He further stated that he asked what was this Ck Bk on the walls and he was told We put Crip killer due to most of our enemies are crips. At this time in 1989, there was a vacuum in the 83 Hoover recruitment as far as youngsters so The 74 Hoover elite clique known as the Bays Bays were in the 83 Hoover terrain making sure that the borders were protected from Manchester to Florence. The writing on the walls was from Baby Shady 74 Hoovers that espoused ckbk which caused the new movement among the youngsters. Baby Shady was one of those individuals who commanded respect and was notoriously known throughout South Central Los Angeles among allies and enemies alike.
@Muhammad Ali; You Are ABSOLUTELY Right Bro!!✊🏾👌🏾💯 I Met Swole Ass Young 18 Year Old "Baby Shady" In 1992 In "Wayside Medium North" & He Admired The Fact That I Didn't Roll Up Outta The Dorm We Was In, Full Of Hoovers, Me Being From The "O" Car.. He Straight Up TOLD Me That HE STARTED "74Hoover Criminalz" And After Completing My 9 Year Prison Sentence I Found Out That "CRIMINALZ" Done Took Over The Whole Hoover Set, Except One.. Damn, That Young Nikk🤡Ka Was A "G" I Didn't Even Realize It Til I Got Out.. You Spittin' REAL Facts Bro, Cause I Heard It From "Baby Shady" HimSelf..✊🏾👌🏾💯
Dead homies like niggas say... niggas better come outside. You gotta breath that air.. walk dat line 5 and better get cut shot stabbed be hungry and stop that hunger . Lost friends and got involved with the fake. A nigga gotta tell on you 💯. Well at least that's how I see it. Sorry about the paragraph.
The independent framework outside the Crip formation placed the Hoover's back as there own identity just like when they were Hoover Groovers.Those who were put on Hoover Criminals and then want to say things such as Hoover Crip 74,83,92,94,107,112 are undermining their put on due to them representing something that contradicts Hoover Criminals The Hoover Criminals are contradicting all normal standards in the sphere of cripping. This reactionary idea derived from the abnormalities that existed when the Crip on Crip attacks occurred among the 90 Hoover's and 107's. Thus, between the Rolling 60s and 83 gangsters which cemented the break up in south central Los Angeles between Crips. Hoover Criminals embrace our tribe in totality. Those who are elders and want to remain to the Crip Identity is their perogative. These are individuals and not the collective structure who possess this attitude among non-52 Hoover Criminals. There is no problem when some tribal members say Cuz, or loc. Hoover Criminals lingo is predicated on words like Hoove, Crim, and Groove when they address their love ones. Hoover is a structure and 716 is bigger than subsets. No one is bigger than Hoover and this concept cannot be superseded by tribal Members. Hoover Criminals are in every state. The Crips who feel some type of way about Ck being advocated are pure hypocrites if they have Crip enemies. They kill Crips, fight Crips and even cross their hoods out on tattoos. This is a contradiction! Hoover Criminals will remain a force to be reckoned with until their is change in thinking process of the collective. Hopefully it comes a time when all black brothers unite and be instrumental in building our community... I will anticipate this beautiful day...
Go on Kev Mac videos and watch his interview with Tony Stacy. According to Triple O.G Hoover Tony Stacy there was no such thing as a Hoover Groover! He said they started off as Baby Cribs then East Side Crip then Hoover Crip.
Naw Pirus are Bloods ain't no kard kutting, you can't be a part of the Blood alliance and not be a Blood no matter how big your set is, some Pirus try to push separation but they are still Bloods and Pirus, Piru put the Blood in Bloods.
I will elaborate on this new philosophy and true history of the movement of criminals. In 1989, I loved boogie down productions hip hop artist. They had a song called criminal minded and I sat down bumping this song one day and came with the idea that we are going to be criminals. The sound of Hoover Criminals was that stamp I felt we needed at that time. With my reputation and influence I commence to make this known by writing on all the walls from Manchester and Vermont to Florence and Vermont also down to Figueroa (Hoover criminals CkBk.) I instructed the young 74 Bay bays to write Criminals AND never to write Hoover Crips anymore. Big scooby from 74 Hoover came to see me in 1989, in 83 territory where I spent most of my time at and he asked me why was writing Ck on the walls. I explained that we fight most of the crips so this is why I write it. He basically agreed with my logic and left . I was approached by some notable Elder tribal members from all tribes. They elder Hoover crips didn't like me putting crab killa on the walls. This is understandable because of their memories and experience with the crip machine in the early development of cripping. The war between the eight tray gangsters and the rolling sixthys broke this Crip love apart. Just as these two factions used to be together daily and shared a bond, the bond was broken through blood shed.
Damn, crazy you said ETH was in a vacuum being that they’ve always been the premier Hoover clique. Atleast while I was coming up. I was born in 97 . I remember 81st being the MOST treacherous block in LA. You couldn’t even really hang out there if you wasn’t from Hoover.
The Hoover criminals. There has being alot of misinformation and exaggerated notions pertaining to this philosophy and historical relevance in the development of this movement. There was a necessity to counter attack the false concepts and the ambiguities that has left the younger generation of Hoover criminals without a cemented foundation while espousing this ideology in the Lurch. I find it puzzling that you have individuals acting like they are experts on the subject matter when they were not among the elite who push this concept. Just as you have those who are affiliated with east side crips and west side crips with their historical knowledge possessing their own story and accounts of what transpired in their time when the newly founded idea that was embraced by them, and Many were not among those who had influenced the collective Crip idea but were followers. These type of people take credit, or act as if they were a factor when this isn't the case historically. Likewise, when it comes to the emergence of Hoover criminals penetrating the landscape, and challenging the Hoover Crip mentality, these people was no where to be found in the formulating process of the new identity that emerged from among the 74 Bay Bays. Hoover criminals have went across state lines and their influence has transformed the concept of gang banging becoming the first to take an identity of being a staunch ally of cripping from the beginning, thus rejecting it [Crip] and advocating a new profound concept such as Blood killer/Crip killer. This position transformed to Anybody killer making Hoover despised by former allies of the crips for such stance. We will get into the History of Hoover with the individual who pressed this into the psyche of Hoovers on the streets in 1989. This new profound Hoover Criminal philosophy have been equated with the Brother Big Hawk from 94th street Hoover while in the county jail. This have to be analyzed in it's entirety by the readers. If this is to be taken to be true, then you would of had rival enemies who were in close proximity with hoovers mentioning this.
@@purpsmkr7 the internet gangster would be the guy randomly reminiscing about going on missions & getting caught in a comment section for the attention of somebody thatvprobably won’t see this anyways. That’s just corny imo
I feel like labeling yourself a Crip or a Blood doesn't even matter anymore. It's about what neighborhood you're from. I mean look at Rollin 60's and Eight Tray's. They're both Crips but they hate eachother.
Over a Female, they was fighting over two bros fuccing the same female and someone ended up being shot. Bros shouldn’t beef behind one female. Especially one fuccing both of you
@jaysmoove92333 Hoover was the forerunners of the crip movement, but they was groovers before they was crips and the majority of our enemies are crips. We are not crips. Is America still Great Britain??
If this segment was about the history of the Hoover’s I could understand but these guys are fucking weird! 5duece Hoovers groovers are one of the original Hoover’s and they still pushed a Crip line till this day! Hoovers are Crips
@@kushtaseti4336 it’s more than just 52 Hoover and the other sets that are Hoover dropped crip due to beefs with crip sets such as all neighborhoods and 83 gangster crips
@@ricanking20 hoover is a black gang not an ese gang so why would a black gang do that? They so loc cause they were crips and old habits die hard. Loc is a crip word nomatter what milk told you lol
It's sad but they not cappin though I mean it's possible 🤷🏾 but in this generation they don't wanna hear no peace but at the same time you got homies getting tired of killing each other that shit is getting old boring so what can we do to stop it? The cycle keeps on continue til enough is enough. Yeah hopefully our ppls can come together one day til then only time will tell ✊🏾
@@G-rell213 Thanks brother, but does the Hoover Criminals beef with the Gangster Crips, just like they beef with the Neighborhood Crips? Respectfully, I just wanted to know…
No crip from the east side or west side have never mentioned this Hoover Criminal philosophy that emerged in the Los Angeles County Jail I989. You had numerous reputable crips in the county jail in 1989 and no one has never heard of this . Tony Stacy a reputable 74th street Hoover would of knew of this movement while in prison coming from the county jail or met Older Hoovers coming from the county jail representing Hoover Criminal. However, this isn't the case. Secondly, Big Hawk would of had his own tribal members advocating this idea on the streets. This wasn't the case either. Big Crazy from 94 Hoover paroled in 1990s and he was instrumental with leading 94 Hoovers and he wasn't talking about Hoover Criminal. He was representing Hoover Crip In 1990. Thirdly, to get this message out to the public there would have to be a crew of 94 Hoovers on the front line and this mostly have to be the young soilders who are the most active to materialize this new 94 Hoover criminal philosophy. There is no evidence of this historically . All of the young 94 Hoovers at that time in 1989 were few and unable to influence 74s, 83s, 92s,107s 112s and 59s to adopt Hoover criminals vs Hoover Crips...In my conclusion In dealing with this misinformation, I must confess, I was on the phone with Hoovers in 1989 who were confined in the Los Angeles county, and Big Hawk was one of them. He *Never* told me anything about Hoover criminals! Why would Big Hawk not inform a young Hoover that was well known by all Hoovers [Young and old ] and who had influence on every Young Hoover from 52-112th street about this monumental philosophy that was going to be an ATOMIC BOMB on the streets? On UA-cam, Baby Boo from 94th street give an account that need to be examined. In the UA-cam video[ Hoover Criminals documentary response/official video] he clearly mentioned how he left camp and went into the 80s referring to 83 Hoover territory and he witnessed on the walls Ck Bk .
They were mad about Tookie dissing them in his book. Tookie was the first to mention Hoover Groover. Basically he dissed them for not doing anything for him while he was locked up. Hoover’s had all of that money and didn’t do anything for Tookie for as to pay for him a lawyer or nothing that is why he delegitimized them as authentic Crips.
@@bs10098121 stop talking no sense talk!!!! You are talking about things you have no knowledge of. It isn't no Hoover's job to get Tookie a lawyer... Hoover's are not obligated to do anything for him this is ridiculous....blah blah blah you ain't talking about Nothing
The Hoover’s founders were originally from the east side who set up shop on the west. And became damn near as deep as the main west side Crips. But from what I can see they were subordinate to Tookie also.
@@2288bigman HE was speaking facts...I mentioned the comrade due to the facts he spoke in his documentary about coming from camp and going into the 80s and being laced about the resaon we crossed out crip on the walls...im the one he spoke to directly...this my comrade
A real cease fire will never happen with the crips and bloods because unlike other gangs where the shot callers are the older OG members; that's not the case with crips and bloods. The most active call the shots, because they don't respect you unless you're actually putting in work. Doesn't matter much what work you put in before they were banging. And like dude said, these young cats ain't hearing no cease fire. They gotta make a name for themselves and can't do that if there's a cease fire. Shit is sad, because of they did stop beefing and just focused on making money... together or separately...they could be the most powerful thing to ever happen to the black community. The very thing that's been hitting our community the hardest, could be the very thing to put us on top. Too bad it's the kids that's running the show. 😏
By the 90s (the era) false claimers claiming gang junction gangs (which get ppl beat or dp'd playing with ppls names) HENCE WHY ALL THE OGs don't really push shyt whether for the hood or for activities (SHOUTOUT TO THE BROTHERS PUSHING BLACK POWER U CANT OUTSMART WHAT YOU DONT KNOW) 2000s to ?? ( WHAT CAN WE DO?) NOT JUST LA BUT YOU GET THE POINT
This Made alot of people annoyed besides the Hoover's. The 83 gangster crips and I had a strong relationship so they came over to our side to ask me what is up with the ck on the walls. Baby spike, baby Cdog, Lil Evil, etc and other active 83gc were made aware of my thoughts. Many was telling me don't write that on there side. (Meaning across Vermont and 84th )This attitude was carried by the 52 Hoover gangster crips in 1989. There was never a problem with the tribal members from 52 Hoover's who represented HGC. Many of the frontliners we're my intimate comrades and they never opposed me or what I was pushing . The 59 Hoover's young warriors at that time embraced the concept and they removed crip and advocated Criminals. The young 59s,74s 83s, 92s,94s, 107s and 112s embraced the criminal philosophy and when I was sent to camp in 1990 I pushed Hoover criminals and when i got to California Youth Authority in 1991, I pushed Hoover criminals and all the young hoovers pushed this concept thru juvenile facility's putting the stamp on this movement.(Except 52 Hoovers)
I understand your logic yes Crip on Crip violence probably would make one rethink their Crippin. However Hoover Crips had a well known history with their Crippin. Futhermore, I think it breeds confusion. I do respect the logic but to go from serious Crippin to writing Ck on the wall was a culture shock. I got homeboys that are Hoover Criminals but had I not known better they Cripped out. Yes yall was original Hoover groovers But the hoovers was very well known for their Crippin. So far it has held pretty good with the change but I see a bit of confusion among some Hoovers.
History of Hoover being Crip is irrelevant. Hoover criminals started with seven foes. Hoover criminals was introduced without concerned about what others thought. Wether it was allies or other Hoover's bro. When the mandate became a cause there is no room for negotiation or compromise. It was an ideology that sprung forth from the grass root perplexities.
@@edwardhadnot1319 bro they can push what they want to push but this isn't the majority political line...you can have sheep's in the mist of wolves but they don't make the sheeps wolves or make them safe among them...they can hold on to old memories and try in their mind to live or believe in this but this don't make it a reality
@@MuhammadAli-tb3cl But to be honest the surname is irrelevant. Because the Hoover Legacy wasn't built by Crips, Gangstas nor Crims. It was established by alot of solid Brothers in the 1970's from Joe, Battles, Bam, Bloodstone ,TS and others. To the Ultra-Violent / Scanless Hoovers of the 80's to the Young Active Hoover in the 90s to the Watered dowm Version we've seen for the last 2 decades.
They was, if the Hoover Crips never existed a lot of Crip hoods would still be Brims & Bishops and so on….They Turned Crims in the 90’s we are talking about the 70s and 80’s
@@G-rell213 yeah, I know that but when you say front runners is why I said no. The original crips is front runners. Meaning the Eastside crips and the ones who went to Compton.
@@samuelwright1395 you ain’t from here. That’s a fact. If you are. You just talking out of no where. Because you didn’t state one fact. Out the west came the rest. Compton came out of the west recruitment. And way after the west was already established.
@@G-rell213 you see what the title says right? Okay then....now read what I wrote.....yes I did watch the video....im.talking about the title....think before you speak cuh...
they turned Crim in mid 90s not the 80s... I remember before Astro Hats they wore Georgetown HOYAS (Hoovers On Yo Ass)... my real Hoover Crips Lil Rocc from ETH, Bucc Dooney from 74, Spider Tiny Devil 107, Dre 94 Hoover CRIPS... all that died under Hoover Crip died in vain
That is the crazy part! Fallen gangstas under a Crip flag now they renounce it! I will never disrespect the Hoovers but to drop the Crippin after making a solid name from it! I wonder what the OG's make of all this.
@@lamontscales2645 nothing remain the same in the universe. All of those who died under Crip before the revised ideology isn't dead in vain. All brothers died in vain due to black on black violence. However, the political line dictates that would of being criminals. It is so funny that you and people who talk like you doesn't have an attitude towards Crips who fight and kill crips .. They shouldn't represent CRIP because they are going against Raymond and Tookie political line correct?
Gotta separate the 60s(the era) from the 70s and 80s KRIMINALS were originally just a fight crew (SHAOLIN) but due to good year tire and majestics and a lil bit of weed everything with gangs in LA ARE TWO DIFFERENT WORLDS
The funny part of hearing Hoovers say fuck Crips is how you gonna diss 52 Hoover Crips? The Hoovers at their roots are Crips the older homies still say Cuz and loC. I actually heard a Hoover call a Crip a crab I could not believe it. They still have a Crip subset, 52, talk about 😕 confusion!
I did time with a hoover in county in central cali named lil claw, he had a deformed hand, which is a trip cus that insinuates there is a big claw with a similar condition. I am pretty sure he put crip on it cus thats what he had tattoed. I am white and he was black, so I didn't want to get at him over it cus its not my place, but i was always curious. He had criminal tattoed on him too. Solid dude. Enjoyed his company. Hope he is doing well.
Crips, Bloods,Hoovers,GD,VL, Blackstone,BDs and etc we all are the same and soons as we realize that it’s ⬆️ it don’t take jail or a rocket Scientist to realize this shit but respect to all from chicago
52 are still Crips and 52 and 92 are the originals and were called gladiators and before that baby del Vikings in the 60’s 74 didn’t come till the 70s and didn’t receive recognition till the 80’s Throughout the 1980s, the 52 Hoover Gangster Crips and the 74 Hoover Criminal Gang were key players in the drug trade business, operating several drug houses across South Central Los Angeles. Federal agents and local authorities believed the 52 Hoovers and 74 Hoovers were earning as much as $500.000 to $1 million dollars in cash every month.
@Brenton Iverson these cats dont know they history 92 and 52 the originals and believe me the 52 are a major factor!!! 52 and 92 were called gladiators and before that they were baby del Vikings to become gladiators in the 60’s 74 didn’t com till the late 70’s and didn’t receive real recognition till the 80’s! Throughout the 1980s, the 52 Hoover Gangster Crips and the 74 Hoover Criminal Gang were key players in the drug trade business, operating several drug houses across South Central Los Angeles. Federal agents and local authorities believed the 52 Hoovers and 74 Hoovers were earning as much as $500.000 to $1 million dollars in cash every month.
If u wernt born in the early 80s there ain't no reason to beef cause everyone beef off shit they wernt involved in nomatter what if u from the set now were u there when the beef started is what really matters ... I'm passing threw LA never seen a hoover in 30 years I been there just saying but it's 2022 hood shit is not 1% what it was from clothes to style to slang to respect an loyalty 💯
Homie with the blue got a real good head on his shoulders. He’s gonna get far. Definitely possess leadership qualities.
He started to see the bigger picture and realized he adopted a mindset that’s doesn’t benefit him
Here we go with the leadership nonsense...we the only people stuck on that we need leadership BS....
@@wayofthegun6224 What’s your point?
@@KingFlashyToots try comprehending bro...
@@wayofthegun6224 nah. I can comprehend very well. I asked what’s you’re point?!
He further stated that he asked what was this Ck Bk on the walls and he was told We put Crip killer due to most of our enemies are crips. At this time in 1989, there was a vacuum in the 83 Hoover recruitment as far as youngsters so The 74 Hoover elite clique known as the Bays Bays were in the 83 Hoover terrain making sure that the borders were protected from Manchester to Florence. The writing on the walls was from Baby Shady 74 Hoovers that espoused ckbk which caused the new movement among the youngsters. Baby Shady was one of those individuals who commanded respect and was notoriously known throughout South Central Los Angeles among allies and enemies alike.
@Muhammad Ali;
You Are ABSOLUTELY Right Bro!!✊🏾👌🏾💯
I Met Swole Ass Young
18 Year Old "Baby Shady" In 1992 In
"Wayside Medium North"
& He Admired The Fact That I Didn't Roll Up Outta The Dorm We Was In,
Full Of Hoovers, Me Being From The "O" Car..
He Straight Up TOLD Me That HE
STARTED "74Hoover Criminalz"
And
After Completing My 9 Year Prison Sentence
I Found Out That
"CRIMINALZ" Done Took Over The Whole Hoover Set, Except One..
Damn, That Young Nikk🤡Ka Was A
"G" I Didn't Even Realize It Til I Got Out..
You Spittin' REAL Facts Bro, Cause I Heard It From "Baby Shady" HimSelf..✊🏾👌🏾💯
HOW ONE ORGANIZATION VERY EASILY RULES 👉👈
Deep conversation.
If you gettin laced up from no jumper go play some Fortnite 😂
No jumper putting niggas on the set
Right
Dead homies like niggas say... niggas better come outside. You gotta breath that air.. walk dat line 5 and better get cut shot stabbed be hungry and stop that hunger . Lost friends and got involved with the fake. A nigga gotta tell on you 💯. Well at least that's how I see it. Sorry about the paragraph.
Wym I'm almost a full gang banger off just no jumper videos
Lmbao 👌🏿
Funny I remember somebody said the Hoovers was the "Crippiest of all Crips" 💪😄
Tht be the NHoods the Wesside or the Easside nd im from just from rollin
Facts
The lil Homies ain’t feelin that none groove 😂
You start off as unity to protect one another until civil war breaks out within. That is the inevitable downfall of all gangs around the world.
The independent framework outside the Crip formation placed the Hoover's back as there own identity just like when they were Hoover Groovers.Those who were put on Hoover Criminals and then want to say things such as Hoover Crip 74,83,92,94,107,112 are undermining their put on due to them representing something that contradicts Hoover Criminals
The Hoover Criminals are contradicting all normal standards in the sphere of cripping. This reactionary idea derived from the abnormalities that existed when the Crip on Crip attacks occurred among the 90 Hoover's and 107's. Thus, between the Rolling 60s and 83 gangsters which cemented the break up in south central Los Angeles between Crips.
Hoover Criminals embrace our tribe in totality. Those who are elders and want to remain to the Crip Identity is their perogative. These are individuals and not the collective structure who possess this attitude among non-52 Hoover Criminals. There is no problem when some tribal members say Cuz, or loc.
Hoover Criminals lingo is predicated on words like Hoove, Crim, and Groove when they address their love ones. Hoover is a structure and 716 is bigger than subsets. No one is bigger than Hoover and this concept cannot be superseded by tribal Members.
Hoover Criminals are in every state. The Crips who feel some type of way about Ck being advocated are pure hypocrites if they have Crip enemies. They kill Crips, fight Crips and even cross their hoods out on tattoos. This is a contradiction!
Hoover Criminals will remain a force to be reckoned with until their is change in thinking process of the collective. Hopefully it comes a time when all black brothers unite and be instrumental in building our community... I will anticipate this beautiful day...
What info do you have on the Hoover Groovers, if I may ask.
Go on Kev Mac videos and watch his interview with Tony Stacy. According to Triple O.G Hoover Tony Stacy there was no such thing as a Hoover Groover! He said they started off as Baby Cribs then East Side Crip then Hoover Crip.
That’s real shit Polo 💯
Never got to see jacka do ah interview. This is his type of stage. long live the jacks
Damn dude imagine The Jack on No Jumper maybe we can get a Joe blow or Awax interview at least smh Norcal took a huge loss
Jacka wouldn’t have any part of this conversation.
Hoovers are the original bad boys of the Crip car.
No they not nigga Raymond Washington’s
East cast Crips are the original bad boy of baby Ave Crips!
You definitely not fro LA 😂🤣😂
The East Side Crips was the first Crips n LA and the original bad boy of the Crips car not no Hoover get ur history right
@@edwardblackmon8797Hoovers the wildest then and now
Just like Piru, they considered RUs as the Brand and blood as the lingo
Naw Pirus are Bloods ain't no kard kutting, you can't be a part of the Blood alliance and not be a Blood no matter how big your set is, some Pirus try to push separation but they are still Bloods and Pirus, Piru put the Blood in Bloods.
@@Edmondson_Avenue Amen bro
I will elaborate on this new philosophy and true history of the movement of criminals. In 1989, I loved boogie down productions hip hop artist. They had a song called criminal minded and I sat down bumping this song one day and came with the idea that we are going to be criminals. The sound of Hoover Criminals was that stamp I felt we needed at that time. With my reputation and influence I commence to make this known by writing on all the walls from Manchester and Vermont to Florence and Vermont also down to Figueroa (Hoover criminals CkBk.) I instructed the young 74 Bay bays to write Criminals AND never to write Hoover Crips anymore. Big scooby from 74 Hoover came to see me in 1989, in 83 territory where I spent most of my time at and he asked me why was writing Ck on the walls. I explained that we fight most of the crips so this is why I write it. He basically agreed with my logic and left . I was approached by some notable Elder tribal members from all tribes. They elder Hoover crips didn't like me putting crab killa on the walls. This is understandable because of their memories and experience with the crip machine in the early development of cripping. The war between the eight tray gangsters and the rolling sixthys broke this Crip love apart. Just as these two factions used to be together daily and shared a bond, the bond was broken through blood shed.
How are you honoring the memory of Bulldog who started 83 Hoover Crip? He was a Crips Crip.
Damn, crazy you said ETH was in a vacuum being that they’ve always been the premier Hoover clique. Atleast while I was coming up. I was born in 97 . I remember 81st being the MOST treacherous block in LA. You couldn’t even really hang out there if you wasn’t from Hoover.
That’s polo off black ink Compton
All Hoovers say cuz no matter if they say they not crips or not. They saying cuz throughout the day
im from H-Town and I've been debating with my patnas, since highschool 😂😂🤯🤯
We don't identify as Crips ....LGBTQ-H 😂😂
lmfao
Lol 😂
You from New York talkin on Hoover .. and how u know Nu ?
😂😂😂😂
The Hoover criminals. There has being alot of misinformation and exaggerated notions pertaining to this philosophy and historical relevance in the development of this movement. There was a necessity to counter attack the false concepts and the ambiguities that has left the younger generation of Hoover criminals without a cemented foundation while espousing this ideology in the Lurch. I find it puzzling that you have individuals acting like they are experts on the subject matter when they were not among the elite who push this concept. Just as you have those who are affiliated with east side crips and west side crips with their historical knowledge possessing their own story and accounts of what transpired in their time when the newly founded idea that was embraced by them, and Many were not among those who had influenced the collective Crip idea but were followers. These type of people take credit, or act as if they were a factor
when this isn't the case historically. Likewise, when it comes to the emergence of Hoover criminals penetrating the landscape, and challenging the Hoover Crip mentality, these people was no where to be found in the formulating process of the new identity that emerged from among the 74 Bay Bays. Hoover criminals have went across state lines and their influence has transformed the concept of gang banging becoming the first to take an identity of being a staunch ally of cripping from the beginning, thus rejecting it
[Crip] and advocating a new profound concept such as Blood killer/Crip killer. This position transformed to Anybody killer making Hoover despised by former allies of the crips for such stance. We will get into the History of Hoover with the individual who pressed this into the psyche of Hoovers on the streets in 1989. This new profound Hoover Criminal philosophy have been equated with the Brother Big Hawk from 94th street Hoover while in the
county jail. This have to be analyzed in it's entirety by the readers. If this is to be taken to be true, then you would of had rival enemies who were in close proximity with hoovers mentioning this.
Lowered expectations
He checked if that water tampered with.
Hoover growers is what hoover was first and. They was'nt no crips . They aligned with the crips later two different gangs from the beginning.
A polo remember I took you on your first prison mission foo we laid that shii down lmfao I see you stay free and educated
everything don’t belong on the internet😒
@@hzgx3720 it's public record my guy in the form of a 115
promises don't explain to these internet gangsters
@@purpsmkr7 facts, Town Bizz
@@purpsmkr7 the internet gangster would be the guy randomly reminiscing about going on missions & getting caught in a comment section for the attention of somebody thatvprobably won’t see this anyways. That’s just corny imo
Somebody said Grover’s was trans Crippin. Identify as Crim but really Crip!
These mfers Fr Lost
I feel like labeling yourself a Crip or a Blood doesn't even matter anymore. It's about what neighborhood you're from. I mean look at Rollin 60's and Eight Tray's. They're both Crips but they hate eachother.
U just talking
@@alfredjackson7058 What did I say that was wrong?
That’s more of an east coast thing out west you rep your set/ gang but nyc you see crips and bloods banging on crips and other bloods etc
Over a Female, they was fighting over two bros fuccing the same female and someone ended up being shot. Bros shouldn’t beef behind one female. Especially one fuccing both of you
It's crazy how 20 are rolling but not nh and under 3x gangsta car
Everybody wanna know but no one wants to SHUT up and listen
Hoovers is still Crips
Lies. I'm from Hoover and it's cK on mine.
@@wsh716ver2 y’all still say loc in cuz. Y’all are still crips when I come down to it..
@jaysmoove92333 Hoover was the forerunners of the crip movement, but they was groovers before they was crips and the majority of our enemies are crips. We are not crips. Is America still Great Britain??
@@wsh716ver2 I feel yu… still crips to me tho
Ønk 50’z Hoover ain’t crip cuHz u spazzink WE EBK FYTB‼️
Thats bro from black ink compton
R.I.P. RAYMOND LEE WASHINGTON, #IYKYK
Original Crip!
EASTSIDE huh!!!
If this segment was about the history of the Hoover’s I could understand but these guys are fucking weird!
5duece Hoovers groovers are one of the original Hoover’s and they still pushed a Crip line till this day! Hoovers are Crips
52 is the only Hoover set that still claim crip the rest criminal
@@713DrankCity the point is they are of crip origin and 0riginal 52 Hoover's are crips so the hoover's are still crips
@@kushtaseti4336 it’s more than just 52 Hoover and the other sets that are Hoover dropped crip due to beefs with crip sets such as all neighborhoods and 83 gangster crips
@@713DrankCity you definitely not gettin what he sayin
52 is not the original. But they are solid and major factors in this Hoover shit
Front runner of the crips is a bit of a reach
Real question, why yall still say cuh,or cuz however yall say it and yall hoovers but not crips
All Hoovers ain’t criminals, like T-Rell he a Crip, The other dudes are criminals and they say Groove, not Cuh, or cuz
@@G-rell213 ok fasho I get it thanks for the clarification bra bra
@@G-rell213 nah those niggas say cuh too and blood lol
MILK74 says loc but he said it's short for Loco...idk why the crips say it tho.
@@ricanking20 hoover is a black gang not an ese gang so why would a black gang do that? They so loc cause they were crips and old habits die hard. Loc is a crip word nomatter what milk told you lol
Tell 5duece Hoover’s they not Crips 🤦🏿♂️
So why they let the criminals write CK? That don’t make sense. Do you see any neighborhoods write CK?😭
52 is super crips. Hoovers in general is CK but, they cool with a few crips which is confusing
Y’all just stop y’all don’t know what y’all talkin bout
@@SavoThaGaskid Hoovers were originally gangster Crips and 5duece Hoover’s are still Crips dummy! 🖕🏿
See what adam doing here
It's sad but they not cappin though I mean it's possible 🤷🏾 but in this generation they don't wanna hear no peace but at the same time you got homies getting tired of killing each other that shit is getting old boring so what can we do to stop it? The cycle keeps on continue til enough is enough. Yeah hopefully our ppls can come together one day til then only time will tell ✊🏾
Those that don’t want peace you gotta eliminate. It’s bigger than ego and hot heads. United front will kill everything.
Tookie use to run with the Hoovers in prison and when he was out
Ingnerice can be a good and bad thing at the same time.crazy.
Bro define ingnerice cause I NEED to know 👀
@@jungle7183 lmaooooooo
Ironic aint it
Damn this comment made my night 😂😂😂😂😂
Question: does Hoovers beef with gangster crips too? 🧐
Nope, 52 Hoovers are Gangster Crips, the only gangster Crips they don’t get along with are 87 Gangster Crip who are basically runaway Hoovers
@@G-rell213 Thanks brother, but does the Hoover Criminals beef with the Gangster Crips, just like they beef with the Neighborhood Crips? Respectfully, I just wanted to know…
@@kingjoethegreat Nope they don’t beef with GC that’s their Allies.
The way they talk they don't have no experience they got into it just cecause cuz
No crip from the east side or west side have never mentioned this Hoover Criminal philosophy that emerged in the Los Angeles County Jail I989. You had numerous reputable crips in the county jail in 1989 and no one has never heard of this . Tony Stacy a reputable 74th street Hoover would of knew of this movement while in prison coming from the county jail or met Older Hoovers coming from the county jail representing Hoover Criminal. However, this isn't the case. Secondly, Big Hawk would of had his own tribal members advocating this idea on the streets. This wasn't the case either. Big Crazy from 94 Hoover paroled in 1990s and he was instrumental with leading 94 Hoovers and he wasn't talking about Hoover Criminal. He was representing Hoover Crip In 1990. Thirdly, to get this message out to the public there would have to be a crew of 94 Hoovers on the front line and this mostly have to be the
young soilders who are the most active to materialize this new 94 Hoover criminal philosophy. There is no evidence of this historically . All of the young 94 Hoovers at that time in 1989 were few and unable to influence 74s, 83s, 92s,107s 112s and 59s to adopt Hoover criminals vs Hoover Crips...In my conclusion In dealing with this misinformation, I must confess, I was on the phone with Hoovers in 1989 who were confined in the Los Angeles county, and Big Hawk was one of them. He *Never* told me anything about Hoover criminals! Why would Big Hawk not inform a young Hoover that was well known by all Hoovers [Young and old
] and who had influence on every Young Hoover from 52-112th street about this monumental philosophy that was going to be an ATOMIC BOMB on the streets? On UA-cam, Baby Boo from 94th street give an account that need to be examined. In the UA-cam video[ Hoover
Criminals documentary response/official video] he clearly mentioned how he left camp and went into the 80s referring to 83 Hoover territory and he witnessed on the walls Ck Bk .
They were mad about Tookie dissing them in his book. Tookie was the first to mention Hoover Groover. Basically he dissed them for not doing anything for him while he was locked up. Hoover’s had all of that money and didn’t do anything for Tookie for as to pay for him a lawyer or nothing that is why he delegitimized them as authentic Crips.
@@bs10098121 stop talking no sense talk!!!! You are talking about things you have no knowledge of. It isn't no Hoover's job to get Tookie a lawyer... Hoover's are not obligated to do anything for him this is ridiculous....blah blah blah you ain't talking about Nothing
The Hoover’s founders were originally from the east side who set up shop on the west. And became damn near as deep as the main west side Crips. But from what I can see they were subordinate to Tookie also.
So boo Manson wasn’t speaking facts?
@@2288bigman HE was speaking facts...I mentioned the comrade due to the facts he spoke in his documentary about coming from camp and going into the 80s and being laced about the resaon we crossed out crip on the walls...im the one he spoke to directly...this my comrade
A real cease fire will never happen with the crips and bloods because unlike other gangs where the shot callers are the older OG members; that's not the case with crips and bloods. The most active call the shots, because they don't respect you unless you're actually putting in work. Doesn't matter much what work you put in before they were banging. And like dude said, these young cats ain't hearing no cease fire. They gotta make a name for themselves and can't do that if there's a cease fire. Shit is sad, because of they did stop beefing and just focused on making money... together or separately...they could be the most powerful thing to ever happen to the black community. The very thing that's been hitting our community the hardest, could be the very thing to put us on top. Too bad it's the kids that's running the show. 😏
Y’all not Crips but y’all still say Cuzz 😂
Crim street
For all of u action like u don't know the 70s and some of the 80s everybody and i mean everybody from grage ave to downtown LA was LA Brim
By the 90s (the era) false claimers claiming gang junction gangs (which get ppl beat or dp'd playing with ppls names) HENCE WHY ALL THE OGs don't really push shyt whether for the hood or for activities (SHOUTOUT TO THE BROTHERS PUSHING BLACK POWER U CANT OUTSMART WHAT YOU DONT KNOW) 2000s to ?? ( WHAT CAN WE DO?) NOT JUST LA BUT YOU GET THE POINT
Dez nughas fruHty 🤞🏽🤣
This Made alot of people annoyed besides the Hoover's. The 83 gangster crips and I had a strong relationship so they came over to our side to ask me what is up with the ck on the walls. Baby spike, baby Cdog, Lil Evil, etc and other active 83gc were made aware of my thoughts. Many was telling me don't write that on there side. (Meaning across Vermont and 84th )This attitude was carried by the 52 Hoover gangster crips in 1989. There was never a problem with the tribal members from 52 Hoover's who represented HGC. Many of the frontliners we're my intimate comrades and they never opposed me or what I was pushing . The 59 Hoover's young warriors at that time embraced the concept and they removed crip and advocated Criminals. The young 59s,74s 83s, 92s,94s, 107s and 112s embraced the criminal philosophy and when I was sent to camp in 1990 I pushed Hoover criminals and when i got to California Youth Authority in 1991, I pushed Hoover criminals and all the young hoovers pushed this concept thru juvenile facility's putting the stamp on this movement.(Except 52 Hoovers)
I understand your logic yes Crip on Crip violence probably would make one rethink their Crippin. However Hoover Crips had a well known history with their Crippin. Futhermore, I think it breeds confusion. I do respect the logic but to go from serious Crippin to writing Ck on the wall was a culture shock. I got homeboys that are Hoover Criminals but had I not known better they Cripped out. Yes yall was original Hoover groovers But the hoovers was very well known for their Crippin. So far it has held pretty good with the change but I see a bit of confusion among some Hoovers.
History of Hoover being Crip is irrelevant. Hoover criminals started with seven foes. Hoover criminals was introduced without concerned about what others thought. Wether it was allies or other Hoover's bro. When the mandate became a cause there is no room for negotiation or compromise. It was an ideology that sprung forth from the grass root perplexities.
So it's safety to Say that Criminal is a Generational thing, because every Hoover I know (50 & up) from 52 to 112 still push Crip.
@@edwardhadnot1319 bro they can push what they want to push but this isn't the majority political line...you can have sheep's in the mist of wolves but they don't make the sheeps wolves or make them safe among them...they can hold on to old memories and try in their mind to live or believe in this but this don't make it a reality
@@MuhammadAli-tb3cl But to be honest the surname is irrelevant. Because the Hoover Legacy wasn't built by Crips, Gangstas nor Crims. It was established by alot of solid Brothers in the 1970's from Joe, Battles, Bam, Bloodstone ,TS and others. To the Ultra-Violent / Scanless Hoovers of the 80's to the Young Active Hoover in the 90s to the Watered dowm Version we've seen for the last 2 decades.
I’m not nko crip SELØ
Selo got hell from South Los
South Los pushed you out yo hkood
@@KINGMAYABZE you’re a net banger. Lol. You always disrespecting. Lol. At least keep it factual. Lol. Your a mark
I’m Hoover Crip/92. Can’t switch up. My locs pushed it. I was put on as one. But of course I’m a criminal too. Hope that work. Lol. It is what it is.
@@TheSouthernStatus how you a crip saying ck bk ?
100
Wgaf
Hoover's was not the front runner of crips. But there is Hoover criminal gang. Then there is Hoover gangsta crip.
They was, if the Hoover Crips never existed a lot of Crip hoods would still be Brims & Bishops and so on….They Turned Crims in the 90’s we are talking about the 70s and 80’s
@@G-rell213 yeah, I know that but when you say front runners is why I said no. The original crips is front runners. Meaning the Eastside crips and the ones who went to Compton.
Be quiet. Everybody think they know something but not even from it. Lol.
@@TheSouthernStatus you don't know where I'm from.
@@samuelwright1395 you ain’t from here. That’s a fact. If you are. You just talking out of no where. Because you didn’t state one fact. Out the west came the rest. Compton came out of the west recruitment. And way after the west was already established.
They not front-runners of Crips....only 5 duce is a crip set.....learn the real....
Did you even watch the video? They talking about history, not today
@@G-rell213 you see what the title says right? Okay then....now read what I wrote.....yes I did watch the video....im.talking about the title....think before you speak cuh...
@@_bluegas_64 Hoovers was frontline Crips tho fuck are you talkin bout 🤣🤣🤣
@@_bluegas_64 the title said “ Hoover Criminal History” u wrong cuh don’t speak on shit you don’t know
@@G-rell213 bro none of these dudes are paying attention to what’s being said in this interview it’s sad smh
So are y'all crips or not...stop going in circles and confusing us
52 are still crips.
Yes Hoovers are still Crips
They are crips, everybody else sees them as crips, Bloods view them as crips and other crip set do too.
they turned Crim in mid 90s not the 80s... I remember before Astro Hats they wore Georgetown HOYAS (Hoovers On Yo Ass)... my real Hoover Crips Lil Rocc from ETH, Bucc Dooney from 74, Spider Tiny Devil 107, Dre 94 Hoover CRIPS... all that died under Hoover Crip died in vain
Facts!
Don’t leave out 52 Crip they a major factor
That is the crazy part! Fallen gangstas under a Crip flag now they renounce it! I will never disrespect the Hoovers but to drop the Crippin after making a solid name from it! I wonder what the OG's make of all this.
Your data is incorrect... The ideology of criminals arose in 1989 bro. 74s are the first to initiate this concept and Ck
@@lamontscales2645 nothing remain the same in the universe. All of those who died under Crip before the revised ideology isn't dead in vain. All brothers died in vain due to black on black violence. However, the political line dictates that would of being criminals. It is so funny that you and people who talk like you doesn't have an attitude towards Crips who fight and kill crips .. They shouldn't represent CRIP because they are going against Raymond and Tookie political line correct?
Gotta separate the 60s(the era) from the 70s and 80s KRIMINALS were originally just a fight crew (SHAOLIN) but due to good year tire and majestics and a lil bit of weed everything with gangs in LA ARE TWO DIFFERENT WORLDS
The funny part of hearing Hoovers say fuck Crips is how you gonna diss 52 Hoover Crips? The Hoovers at their roots are Crips the older homies still say Cuz and loC. I actually heard a Hoover call a Crip a crab I could not believe it. They still have a Crip subset, 52, talk about 😕 confusion!
Crips call other enemy crips crabs too.You obvious know nothing of LA gangbangin.🤣🤣
Yea that shit doesn’t make sense at all an how do the 52 Hoovers feel regarding the other sets out they umbrella dissing their last name “Crip”
Yea that shit doesn’t make sense at all an how do the 52 Hoovers feel regarding the other sets out they umbrella dissing their last name “Crip”
@@hoodsta_Pizzo Man I heard a Hoover call a Crip a Crab I was like yo
@@hoodsta_Pizzo they care more abound their real set hoover over crips!
Hoovers were around before crips!
I did time with a hoover in county in central cali named lil claw, he had a deformed hand, which is a trip cus that insinuates there is a big claw with a similar condition. I am pretty sure he put crip on it cus thats what he had tattoed. I am white and he was black, so I didn't want to get at him over it cus its not my place, but i was always curious. He had criminal tattoed on him too. Solid dude. Enjoyed his company. Hope he is doing well.
He might be from 52 cuz they crips n hoovers
Fuck no. He probably had crip before. Hoover went criminal
@@hellopeople7953 52 is gangsta crips not the 74
I think he from 94. Hoover
.....Lil claw .😭🤐
Crips, Bloods,Hoovers,GD,VL, Blackstone,BDs and etc we all are the same and soons as we realize that it’s ⬆️ it don’t take jail or a rocket Scientist to realize this shit but respect to all from chicago
Yea but naw cuz it's politics
They all came froM the black panther era!✊🏿
Nah we all family by blood foreal all yall grannies come from the south its supposed to be that way Birmingham,al checkin in free Larry Hoover✡️✡️✡️
52 are still Crips and 52 and 92 are the originals and were called gladiators and before that baby del Vikings in the 60’s
74 didn’t come till the 70s and didn’t receive recognition till the 80’s
Throughout the 1980s, the 52 Hoover Gangster Crips and the 74 Hoover Criminal Gang were key players in the drug trade business, operating several drug houses across South Central Los Angeles. Federal agents and local authorities believed the 52 Hoovers and 74 Hoovers were earning as much as $500.000 to $1 million dollars in cash every month.
you on wikipedia cop n pasting or
52 originals?
@Brenton Iverson these cats dont know they history 92 and 52 the originals and believe me the 52 are a major factor!!! 52 and 92 were called gladiators and before that they were baby del Vikings to become gladiators in the 60’s
74 didn’t com till the late 70’s and didn’t receive real recognition till the 80’s!
Throughout the 1980s, the 52 Hoover Gangster Crips and the 74 Hoover Criminal Gang were key players in the drug trade business, operating several drug houses across South Central Los Angeles. Federal agents and local authorities believed the 52 Hoovers and 74 Hoovers were earning as much as $500.000 to $1 million dollars in cash every month.
W74HCG 👉🍊👈. EBK ABK BK NK MK CK. Gr74ve gang ør dønk’t bkankg
Nigga I'm 52 and I think for myself I fight a lot of 60's and 40's I AINT NO CRIP IM 52 HOOVER CRIM NIGGA that's what the fuck going on! Fuck a crip
Hoover ninja: I’m not gonna let no one take anything from my history.
Jew guy: 😮💨👌🏻
Hkoover Criminals got scared an turnt they flag orange
Make that make sense
That's some deep shit bro
I FaceTimed cuHz before he reall wit the shits‼️ on 50’z
Drop out crips
“And you might die tryna save that life” damn..
If u wernt born in the early 80s there ain't no reason to beef cause everyone beef off shit they wernt involved in nomatter what if u from the set now were u there when the beef started is what really matters ... I'm passing threw LA never seen a hoover in 30 years I been there just saying but it's 2022 hood shit is not 1% what it was from clothes to style to slang to respect an loyalty 💯
He low key pressed trell he said fuc crip lol
You clearly didn’t listen to what he was saying if you think he was pressing trell
They're the first gang to add different streets to their gang like 43 92 107
Lol never Coast!!
@@lylegibbs912 snoo was then?
@@eccomz76st time to watch KMV search EC.
@@lylegibbs912 snoovers started first Cuzz.
Coming from peace makers wit F13😂