avoid using black altogether for shadows or use a little black mixed in sometimes ? Great video , thank you.!

  • @nelsonx5326
    @nelsonx5326 3 роки тому

    I just subscribed.

  • @holmeswk1
    @holmeswk1 12 днів тому

    Does anyone know of books that go over this type of thing? His book is fantastic, I whole heartedly recommend, but I’d like more that goes into design driven painting.

  • @katiedelaney4204
    @katiedelaney4204 3 роки тому

    Does it cost anything to join your class if so how much were are you based. I went to college to learn art and was never taught the way you explain things thank you I have saved as many of you videos I can find

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  3 роки тому +1

      Hi Kate, the weekly UA-cam videos are free. You can go to my website ianroberts.com and sign up to have the videos delivered to your inbox each week so you don't miss one. I do have online courses but I just finished teaching them recently and I'll be teaching them again in a year. Also artistsnetwork.com has a video I made called Design that I think is very useful. Good luck and best wishes.

  • @marthacanady9441
    @marthacanady9441 2 роки тому

    As a left brained person, I really have trouble with the artist eye. My mind keeps talking instead of seeing.

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  2 роки тому

      Hi Martha, a lot of using the right brain is practice. Our culture is so left brain it is easy to get stuck there. Exactly as you say, talking not seeing.

    • @marthacanady9441
      @marthacanady9441 2 роки тому

      @@IanRobertsMasteringComposition Thanks, Ian. I found a book called “Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain” by Betty Edwards. It is proving to be fascinating and helpful.