Mouthpiece Wars: 3E vs 7C! Stop the 7C insanity - Bach 3E Overall WINNER!
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I totally agree wirh your assesstment of the Bach 7C, but for me, I have not found a Bach mouthpiece I like. In my mourhpiece collection I have Bach 11/2 C, 3C, 5E, 6E, & 7C but could not find any of them a good fit. I'm not dissing any of them, as they are high quality well made mouthpieces, but just not for me. After much trial and practice I settled on the following=== bach Strad model 43 EX large bore (0.468) a Schilke 24, my Benge No. 3 bell large bore (0.464) a Schilke 20d2D, my Holton Stradodyne modei 27 large bore (0.464)a Schilke 23 cusrom and my Yamaha 631 Flugelhorn a Denis Wick 2FL. I know these large mouthpieces are not for everyone, but for me, they are what works. I'm now almost 80 years old, and on a very good day my E's and F's above high C are clear intune and musical. We are all different, but I totally agree, that putting the 7C mouthpiece as the end all for beginners is wrong. Thank you very much for your informative views. Regards John.
Thanks for your input John!
The ONLY Bach mouthpieces worth trying are the 3E and the 1X. I played lead trumpet in DCI using a 1X but that was when I was younger and stronger.
It works great for me! I am a total beginner with a 7c in hand and the 3E brought a lot of confort to my lips and I can improve my sound
I started with 7c and trying to get better it it put a mark in my lips, however my playing improve a lot after I decided to try other choices... And in Cuba we Don't have so many so guys, Kurt is on the point for real.
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I got pretty good results on a Bach 12c. Now, I play a Besson 6A which is small too and also shallow. Large mouthpieces haven't worked well for me. Should I try a smaller mouthpiece than a 3E?
Kurt. I am 58, played in bands and Orchestras for nearly 30 years. I stopped playing for 2 years and decided to come back to the Trumpet and that's how I ended up on this site. I agree about the 7 C 3 E comparison however you are an incredible Trumpet player. Man you are the Michael Jordan of the Trumpet. When you can take all those huge toilet bowl Bach mouthpieces and scream on them, well it blows my mind. Through the years I've spent a few thousand dollars on mouthpieces. I have been a solid 2nd player but never could scream and I've played everything out there. My guess is I haven't paid the price. I haven't done the hours of correcting calisthenics for lead playing. But you really encourage me. It is amazing and a real treat to hear you play. Awesome dude. Blessings my friend. Mark.
Thanks for the kind words Mark. Players have spent decades on what you described above and still can't do much better than a High D or E. The pursuit of Upper Register and Endurance is ILLOGICAL and COUNTER-INTUITIVE. Once you understand that, you will understand why more elbow grease won't work. Have you seen the Holy Grail for Trumpet Improvement?
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Kurt, I have been practicing and relearning my approach to trumpet playing. I am using my Schilke 14a4a for now but plan to change to the Bach 3 E very soon. Since changing to some of your techniques, things are happening. I'm getting different results and using facial muscles I haven't used before. This is an exciting journey. Thanks. Mark.
Great!
The 3E has a large backbore, which helps offset the shallow cup. As a result, the sound is a bit bigger than I expected.
yup
I spent my entire life with the 7C mouthpiece. It probably limited my upper register terribly but I just followed what my teacher told me back in 2nd grade when I began. I no longer play but what I am hearing you do with it is amazing.
Thank ya!
Some Bach mouthpieces like the 7C, 1C , 5C ,even 1,25C can be sharp for the lip, that's true. Denis Wick mouthpieces are almost the opposite and I can switch these mouthpieces easier since they are all flat, but I find them not very sensitive. Switching from a 1,5 C Bach to a 7E (say for piccolo) means not only :smaller diameter, less depth but also a totally different sharper rim (almost the same of the 7C) and I can ruin my lips fast on it, especially since I use too much pressure for the high notes. I don't know about that 3E but rims are very personal.
Again, the 3E is the overall winner. Once you start talking piccolo, or broadway or whatever, you likely are gravitating to a more specific mouthpiece and...MORE $$$
Hi Kurt. Just came across this video as I was researching mouthpieces for 5th grade son who is just starting to play trumpet and take lessons. Just wondering how is the 3C different from the 3E?
3C is deeper
I suggest you simply look up the 'Bach mouthpiece chart'. It shows all the available mouthpieces and what they are designed for, among with some extra information.
I bit and moved from my Bach 5c to the Bach 3e. At first I had a real airy tone, but after a few days my chops settled down and its starting to work for me. I'm keeping the 5c for low end parts in church, but with the 3e I'm really starting to enjoy jazz pieces.
Good, but I advise against switching. Your accuracy and tone will suffer. Learn to do it all on the 3E.
I use the 3E almost exclusively. I wore one out completely, and am half way through another one. I don't mess with 7C or even 3C any more. I used to use a Jet-Tone for certain special parts, but I don't any more. I have a Bach 1 (no letter) for certain dark rich parts.
Amen
I got the 3e Bach and the John Paul trumpet. I can play a scale and up higher but in a few minutes I start getting air sound and sometimes nothing. What is wrong ?
You lack EMBOUCHURE strength, flexibility, technique and probably a ton of other things. I bet this is all due to not taking lessons or taking from a generalist teacher. trumpetsizzle.com when you want to do things right!
I personally didn't like the 3e. I just don't like the lack of depth in it. It certainly did help my upper register by a couple whole steps sounding much clearer; however, my lower register took a massive tone hit. I used to have a great tone in everything up to high c playing on a Bach 5c. Tonguing and slurring was a little easier on the 3e though. I think I need to go get a 3c because I like the larger rim of the 3e but not the lack of depth.
If you don't play solos or first chair then go with the 3c
Well dern I am first chair and played a fair amount of solos😂😂. I'm thinking I just need to get more used to playing on a size 3 rim then the depth should come more naturally as I continue to use the two. Right now they're a bit too different
Sounds like you're taking lessons from the wrong instructor! 😅
If a trumpet player can't play well/comfortably on a certain mouthpiece, it may not be the mouthpiece for him or her. I'm simply saying that the mouthpiece does what Bach says it will. Improves tone and vibrance of the upper register with some drawbacks on the lower. And those drawbacks are amplified because I am not comfortable playing on such a shallow mouthpiece. Regardless, I'm no professional so I don't play much music that will go exceedingly high. To this day the highest I've ever had to play for a director of mine was a musical in high school
No, go back to what i said about...INSTRUCTOR!
My current mouthpiece is Rudy Muck 19c I can reach high notes like triple c but my problem is I can't do a lip thrill really well so I want to change what the best for me
7c?or
5c?
Thanks for the video!❤️
Plays a Triple C, but has trouble with lip trills? Never heard of such a thing. I don't think it is the mouthpiece, but YOU the PLAYER. Take some lessons and focus more on technique...that might solve all your problems
@@TRUMPETSIZZLE thanks for you reply so I can do a lip trill in Rudy Muck 19c? Because base on my research my mpc prevents it from doing lip trill😅
Im a mariachi trumpet player... And as a trumpet player i use alot of vibrato... I have a 7c mouthpiece i hit higher notes and do vibrato and it hurts my lipz... Any tips?
best tip? Study lessons and courses with a pro who can play the way you would like to be able!
Get off the 7C. Switch to Warburton
I stumbled around until I sat in a music store and played every mouthpiece they had and tripped over a 3E. Used it to play lead for years.
Interesting, but glad that piece worked for ya playin lead
Kurt Thompson, it was a lot easier that the Shillke 20D3d I started college with .😀
I have a 3c as main mouthpiece and i want help to play higher... 3e gona help me? (thank you in advance... You are the Best)
Very kind. Well of course it will help, but you should be investing in good quality private lessons
How long have you been playing
I tried a 7C once and I thought it was horrible to play. You’ve just explained why. Thanks
Glad I could help!
what to advise was more stable and brighter upper register instead of a Bach 1.5 C?
Ummmm just about ANY mouthpiece is brighter and more stable above HIGH C than the Bach 1 1/2 c
I like my Bobby Shew Marc. 1.5. I used a Schilke 13A4a for years though.
You're in a different place....you have a more specific mp
7C is incredibly painful for me. I'm currently using a 5C and a Parduba Double Cup #4. I used to use a Bobby Shew Lead for Jazz but the tone was worse than the double cup, and the highest note I have to play is a G, which is rough on the 5C but is fine on the double cup. Would there be any benefit in me getting a 3E?
Again the 3E is an ALL -AROUND general purpose mouthpiece...not for any specific style. Since you can return it, it wouldn't hurt to try it
Nice video.. What do you think of the the new Bach commercial mouthpieces?
Like any other mouthpiece: Some will be good, great, or terrible, but the 3E still remains the Champion for the all purpose general trumpet mouthpiece
What would you recommend for me, I have lips that are more on the plump side and a substantial overbite, as you have said, the 7c really hurts my lips and prematurely fatiges them anytime I try to play anything higher then a A above the staff.
I would have to work with you and hear/watch you play a bit
Hi Kurt. What do you think about using "lead" pieces when you are still building your range? I'm a comeback player, former 3rd-parter in high school, now 20 years later I've been playing every day for about 7 months. As a teen I could barely get above the staff, now I'm solid up to high C, and squeaking out d's, e's, and the occasional f. I went from 3c to 3d, at first, but now have a v cup with about the same rim. I really feel the boost on the 3mv in terms of having plenty of endurance to play a show in a rock ensemble--I can get thru the set without "leaking" at the corners, get the sizzle needed to pair with amplified guitar/drums, and it makes high A, B, and C "giggable" without much effort. I've even overcome the initial shallow mouth piece issues of having low control to articulate, to move thru fast passages, and to produce vibrato (initially I would just cut-out if I used jaw vibrato, and now I can get pretty much the same lyrical sound as a c-cup vibrato). I've been typically using the more "conservative" switch of the 3d to do my practice routines and strength building though, and then switching to the 3mv a couple of days before a gig so I'm producing sound consistently and all tuned in. My question is, if I switch to the shallower one full time, or even go with a 3e as you suggest, is this not bad for my progress through the developmental stage I'm in? When did you stop playing on deeper cupped mouthpieces altogether? After getting to double G? After DHC? It seems like you do all your practicing at this point on your custom mp which is in the range of a 3e in terms of cup-volume and backbore.
Short answer: I stopped playing on 5c and 3c about half way through my senior year in high school.
Long answer: It's more about embouchure development and air. Once you have that taken care of, you can mess around with mouthpieces and not suffer too many consequences. I do have a comeback player course, but since you are no longer a PURE comeback player, BUT have been playing, I highly recommend you get involved in my 16 week course. trumpetsizzle.com The 3E never hurt anyone's progress at all!
@@TRUMPETSIZZLE Awesome, thanks man. I switched to the smaller one full time and already feels biggish now.
I'll check out your course soon!
wow, this makes me rethink everything, I always thought the mouthpiece really didn't matter and I've never really experimented with other mouthpieces. I play on the 7c and I think I get a really great sound and I can play high notes but never can play them for very long or very consistently or easily. I'm going to give this a try - thanks!!
Yes!
Hey Kurt, I did finally get the 3E ($55 or so, can't remember exactly) but while I was waiting, I had already started playing on a Bach 3C which had come as an extra mp with my son's horn.
I definately like the 3C more than the 7C and instantly, I got a little bit more endurance. It feels so much better than the 7c , I wouldn't have even given it a try if not for your video so I really appreciate the work you're doing on youtube - it's fantastic!.
Anyway, the 3E came in and man, I can't hardly play on it at all, I guess the shallow mp is a big paradigm shift for me as I just can't get much of a sound especially the higher I go.
I haven't totally given up on the 3E as I'll work with it some to see if my lips can adust to it over time, but the really cool thing is that my son (13 years old) tried the 3E and instantly helped him out with his range so he has completely ditched the 7C he had for my 3E and is using it in his band now so I may have to order another one as he doesn't want me to share it with him now.
Hey there Dave. Yes, I will be making another follow up mouthpiece tutorial on situations like yours. Well, a very very shallow mouthpiece won't work for everyone including me. Problem? The BACH 3E is not a very very shallow mouthpiece! It is only a little shallow compared to the likes of some JET TONES, Schilke 6a4a, etc...So:
1. You have enormous lips and 3E is too small
or
2. You are rolling in TOO MUCH
or
3. You are not rolling in, but still shoving too much lip into the mouthpiece
or
4. You need to slightly adjust the mouthpiece a bit higher or lower, but we are talking just a tiny tiny fraction only...like a hair's width or so
or
5. You have "stiffitis" or stiff, unresponsive lips that have been helped by a bigger cupped mouthpiece enabling easier vibration.
or, LAST
6. You lack overall lip or embouchure strength!
Now, if it is not one of the above, then just try a few back flips or maybe some cart wheels and that should do the trick my friend!
So I’ve been on a 7c since 5th grade (10th grade now) so if I swapped to a 5c or 3c would it benefit me? (I literally had no idea I was supposed to get a different mouthpiece)
I don't know. There are a very rare amount of people that love the 7C. Give the 3E a trial run and see what you think.
lets just say hitting a high C is sooo much easier on a 3E
@@degobeats425 what about lower notes?
Classical player here. the straight 2 (no letter) was my favourite for years. Working on a 1 1/2C currently (good "Soprano timpani" tone at large air mass playing in the mid range) - anything lyrical I still like my 2. Baroque/Natural trumpet im on a replica Haas from Egger SI6 but that's ... different.
Have an ole Laskey pic for my piccolo trumpet stuff. 7E/11E hybrid with a drop into the rim
So I currently play on a 7c and I am wanted to switch to a 7e or 7ew. I have tried a 3c before and had many issues with it and I much prefer the diameter from a 7 size mouthpiece. Would switching to a 7e or 7ew be good for just a normal Bb trumpet or would that be an issue?
7E is pretty decent. I just recorded a review on the Gold megatone 7e...look for it soon!
Thanks for this review. I have only playing got just under a year. I have a 7C and just got a 3C. After watching your video I will purchase a 3E. I looked on eBay and only saw 3E's for coronet and Fluglehorn. Is coronet 3E same as trumpet? Or should I purchase directly from Bach?
Michael McGuire The link for this mp is above in description
I can’t fit into a 3E. However, my 1E is just perfect.
I DO, though, have a Bach 3F, waiting for the day I can ever figure out how to play such a narrow (for me) rim. 🤣
You can do it!
Kurt tell me what is better for the lead Yamaha Bobby Sew Lead or Bach 3E if my main mouthpiece is BAch 3C?
it depends
I'm deciding to either buy a Bach 3e or a Bach artisan 3c but I just don't know the major differences between them two, would you know anything about them?
I might
Took your advise. Bought a 3E. Love it. Thanks.
I play trumpet for around 15 years and you seven c the whole time I changed to a 3E mega tone literally feels like a comfortable glove for my lips
Good to hear
I agree about the shallow the mouthpiece is much better I had a easier time with a shallow than a 7c which gives a me a harder time getting the notes I want great video by the way!
Thanks very much
I have been following a long time. I have learned a great deal from you. However, I took your advice and bought a 3E Mouthpiece. I tried for a month to play it. No way. I can't hardly even get a note out of it. I have never been able to play ANY shallow mouthpiece.
3E really is NOT that shallow. However, maybe playing on a 3D for a while would allow you to transition...
Have you played the Bach 3MV commercial mouthpiece? I would like to know what you think ..
if I have, I have forgotten
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I agree!!
What mouth piece would you recommend for someone hoping to extend his range to double C. I've played all my life and currently still play on my 7c and I can play comfortably up to the G above high C although I do Hit A Some times but it's usually hard on my lips and sometimes I get slight bruise marks. What mouth piece do you recommend I switch to
Bach 3E
what's the difference between a 3c and 3e? Which one should I get?
3E shallower, softer rim. 3C deeper cut, sharper rim. The rim really isn't different, but the illusion is real
@@TRUMPETSIZZLE thank you for the help!
You're right 3e is the way to go o switched early junior year in high school during jazz and bam insane results
Very happy for ya!
Ok so I need help I am in 6th grade and play on a 5B mouthpiece and can hit double b and would Like to expand my range and make a brighter sound please comment for help
This is a very easy one for me to answer:
1.Stop the 5 b and get with the 3E .
2.Start taking private lessons.
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Dr. Death you need to start on high c play for four counts then go down do low d play for four then you just repeat except every time you go high PLAY one not higher than before and it's the same with the low part just go one down
It's helped me expand alot
K
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great vid. I bought the Bach 3E through your link. hope they give you the credit
Just for the record Kurt, I just listened to your solo on the Star Spangled Banner at the Diamond Dack Stadium. Unbelievable. Great performance. I thought it was better than Arturo Sandoval's rendition. Fabulous my friend. Mark.
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I have played trumpet since I was 12, I'm 61 now playing in a praise and worship group, community orchestra, and a jazz band. For 39 years I played and practiced an average of 2-3 hrs. per day. I then had a lip injury, a thermal burn that separated my lip to the nose. It took 5 years before I could play again and have worked my way back. I played on a Bach 5B most of those years. Recently I bought a new Yamaha Wayne Bergeron Trumpet with a Yamaha 11C4 mouthpiece. I feel the rim shape is affecting my endurance and range. I also have a Bobby Shew mouthpiece and find it to be to shallow and difficult to play. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I am concerned the 3E may be to shallow as well.
I'd have to hear you play and take some time to get that specific. Because of your injury, you, more than anyone, should be looking to seriously build up strength!
What do you think about the GEWA-CUP 1 1/2 c? I've been using it for quite a while now. I also got the Jamaha japan 11B4. Any recommendtions on which one should I use?
Maybe the Jamaha
So even if I played on a 7C for years, I would benefit switching to 3E? I do notice that I play on a 3C slightly comfortably in upper register than on a 7C.
You won't know until you TRY!
Hi Kurt. Just wanted you to know I ordered the 3 E off the Amazon link.posred above last night. Thinking about becoming a patron . Mark.
Fantastic Mark! I hope the 3E treats you well! 👍
Kurt, I bought the 3 E and have been playing it for a few weeks. At First at could barely play the F scale on the staff but have stayed with it. I found the key here is development. Slow long tones, middle of the chart scales. When you're fatigued quit. Go back next day and slowly go to long tones, low tones and let your chops get adjusted to this new piece. Many muscles need to gravitate to it. Every time I decide this is not for me I gain more endurance, tone and power. One must stick to it. Now I have a question. I have asthma ( just diagnosed) and the horn and mouthpiece is taking too much air. Can I have someone cut the cup off and have it threaded for different backbores? Maybe tighten it up some. Thanks. Mark.
Which one would be better for braces
3E
@@TRUMPETSIZZLE thanks
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My school trumpets have 7c mouthpieces I can't rlly get a good pitch but I'm the second best of the 5 trumpet players. First is someone who has played 3 years. Would I play better on a 3c?
7c is a terrible mouthpiece imo, 3c much better
Gwen Taylor nope: 3E
When I get my own trumpet I'll try and get a 3e or 3c mouthpiece. I just don't like having to use a 7c
If I switch mouthpieces will it effect me; lead to 3E from 3E to lead?
Yes
I usually use a 7c mouthpiece but if i switched to the 3e or the x peice would they be able to fit in to the trumpet?
Yes, they will fit
Really thanks for the comparison on mouthpieces. And for the bob reeves which would be similar Mr Kurt?
Glad you liked this. Bob Reeves has a mp chart comparison plus you can call and ask them
I’ve been running a 5B since 6th grade (am currently in 10th) should I make the switch to 3E right now? (I have braces, any tips to extend my range would be helpful)
The best tip is to go here and actually DO SOMETHING-TAKE ACTION! www.trumpetsizzle.com
Carlos, it is very relative. Can you play hot cross buns now very good with your 7c? Probably. What about something harder? I am not convinced!
Can you please go into the letter meaning for Bach please? I’ve recently started playing on a Bach 3b and don’t know the difference between B and C
I will be making a video tutorial on this at the beginning of 2018...stay tuned!
How do you rate the Bobby Shew Jazz or the Lead? I am a "comeback" player and considering buying some of your lessons. I am working on my upper register and seem to be stuck at F or F# above high C. Is my mouthpiece holding me back?
I have both of these mouthpieces now and will review them very soon. It's not the mouthpiece, it's your lack of lip strength and possibly lack of embouchure strength!
Thanks for taking the time to reply kind sir! Have a great day!
I am playing on a 3C right now, but I also found an older Schilke 15 mouthpiece that I might try as well. My lips are a little more "fleshy" and based on the stork website I should have a 17mm-17.5mm mouthpiece. I guess I am on the "mouthpiece safari!" I am considering a Bob Reeves setup this summer. They are doing a valve alignment on my horn right now. Thanks for all you do, and I love your videos. I watched every one of them while I was on alert this last week. Great stuff!
does the bach 3e also play the lowest notes even though it helps in the high register?
I do believe it has one or 2 low notes in it
hello, aside 3e , what mouthpiece u recommend much better?
3E is just an over all GENERAL recommendation. Beyond that, I would have to know a lot more and that usually means being a student of mine or taking a few lessons so I can get to know your playing. 3E is not the final, holy grail for any trumpet player. it is simply a general go to mouthpiece as a good start ONLY!
Merry Christmas from the great white north of Norway! Ok, Im 60 years old. I marched with the Kilts and Madison Scouts as a teanager. I was Just gifted my late Great Uncle Gerogie's Holton ST602 Collligate in lovely condition. He played in Disneys and Barnum and Baileys bands. It came with a Frank Holton Heim 2 and a Bach 10.5 C. Both have the plating nearly gone. Im 2 months into self traning simply because there are no teachers willing to teach a 60 years old fart. My training thus far has brought me to G,A B, C .My chops are trying to climb higher... Im on it everyday, I just need more time. Ok, so which 3e? I see 3513E, 3493E, 3517E. ? These numbers came from Amaon. Thanks in advance!
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@@TRUMPETSIZZLE Happy holidays and thanks for getting back to me. I agree I need instruction, clearly. Still, I'd like to treat myself to this killer mouthpiece you made several videos on. You sold me! My 2 that i mentioned, the plating is worn so im ok with going for it. And also looking into your instruction. Thanks again. (since i posted, im knocking on 4th line D's door)
now im using 14B4 mouthpiece....im trying to buy a 3C..what is the difference between these two??
it is yamaha custom 14b4 with gold rim
Look it up
Is it just the rim size with bach or does it have the same bad qualities in other brands?
Not sure what you mean, but the entire specs with the 3E is perfect for most players as a general purpose mouthpiece.
The Bach 7C is not the best mouthpiece for a beginner and for a long time the Bach 3C was much more common for students before the 7C was stuffed int he case with every new Bach. A lot of High Schools require a 3C and 1.5C and a straight mute! I will have to try a 3E. I have a Curry 3TF and 1.5TF that I like.
If you already have a no you like, stick with it!
i used to play on a 7c, i could squeeze out a double c, then i tried a 3e now i can play higher than anyone at school lol
yayyyyyyy
We are just Constantly Surrounded by 7C Mouth Piece in this Country. This is Sad.
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lol, but ...true!
I am new to the trumpet world, will a Bach 3E fit a Jupiter 1100S?
The likelihood is 100%
Will this work for me? Because I play a 5C right now.
Definitely!
@@TRUMPETSIZZLE great, I will be sure to buy one. Thanks.
What are your thoughts on 10.5C
Good mp for many players! Classical cats use it most for pic work
Thanks Kurt. That really helped. Ur the best
Thanks Aaron!
Anyone wanna donate a 3E mouthpiece to a 35 year old dad who just got back into playing trumpet after buying a trumpet off Facebook marketplace?
hehe
I play lead and use a Yamaha Eric Miyashiro signature mouthpiece for only high playing jazz music though
Ok
What if i play on a 7C and i tried a 3E and i felt that the rim was too wide/big?
Then go back to the 7C!
Have you ever used a Hammond Design mouthpiece?
not knowingly...
TRUMPETSIZZLE try one out. They’re kinda pricey but I like them.
I’m going to get a Bach 3e ASAP. Thanks for the info.
good choice
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I think Bach C cups are all suck. 1D, 1E or 3D, 3E are the best
hehehe...you're not alone my friend!
what is the difference between 7E and 3E?
The 7 has a slightly more narrow rim
Thanks! You mentioned rim size, Where does the aperture size come in on Bach’s Numbering / lettering convention?
7C is an abomination 🤣. I played on 3E....real good but I now play on Warburton 4SV
I may have played on that Warburton at one time. Once you get amazing chops...it all doesn't matter too much for most normal playing ...
got one today after maining a 3c this video is so accurate, so glad i got the 3e
Glad it helped
I might upgrade my 7c what is a good choice
3E
@@TRUMPETSIZZLE ok I will try to get that mouthpiece
@@TRUMPETSIZZLE is it the same size as 3c just a shallower cup
@@TRUMPETSIZZLE I’m gonna probably take your word for it just really nervous about it
@@thomasreppond3608 I don’t recommend. It’s a very brittle and thin sounding mouthpiece and extremely easy to bottom out if u play with any lip intrusion. It would be a terrible all around mouthpiece.
Thanks for the tip.
Glad it helped!
Just order my Bach 3e. Thanks for the tip.
What’s better 1 1/2 or 3
Depends
WoW!
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I had a 10.5 E once. You get a pencil tip of place to vibrate in... lol. Dont do it. The E portion of the size is the depth of the bowl.
lol yup
Pls am an beginner pls what mouth piece would help me
3E is best, but if you are a pure beginner. 7c is also fine
I have been playing for 4 years and I can hit a high e and sometimes a double g on a 7c
Amazing Master!!!
Excellent!!!
Many thanks!!
Great video, but adjust your camera a little higher so it shows more of your trumpet and all of your face!
3E IS GREAT! THANKS.
It really is! Glad you like it
I just got a trumpet as a secondary instrument.
Great
How's it going
So 7C helps with lower notes, and 3C helps with higher ones. That's a good thing to *note.*
ummmmmmmm i don't think it works quite like that
Other way around
Well not really
I know what you mean but why not Bach 7E or 3C ??? Almost there 😀
Those are still good mouthpieces, but the 3E is better for reasons stated in the vid!
i make my own mouthpieces i have a 3E 7/14 works great
Ummmm let's hear you on it
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Qual a numeração do Bob Reeves?
what?
I have a 10 1/2 c. Will that work.
well yeah but not for everything.
How about a Bach 3d?? What do you think about that?
It's good, but did not beat out the 3E for overall best mp for under $50
It’s too deep !!!
100% right
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I have two 7c one 5c one 3c one 11/2c a megatone 11/2c and a 3E
Sweet!
I agree that 7c is a bucket but a 3e is a dinner plate.
7c for low parts.
3e for high parts.
To me we are taking about two extremes. Mouth pieces are like shoes. Play what works for you.
Mmmmmm wrong, very wrong.
Logical yes, but dead wrong.
My neighbor used a 1. Big sound and 5 octave range.
I've been using a 7C for 7 years of playing. I feel stupid lol
No need in that as long as you were paying for good quality trumpet lessons because regardless of mp, you still have gained considerable technique, style, experience, range etc...right?