It's honestly a little hilarious to me that the Rockets are clearly building around Sengun now and yet Jalen Green still plays like he's the franchise player still and it's clearly affected how the team has played this season.
How does jalen play like he’s the franchise player? Lmao he’s been playing more off the ball this year and the rockets offense has mostly been vanvleet and sengun pick and roll. Even udoka said he wants jalen to be more aggressive on the offensive end
@@MichaelJordann23 his shot selection is ass. His 3P% isn't even that terrible (33.1 which is still around his career average) but his 2s have progressively gotten worse (50% his rookie season to 44% this year) which is why he's shooting under 40% this season. For a guy who's supposed to be a "bucket", he's legitimately terrible at doing that.
The future of the Rockets is Sengun. If the Rockets think he can be a Jokic type player then you need high iq players who can cut and move off the ball. You can see that vision with Fred, Smith, and to a lesser extent Brooks. Jalen Green as of now doesn’t fit that mold and so the fit has gotten awkward and with potential contact extensions looming you do wonder about Green’s future in Houston. I also think drafting Thompson and Whitmore make him more expendable than he previously was due to their upside and contract control.
Two years of Stephen Silas has really done Jalen Green a lot of harm; just allowing him way too many touches and to chuck up shots has developed some really bad habits that you can see he’s fighting constantly. He looks uncertain and like he’s overthinking things a lot. I think he can become workable with more practice, but his ceiling seems more like sparkplug 6th man. What worries me the most is that he hasn’t developed enough strength to reliably finish through contact. 3rd year is when you see that strength typically start to develop.
To be fair that was always the concern. Silas certainly didn't help because he enabled Green, but there's a reason he was drawing Zach LaVine comparisons. (And it wasn't meant as a compliment.) Even when he was drafted, I understood why Houston took the shot -- if he could hone his talent he's basically a bigger and more athletic Donovan Mitchell -- but he had J.R. Smith written all over him so I always saw his most likely outcome as a sparkplug sixth man on a good team.
I don't blame Silas. I blame myself if I was Green....not using the opportunity wisely. He's so lucky actually. Other players like Remy Martin, Kihei Clark, and Ron Harper Jr didn't get such opportunities but I think all 3 are better players than him.
@@aboutmillions The front office decides what offense they run? The front office is instructing players on defensive fundamentals and deciding playing time? The front office is on the locker room during games and in practice everyday? Lol. Ok
Jalen Green lovers want to blame Silas instead of blaming Jalen Green. All y’all idiots were calling this boy the next Kobe or next Jordan. Those of us who saw Kobe and Jordan play said nope, he’s not them. And we got laughed at and called old heads.
As a rockets fan sengun needs to be surrounded by 3 and D players like the nuggets with jokic and jalen doesn’t exactly meet that criteria since he isn’t a great shooter or defender. He was supposed to be what Murray is to jokic but he’s too inefficient for that. Sengun needs a co star next to him and I don’t think jalen will ever be that guy. I think it would be better for us trading him and look to acquire a star to pair with sengun
Jabari, Tari, Amen and Whitmore all have secondary star ceilings they should move Green to the bench or trade him but they don’t need to trade for another star Sengun is only 21 and those other young guys should develop
@@sageofcausality173Sengun, Smith, Eason, Whitmore are all about his age, even younger and they're all ahead of him. Just that Sadako not giving Whitmore opportunities. Eason actually had to be really good each second on the floor as he was on tight leash but he was able to break through. If Green was in Eason's situation before, he would have been gone like Nix, Josh, Garuba and Tyty. I actually like Nix, he could have been developed.
@bigradwolf5001 all the players you just named are inconsistent af beside maybe sengun,Jalen just had a great game dropping 30 points on great efficiency,like I said he still finding his rhythm just like Jabari,amen and Tari
r/Rockets had to finally put down the Jalen Green threads. "Can't shoot. Can't dribble. Can't pass. Can't defend." Was a quote I found in one of those said threads. May be an oversimplification. But I can see it. Lol
Trade Jalen green will be a big mistake for the Rockets. Yah maybe he has just bad for this first quarter of the season, but he'll probably comebak with his brilliant form because he is a natural good player a superstar in nature. Rocket management knew about it.
@@ROCKBETHENAMEyou don’t need to watch five years of bad shot selection, no defense, no playmaking ability to know he can’t play. Hasn’t even tried to make an adjustment. It’s gotten so bad he’s become unplayable in crunch time during close games.
Love your upload schedule. I go to you before any one on tv. I only watch Thunder games so I love seeing summaries of the other games going on around the league.
Jalen is definitely soul searching. Still trying to figure out his identity. Once he fixes that, i still believe he'll be better than Lavine once he reaches his prime.
I didn’t like Dillon Brooks last year because he was just a nuisance. I was not a fan of how the Grizzlies did him in the end though and I’m glad that he seems to have found a team where he fits in well and he can be productive.
I disagree, with your analysis. Jalen Green is no doubt a all around player. He can do ins and outs. You know what your missing? It's the coaching part. New kids on the block is aggressive and that should be part of coaching kicks in. They can be tame until they become refined and learned
Yall are some goofies, I been messing with green since high school, yes his efficiency sucks and he hasn't played to what a lottery pick should play like. But yall need to understand he's playing with no names and on a trash franchise and him chucking up shots is because of shitty coaching giving him the green light, and to people saying he's not developing quickly need to check them selves and realize Klay Thompson didn't average 20 points till his 4 year, and that was on a terrible warriors team. I'm not saying he cant develop and become a better player cause he needs to for sure, but for his situation he doing pretty good.
i fel so bad for jalen mannnnnn, i love his game his dunking ability is on the same level as ja in my opinion, he just needs to get his shooting better and focus on not forcing so much shots, that young man has all the talent and i hope this isnt the end for him
as a Rockets fan, Sengun is the future. Honestly out of all of our young pieces, Jalen might be the least of value at this point. Sengun is an allstar, Jabari is averaging the same box stats on wayyyy better shooting, he needs more shots. Amen hasn't played much due to injury but shows potential to be the PG of the future. Whitmore has shined in his limited minutes. Tari Eason has been the ultimate hustleman off the bench and has shown serious development. I hope im wrong about Green but if there was one young player I have to get rid of, I would pick him unfortunately.
all the interviews ive ever seen with him, he clearly has a very high opinion of himself. calling himself a "bucket" and acting like he's a generational talent. and his physical tools are really good, but you can't tell me that he cares or works hard because if he did, we would see some signs of improvement by year 3. the fact that he's still the same guy right now in the middle of year 3 that he was when he walked in the building, that's a really bad sign. as a heat fan, i watched tyler herro have some similar issues early in his career, inconsistency and lack of ability to get to the rim or get to his spots in the mid range, but by year 3, he had added muscle and worked on his game and he won 6th man of the year after showing very noticeable improvement. im just not seeing that with Jalen unfortunately, and he has way more potential than tyler ever did. i think he just lacks actual passion for the game, he just wants to get his numbers and play YMCA style pickup ball.
@@harukomeyers7073 Do not put all the blame on Silas. He was not a good coach but the player is to blame for this. It has been nearly 8 months since Silas was gone. Jalen has had nearly 30 games under Ime's coaching. He should have changed his mentality by now. I bet even if after the next 2 years, Jalen will be where he is now.
He's not a Jr Smith. Jr had unreasonable confidence Jaylen struggles with confidence and honestly knowing what to do on the court. He doesnt understand where is shots should come from and if he isn't hot he shouldn't take certain shots. His style of play makes it hard. I think he should just try to average 15 on decent efficiency and try to gradually add parts to his game rather than trying to use half mastered skills.
Those excuses don’t matter, being in your THIRD year and still have no improvments on your offensive toolset is concerning. Its gonna be 2025 and we’re still gonna have people saying to “be patient🥺🥺🥺”
@@borntokilldiaz No improvement is crazy for a guy avg dam near 20pts a game on a rookie contract and it ain't even 2024 yet you'll be on his nutz by 2025 pipe down
If you REALLY watch the highlights…and pay CLOSE attention to the DEFENSE, you can see that the league defense is so lazy. NO ONE REALLY PLAYS defense. Shai, Chet…etc look like they are moving in molasses ..and the defense is not even trying for real. These dudes are slow and unathletic. They score because there is absolutely NO DEFENSE really being played. The effort on that end is terrible. Watch it closely. Shai is not that good. He is just tall and there is no defense. THIS is why all of these ‘30 ppg’ players are not SUPERSTARS to the majority of the world, like they would have been in any other era because scoring 30 was damn near impossible because of REAL defense. These guys are not having any real resistance..and the fans know it. If they were truly as great as the numbers say….Jordan would have been eclipsed in stardom, long ago..and the fan base would be so large and voracious that it would be close to NFL level..but it is not, because we all can tell that players like Halliburton look like hurky jerky tall guys shooting around outside.
More than facts no one care about modern day superstar its akin to once valued product being affordable to everyone now . Superstars aren’t really superstar anymore .everyone is a superstar on nba teams now use to be handful but because the leagues has defined in quality all these players just pop off for big numbers there no originality like Jordan and even in lebrons era.
Jalen Green has always felt like a 2000s-style star trying to play in 2023 and.... I just don't think it is going to work. If he's gonna become a dude, he's gonna have to change his approach to the game.
He would have done worse in the 2000's where they were more defensive oriented. You put like a Ron Artest or a Gary Payton on him and he would struggle more. Nowadays, players play more fast paced and stay away from the ball so they can run the court more freely and jack up more shots which is why it's more high scoring.
I'm usually not the type to defend players like that(unless it's my pookie bear bron bron)but jalen is still young and just got a new coach and believe it or not his defense has gotten way better so he is showing improvement,not everybody is bron,tatum,kobe or mj 😂
For me it appears FVV is taking a step backwards due to being paired with JG. FVV is hucking up too many bad shots because he has no faith in JG to make good decisions. At this point I’d love to see Holiday start at the 2. He’s a better decision maker and more efficient shooter. I would not even mind Amen starting next to FVV. Amen can’t shoot the side of a barn, but he’s an excellent finisher and has excellent defensive instincts. My biggest concern about this roster is 3pt shooting efficiency. We have nobody shooting above league average.
The dude's role in the offense has been reduced (less minutes, less touches, has taken less threes and less FTs). VanVleet has focused on feeding Senguin because, well, he is the closest thing to a guaranteed bucket in the paint on that team. More shots are going to Brooks because he has turned into Steph Curry this year. Of course his offensive output is going to be lower. The kid is 21 years old (and is learning a new role). Brooks will come back to earth.
My friends and I were watching the rockets early in the season, and we're getting passed with them refusing tk pass to Green lmao. I guess it hasn't changed.
Easily maintained, NO. For much of the season he was shooting beyond 50% from 3 and is currently shooting statistically the same as Steph Curry at 41%. His TS percentage is almost 10% better than his career average and field goal percentage is almost 6% better. Even his FT percentage is elevated. Brooks will not be Steph Curry for an entire season. No way. You have noticed his numbers have recently begun to fall and along with it, Houston's record. @@borntokilldiaz
Any player being drafted from the G-League Ignite, should NEVER EVER EVER be drafted as a lottery pick. Those G-League Ignite players are red flags. At most, they should be immediately considered as 2nd Round draft picks...not even late 1st round.
I said he’s been awful and everyone kept saying “wait til he’s on a good team and you’ll see how good he is!” Now that he’s on a good team, it’s stood out even more that his team is good and he’s just not.
I like Gilbert's arena show but they be trying to push Jalen green like he's the next big thing 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. They said New York Knicks need a star like him😂😂😂😂😂😂 so they going to trade of proven All Star bucket getter for Bronson for Jalen green because he's more marketable? Stfu Gil
LOL even if this is true about Jalen Green's game, why would you trade him at his worst value? Someone will get him at a bargain. Give him a year to develop with a new coach and veterans on the court. If anything, we will get a deal on his next contract. Not all players develop at the same rate.
He’s Zach Lavine’ish. Really talented player but his feel for the game is off. Even when they play well, even tho Jalen hasn’t in awhile, it’s never within the flow of the game.
Ngl it's funny because people aren't seeing the vision. The nuggets are the template for the rockets to follow. Let me break it down--> The nuggets had almost everything figured out until Jamal Murray solidified his role in 2020. That closer who comes up clutch when the nuggets need it. But it took him like 6( Drafted in 2014) to get there. Murray and Jalen had similar knocks on them: "Inconsistent, not a real PG, etc". Nuggets/ Rockets: Jokic/ Sengun (All star/All Nba center) MPJ/JSJ (Star PF) KCP/Vanvleet ( lockdown 1/2) Gordon/ Dillon Brooks ( defensive 3/4) Fill in their bench pieces Nuggets then have Murray playing offball and onball when needed. Jalen can take that role if he embraces it more consistently. He built up some bad habits under Silas and you can't expect him to just shed those habits in one season. Rockets should offer him a 4 year like 100 mill contract (or whatever the lowscale extension will be with the new salary cap)-- but NOT anything like 160 mill. He needs to prove himself, just like Murray had to.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Only comment I found that makes some mf sense. The rest of these idiots are like "trade him because he not avg 30 on 50% from the field" what a bunch of hate filled losers they are.
Jalen green thinks he is anthony edwards but he is really terry rozier. No slight to rozier or green but they are role players, rozier has found a groove the jury will be out on jalen green till his next contract
I would only contend with the defense from Green. He's been much improved on defense, but still has a way to go. Given how young he is and the flashes he's shown, I'm still in on him. I will agree that right now, he isn't looking great.
He's got low basketball IQ. When an opponent takes a 3, he does not have intelligence to know bounce of ball will be low. He keeps on going toward the paint and the opponents keep getting the ball. Long rebounds is job of perimeter defenders like him.
Coach Sadako is clueless. First he said he's not happy with the 0.500 record BUT then, he is clueless seeing how many minutes Jalen gets that turns to negative 5 points when on floor.
These g league players str8 out of high school ain’t it look at scoot. I wouldn’t draft these kids, you gotta grab the blue blood college kids look at Orlando’s pg they drafted, look at lively… just saying
As someone who's always been lower on Jalen Green than most, him turning out to be a fraud doesn't make me happy on its own, but I caught some shit for thinking he was D+ Zach LaVine, so it's pretty vindicating, even if I want most players, him included, to be good
You made good call. I was high on Green and gave him 2 seasons to develop. Displeased with what I'm seeing so want Green to develop in G League ASAP and put Whitmore instead.
One thing I don't understand about Jalen Green is his ability to drive to the basket. With his quick first step and jumping height, how he couldn't finish around the rim?
It's honestly a little hilarious to me that the Rockets are clearly building around Sengun now and yet Jalen Green still plays like he's the franchise player still and it's clearly affected how the team has played this season.
He 🚮 Alpi 🐐
Always said jalen green wss just another jr smith
How does jalen play like he’s the franchise player? Lmao he’s been playing more off the ball this year and the rockets offense has mostly been vanvleet and sengun pick and roll. Even udoka said he wants jalen to be more aggressive on the offensive end
Jalen doesn’t get the ball as much. He’s only hurting the rockets bc of his lack of shooting. He’s been missing wide open 3s and turning the ball over
@@MichaelJordann23 his shot selection is ass. His 3P% isn't even that terrible (33.1 which is still around his career average) but his 2s have progressively gotten worse (50% his rookie season to 44% this year) which is why he's shooting under 40% this season. For a guy who's supposed to be a "bucket", he's legitimately terrible at doing that.
The future of the Rockets is Sengun. If the Rockets think he can be a Jokic type player then you need high iq players who can cut and move off the ball. You can see that vision with Fred, Smith, and to a lesser extent Brooks. Jalen Green as of now doesn’t fit that mold and so the fit has gotten awkward and with potential contact extensions looming you do wonder about Green’s future in Houston. I also think drafting Thompson and Whitmore make him more expendable than he previously was due to their upside and contract control.
Green for Ivey straight up
@@DetroitEast Hell no. Bro why you hate Ivey so much?
@@michaelahurt I like Ivey just seems like Monty doesn't and Monty here to stay so I say trade him for another young talented two
Trade to Pistons for cash consideration if you said so.
Two years of Stephen Silas has really done Jalen Green a lot of harm; just allowing him way too many touches and to chuck up shots has developed some really bad habits that you can see he’s fighting constantly. He looks uncertain and like he’s overthinking things a lot. I think he can become workable with more practice, but his ceiling seems more like sparkplug 6th man. What worries me the most is that he hasn’t developed enough strength to reliably finish through contact. 3rd year is when you see that strength typically start to develop.
To be fair that was always the concern. Silas certainly didn't help because he enabled Green, but there's a reason he was drawing Zach LaVine comparisons. (And it wasn't meant as a compliment.)
Even when he was drafted, I understood why Houston took the shot -- if he could hone his talent he's basically a bigger and more athletic Donovan Mitchell -- but he had J.R. Smith written all over him so I always saw his most likely outcome as a sparkplug sixth man on a good team.
I don't blame Silas. I blame myself if I was Green....not using the opportunity wisely. He's so lucky actually. Other players like Remy Martin, Kihei Clark, and Ron Harper Jr didn't get such opportunities but I think all 3 are better players than him.
You blame Silas like it wasnt the FO that controls this type of shit lol
@@aboutmillions The front office decides what offense they run? The front office is instructing players on defensive fundamentals and deciding playing time? The front office is on the locker room during games and in practice everyday? Lol. Ok
Jalen Green lovers want to blame Silas instead of blaming Jalen Green. All y’all idiots were calling this boy the next Kobe or next Jordan. Those of us who saw Kobe and Jordan play said nope, he’s not them. And we got laughed at and called old heads.
Jalen Green hasn't been the same since they traded his boy Josh Christopher
Ahhh helll naw😂😂😂
He misses his missionary buddt
we shouldnt have traded him. the guy was balling when he knows Josh is watching him from the bench
Rockets fan here. I’ve been saying we need trade him before value hits rock bottom, but he’s got a lot of apologists. 🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Him for Ivey straight up
@@DetroitEast im so down for this trade even with his flaws
@@borntokilldiaz as pistons fan me to
@@DetroitEast as a pistons fan i think the hell not, leave ivey on the pistons
@@nuggiesss6193 I say so too
As a rockets fan sengun needs to be surrounded by 3 and D players like the nuggets with jokic and jalen doesn’t exactly meet that criteria since he isn’t a great shooter or defender. He was supposed to be what Murray is to jokic but he’s too inefficient for that. Sengun needs a co star next to him and I don’t think jalen will ever be that guy. I think it would be better for us trading him and look to acquire a star to pair with sengun
Jabari, Tari, Amen and Whitmore all have secondary star ceilings they should move Green to the bench or trade him but they don’t need to trade for another star Sengun is only 21 and those other young guys should develop
He still young tho,even Jamal had to find his rhythm
@@sageofcausality173Sengun, Smith, Eason, Whitmore are all about his age, even younger and they're all ahead of him. Just that Sadako not giving Whitmore opportunities. Eason actually had to be really good each second on the floor as he was on tight leash but he was able to break through. If Green was in Eason's situation before, he would have been gone like Nix, Josh, Garuba and Tyty. I actually like Nix, he could have been developed.
@bigradwolf5001 all the players you just named are inconsistent af beside maybe sengun,Jalen just had a great game dropping 30 points on great efficiency,like I said he still finding his rhythm just like Jabari,amen and Tari
Jalen green not the problem they just don’t have a solid PG like Murray
Sengun is and has clearly been the best player on the rockets this season and last season as well
r/Rockets had to finally put down the Jalen Green threads.
"Can't shoot. Can't dribble. Can't pass. Can't defend."
Was a quote I found in one of those said threads.
May be an oversimplification. But I can see it. Lol
what thread? Link please.
Trade Jalen green will be a big mistake for the Rockets.
Yah maybe he has just bad for this first quarter of the season, but he'll probably comebak with his brilliant form because he is a natural good player a superstar in nature.
Rocket management knew about it.
He’s a bust
@@Bootyeater999how is he a bust he hasn’t even played 5 years yet lol
@@ROCKBETHENAMEyou don’t need to watch five years of bad shot selection, no defense, no playmaking ability to know he can’t play. Hasn’t even tried to make an adjustment. It’s gotten so bad he’s become unplayable in crunch time during close games.
Love your upload schedule. I go to you before any one on tv.
I only watch Thunder games so I love seeing summaries of the other games going on around the league.
Jalen is definitely soul searching. Still trying to figure out his identity. Once he fixes that, i still believe he'll be better than Lavine once he reaches his prime.
Jalen Green is just 2023’s version of JR Smith on the Denver nuggets.
I didn’t like Dillon Brooks last year because he was just a nuisance. I was not a fan of how the Grizzlies did him in the end though and I’m glad that he seems to have found a team where he fits in well and he can be productive.
I think Jalen Green is more fit for Harlem Globetrotters than in NBA. I think he'll be more happy there instead.
Lmao!
I disagree, with your analysis. Jalen Green is no doubt a all around player. He can do ins and outs. You know what your missing? It's the coaching part. New kids on the block is aggressive and that should be part of coaching kicks in. They can be tame until they become refined and learned
Yall are some goofies, I been messing with green since high school, yes his efficiency sucks and he hasn't played to what a lottery pick should play like. But yall need to understand he's playing with no names and on a trash franchise and him chucking up shots is because of shitty coaching giving him the green light, and to people saying he's not developing quickly need to check them selves and realize Klay Thompson didn't average 20 points till his 4 year, and that was on a terrible warriors team. I'm not saying he cant develop and become a better player cause he needs to for sure, but for his situation he doing pretty good.
He's been killin it since you posted this video. As a Rockets fan, THANK YOU !!
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Sadly, Jordan Poole is 5x the player Jalen Green is. Jalen Green just better lookin person
The Pistons would gladly take him as their next reclamation project behind Knox & Wiseman 🤣
Bruh imagine him on the pistons he was bashing them he said he didn’t even wanna go to detriot after they passed up on him for cade
you forgot Marvin Bagley III as well
Hump gate got him mentally. 😅
i fel so bad for jalen mannnnnn, i love his game his dunking ability is on the same level as ja in my opinion, he just needs to get his shooting better and focus on not forcing so much shots, that young man has all the talent and i hope this isnt the end for him
He's very raw and needs some GLeague time.
as a Rockets fan, Sengun is the future. Honestly out of all of our young pieces, Jalen might be the least of value at this point. Sengun is an allstar, Jabari is averaging the same box stats on wayyyy better shooting, he needs more shots. Amen hasn't played much due to injury but shows potential to be the PG of the future. Whitmore has shined in his limited minutes. Tari Eason has been the ultimate hustleman off the bench and has shown serious development. I hope im wrong about Green but if there was one young player I have to get rid of, I would pick him unfortunately.
Trade him for KJM.
look at jg now.
Jalen green still plays like he’s In high school don’t get me wrong he’s good but bad tendencies
all the interviews ive ever seen with him, he clearly has a very high opinion of himself. calling himself a "bucket" and acting like he's a generational talent. and his physical tools are really good, but you can't tell me that he cares or works hard because if he did, we would see some signs of improvement by year 3. the fact that he's still the same guy right now in the middle of year 3 that he was when he walked in the building, that's a really bad sign. as a heat fan, i watched tyler herro have some similar issues early in his career, inconsistency and lack of ability to get to the rim or get to his spots in the mid range, but by year 3, he had added muscle and worked on his game and he won 6th man of the year after showing very noticeable improvement. im just not seeing that with Jalen unfortunately, and he has way more potential than tyler ever did. i think he just lacks actual passion for the game, he just wants to get his numbers and play YMCA style pickup ball.
Jalen Green is just another jr smith
😂😂🤣🤣
Playing with Stephen Silas for two years will do that to a player.
@@harukomeyers7073 Do not put all the blame on Silas. He was not a good coach but the player is to blame for this. It has been nearly 8 months since Silas was gone. Jalen has had nearly 30 games under Ime's coaching. He should have changed his mentality by now. I bet even if after the next 2 years, Jalen will be where he is now.
He's not a Jr Smith. Jr had unreasonable confidence Jaylen struggles with confidence and honestly knowing what to do on the court. He doesnt understand where is shots should come from and if he isn't hot he shouldn't take certain shots. His style of play makes it hard. I think he should just try to average 15 on decent efficiency and try to gradually add parts to his game rather than trying to use half mastered skills.
Lol he’s 21
Kids a number 2 draft pick
please keep posting vids like this!!! every time yall do, he HOOPS!
Everyone is being dramatic about it. First year with Udoka. 21 years old. He’ll be alright.
true, but its a contract year
He will now be alright. He has an IQ problem which nobody can help with. He does now know the game of basketball at all.
THANK YOU!!!!!!
Those excuses don’t matter, being in your THIRD year and still have no improvments on your offensive toolset is concerning. Its gonna be 2025 and we’re still gonna have people saying to “be patient🥺🥺🥺”
@@borntokilldiaz No improvement is crazy for a guy avg dam near 20pts a game on a rookie contract and it ain't even 2024 yet you'll be on his nutz by 2025 pipe down
I wouldn't trade him yet but put Jalen in GLeague to see if he can surpass Whitmore's numbers.
Jalen Green was clearly a bum from midway through his rookie season. Anyone who thought otherwise wasn’t paying attention.
Yep
green can go, he’s very replaceable, he’ll be expensive soon too!
Was waiting to see your thoughts on OKC the last few games. Love the way we're playing right now.
If you REALLY watch the highlights…and pay CLOSE attention to the DEFENSE, you can see that the league defense is so lazy. NO ONE REALLY PLAYS defense. Shai, Chet…etc look like they are moving in molasses ..and the defense is not even trying for real. These dudes are slow and unathletic. They score because there is absolutely NO DEFENSE really being played. The effort on that end is terrible. Watch it closely. Shai is not that good. He is just tall and there is no defense. THIS is why all of these ‘30 ppg’ players are not SUPERSTARS to the majority of the world, like they would have been in any other era because scoring 30 was damn near impossible because of REAL defense. These guys are not having any real resistance..and the fans know it. If they were truly as great as the numbers say….Jordan would have been eclipsed in stardom, long ago..and the fan base would be so large and voracious that it would be close to NFL level..but it is not, because we all can tell that players like Halliburton look like hurky jerky tall guys shooting around outside.
More than facts no one care about modern day superstar its akin to once valued product being affordable to everyone now . Superstars aren’t really superstar anymore .everyone is a superstar on nba teams now use to be handful but because the leagues has defined in quality all these players just pop off for big numbers there no originality like Jordan and even in lebrons era.
Jalen Green has always felt like a 2000s-style star trying to play in 2023 and.... I just don't think it is going to work. If he's gonna become a dude, he's gonna have to change his approach to the game.
He would have done worse in the 2000's where they were more defensive oriented. You put like a Ron Artest or a Gary Payton on him and he would struggle more. Nowadays, players play more fast paced and stay away from the ball so they can run the court more freely and jack up more shots which is why it's more high scoring.
I'm usually not the type to defend players like that(unless it's my pookie bear bron bron)but jalen is still young and just got a new coach and believe it or not his defense has gotten way better so he is showing improvement,not everybody is bron,tatum,kobe or mj 😂
For me it appears FVV is taking a step backwards due to being paired with JG. FVV is hucking up too many bad shots because he has no faith in JG to make good decisions.
At this point I’d love to see Holiday start at the 2. He’s a better decision maker and more efficient shooter.
I would not even mind Amen starting next to FVV. Amen can’t shoot the side of a barn, but he’s an excellent finisher and has excellent defensive instincts.
My biggest concern about this roster is 3pt shooting efficiency. We have nobody shooting above league average.
look at all these "expert" comments
trade this kid ASAP he dont know how to play as a team
Jalen green is a bust.
And im pinoy, jalen is not pinoy but american though, his grandpa or grandma is pinoy
Truth be told, the Amen Thompson pick essentially marked the end of the Jalen Green superstar experiment in Houston.
The dude's role in the offense has been reduced (less minutes, less touches, has taken less threes and less FTs). VanVleet has focused on feeding Senguin because, well, he is the closest thing to a guaranteed bucket in the paint on that team. More shots are going to Brooks because he has turned into Steph Curry this year. Of course his offensive output is going to be lower.
The kid is 21 years old (and is learning a new role).
Brooks will come back to earth.
My friends and I were watching the rockets early in the season, and we're getting passed with them refusing tk pass to Green lmao. I guess it hasn't changed.
@@Andrew17B yeah. The numbers support what your eyes saw
Brooks can easily stay a reliable shooter and elite defender, he’s shot effecient prior in his career already
Easily maintained, NO. For much of the season he was shooting beyond 50% from 3 and is currently shooting statistically the same as Steph Curry at 41%. His TS percentage is almost 10% better than his career average and field goal percentage is almost 6% better. Even his FT percentage is elevated. Brooks will not be Steph Curry for an entire season. No way. You have noticed his numbers have recently begun to fall and along with it, Houston's record. @@borntokilldiaz
Needs to be 0 minutes for Rockets to win more games. Put him in G League to develop.
Everybody is a expert these days huh and there bro trading jalen so get that out the window
They don't have to extend him this summer!!!!!!!!!!
He is a bust. Time to say it LOL.
Much love Jalen
I hope he goes to a better team
Any player being drafted from the G-League Ignite, should NEVER EVER EVER be drafted as a lottery pick. Those G-League Ignite players are red flags. At most, they should be immediately considered as 2nd Round draft picks...not even late 1st round.
I said he’s been awful and everyone kept saying “wait til he’s on a good team and you’ll see how good he is!” Now that he’s on a good team, it’s stood out even more that his team is good and he’s just not.
He’s overrated
JOHN WALL already told them what’s up. 🤷🏾♂️ either they Adapt or they fall off.
All y’all keep saying build a round sengun like jokic n drop Jalen but you forget jokic has a JAMAL MURRAY Jalen could be that
i dont know.,but i think it is the coach have a problem.,
Rockets will still be terrible with the perfect teqm around sengun he will just be glorified sabonis 🤷🏼♂️
I like Gilbert's arena show but they be trying to push Jalen green like he's the next big thing 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. They said New York Knicks need a star like him😂😂😂😂😂😂 so they going to trade of proven All Star bucket getter for Bronson for Jalen green because he's more marketable? Stfu Gil
Jalen Green is just a shot chucker and a black hole on offense, he's a future JR Smith and I'm being considerate 😅
LOL even if this is true about Jalen Green's game, why would you trade him at his worst value? Someone will get him at a bargain. Give him a year to develop with a new coach and veterans on the court. If anything, we will get a deal on his next contract. Not all players develop at the same rate.
He’s Zach Lavine’ish. Really talented player but his feel for the game is off. Even when they play well, even tho Jalen hasn’t in awhile, it’s never within the flow of the game.
Jalen is just another Jordan Clarkson, Zach Levine etc. Only can score and sometimes can't even be counted on for that.
Green paints his fingernails. As a grown man... That tells you everything u need to know
As a rockets fan a Jalen green quickly trade sounds intriguing af
Jalen Green doesn’t fit with this team he needs to be the guy he isn’t a glue guy he has super qualities but these coaches aren’t using him correctly
It's what happened over the summer
Ngl it's funny because people aren't seeing the vision. The nuggets are the template for the rockets to follow. Let me break it down--> The nuggets had almost everything figured out until Jamal Murray solidified his role in 2020. That closer who comes up clutch when the nuggets need it. But it took him like 6( Drafted in 2014) to get there. Murray and Jalen had similar knocks on them:
"Inconsistent, not a real PG, etc".
Nuggets/ Rockets:
Jokic/ Sengun (All star/All Nba center)
MPJ/JSJ (Star PF)
KCP/Vanvleet ( lockdown 1/2)
Gordon/ Dillon Brooks ( defensive 3/4)
Fill in their bench pieces
Nuggets then have Murray playing offball and onball when needed. Jalen can take that role if he embraces it more consistently. He built up some bad habits under Silas and you can't expect him to just shed those habits in one season. Rockets should offer him a 4 year like 100 mill contract (or whatever the lowscale extension will be with the new salary cap)-- but NOT anything like 160 mill. He needs to prove himself, just like Murray had to.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Only comment I found that makes some mf sense. The rest of these idiots are like "trade him because he not avg 30 on 50% from the field" what a bunch of hate filled losers they are.
It's great to see that Andy Garfield is into basketball
Jalen green thinks he is anthony edwards but he is really terry rozier. No slight to rozier or green but they are role players, rozier has found a groove the jury will be out on jalen green till his next contract
I would only contend with the defense from Green. He's been much improved on defense, but still has a way to go.
Given how young he is and the flashes he's shown, I'm still in on him. I will agree that right now, he isn't looking great.
He's got low basketball IQ. When an opponent takes a 3, he does not have intelligence to know bounce of ball will be low. He keeps on going toward the paint and the opponents keep getting the ball. Long rebounds is job of perimeter defenders like him.
jalen green will be the greatest rocket of all time (im a delusional rockets fan)
honestly, g league ignite players have been a massive flop.
It’s pains me to say this but it’s true. He’s a bust and will never be a star
if Im immanuel quickly im demanding to be traded. Knicks are hindering his development especially coach thibs.
Coach Sadako is clueless. First he said he's not happy with the 0.500 record BUT then, he is clueless seeing how many minutes Jalen gets that turns to negative 5 points when on floor.
Jalen doing better last 2 games let’s hope he can keep it up.
"last 1 game" - fixt
trade green and amen for scottie barnes and a first
U surprised by the Knicks tanking? 😂😂😂 that's y they took him out.. Cant have him winning games and ahhhhh😅😅
These g league players str8 out of high school ain’t it look at scoot. I wouldn’t draft these kids, you gotta grab the blue blood college kids look at Orlando’s pg they drafted, look at lively… just saying
You need 17 minutes man really
Start eating your hearts out.lol
So over KD and his constant bullshit. Like at some point you have to take accountability dude.
J kidd cant make in game adjustments
Jalen Green is a Zach Lavine wannabe
trade Jalen Green for Kuminga?
Green is their best player.
He should just focus on being a slasher first and shooter second. His game will come more naturally
There’s something weird about the NBA career of top prospects drafted from from the G-league.
I don’t really see much of a market for him either.. he’s never proved anything other than he’s a chucker
The James harden curse
They love this guy then hate this guy shows who really watch him play
Ime using him wrong that is why he is regressing
Right Jalen takes horrible shots which results in Ime taking him out.
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Its irrelevant now but kpj wit a sengun lead offense would have been so tough
He was always a chucker and now its being exposed because no one really cared before.
Keegan Murray will go down as the best player from this draft
Jesus is King!
its time to go
Jalen green and RJ Barrett have the same flaws tunnel vision and inconsistency
#NotGood
In my opinion, it seems every youngin listened to john wall…. except jalen
Trade him, get what you can, and move on.
They need to run more P&R for Sengun and Green!! They gotta keep them both
As someone who's always been lower on Jalen Green than most, him turning out to be a fraud doesn't make me happy on its own, but I caught some shit for thinking he was D+ Zach LaVine, so it's pretty vindicating, even if I want most players, him included, to be good
You made good call. I was high on Green and gave him 2 seasons to develop. Displeased with what I'm seeing so want Green to develop in G League ASAP and put Whitmore instead.
One thing I don't understand about Jalen Green is his ability to drive to the basket. With his quick first step and jumping height, how he couldn't finish around the rim?
not strong enough
He’s a buck 80.
For the answers, watch video of his NBA Dunk Contest.
He has small hands
Because most of these new age players don’t touch the weight room. 😂