whenever discussing Cziffra one is always reminded, visually or just listening, of his unique physical ability to play chords few people could reach and at a frenetic speed that I am sure only Liszt could have emulated. Ergo whatever he plays sounds different in some way to the version that we are used to hearing. It is neither better nor worse, it is different. And so? Here for one of his first ever live radio broadcasts in the country that was to become his home he played as himself. But, there is a story that the great French pianist of the post war years, Robert Cassadesus was present at the rehearsals as he often listened to the French National Orchestra's piano rehearsals to pick up tips for himself. He also greatly admired the young Giulini. It is said that after hearing what Cziffra was physically capable of he took the two men aside and told them what the orchestra could do as well. Giulini listened to him and, after a lengthy chat with the leader and a not totally comprehending Cziffra, told them what he wanted. What he got was live, played straight through and this most famous piece played as nobody had ever heard it before. It truly is phenominal. But, and this is interesting, a good friend of Giulini was the Italian conductor, Ettore Gracis who heard the story from him much later that year. By chance a recording was being planned after a live concert in London at the end of 1957 in which Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli was to play Rachmaninov's fourth concerto with Gracis and the Philharmonia Orchestra. Gracis merely suggested to ABM that, like Cziffra, he do his own thing and he and the Orchestra would not let him down. That recording in December 1957 at the London Abbery Rd studios is STILL considered by many as the greatest recording of a piano concerto ever made. Even in a studio they played it straight through, no retakes, and ABM just walked out of the studio knowing what he had done. I wonder if this Cziffra/Guilini concerto really started that story. I have no reason to doubt it.My music teacher in Paris told me about it in 1960.
Cziffra is on fire in this thrilling performance of Tchaikovsky's wonderful first piano concerto. Certainly gives Horowitz and Toscanini a run for their money! Only Giulini applying the brakes a little in the Finale and 'correcting' the third melody note on the flute (beginning of the slow movement) spoils it a bit for me.
I think Cziffra made the choice to modify that note. - In 1961, Giulini conducted this piece with Arthur Rubinstein, adhering to the original score. Notably, Cziffra recorded this concerto with P. Dervaux for EMI in April 1957, around the same time as Giulini's performance, 'correcting' that note as in this performance. - Also, the 1961 Bordeaux performance with Maurice Le Roux has changed that note too. But it remains unclear who wanted that change due to the lack of available recordings other than the 1961 one. - In the 1964 Japan performance, Cziffra played with Hiroyuki Iwaki, he changed the note again. Interestingly, when Iwaki later played this piece with Gusztáv Fenyő, he used the original notation.
This interpretation left me speechless...Absolute perfectionism, dynamic momentum , enthusiasm , drama , freezing but magic russian winter , snowy neverending land ...
I've never listened to such a thrilling interpretation of this concert! 1957...soon after his arrival in France.He must have been a shocking new comer in Paris.
Giulini?? must be an error, Cziffra recorded this piece twice: one in Paris in 1957 with Pierre Dervaux conducting, and in 1958 in London with André Vandernoot, 0r I'm wrong?? Best wishes, excuse my english please! Oscar Olavarría from Chile, South America
Cziffra didn't always give such a fired up performance of the Tchaikovsky first concerto as here. Listen to my upload of his 'live' performance in Japan in 1964. Also (in separate movement uploads) his performance with Ancerl at the Montreux Festival in the 1960s.
Cziffra The Mad crazy Roar fashion bashing playing! And The Best Tchaikovsky piano concerto no 1 players Are really=1: Emil Gilels ( The King of The beautiful piano sound for Tchaikovsky piano concerto no 1) 2: Grigory Sokolov ( The most rhythmic vital beat! Unbeatable vitalness! Sokolov The most Titanic!) 3: Mikhail Pletnev ( The most Powerful Tchaikovsky piano concerto no 1 Ever!) 4: Andrei Gavrilov ( Gavrilov The only one who follows the correct tempo notes score! Gavrilov The Best creative smart ideas for Tchaikovsky piano concerto no 1) 5 Artur Rubinstein ( Rubinstein better than The crazy Mad Roar fashion Horowitz! Rubinstein better piano sound than Horowitz! Rubinstein better art than Horowitz! ) Cziffra his Mendelssohn piano concerto no 1 is The most awful trash empty low art Ever! Cziffra his Mendelssohn piano concerto no 1 the RAW rough bashing distroying Mendelssohn piano concerto no 1 with The ice cold piano sound Ever!.
the best one, estamos muy acostumbrados a la cultura americana y dejamos de ver la cultura francesa que tiene este tipo de joyas, la mejor versión que jamashaya escuchado de este concierto , me gusta mucho mas que las que Argerich y Horowitz, y GIulini lo dirige espectacular
You can tell Guilini was holding waaaay back and preventing Cziffra from going all out in the 3rd movement. Cziffra almost projected boredom until the octave cadenza then off to the races to the end. Nevertheless, it was a staggering performance for the ages.
lotsa missed/wrong notes but who the hell cares... what an epic performance. They don't make them like that anymore. Everything is sanitized, balanced, corrected and what ever else they do. thanks for the upload.
Thx for that video, really stunning performance. But in Finale... firstly, i was thinking that this isnt Cziffra, i expected way more powerful and faster movement.
32 minutes for the entire concerto??? Were they crazy? Did they forget to go to the loo before the concert, needed to catch a plane afterwards, or what? Richter and Karajan, 1962, 36 minutes.
Wer ist der Schnellste? Finde dieses Wettrennen im 1. Satz nicht angemessen. Hat Cziffra oder Giulini(?) das nötig? Gibt's verschiedene Ansichten. Die ganze Majestät des Satzes ist weg. Das ist Tastenakrobatik, nicht Tschaikowskys geniale Komposition mAn. ...... Die Synchronisation von Klavier und Orchester stimmt auch nicht immer usw..... ? "Eine grausame Kakophonie"! (PIT)
Cziffra is an incomparable Liszt player. When he plays at breakneck speed such works like La Campanella or the Grand Galop Chromatique this is amazing. But here with the B flat minor concerto this becomes a mere display of virtuosity. I prefer a more lyrical approach.
rigel48, you are entitled to your opinion and I respect that, however with the passing of years no one will care or remember your opinion and aesthetic taste, but Cziffra's performance of this concerto will certainly not be forgotten and will be well remembered by pianists and pinophiles.
op106 Thank you for your polite answer. It changes certain boor whom we find on UA-cam. Let me say that I have the greatest admiration for Cziffra, and not only for his Liszt performances. Chopin, Schumann, Couperin among others were wonderfully played by him Concerning Tchaikovsky's 1st PC, some years ago I would have been very enthusiastic about this performance. This is very exciting, full of bravura and impulse. But now I am a little tired by this kind of performance. Maybe I am wrong, but I do think that this concerto is more than a simple showpiece. How is it possible to be very majestic ("molto maestoso") in the introduction with such a fast tempo ? There are many pencil additions made by Tchaikovsky to the autograph which indicate to play slowly, especially in the Allegro con spirito ("plus lent" at bar 186, "Tempo I mais un peu plus lent" at bar 214, "ne pressez pas le mouvement" at bars 420 and 425,.....). Remember also that the first performance in Russia in St. Petersburg by pianist Gustav Kross was ruined by too fast tempi. Tchaikovsky who was here said it was "an atrocious cacophony".
rigel48 If you check the timings of Cziffra's performance you will see it's not faster than other pianists. Cziffra with his passion and unmatched pianistic equipment lunges make it seem faster and does not get lost on bemoaning the piece. If composers were always right on how to play their own music think of Ravel playing his own pieces, enough said. I have this channel to freely make available unknown , unusual and never heard performances of great pianists. My posts are not meant to to please everyone but hopefully will bring to life what is possible and happens in live performances being a more genuine artistic moment as opposed to their studio performances available on CD. I am glad you are a Cziffra fan, hopefully my future Cziffra posts will be to more to your liking.
This rendition does not give the right emotions. It should have been played at slower rate. There is shortage of lyrics in this interpretation. He plays it like a czardas.
whenever discussing Cziffra one is always reminded, visually or just listening, of his unique physical ability to play chords few people could reach and at a frenetic speed that I am sure only Liszt could have emulated. Ergo whatever he plays sounds different in some way to the version that we are used to hearing. It is neither better nor worse, it is different. And so? Here for one of his first ever live radio broadcasts in the country that was to become his home he played as himself. But, there is a story that the great French pianist of the post war years, Robert Cassadesus was present at the rehearsals as he often listened to the French National Orchestra's piano rehearsals to pick up tips for himself. He also greatly admired the young Giulini. It is said that after hearing what Cziffra was physically capable of he took the two men aside and told them what the orchestra could do as well. Giulini listened to him and, after a lengthy chat with the leader and a not totally comprehending Cziffra, told them what he wanted. What he got was live, played straight through and this most famous piece played as nobody had ever heard it before. It truly is phenominal. But, and this is interesting, a good friend of Giulini was the Italian conductor, Ettore Gracis who heard the story from him much later that year. By chance a recording was being planned after a live concert in London at the end of 1957 in which Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli was to play Rachmaninov's fourth concerto with Gracis and the Philharmonia Orchestra. Gracis merely suggested to ABM that, like Cziffra, he do his own thing and he and the Orchestra would not let him down. That recording in December 1957 at the London Abbery Rd studios is STILL considered by many as the greatest recording of a piano concerto ever made. Even in a studio they played it straight through, no retakes, and ABM just walked out of the studio knowing what he had done. I wonder if this Cziffra/Guilini concerto really started that story. I have no reason to doubt it.My music teacher in Paris told me about it in 1960.
Cziffra is on fire in this thrilling performance of Tchaikovsky's wonderful first piano concerto. Certainly gives Horowitz and Toscanini a run for their money! Only Giulini applying the brakes a little in the Finale and 'correcting' the third melody note on the flute (beginning of the slow movement) spoils it a bit for me.
I think Cziffra made the choice to modify that note.
- In 1961, Giulini conducted this piece with Arthur Rubinstein, adhering to the original score. Notably, Cziffra recorded this concerto with P. Dervaux for EMI in April 1957, around the same time as Giulini's performance, 'correcting' that note as in this performance.
- Also, the 1961 Bordeaux performance with Maurice Le Roux has changed that note too. But it remains unclear who wanted that change due to the lack of available recordings other than the 1961 one.
- In the 1964 Japan performance, Cziffra played with Hiroyuki Iwaki, he changed the note again. Interestingly, when Iwaki later played this piece with Gusztáv Fenyő, he used the original notation.
This interpretation left me speechless...Absolute perfectionism, dynamic momentum , enthusiasm , drama , freezing but magic russian winter , snowy neverending land ...
Wonderful trilling performance from Georges Cziffra piano virtuoso. So special performances it is a real treasure!!!! Thank you very much.
wonderful!
I've never listened to such a thrilling interpretation of this concert!
1957...soon after his arrival in France.He must have been a shocking new comer in Paris.
Entschuldigung, aber Geschwindigkeit ist nicht gleich Kunst!
One of the more impassioned and explosive Tchaikovsky #1 recordings I have heard - incredible performance!
The Most...indeed
No doubt, the best I have enjoyed the most so far; sheer delight.What a performance from such an accomplished pianist.So pleased I found him on Utube.
Giulini?? must be an error, Cziffra recorded this piece twice: one in Paris in 1957 with Pierre Dervaux conducting, and in 1958 in London with André Vandernoot, 0r I'm wrong?? Best wishes, excuse my english please! Oscar Olavarría from Chile, South America
Cziffra didn't always give such a fired up performance of the Tchaikovsky first concerto as here. Listen to my upload of his 'live' performance in Japan in 1964. Also (in separate movement uploads) his performance with Ancerl at the Montreux Festival in the 1960s.
Absolutely stunning! Cziffra isnt afraid to take risks, which is what everyone else, except Horowitz and Argerich, are lacking.
Cziffra The Mad crazy Roar fashion bashing playing! And The Best Tchaikovsky piano concerto no 1 players Are really=1: Emil Gilels ( The King of The beautiful piano sound for Tchaikovsky piano concerto no 1) 2: Grigory Sokolov ( The most rhythmic vital beat! Unbeatable vitalness! Sokolov The most Titanic!) 3: Mikhail Pletnev ( The most Powerful Tchaikovsky piano concerto no 1 Ever!) 4: Andrei Gavrilov ( Gavrilov The only one who follows the correct tempo notes score! Gavrilov The Best creative smart ideas for Tchaikovsky piano concerto no 1) 5 Artur Rubinstein ( Rubinstein better than The crazy Mad Roar fashion Horowitz! Rubinstein better piano sound than Horowitz! Rubinstein better art than Horowitz! ) Cziffra his
Mendelssohn piano concerto no 1 is The most awful trash empty low art Ever! Cziffra his Mendelssohn piano concerto no 1 the RAW rough bashing distroying Mendelssohn piano concerto no 1 with The ice cold piano sound Ever!.
This is worth listening to just for the first movement cadenza -- incomparable!
the best one, estamos muy acostumbrados a la cultura americana y dejamos de ver la cultura francesa que tiene este tipo de joyas, la mejor versión que jamashaya escuchado de este concierto , me gusta mucho mas que las que Argerich y Horowitz, y GIulini lo dirige espectacular
grande Cziffra!! ...Giulini ?No,no non è ,questo sa dirigere..
You can tell Guilini was holding waaaay back and preventing Cziffra from going all out in the 3rd movement. Cziffra almost projected boredom until the octave cadenza then off to the races to the end. Nevertheless, it was a staggering performance for the ages.
Atemberaubend, aber nicht künstlerisch.
lotsa missed/wrong notes but who the hell cares... what an epic performance. They don't make them like that anymore. Everything is sanitized, balanced, corrected and what ever else they do. thanks for the upload.
A fantastic performance. Who were the
orchestra and conductor?
braaaaaavooooooooooo!!!!!!!!
Занесло в финале, жаль, тема хороша- легко, изящно.
WONDERFULL ❤❤❤❤
Bonjour, comment avez-vous eu cette photo des mains de Cziffra... ?
Oui.
@@davidbutterworth5258 Je vous demandais comment vous avez eu cette photo ??? 😃😃
シフラも技巧家としてはどうしてもホロヴィッツの録音を意識せざるを得ないと思うが、ものすごい追い上げでホロヴィッツの29分に迫っている。シフラの場合は演奏後にピアノが原型をとどめているとおもわれるのがまだ救いである。
Dopo di che non ascolti piu' nessuno.
Thx for that video, really stunning performance. But in Finale... firstly, i was thinking that this isnt Cziffra, i expected way more powerful and faster movement.
Beyond an incredible performance. Nicoerr maybe your ears are too slow.
Just saw this after 6 years
Man, people in the Internet is simple unable to read an opinión without subtly insulting in return 😂😂😂
Tempo really
30:39
👻
Hungerian new Liszt
32 minutes for the entire concerto??? Were they crazy? Did they forget to go to the loo before the concert, needed to catch a plane afterwards, or what? Richter and Karajan, 1962, 36 minutes.
Wer ist der Schnellste? Finde
dieses Wettrennen im 1. Satz
nicht angemessen. Hat Cziffra
oder Giulini(?) das nötig? Gibt's
verschiedene Ansichten. Die
ganze Majestät des Satzes ist
weg. Das ist Tastenakrobatik,
nicht Tschaikowskys geniale
Komposition mAn. ...... Die Synchronisation von Klavier und Orchester stimmt auch nicht immer usw..... ?
"Eine grausame Kakophonie"! (PIT)
Cziffra is an incomparable Liszt player. When he plays at breakneck speed such works like La Campanella or the Grand Galop Chromatique this is amazing. But here with the B flat minor concerto this becomes a mere display of virtuosity. I prefer a more lyrical approach.
rigel48, you are entitled to your opinion and I respect that, however with the passing of years no one will care or remember your opinion and aesthetic taste, but Cziffra's performance of this concerto will certainly not be forgotten and will be well remembered by pianists and pinophiles.
op106 Thank you for your polite answer. It changes certain boor whom we find on UA-cam.
Let me say that I have the greatest admiration for Cziffra, and not only for his Liszt performances. Chopin, Schumann, Couperin among others were wonderfully played by him
Concerning Tchaikovsky's 1st PC, some years ago I would have been very enthusiastic about this performance. This is very exciting, full of bravura and impulse. But now I am a little tired by this kind of performance. Maybe I am wrong, but I do think that this concerto is more than a simple showpiece. How is it possible to be very majestic ("molto maestoso") in the introduction with such a fast tempo ?
There are many pencil additions made by Tchaikovsky to the autograph which indicate to play slowly, especially in the Allegro con spirito ("plus lent" at bar 186, "Tempo I mais un peu plus lent" at bar 214, "ne pressez pas le mouvement" at bars 420 and 425,.....).
Remember also that the first performance in Russia in St. Petersburg by pianist Gustav Kross was ruined by too fast tempi. Tchaikovsky who was here said it was "an atrocious cacophony".
rigel48 If you check the timings of Cziffra's performance you will see it's not faster than other pianists. Cziffra with his passion and unmatched pianistic equipment lunges make it seem faster and does not get lost on bemoaning the piece. If composers were always right on how to play their own music think of Ravel playing his own pieces, enough said. I have this channel to freely make available unknown , unusual and never heard performances of great pianists. My posts are not meant to to please everyone but hopefully will bring to life what is possible and happens in live performances being a more genuine artistic moment as opposed to their studio performances available on CD. I am glad you are a Cziffra fan, hopefully my future Cziffra posts will be to more to your liking.
The spirit is here, & that's what matters
This rendition does not give the right emotions. It should have been played at slower rate. There is shortage of lyrics in this interpretation. He plays it like a czardas.
А в России до сих пор бьются копья,кто лучшеГилельс или Рихтер!,,Боже,как скучна нашаРусь!"
..... "langweilig"?
So fast!!!