So the one defense attorney turns away from camera to refresh her lipstick while the judge was giving clarification to having shared attorney’s. She indirectly is saying she is not into this case.
@Dr.FrankCoco unless the evidence is obvious and unambiguous, as is the case here. They failed at parenting except to provide a climate of anger and murderous intent.
@@paulebeardjr9089 When a mob is attacking your home wouldn't you try to go somewhere you couldn't be found? They didn't know what their son was going to do.
Hands are not free to cover mouth while talking to lawyers. Cameras will catch what they say. Someone will read lips, media will leak, unfair trial= miss-trial.
I think it has to do with reading lips. He has a headset on too and his lawyer spoke in to that. It doesn't really make much sense but I think it's so they can't cooperate their stories but who knows
This ruling makes me ecstatic!!!! Praying justice is served on these two horrible parents along with their messed up son!!!!! Lock them all up & throw away the key!!!!!
you want justice to be served on people who did not pull the trigger. People who did not realize the son stole their gun and put it in his book bag that morning.
I want justice to be served on two people who covered up for their son's crime of murdering his fiance & not being honest with her parents or cooperating with the police!!!!! That is what TRUE decent parents & human beings would have done!!!!
@@wraynephew6838 They knew he had the gun and he didn’t steal it. They gave it to him. You should try to be more informed. Your ignorance is destroying our nation.
@@randomdude5938 The gun was not were the father stored it. Which means the child stole it. Try to research this story first before you reveal your own ignorance!
@@wraynephew6838 He took the gun he was given. He did not steal it you ignoramus lol. That's besides the point that the parents didn't tell the school he had the gun you dumb fu#@
They utilize a myriad of colors in the prison system. It often denotes how serious their crime/offender level or to catch the eye if they happen to escape and will also carry a marker of their prison across the back.
@@joeybaseball7352 I am not familiar with their local jail system. It differs from county to county and state to state. I was a gopher for a local defense law firm in TN back in the 90's.
@@joeybaseball7352 Criminal Penalty for Involuntary Manslaughter in Michigan If you are found to have committed the crime of manslaughter, you are guilty of a felony punishable by up to 15 years in prison and a fine of as much as $7,500, according to the Michigan Penal Code ( 750.321 ).
Exactly. She's more evil, she carries more responsibility and he's the pushover, trying and failing to make Jennifer happy. The world revolves around Jennifer. Even Evil Ethan who was probably still breast feeding until he was in prison.
That judge is wacko if she doesn’t see a problem with now two separate firms representing two separate clients since they suddenly dissolved their partnership. I hope they remove this judge since she seems to be partial to the defense.
She has repeatedly asked the Crumbles if they are ok with this pairing of attourneys and each time the Crumbles say it is ok. Clearly the judge does not think this is an good idea especially when the last time she reminded the Crumbles that they dissolved Thier partnership
@@jodievukmir3187 Exactly!! Jennifer wants them to have the same weird situation because there is far more incriminating evidence against her for a harsh sentence than the dad (forgot his name). He’s an idiot. When a judge is asking you questions like this, the judge is to giving very direct advice that this is a very detrimental situation to continue on with. It was a terrible decision from the start. Now it’s worse. Clearly the lawyers don’t agree enough with their own business decisions, hence why they separated their firms. The dad strikes me to be unintelligent and caters to Jennifer’s best interests, even after she was caught having an affair during this horrific murder. Seems someone in his life should give him the slap in the face of a reality check. Potentially being found guilty of murder and spending a life sentence in prison is not worth any loyalty to the narcissistic sociopath known as Jennifer Crumley. The judge might as well be saying “DUDE... you are facing a life sentence if found guilty!!! Now is the time to separate yourself to have a separate trial AND LEGAL COUNSEL!!! Ethan’s trial was purposely moved to January 2023 because the prosecutor wants to convict YOU FIRST!!!!”. Damn.
@@jodievukmir3187 Thank you! I’m curious what “advice” his lawyer has given him, without losing out to the money paid already for future hours yet not billed. Sadly, this guy is likely to fry. I’m not suggesting he’s a good man and did no wrong here, but it’s pretty clear Jennifer lassoed him into going along with her... and he’s too dumb to think for himself. Seems to me he has had a lot of time to think by himself. Fantasy living I suppose.
What’s the point of the dads mask? it’s old and it’s stretched and it looks bloody filthy, so who’s it protecting, no one, so why’s he even got it on? I can’t stand the slipping of the mask under the nose, why wear it?
The two defendants have been caught in the past speaking to each other on zoom and in court so the judge makes the both of the wear it so they won’t communicate back and forth
@@pinky12350 The stupid dad is going to regret this decision to keep the same weird dual law firm council as his evil wife Jennifer. When a judge stops to explain the situation and implications, it’s best to listen, instead of trying to get a glimpse of the chick who cheated on you, dude. Having to wear masks so they don’t communicate is a tad crazy. Nothing they code or mouth back & forth will help either of them. The fact he stays loyal to her shows he’s missing a backbone. It’s nuts.
I agree but I guess you're a clown for believing in our justice system and saying that everyone is innocent until proven guilty. How awful of you! 🙄 I mean, why bother with a trial? Let's just put them on the wall!?
If they did this more often in school or gang related hun violence more parents would think twice about buying firearms for their children or having firearms not properly locked up safely this is a shame but these parents were lazy parents they paid no attention to their only son, at times this boy was left for days and nights alone where he claimed he was afraid and tried to contact both parents whom both ignored him on several occasions. Unfortunately he woke his parents up to realize they are parents by taken a gun and shooting innocent children and teachers. Give them life with parole at least they might learn something being in jail perhaps parenting classes are available their so they can teach other parents not to make the same mistake. DENIED 🙅♀️ ❤️
Wow, this is going to be a zoo. These two defense attorneys now work for their individual firms, so they can still represent these assholes. The parents, especially Dorky the husband is going to regret not taking the Judges warning. Jennifer was the ring leader in that home.
You are absolutely discusting to make such a comment like that, innocent people died that day from their son's outrageous behavior and the parents new about it all so they deserve to be locked up.
Thank you for providing the captions! I can’t hear the proceedings, and I appreciate it!
The audio is horrible! I can't hear it either!
Good cause i thought i was going deaf
@@winning3329 No, it's not you. The audio was horrible! Lol, 😂🤣
So the one defense attorney turns away from camera to refresh her lipstick while the judge was giving clarification to having shared attorney’s. She indirectly is saying she is not into this case.
Plead their case???....please....they know what they did and will be held accountable
@Dr.FrankCoco lock up guns so kids cant access. it should work that way.
@Dr.FrankCoco agreed but when parents run and try to hide just makes them look that much more guilty
@Dr.FrankCoco Mostly the parents from the evidence presented so far. Maybe the counselor. But definitely the parents.
@Dr.FrankCoco unless the evidence is obvious and unambiguous, as is the case here. They failed at parenting except to provide a climate of anger and murderous intent.
@@paulebeardjr9089 When a mob is attacking your home wouldn't you try to go somewhere you couldn't be found? They didn't know what their son was going to do.
Is there somewhere else covering this so I can actually hear the judge??
Can barely hear it.
You want your cameras in the Courtroom get Audio
Once again, the Judge needs a working mic closer to her face. This has been the case each time. Where is her mic?
Notice how she took control of the room by speaking softly… the Crumbley lawyers are super hyped up. Judge won’t go with the wind…
Someone please explain why the defendants are the only ones in the courtroom wearing masks?
Might have an outbreak in the jail
Hands are not free to cover mouth while talking to lawyers. Cameras will catch what they say. Someone will read lips, media will leak, unfair trial= miss-trial.
I think it has to do with reading lips. He has a headset on too and his lawyer spoke in to that. It doesn't really make much sense but I think it's so they can't cooperate their stories but who knows
@@BeckysYarnEscape Could it be to stop the parents from talking to each other.
@@lunamequa yes they got in trouble for that already
This ruling makes me ecstatic!!!! Praying justice is served on these two horrible parents along with their messed up son!!!!! Lock them all up & throw away the key!!!!!
you want justice to be served on people who did not pull the trigger. People who did not realize the son stole their gun and put it in his book bag that morning.
I want justice to be served on two people who covered up for their son's crime of murdering his fiance & not being honest with her parents or cooperating with the police!!!!! That is what TRUE decent parents & human beings would have done!!!!
@@wraynephew6838 They knew he had the gun and he didn’t steal it. They gave it to him. You should try to be more informed. Your ignorance is destroying our nation.
@@randomdude5938 The gun was not were the father stored it. Which means the child stole it. Try to research this story first before you reveal your own ignorance!
@@wraynephew6838 He took the gun he was given. He did not steal it you ignoramus lol. That's besides the point that the parents didn't tell the school he had the gun you dumb fu#@
The father is going to regret this stupid decision.
They all need to use a microphone.
Making sure I got my red lipstick on for the news 😄😄😄
They still use black and white stripes for inmates, like in cartoons?
They utilize a myriad of colors in the prison system. It often denotes how serious their crime/offender level or to catch the eye if they happen to escape and will also carry a marker of their prison across the back.
@@Dobviews what's the level of seriousness? The husband is in orange.
@@joeybaseball7352 I am not familiar with their local jail system. It differs from county to county and state to state. I was a gopher for a local defense law firm in TN back in the 90's.
@@joeybaseball7352 Criminal Penalty for Involuntary Manslaughter in Michigan If you are found to have committed the crime of manslaughter, you are guilty of a felony punishable by up to 15 years in prison and a fine of as much as $7,500, according to the Michigan Penal Code ( 750.321 ).
It depends which prison gang they are in. Some gangs still wear stripes like in cartoons.
The judge is very quiet spoken she needs to turn her mic up so the hard of hearing 🧏♀️ can hear her too.
I'm not hard of hearing, yet I can't hear her, either. Mumble, mumble, mumble.🙄
What is with the headset & speaking device?
Hearing device
Cant hear the judge
Does an innocent person need evidence thrown out?
Yes
@@jlorde8838 why?
Put them in jail for life
Hopefully they Appeal her decision. Shes bias!
I would love to see the death penalty they kill them children
Such beauty words: Accountability, culpability, disproportionate..... controlling the mass and the individuals etc etc
I'm neither mad nor disappointed in these charges, however, are there any charges against the school and district?
You’re right charges should be charged to the school board, but they have sovereign immunity from prosecution because their government official
@@RW-to2fythe school should be considered caregivers because they are when children are in school all day
I believe Mrs crumbs is going to throw Mr. under the bus…🧐✌️❤️🌎
Exactly. She's more evil, she carries more responsibility and he's the pushover, trying and failing to make Jennifer happy. The world revolves around Jennifer. Even Evil Ethan who was probably still breast feeding until he was in prison.
Yep the door dash man
She certainly did. She took no responsibility at all.
Let's hope the whisperer gets a microphone before the actual trial gets underway.
Did the defense attorneys that were partners have a rift and split up their practice?
Ha ha! had to teach jen how to wear a mask! Ha Ha ha!
This is ridiculous, the judge doesn’t need to whisper! 🤬🤬
That judge is wacko if she doesn’t see a problem with now two separate firms representing two separate clients since they suddenly dissolved their partnership. I hope they remove this judge since she seems to be partial to the defense.
Exactly!!! This is nuts. They should be tried separately. This is a conflict big time.
She has repeatedly asked the Crumbles if they are ok with this pairing of attourneys and each time the Crumbles say it is ok. Clearly the judge does not think this is an good idea especially when the last time she reminded the Crumbles that they dissolved Thier partnership
@@jodievukmir3187 Exactly!! Jennifer wants them to have the same weird situation because there is far more incriminating evidence against her for a harsh sentence than the dad (forgot his name). He’s an idiot. When a judge is asking you questions like this, the judge is to giving very direct advice that this is a very detrimental situation to continue on with. It was a terrible decision from the start. Now it’s worse. Clearly the lawyers don’t agree enough with their own business decisions, hence why they separated their firms. The dad strikes me to be unintelligent and caters to Jennifer’s best interests, even after she was caught having an affair during this horrific murder. Seems someone in his life should give him the slap in the face of a reality check. Potentially being found guilty of murder and spending a life sentence in prison is not worth any loyalty to the narcissistic sociopath known as Jennifer Crumley. The judge might as well be saying “DUDE... you are facing a life sentence if found guilty!!! Now is the time to separate yourself to have a separate trial AND LEGAL COUNSEL!!! Ethan’s trial was purposely moved to January 2023 because the prosecutor wants to convict YOU FIRST!!!!”. Damn.
@@bonjovirocks24 well said
@@jodievukmir3187 Thank you! I’m curious what “advice” his lawyer has given him, without losing out to the money paid already for future hours yet not billed. Sadly, this guy is likely to fry. I’m not suggesting he’s a good man and did no wrong here, but it’s pretty clear Jennifer lassoed him into going along with her... and he’s too dumb to think for himself. Seems to me he has had a lot of time to think by himself. Fantasy living I suppose.
That bottle of water is a symbol. Pure white and blue eyes. She is saying to the judge "we are all white, right?"
Notice how she places it in front of the judge.
Hmmmmm Timothy George Simpkins.
Nathaniel Abraham
Are you serious?
You are reaching with this one. Come on....
What’s the point of the dads mask? it’s old and it’s stretched and it looks bloody filthy, so who’s it protecting, no one, so why’s he even got it on? I can’t stand the slipping of the mask under the nose, why wear it?
Exactly. The others aren't wearing a mask. Take it off. Take it all off.
The two defendants have been caught in the past speaking to each other on zoom and in court so the judge makes the both of the wear it so they won’t communicate back and forth
@@pinky12350 The stupid dad is going to regret this decision to keep the same weird dual law firm council as his evil wife Jennifer. When a judge stops to explain the situation and implications, it’s best to listen, instead of trying to get a glimpse of the chick who cheated on you, dude. Having to wear masks so they don’t communicate is a tad crazy. Nothing they code or mouth back & forth will help either of them. The fact he stays loyal to her shows he’s missing a backbone. It’s nuts.
I think the jury should be outside the community yes. OR ensure the jury won’t use emotion to defend their argument
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I agree but I guess you're a clown for believing in our justice system and saying that everyone is innocent until proven guilty. How awful of you! 🙄 I mean, why bother with a trial? Let's just put them on the wall!?
They’re now learning much more about parenting!
If they did this more often in school or gang related hun violence more parents would think twice about buying firearms for their children or having firearms not properly locked up safely this is a shame but these parents were lazy parents they paid no attention to their only son, at times this boy was left for days and nights alone where he claimed he was afraid and tried to contact both parents whom both ignored him on several occasions. Unfortunately he woke his parents up to realize they are parents by taken a gun and shooting innocent children and teachers. Give them life with parole at least they might learn something being in jail perhaps parenting classes are available their so they can teach other parents not to make the same mistake. DENIED 🙅♀️ ❤️
Wow, this is going to be a zoo. These two defense attorneys now work for their individual firms, so they can still represent these assholes. The parents, especially Dorky the husband is going to regret not taking the Judges warning. Jennifer was the ring leader in that home.
Did defense attorneys have a rift and split up?
Agree completely
Why are they still wearing masks.?
The two defendants have been caught speaking to each other on zoom and in the court room and the judge made them wear mask to stop the communication
Those stripes on Jennifer are obnoxious! Very effective, should she decide to hit the road again, but wow
Good
No way did the parents conspire with the son, they should be immediately freed and crazy son needs to be in jail for life
@Denise Pelton nope, just a parent , unlike yourself
@Denise Pelton yup
hahaha
Everybody here solo goood @ jurying judging
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Set Them Free
that’s what a trial is for “patriot”. im sorry, do you know how america actually works?
You are absolutely discusting to make such a comment like that, innocent people died that day from their son's outrageous behavior and the parents new about it all so they deserve to be locked up.
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@@amandaspellman9676 💯
The defence attorney for Jennifer crumbley is the same attourney who defended Jodi Arias.
no it isn't! Jodi Arias had Jennifer Willmott And Jennifer Crumbley's attorney is Shannon Smith