The east london line must have been a joy to ride on back then, with the rugged a stock trains and the stylish old stations. Shame I never got to experience it and now never will...
The A stock trains have gone but (at present) the stations are largely the same. However I recall reading somewhere that this station (Surrey Quays) is going to be rebuilt.
After Shoreditch closed (1 year later), All of the East London Line stations have been closed for the London Overground extension, Shoreditch closed and was replaced by Shoreditch-High Street.
If you know where to look you can still see the old Shoreditch station building, complete with LMS initials on the frontage, plus the year it was rebuilt. It is a shame that this station was not reopened.
@@CitytransportInfoplus Ikr, what if Shoreditch was part of the overground Network with Shoreditch-High Street it would be confusing for people because they almost have the same names Shoreditch and Shoreditch-High Street.
It all started in 1876, but now until 1913 it was part of the London which ran from Shoreditch and New Cross those two stations had the same names until London named one New Cross Gate, Surrey Quays used to be called, Surrey Docks and Deptford Road. Shoreditch was closed in 2006 and was cut back to Whitechapel. In 2007 the rest of the East London line was closed until 2010, it was part of the Overground Network, Shoreditch opens on Monday to Friday and Sundays, not Saturdays because it will be cut back to Whitechapel.
Another thing to, the East London line was used to be part of the Metropolitan Line it was including the St. Mary's Curve. The London has closed it up though
I was in Lisbon a few years ago, and I noticed that on a couple of the city’s tram lines, the antique cars have had their original running gear replaced with refurbished power bogies from the old A Stock LUL trains! Same motors though, one bogie per tram (the really old ones, which are all 4 wheelers). Then I noticed that the old 4 wheel cars on some other lines have had their running gear replaced with C Stock bogies. All the cars are suspended by a leaf spring at each corner of the bogie. So if anyone’s that attached to the old LUL sub-surface stock, you can go to Lisbon and see/hear bits of them still running.
Imagine if they'd kept it as underground when extending the line... we would have A-Stock rocking up at Croydon and Highbury and Islington at some point
5:42 I never rode A stock, but was it usual for the lights to blink on the power supply gaps? Just like old trains here in New York. I know it was common on 1959 and 1962 tube trains.
kinkisharyocoasters probably it happened to all four but since the power pick up shoes were only on the end two cars (first and last) so this was not seen in the others.
wow it really is strange to see how health and safety and all that changes the image and how the image of the trains look i am only 15 but i would love to got back to the 1990 to see how its changed great video
@JeffOrnstein01 Thanks, I'm pleased you found it to be of interest. re: the name 'Overground', it was chosen to complement the existing and well-known 'Underground'. re: the seating, its not liked by everyone. Even though most Underground trains (A Stock excepted) are like this many people would have been happier if the Overground 378's had some cross-seating - emulating the new Overground diesel trains on the Barking - Gospel Oak service.
Really bizarre seeing London Underground trains in corporate livery this early in the 90s. Now in retrospect, watching this footage and comparing all three trial mockup liveries, LU corporate went with the best and most iconic one.
Yes, the best design won. I took part in the public consultation and voted for this design. The design with the blue stripe around the windows would not have lasted very long as it later became the rule that to help people with reduced visibility the doors should be in a contrasting colour.
@nasansia Instead of just having paper timetables showing the times the trains are supposed to come, 'real-time' information tells waiting passengers when they will actually come. Often the information displays also advise of delays and other important travel information (such as planned closures). Inside the trains the information tells passengers the name of the next station and name of the destination for the train - helping the passengers ensure that they are on the correct train.
@spartan117ism in what context? Historically (ie: since 'steam train' days) this route has always been served by a mix of railway companies. Although only Overground trains now use it the entire East London Line service uses a unique mix of Network Rail and Transport For London (who 'own' London Underground) infrastructure. Elsewhere in London Overground & Underground trains provide joint (shared) services, albeit solely on Network Rail metals.
The ELL always a hybrid line, for most of its life carrying electric London Transport trains as well as steam (and later diesel) mainline railway passenger and goods trains. The East London Railway Company was jointly owned by six railway companies, two of which ended up in London Transport and the rest in British Railways. The line was rebuilt and extended for several reasons which included bringing back to life a section of closed railway (in north London), improving travel connections on a north - south basis within London and also to reduce the number of south London trains serving London Bridge station at a time when it was about to be rebuilt.
And 6 cars on the Hammersmith & City and Circle Lines, and the Wimbledon branch of the District Line. The platforms from Edgware Road to High Street Kensington are too short for 7/8 car trains.
The District line shares tracks with the Overground from Gunnersbury to Richmond and so does the Bakerloo line from Queens Park to Harrow & Wealdstone.
The Electrostar train family includes Classes 357, 375, 376, 377, 378, 379 and 387. So essentially they are all the same trains but with different train ends and internal seating layouts. This would also explain why they sound so similar to each other!
there is also some equipment difference between the older Electrostar classes and the new ones one example is that 387s are electrically incompatible 377 so coupling of the two classes can only be done in emergencies. The 332s were built by CAF and Siemens in Spain there not part of any named family for the information available the only similar train is the Class 333 which is built to a similar design and runs in west and north Yorkshire. The motor sound on all the classes can vary a bit but without going into detail the similar sound caused by the AC motors and traction equipment used on modern or retrofitted stock.
The A stock trains came in two different variants, these being A 60 and A62, which relates to the two production batches from when London Transport bought them, and I'm told that one of the few differences between them was that one had much noiser motors than the other.
I'm fascinated by the London Underground.
Hey so why did the train loose current at 5:41 and why does the motors sound really really loud?
I was hoping someone would tell me that! Alas, I have no idea.
@@CitytransportInfoplus I think its the current rail switching
Being the second shortest LU line, it probably didn't have as much delays, or I could just be being a bit biased as it was my local Tube line.
The east london line must have been a joy to ride on back then, with the rugged a stock trains and the stylish old stations. Shame I never got to experience it and now never will...
The A stock trains have gone but (at present) the stations are largely the same. However I recall reading somewhere that this station (Surrey Quays) is going to be rebuilt.
After Shoreditch closed (1 year later), All of the East London Line stations have been closed for the London Overground extension, Shoreditch closed and was replaced by Shoreditch-High Street.
If you know where to look you can still see the old Shoreditch station building, complete with LMS initials on the frontage, plus the year it was rebuilt. It is a shame that this station was not reopened.
(Boy) Shoreditch-High Street: LOL, SHOREDITCH, GET LOST
(Girl) Shoreditch: 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@CitytransportInfoplus Ikr, what if Shoreditch was part of the overground Network with Shoreditch-High Street it would be confusing for people because they almost have the same names Shoreditch and Shoreditch-High Street.
It all started in 1876, but now until 1913 it was part of the London which ran from Shoreditch and New Cross those two stations had the same names until London named one New Cross Gate, Surrey Quays used to be called, Surrey Docks and Deptford Road. Shoreditch was closed in 2006 and was cut back to Whitechapel. In 2007 the rest of the East London line was closed until 2010, it was part of the Overground Network, Shoreditch opens on Monday to Friday and Sundays, not Saturdays because it will be cut back to Whitechapel.
Another thing to, the East London line was used to be part of the Metropolitan Line it was including the St. Mary's Curve. The London has closed it up though
I was in Lisbon a few years ago, and I noticed that on a couple of the city’s tram lines, the antique cars have had their original running gear replaced with refurbished power bogies from the old A Stock LUL trains! Same motors though, one bogie per tram (the really old ones, which are all 4 wheelers). Then I noticed that the old 4 wheel cars on some other lines have had their running gear replaced with C Stock bogies. All the cars are suspended by a leaf spring at each corner of the bogie. So if anyone’s that attached to the old LUL sub-surface stock, you can go to Lisbon and see/hear bits of them still running.
Muy bonito video, qué contraste con la diferencia de años.
Enhorabuena y gracias por lo que haces.
Nice video, some random gave the camera a cheeky wave at 01:55, was the first clips before the A stock was refurbished?
Imagine if they'd kept it as underground when extending the line... we would have A-Stock rocking up at Croydon and Highbury and Islington at some point
Alas, the A stock were doomed, due to advancing age and needing new bogies. We would have had S Stock on these routes instead!
Farewell to Shoreditch and the Original East London Line (1876-2007)
Shoreditch (1876-2006)
5:42 I never rode A stock, but was it usual for the lights to blink on the power supply gaps? Just like old trains here in New York. I know it was common on 1959 and 1962 tube trains.
kinkisharyocoasters Hi there, yes it was.
citytransportinfo Then why did it only happen in the first car?
kinkisharyocoasters probably it happened to all four but since the power pick up shoes were only on the end two cars (first and last) so this was not seen in the others.
Probably explains it.A stock trains were built in the 60s.
kinkisharyocoasters d and c stocks do as well. It's natural. Because the circuits are luce while rattling.
wow it really is strange to see how health and safety and all that changes the image and how the image of the trains look i am only 15 but i would love to got back to the 1990 to see how its changed great video
Trains In The South West. It’s changed by they are gone
@JeffOrnstein01 Thanks, I'm pleased you found it to be of interest.
re: the name 'Overground', it was chosen to complement the existing and well-known 'Underground'.
re: the seating, its not liked by everyone. Even though most Underground trains (A Stock excepted) are like this many people would have been happier if the Overground 378's had some cross-seating - emulating the new Overground diesel trains on the Barking - Gospel Oak service.
Wow, great video. I pretty much use this station everyday! (: Did they replace the motors on the A stock? They sound different.
i've always wondered what those pillars in the middle were about
Why did they get rid of the crossover at the northern end of the platforms? It would've been useful in case of disruption etc.
Great film!
Farewell London Underground Surrey Quays (AKA Deptford Road)
1869-2010
I like the old trains. I'll give anything to be able to travel on them again
alas, they were all scrapped, because of asbestos and the lack of somewhere to store them it was too expensive and difficult to preserve any of them.
@@CitytransportInfoplus what is asbestos
Really bizarre seeing London Underground trains in corporate livery this early in the 90s. Now in retrospect, watching this footage and comparing all three trial mockup liveries, LU corporate went with the best and most iconic one.
Yes, the best design won. I took part in the public consultation and voted for this design.
The design with the blue stripe around the windows would not have lasted very long as it later became the rule that to help people with reduced visibility the doors should be in a contrasting colour.
@nasansia Instead of just having paper timetables showing the times the trains are supposed to come, 'real-time' information tells waiting passengers when they will actually come. Often the information displays also advise of delays and other important travel information (such as planned closures).
Inside the trains the information tells passengers the name of the next station and name of the destination for the train - helping the passengers ensure that they are on the correct train.
@spartan117ism in what context?
Historically (ie: since 'steam train' days) this route has always been served by a mix of railway companies. Although only Overground trains now use it the entire East London Line service uses a unique mix of Network Rail and Transport For London (who 'own' London Underground) infrastructure.
Elsewhere in London Overground & Underground trains provide joint (shared) services, albeit solely on Network Rail metals.
Just like the Hammersmith and City line, the East London line was also part of the Metropolitan line.
Why did they re brand and extend it?
The ELL always a hybrid line, for most of its life carrying electric London Transport trains as well as steam (and later diesel) mainline railway passenger and goods trains. The East London Railway Company was jointly owned by six railway companies, two of which ended up in London Transport and the rest in British Railways.
The line was rebuilt and extended for several reasons which included bringing back to life a section of closed railway (in north London), improving travel connections on a north - south basis within London and also to reduce the number of south London trains serving London Bridge station at a time when it was about to be rebuilt.
citytransportinfo thanks!
Woah! what livery is the second train painted in? Very good video by the way! :D
Thank you so much for these video's, very detailed and thorough.
what does real time passenger information mean? Are they just the announcements
is it me or Have the Underground trains got longer over the years
Trains In The South West. No
And 6 cars on the Hammersmith & City and Circle Lines, and the Wimbledon branch of the District Line. The platforms from Edgware Road to High Street Kensington are too short for 7/8 car trains.
@citytransportinfo (NRS)National Rail Service on some areas of the Bakerloo line
Aventanario or two stations with national rail
Do London Overground and London Underground work together?
Aventanario I feel like a no but the underground connects with the overground on some stations
The District line shares tracks with the Overground from Gunnersbury to Richmond and so does the Bakerloo line from Queens Park to Harrow & Wealdstone.
The A Stock didn't make any noise on the motors nowadays
Back then people appear to be dressed 10 times nicer than today. No hoodies, shorts, flip flops, etc...
Class 387, Heathrow express train class I can't remember, and class 357 have the same motor sound. Why is y hat?
The Electrostar train family includes Classes 357, 375, 376, 377, 378, 379 and 387. So essentially they are all the same trains but with different train ends and internal seating layouts. This would also explain why they sound so similar to each other!
citytransportinfo what about the Heathrow express train?
citytransportinfo what about class 322
citytransportinfo or 332?
there is also some equipment difference between the older Electrostar classes and the new ones one example is that 387s are electrically incompatible 377 so coupling of the two classes can only be done in emergencies. The 332s were built by CAF and Siemens in Spain there not part of any named family for the information available the only similar train is the Class 333 which is built to a similar design and runs in west and north Yorkshire.
The motor sound on all the classes can vary a bit but without going into detail the similar sound caused by the AC motors and traction equipment used on modern or retrofitted stock.
A stocks didn't even make motor noises a few years before their retire completely
The A stock trains came in two different variants, these being A 60 and A62, which relates to the two production batches from when London Transport bought them, and I'm told that one of the few differences between them was that one had much noiser motors than the other.
Aventanario yes they do . They have the C/D stock motors
5:36
I was born like 2 weeks after the closure of east London underground
I mean why is that?
In what context?
I spelt it wrong when I was asking the electrostar family
look at 1:54
man waving
YEAH I KNOW
Metropolitan Line Trains On The East London Line
Yes, and it was the Metropolitan Railway that electrified this route.
0:37 ergging
yes and He gets footage from other people
The new trains have fewer doors than the old ones 🙄 not a good idea
trains have less carriges