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Finally something that I own. 1 small correction: voice reserve doesn’t limit the polyphony to 80. it is used when the MC-707 is running out of polyphony and then it will cut out only notes that are NOT reserved. But you still can have 128.
I'm still hitting some odd voice stealing behaviour in certain cases even when setting voice reserve. It's really annoying - most of the time I can fix it by getting rid of partials that don't matter but other times I've had to give up on using certain patches (or had to sample them). Otherwise it's a great box.
I've been making albums with the 707 since I got it. It's the brain of my operation. It receives and sends all sorts of midi signal, and all my instruments get fed into a line mixer. Love this device.
In my humble opinion, MC707 excels at though is making techno. You can crank real, inhumane techno sounds in mere minutes and you can just jam along for hours. And it pairs well with TR8S and MX-1. It's also a good sound module for way better sequencers. What this thing needs is an editor program, similar to what TR8S has. Composing or setting up anything musical with that tiny screen is absolute misery, and being able to prep the unit for live performance on a computer would be a godsend. But alas, I'm not holding my breath.
I dunno….using the scene mode 2 chaining together clips and adding motion for builds and variation then adding scatter on the fly allows for some pretty fun live performance…maybe!? I like it anyway😅
The different pad modes easily make up for it. set up your chords, set up a scale and just record it live. no editing needed. even if you need a few takes to get it right it's still faster than sitting there and editing the notes on a screen.
I just bought a MC707 some weeks ago and I am really happy. I don't feel that there is too much of menu diving. But I have been a Reason user for many years, creeping at the backside of the rack, pulling countless amounts of cables and creating mind twisting combinator patches. Than I lost my inspiration and had an musical lockdown for nearly 10 years. Now the MC707 brings me some joy and I do not feel like its limits are frustrating to me. They are much more inspiring.🤟😄
I’ve been seriously considering the 707 now that I see it isn’t just a step based forced pocket machine I might try it out. Especially since the ones I’ve seen actually sound better than the new fantoms like the Juno ds
@@lionelluney3063 Go for it! 😁 The MC 707 can be step based if you want it to be. But also it is so easy to open it up. When recording the output of my midi keyboard the sequencer feels very "seamless". At first I feared that there aren't enough ticks between the notes, but as I said you can play quite good between the beats. Considering sound I can't talk about the presets because I was never a preset user. But there are some surprisingly good patches of Rhodes, Wurlitzer or grand pianos (at least in my ears). Designing synth sounds feels very easy flowing for me and I don't miss the flexibility of the Reason rack, even if the MC707 only has some lower flexibility. I really like the sound of the oscillators and there are some great litle tools to give them an analog feel without any effort.
I bought one a couple of weeks ago also. I can't decide if I'll learn to love it like the TR8s, or actually hate it. On the face of it, it's exactly what I want performance/jam wise, but the reality is I don't love the sounds, I hate the convoluted sound design, the C encoders are flimsy, the display is awful, and the pads are pretty bad even at the highest sensitivity. But I did't click with the TR for a year or so, and then suddenly I got it and will never sell it. I bought it used though, and I guess for what I paid it's worth giving it more of a chance.
@@FiveFeetDeep I have owned a 707 for a long time. I turned off the pad sensitivity… could never get the dynamics I wanted… but also don’t have the problem when I attach a keyboard. Honestly I still use it all the time. Works great with other gear as a sampling source or to do dawless stuff or as a sound module w/ daw.
I had a JD-800 for 15 years. It was one of my favourite synths ever. Because of the pandemic, i was a bit out of money, so i sadly sold it. I loved the sound of the Jd so much, that i was trying to buy another one. But the prices for a jd went thru the roof. One day a friend of mine recommended the MC-707/101 as a substitution. So i bought one. I am so happy i did. Yeah the programming is not the same, but if you know how to program a rolando it is not a problem at all. the sound i was missing was suddenly back. All the extra features from the 707 was a bonus for me. I developed a technique, where i create a sequence on one track and copy it over to another 2-3 tracks. I use different sounds on the different tracks. Then i route the most interesting parameters to modulate to the knobs. I play with the volume faders and the knobs to create interesting layers and textures. All is recorded to the daw to process it further. The possibilities are endless. You can even load your own samples to the tone engines. Sometimes it feels like 8x JD-800 in one Box. I totally can recommend the mc-707. You just have to be willing to dig deep into the box. You will find treasures.
Hey it's my main workhorse finally :D Now nearly my entire hardware rig has had Bad Gear episodes made about it. Thank god I recently finished building a DIY Norns build otherwise I'd be worried. After a little over a year with the MC-707 I still think it has the best synth engine going in the groovebox world. There's something very nice about having a flagship synth engine in a groovebox form factor. Now if only Roland would stop being afraid of any post 90's display tech. Okay now for some actual tips, setting voice reserve to zero for all tracks disables the voice reserve feature entirely and for me has personally almost always fixed voice stealing issues. I've also noticed the timing issue is hit and miss between units oddly enough but I usually use the more stable master clock on my TR8S as clock and tempo lead/set. And yeah that UI can be clunky as fuck but eh something had to give putting an engine like Zen Core in a form factor like that and still glad I went with the MC-707 over the MC-101.
Love the video, and humorous critique. Initially I had a love and hate relationship with the MC-707. When I first bought it, I was constantly comparing it to my MC-909. I was starting to feel like I should have just repaired my MC-909, instead of buying the MC-707. Then I started to see the MC-707 as it's own thing, and decided to stop comparing the two machines, and stop thinking about what was missing from the MC-707. Now I love it pieces. I still hate the how the LFO's are limited to 4bars max in the patches, and 2bars max in the FX... but I'd rather be on the MC-707 making music instead of using a DAW.
@@ET2carbon agreed! And it’s smaller too! I do want the thr tr8s just for the drums but I have come across a second hand mc707 for half price. But I should wait for a used tr8s to come up. Otherwise it’s overkill. The only thing I like about the mc707’, mv1 and tr8s is the amount of tracks you have running through a mixer. Big fan of the zen core. Some of the samples are just wonderful.
I love the MC-707. I own several grooveboxes, with the MC-707 and the Syntakt being my two favourites. It might be blasphemy to diehard Elektron fans, but I really prefer the MC-707. It has polyphony, it can sample and loop, it has 8 line faders, it has tons of effects and compressors. I wish Elektron came out with something like this, but they always seem to limit their gear on purpose to make you buy more machines - and as long as Elektron does that, the Roland MC-707 will be my favourite standalone instrument. 🤍
First they came for the Timbre Wolfs and I did not speak up for I had no Timbre Wolf. Then they came for the Digitakts and I did not speak up for I had no Digitakt. Then they came for the MC 707...and the rest is history. Waaaah! 😭 😂😂😂
I'm awaiting delivery of a rhythm wolf since watching Florian's video. It'll be my first from machine outside of a pocket operator rhythm or office. Thanks to the bad gear episode, I thought I'd try out some janky stuff first before I play with better equipment to see how I get on with them all and how they compare. I have low expectations after watching the video, but managed to find one at a very reasonable price online... ...I'd not be sad to see your unit on here, since Florian had covered some good bits of kit now too!
MC-707 is my favorite all in 1 box! FIRSTI NEED TO CORRECT SOMETHING YOU STATED …. The knob’s are great! The ones you showed with a tiny wiggle are the 4 knob’s that also have a push function.. pushing them selects things. The rest of the knob’s have no wiggle….OK, If Roland added sample stream…more looper memory, an old school sample synth engine that let you automate start/stop/loop start/loop stop positions (snap to zero with adjustable Env) and a granular/wavetable synth engine, and 8 external MIDI tracks? They could own the market… groove box’s are back in…
No, no, no, no, NO!!! I knew this was coming after the 101 and TR-8S videos. This is my centrepiece!! ...and I still can't do anything more than about 8 bars with it. 😭😆
This synth engine gave me many satisfactions while learning to use, it is very pleasent to use the nobs and the sequencer to program tracks, discover sounds and playing with them. This synth with a good midi keyboard it is a good match. Cheers
MY BABY!! It's pretty damn perfect in many ways. You can do so much with it. I've had it for years and I don't pretend to understand all the features. The scatter is great, the sound shaping is deep and the step sequencer can do some fun things. Chord mode is great, really flexible. It's a damn workstation in a box. You'll need to beef up the sounds with a bit of tweak and I never once found a BASS on this sucker that I like after all these years. The random patch feature is fun but useless in the end. I'll absolutely buy the next gen if they make some improvements. I want kits and I'd like the sampler to be a bit less annoying to use. Overall, a budget masterpiece if you consider the current used prices.
@@AudioPilz I have one, I love it and use it a lot, still I totally agree with your comments about it! especially the voice stealing and extremely vanilla boring preset sounds (drums above all)
Because it actually has everything in one box and I'm high fidelity. Crazy thing is, all of this can be done using Roland Cloud zen beats, no need to spend $700. It's zen-core engine it's also in the verselab mv1 if you want all the sounds for over half the cost in hardware
Hey finally a piece of gear I had and didn't like! My main problem was the combo of menu diving plus the tiny screen plus the odd viewing angle of said tiny screen. For hobbyists like me the whole point of hardware is to be hands on. If I'm going to have to meticulously assign knob functions and build my tracks out on a screen... why wouldn't I just use a DAW with a better screen and have more tracks, more effects, more... everything and then just spend the time to assign the knobs on my controller? This product just felt so confused. Great video as always though!
Dang now I’m missing my 101. The woovebox is gone too, a great little machine but put off by the steep learning curve. Well it was going to be a 707 or an MPC one and I went AKAI ward, ho hum. Now that you mention it the 707 (and the 101) are well overdue a refresh.
As a multi-timbral synth for external sequencing, there's very little that can touch it. Combatting polyphony issues is time consuming, but dumping channels out to a sample and then loading a load of them into a drumkit allows you to have several songs in the bank at once.
Roland VERSELAB MV-1 must be on the hit list. I watched the live release in horror as some hip-hop producer who had clearly not done his homework dissed his way through the functions and more or less said his old MPC was so much better. 😂
Amazing episode for me. This is the most attractive gear to me since its launch. Sort of a Classic, but I think I could do good and genuine performance with. Also the sampler aspect i'd like to learn about (not in my normal way). Your third demo is so nice, and convincing. Thank you for your communicative smile Florian ! Oops, just : Zen core is fabulous for me, quality, pleasure. Love Roland !
MC 707 Its by far the most powerful "groovebox" and affordable tool from any other ones available plus, it comes with the Zencore library. Maybe MPC force is also one of them
I have my Roland fanboy membership card as well lol 🤣 Yet it was not until I acquired a Fantom 07 late 2023 did I finally begin to appreciate how Roland allows users to construct scenes etc. Until then, I was completely lost on every device that had scenes except the MC-707! Thanks for bringing us home with this video and exposing the redundacy no matter how much Roland Kool-Aid we have consumed lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Same here! Had the 707 and now i am on the force and mpc … my main complain was playing a controller keyboard and adjusting wrong notes or pedals that the mc707 dis not get. On the force or mpc is much easier with the multitouch screen and bars. Miss the roland sounds so i bought a mc101 only to get the 3000 available sounds.
@@AudioPilz oh we definitely need a bad gear force episode, its like the forgotten redheaded step child of akai that is simultaneously infuriating to work with but amazing for its capabilities when you do get it to work right.....until you run out of ram
My favourite bit of music tech is the MC707. Once you learn the shortcuts and all the tricks it’s the fastest way to put tracks together without being stuck in front of a computer. Give it a few weeks of daily use and all becomes clear.
I just bought my 2nd MC 707 last week after 3 years of 8 hour a day punishment on m O.G. had worn it down 👇 quite a bit but nothing a servicing would've fix i just couldn't resist the 72 Zen Core Soundpacks and v.1.8 the one on Ebay was offering 😮i can Honestly say i couldn't function without my 707 as it controls all my 17 other bit of Hardware and is an Amazing sequencer and FX unit for my other synths, i could go on endefinitly about it's good points and really struggle to think of anything Negative about it. It Truly is a Wonderful piece of Kit ❤❤❤❤😊Jaffa Jenkins Dawless jams 😊
@@milk_bath I have the 101 also and it is great. The sounds are amazing and it does what I need for my genre. I combine it with tb-3 and jdxi mixed with mx-1. What more could a rave head like me need.
I have the MC 101 but still want the 707.. I tried it out in a music shop once and got lost in a world of my own! having all those tracks and those tracks having faders is perfect for groove box... sure you can make whole songs if you can be arsed with that matrix but grooveboxes are best when you just jam out.
…. So now after much EBay lurkage I have “won”/bought a newish 707 for 400 sheets!.. given the 101 is around 300-350 on the bay I think I got a good deal… even if don’t really need it 🤣 GAS is a real bummer!
Hey Florian meme meister, I own both of those ancient rack unit's 9:30 thank you 😂 The middle one Yamaha TG500 has lived in my garden shed for the last ten years and the bottom one, the Triton rack is a monster, that I still can't figure out, how to turn it into a desktop unit. Thanks for another great video.
The 707 is an awesome piece of kit. I use 2 of them for my Techno Live Set and this allows me to carry heaps less gear and have heaps of options available. The voice management is not as bad as you have said. I have had my units since they were released and only had to replace 1 channel fader so far.
Great review! I have one - used to once in 3 years lol - I totally agree with your main points: 1) xen core = lacklustre 2) workflow is ok until u have to menu dive. It looks great tho, plenty of controls and colours, display sucks. I'll probably remember I have one in 10yrs time and fire it up again :)
I am unlikely to evrer use an MC 707 but the memes on this were especially strong. Nick with "It has PWM, right?" and then the "Famous compser, Jean Michel Jarre..." Oh my god! Hilarious. You got some very good sounds out of this machine, particularly with the downtempo dub techno .
Last time when I was watching your Roland TR8S episode after that I just bought it, this time money ran out 😅 but I will buy it any way like any other gear that you review it here from Roland Aira, again grate episode men, High 5 from Poland 🎉
Oh man!!! I’ve been waiting on this one! I think I requested it more than once. Please make the price go up so I can sell mine 🤣. I do love it tho. Except for the UI and workflow and all 🤣🤣🤣
Have you looked into the M8 tracker? I think it's in a really good state right now and would be a fun episode to do. I'd also suggest looking into LSDJ, the tracker application for the Gameboy that the M8's interface is primarily based on. It feels like the M8 was specifically designed for chiptune producers that wanted to get into more contemporary electronic music production.
Invaluable content as always! @7:28 Somehow I'd never tried that! Paused video, grabbed SK-1 (always within reach) and hilarity ensued. A fake vomit sound works well too. :)
First thing I ever bought was an MC707. Sold and bought too much gear since then, and I’m currently looking for another one. It was the best hardware device I’ve ever owned but was too much of a novice to realise it at the time. Nothing can do as much as this except the MPC One. I make pop and synthpop too, so it’s not limited genre-wise.
Spending the time to eq all the tracks a little and dial in the master compressor make a huge difference using this thing live! I love what it offers as a production tool i just hate the process of editing things. Plus for something that retails new for $999 it's pretty flimsy feeling. First thing i did was get a deck saver for it before bringing it anywhere because i do not trust that the knobs or faders will hold up to any kind of impact.
Excellent as always! This time's suggestion is something that probably won't make it to the show. Presently YAMAHA GS1 exists in two software forms: as Xils Lab Kaox plugin, what has absolutely nothing to do with the original, and even does without the world famous ENS effect! The more authentic one is the sample-based/modelled version GS-V by ikmultimedia. It were extemely interesting to hear/see how you integrate the latter in your musical workflow & most of all how that would sound.
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Finally something that I own. 1 small correction: voice reserve doesn’t limit the polyphony to 80. it is used when the MC-707 is running out of polyphony and then it will cut out only notes that are NOT reserved. But you still can have 128.
Thanks for the heads up!!!
I'm still hitting some odd voice stealing behaviour in certain cases even when setting voice reserve. It's really annoying - most of the time I can fix it by getting rid of partials that don't matter but other times I've had to give up on using certain patches (or had to sample them). Otherwise it's a great box.
I've been making albums with the 707 since I got it. It's the brain of my operation. It receives and sends all sorts of midi signal, and all my instruments get fed into a line mixer. Love this device.
Nice!!!
What mixer do you use btw?
@@markuskoivisto Samson SM10!
@@MiskoSchaumovthanks! Got myself one too to pair up with my Mc-707 and synths. Works a charm!
My ReBirth meme was featured in this episode! My life is now complete! I can die a happy man! There is no higher pinnacle for me to reach!
The "3000 years ago" one?
Thank you so much!!! Nice one!!!
where what community, I would like to be a part of it
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I always love his little Kermit wave at the start
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Holy crap, I will never not see that now.
Audiofrog! 🐸
damn now someone has to make a looping gif of the kermit wave.
Kermit wave? I thought he was formerly an aircraft carrier catapult crewman.
In my humble opinion, MC707 excels at though is making techno. You can crank real, inhumane techno sounds in mere minutes and you can just jam along for hours. And it pairs well with TR8S and MX-1. It's also a good sound module for way better sequencers.
What this thing needs is an editor program, similar to what TR8S has. Composing or setting up anything musical with that tiny screen is absolute misery, and being able to prep the unit for live performance on a computer would be a godsend. But alas, I'm not holding my breath.
Agreed!!!
You are suppose to use Zenology Pro, the MC-707 use the zencore engine, but you have to transfer your sounds using the SD card. yeah, janky.
I dunno….using the scene mode 2 chaining together clips and adding motion for builds and variation then adding scatter on the fly allows for some pretty fun live performance…maybe!? I like it anyway😅
The different pad modes easily make up for it. set up your chords, set up a scale and just record it live. no editing needed. even if you need a few takes to get it right it's still faster than sitting there and editing the notes on a screen.
Pair it up with a launchpad pro and set it up in custom to manage all the scenes so it is an ableton clip launcher
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Yes Lord!!!
I just bought a MC707 some weeks ago and I am really happy. I don't feel that there is too much of menu diving. But I have been a Reason user for many years, creeping at the backside of the rack, pulling countless amounts of cables and creating mind twisting combinator patches. Than I lost my inspiration and had an musical lockdown for nearly 10 years. Now the MC707 brings me some joy and I do not feel like its limits are frustrating to me. They are much more inspiring.🤟😄
Nice!!!
I’ve been seriously considering the 707 now that I see it isn’t just a step based forced pocket machine I might try it out. Especially since the ones I’ve seen actually sound better than the new fantoms like the Juno ds
@@lionelluney3063 Go for it! 😁 The MC 707 can be step based if you want it to be. But also it is so easy to open it up. When recording the output of my midi keyboard the sequencer feels very "seamless". At first I feared that there aren't enough ticks between the notes, but as I said you can play quite good between the beats. Considering sound I can't talk about the presets because I was never a preset user. But there are some surprisingly good patches of Rhodes, Wurlitzer or grand pianos (at least in my ears). Designing synth sounds feels very easy flowing for me and I don't miss the flexibility of the Reason rack, even if the MC707 only has some lower flexibility. I really like the sound of the oscillators and there are some great litle tools to give them an analog feel without any effort.
I bought one a couple of weeks ago also. I can't decide if I'll learn to love it like the TR8s, or actually hate it. On the face of it, it's exactly what I want performance/jam wise, but the reality is I don't love the sounds, I hate the convoluted sound design, the C encoders are flimsy, the display is awful, and the pads are pretty bad even at the highest sensitivity. But I did't click with the TR for a year or so, and then suddenly I got it and will never sell it. I bought it used though, and I guess for what I paid it's worth giving it more of a chance.
@@FiveFeetDeep I have owned a 707 for a long time. I turned off the pad sensitivity… could never get the dynamics I wanted… but also don’t have the problem when I attach a keyboard. Honestly I still use it all the time. Works great with other gear as a sampling source or to do dawless stuff or as a sound module w/ daw.
I had a JD-800 for 15 years. It was one of my favourite synths ever. Because of the pandemic, i was a bit out of money, so i sadly sold it. I loved the sound of the Jd so much, that i was trying to buy another one. But the prices for a jd went thru the roof. One day a friend of mine recommended the MC-707/101 as a substitution. So i bought one. I am so happy i did. Yeah the programming is not the same, but if you know how to program a rolando it is not a problem at all. the sound i was missing was suddenly back. All the extra features from the 707 was a bonus for me. I developed a technique, where i create a sequence on one track and copy it over to another 2-3 tracks. I use different sounds on the different tracks. Then i route the most interesting parameters to modulate to the knobs. I play with the volume faders and the knobs to create interesting layers and textures. All is recorded to the daw to process it further. The possibilities are endless. You can even load your own samples to the tone engines. Sometimes it feels like 8x JD-800 in one Box. I totally can recommend the mc-707. You just have to be willing to dig deep into the box. You will find treasures.
Hey it's my main workhorse finally :D Now nearly my entire hardware rig has had Bad Gear episodes made about it. Thank god I recently finished building a DIY Norns build otherwise I'd be worried. After a little over a year with the MC-707 I still think it has the best synth engine going in the groovebox world. There's something very nice about having a flagship synth engine in a groovebox form factor. Now if only Roland would stop being afraid of any post 90's display tech.
Okay now for some actual tips, setting voice reserve to zero for all tracks disables the voice reserve feature entirely and for me has personally almost always fixed voice stealing issues. I've also noticed the timing issue is hit and miss between units oddly enough but I usually use the more stable master clock on my TR8S as clock and tempo lead/set. And yeah that UI can be clunky as fuck but eh something had to give putting an engine like Zen Core in a form factor like that and still glad I went with the MC-707 over the MC-101.
Thanks for the heads up!!! Nice technique!!!
I wouldn't call recycled JV sounds a "flagship synth engine" in 2024.
@@albee8642 Preset is not synth engine. You can make custom sound on this synth.
I'm here early enough to pause and replay all the memes before nightfall EST! 🙌
Nice!!!
Knobs, button, faders.
Thanks for attending my Ted talk.
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Love the video, and humorous critique. Initially I had a love and hate relationship with the MC-707. When I first bought it, I was constantly comparing it to my MC-909. I was starting to feel like I should have just repaired my MC-909, instead of buying the MC-707. Then I started to see the MC-707 as it's own thing, and decided to stop comparing the two machines, and stop thinking about what was missing from the MC-707. Now I love it pieces. I still hate the how the LFO's are limited to 4bars max in the patches, and 2bars max in the FX... but I'd rather be on the MC-707 making music instead of using a DAW.
Thank you!!!
Have been waiting a long while for this episode. My awesome MC707.
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This is a great machine. It has a sampler & classic roland drum kits & synths. Underrated !!
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@@AudioPilz Thanks 🙂
not for long。。。
Everything Roland releases has all the classics. JDXI for example
This is my favorite piece of gear!! I love it, glad you gave it the Bad Gear treatment!!
Thank you so much!!!
Well, now it’s official, EVERY piece of gear I have and have had has been featured on this show.
Bad Gear Bingo FTW!!!
Every time I think this, he features another piece of gear I forgot I had sitting around.
I’m hanging on to the hope that he can’t possibly include the original Wavestation and Yamaha AN1X. 😂
Moog Rogue still not here! CZ101? Haha!
@@mog068 I have a CZ101 too! 😂
Great show as usual! You have done the 101 and 707 next you should do their troubled middle sibling the MV-1 Verselab.
Thank you!!! Great suggestion!!!
The MV-1 yes! Do it Florian! You’ll hate the workflow but i have it and love it especially once you get a handle on song mode.
@@wakinglife7065it's crazy it has all these sounds for half the price.
@@ET2carbon agreed! And it’s smaller too! I do want the thr tr8s just for the drums but I have come across a second hand mc707 for half price. But I should wait for a used tr8s to come up. Otherwise it’s overkill. The only thing I like about the mc707’, mv1 and tr8s is the amount of tracks you have running through a mixer. Big fan of the zen core. Some of the samples are just wonderful.
Loading/saving time of 707 was killing me. Even deleting sample from project was crazy, like unbelievable! :D
The horror
I love the MC-707. I own several grooveboxes, with the MC-707 and the Syntakt being my two favourites. It might be blasphemy to diehard Elektron fans, but I really prefer the MC-707. It has polyphony, it can sample and loop, it has 8 line faders, it has tons of effects and compressors. I wish Elektron came out with something like this, but they always seem to limit their gear on purpose to make you buy more machines - and as long as Elektron does that, the Roland MC-707 will be my favourite standalone instrument. 🤍
Roland severely limited the drums on this to make people buy the TR-8S. It would of been a complete groovebox without that limitation.
MC-707 is my favorite piece of gear of all time. It does need sidechain compression though.
Another piece of "Bad Gear" I own! Awesomeness! Have a great week Florian!
Nice!!! Thanks!!!
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Have a nice weekend!!!
First they came for the Timbre Wolfs and I did not speak up for I had no Timbre Wolf.
Then they came for the Digitakts and I did not speak up for I had no Digitakt.
Then they came for the MC 707...and the rest is history. Waaaah! 😭
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I'm awaiting delivery of a rhythm wolf since watching Florian's video. It'll be my first from machine outside of a pocket operator rhythm or office.
Thanks to the bad gear episode, I thought I'd try out some janky stuff first before I play with better equipment to see how I get on with them all and how they compare. I have low expectations after watching the video, but managed to find one at a very reasonable price online...
...I'd not be sad to see your unit on here, since Florian had covered some good bits of kit now too!
MC-707 is my favorite all in 1 box! FIRSTI NEED TO CORRECT SOMETHING YOU STATED …. The knob’s are great! The ones you showed with a tiny wiggle are the 4 knob’s that also have a push function.. pushing them selects things. The rest of the knob’s have no wiggle….OK,
If Roland added sample stream…more looper memory, an old school sample synth engine that let you automate start/stop/loop start/loop stop positions (snap to zero with adjustable Env) and a granular/wavetable synth engine, and 8 external MIDI tracks? They could own the market… groove box’s are back in…
No, no, no, no, NO!!! I knew this was coming after the 101 and TR-8S videos. This is my centrepiece!!
...and I still can't do anything more than about 8 bars with it. 😭😆
Nothing personal;)
You can do it! Just double them 8 bars and add a little variation! Boom…you’ve got a song!
This synth engine gave me many satisfactions while learning to use, it is very pleasent to use the nobs and the sequencer to program tracks, discover sounds and playing with them. This synth with a good midi keyboard it is a good match. Cheers
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MY BABY!! It's pretty damn perfect in many ways. You can do so much with it. I've had it for years and I don't pretend to understand all the features. The scatter is great, the sound shaping is deep and the step sequencer can do some fun things. Chord mode is great, really flexible. It's a damn workstation in a box. You'll need to beef up the sounds with a bit of tweak and I never once found a BASS on this sucker that I like after all these years. The random patch feature is fun but useless in the end. I'll absolutely buy the next gen if they make some improvements. I want kits and I'd like the sampler to be a bit less annoying to use. Overall, a budget masterpiece if you consider the current used prices.
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It took me forever to understand how to do direct sampling from an input, but other than that MC-707 is pretty easy to use!
I've been waiting for this one ! Thanks!
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OHHH I've been waiting for this one! hahahah
It was about time!!!
@@AudioPilz I have one, I love it and use it a lot, still I totally agree with your comments about it! especially the voice stealing and extremely vanilla boring preset sounds (drums above all)
Oh wow, Wangan Midnight in the final track! Finally i have recognized the closing visuals lol. Great vid as always
Thanks!!! Underrated!!!
That final jam is FILTHY! Instant stank face. Gotta love these silly Roland boxes. Maybe we'll get one with an actual display in 2045... :P
Thank you!!!
Take a look at MC-909 😉
I always love your demo tunes SO MUCH. Truly, you are a God.
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I sense Verselab MV-1 is approaching soon!!!
Maybe;)
I think this episode has some of my fave music of yours so far. So good.
Thank you so much!!!
Because it actually has everything in one box and I'm high fidelity. Crazy thing is, all of this can be done using Roland Cloud zen beats, no need to spend $700. It's zen-core engine it's also in the verselab mv1 if you want all the sounds for over half the cost in hardware
Hey finally a piece of gear I had and didn't like! My main problem was the combo of menu diving plus the tiny screen plus the odd viewing angle of said tiny screen. For hobbyists like me the whole point of hardware is to be hands on. If I'm going to have to meticulously assign knob functions and build my tracks out on a screen... why wouldn't I just use a DAW with a better screen and have more tracks, more effects, more... everything and then just spend the time to assign the knobs on my controller? This product just felt so confused. Great video as always though!
Thank you!!!
Dang now I’m missing my 101. The woovebox is gone too, a great little machine but put off by the steep learning curve. Well it was going to be a 707 or an MPC one and I went AKAI ward, ho hum. Now that you mention it the 707 (and the 101) are well overdue a refresh.
Really enjoyed the 101!
Great work as always. They say that Florian is the unofficial fifth Kraftwerker.
I'm pretty sure by now that Roland HQ has a dossier on you.
Thank you!!!
@@AudioPilz Bitte....schnell bitte bitte schnell!
Ooh, I have two MC707's (and an old Mackie mixer with an Alesis 3630) looking forward to view this episode.
Nice setup!!!
I own many groove boxes…. This is my favorite….
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Please make a list.
Owning a Maschine Plus too or an AKAI MPC??
Ah I loved rebirth.
No jokes, used it for my last album - sounds nice!
I have a TR-8s, I don't need the MC-707, I'm sure, I'm fine, I'm... yeah I don't need it ... aaaarrrrgggghhhh!
Lol
As a multi-timbral synth for external sequencing, there's very little that can touch it.
Combatting polyphony issues is time consuming, but dumping channels out to a sample and then loading a load of them into a drumkit allows you to have several songs in the bank at once.
Interesting workaround
"bus compressor" 😆
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Hell yeah, a Roland episode. Classic.
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Roland VERSELAB MV-1 must be on the hit list.
I watched the live release in horror as some hip-hop producer who had clearly not done his homework dissed his way through the functions and more or less said his old MPC was so much better.
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Great suggestion, thank you!!!
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Amazing episode for me. This is the most attractive gear to me since its launch. Sort of a Classic, but I think I could do good and genuine performance with. Also the sampler aspect i'd like to learn about (not in my normal way). Your third demo is so nice, and convincing. Thank you for your communicative smile Florian ! Oops, just : Zen core is fabulous for me, quality, pleasure. Love Roland !
Thank you!!!
Not the 707 as well... Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!
Nothing personal;)
Finally, but still waiting for Virus, Typhoon and Minilogue XD episode ❤
I was waiting in anticipation for the 707 to get its love. Best sound module available for the money.
Nothing is safe, apparently.
All your gear are bad to us
This thing sounds incredible, the patterns that you’re creating is wicked as always, appreciate your skill and most of all your humour 😂
Thank you so much!!!
MC 707 Its by far the most powerful "groovebox" and affordable tool from any other ones available plus, it comes with the Zencore library. Maybe MPC force is also one of them
MPC synths are really nice!!!
Agree, the MPC synths sound way better than the 707.
Akai Force is WAY better than the 707 in every department only thing 707 has going for it is the faders
I agree but takes more $ to have expansions and plugins
I have my Roland fanboy membership card as well lol 🤣
Yet it was not until I acquired a Fantom 07 late 2023 did I finally begin to appreciate how Roland allows users to construct scenes etc. Until then, I was completely lost on every device that had scenes except the MC-707!
Thanks for bringing us home with this video and exposing the redundacy no matter how much Roland Kool-Aid we have consumed lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Always a pleasure;)
The name "klangfarbe" will never not be funny :)
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I enjoyed this episode! Wouldnt mind effect pedals on the show tbh.
Great idea, thanks!!!
ach...ich bin immer noch froh, dass ich mir stattdessen die FORCE gekauft habe.
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Panning hihats, ILLEGAL MOVE! 😁
It's a must!!!
As always, vivid and fair review, keep it up
Thank you so much!!!
This week's episode achieved a memetastic MPE rating of 91 memes contained within...extra points for multiple Nick Batts!
Thanks for keeping the statistics up to date!!!
@@AudioPilz will we see a Nick Batt face superimposed over the slapping Batman meme at some point?! Holy CowBell! Battman!
I was totally expecting/awaiting this!
Long overdue!!!
Yooooo! Wagan Midinight! Best 420Z.
Classic!!!
Re: sample streaming 5:40
In Storage Mode you can drag and drop samples onto the SD card from your computer over USB (or mobile device with USB OTG).
Thanks for the heads up but it’s more about playing samples without having to load them to RAM
Oh dear, my beloved and behated 707...
I am on the Force now, but the 707 had something special!
Force FTW!!!
Same here! Had the 707 and now i am on the force and mpc … my main complain was playing a controller keyboard and adjusting wrong notes or pedals that the mc707 dis not get. On the force or mpc is much easier with the multitouch screen and bars. Miss the roland sounds so i bought a mc101 only to get the 3000 available sounds.
@@AudioPilz oh we definitely need a bad gear force episode, its like the forgotten redheaded step child of akai that is simultaneously infuriating to work with but amazing for its capabilities when you do get it to work right.....until you run out of ram
I read it as "I am one with the Force now"! 😱 May the 4th be with you!
@@Xcopeta I switched to Maschine and..ehm. im happy. :D
Absolutely brilliant as always 😢
Thank you so much!!!
My Rocket and M-Base also like to snuggle.
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Yay, another great friday episode :) Happy weekend, thank you for the content!
Have a nice weekend!!!
"Thank God it's Friday."
Have a nice weekend!!!
Great vid as always! I have to say the comment that was mad that there wasn't a D-Beam killed me! 😂
That one had me rofling too!
Ah the device I really wanted to love but ended up hating. Never printed a return label with such glee.
I feel you!!!
My favourite bit of music tech is the MC707. Once you learn the shortcuts and all the tricks it’s the fastest way to put tracks together without being stuck in front of a computer. Give it a few weeks of daily use and all becomes clear.
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I just bought one jfc 😢
Nothing personal;)
It's a dope machine, just give it some time : )
It’s very good, especially if you want to use a few external synths
First two jams rock, and this groove box rules!
Thank you!
The MC 707. When your ADHD isn't ADHD enough
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Oh that explains why I love it
I just bought my 2nd MC 707 last week after 3 years of 8 hour a day punishment on m O.G. had worn it down 👇 quite a bit but nothing a servicing would've fix i just couldn't resist the 72 Zen Core Soundpacks and v.1.8 the one on Ebay was offering 😮i can Honestly say i couldn't function without my 707 as it controls all my 17 other bit of Hardware and is an Amazing sequencer and FX unit for my other synths, i could go on endefinitly about it's good points and really struggle to think of anything Negative about it.
It Truly is a Wonderful piece of Kit ❤❤❤❤😊Jaffa Jenkins Dawless jams 😊
Even the worst Roland gear is still top in my charts, most of my music has some kind of Roland gear being used in it. 👍
I want a Roland groove box so bad due to the tech and classic sounds, but the UX kills me.
Agreed!!!
@@milk_bath I have the 101 also and it is great. The sounds are amazing and it does what I need for my genre. I combine it with tb-3 and jdxi mixed with mx-1. What more could a rave head like me need.
I have the MC 101 but still want the 707.. I tried it out in a music shop once and got lost in a world of my own! having all those tracks and those tracks having faders is perfect for groove box... sure you can make whole songs if you can be arsed with that matrix but grooveboxes are best when you just jam out.
…. So now after much EBay lurkage I have “won”/bought a newish 707 for 400 sheets!.. given the 101 is around 300-350 on the bay I think I got a good deal… even if don’t really need it 🤣 GAS is a real bummer!
That arpeggiator before the break sounded 🔥 I love arpeggiators with motion recording
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Hey Florian meme meister, I own both of those ancient rack unit's 9:30 thank you 😂
The middle one Yamaha TG500 has lived in my garden shed for the last ten years and the bottom
one, the Triton rack is a monster, that I still can't figure out, how to turn it into a desktop unit.
Thanks for another great video.
Thank you so much!!!
Great job as always! That finale jam was sounding niiice (well, they all did, but you know what I mean). The MC-707 doesn't seem too bad.
5:24 Why?? 😆
Thank you!!!
Wonderful Jamz You make with Bad 🧟 Gear ⚙️!!
Thank you so much!!!
probably as good as your Uncle Jerry makes right?
The 707 is an awesome piece of kit. I use 2 of them for my Techno Live Set and this allows me to carry heaps less gear and have heaps of options available. The voice management is not as bad as you have said. I have had my units since they were released and only had to replace 1 channel fader so far.
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Great review! I have one - used to once in 3 years lol - I totally agree with your main points: 1) xen core = lacklustre 2) workflow is ok until u have to menu dive. It looks great tho, plenty of controls and colours, display sucks. I'll probably remember I have one in 10yrs time and fire it up again :)
Thank you so much!!!
Great video.
Thank you!!!
I am unlikely to evrer use an MC 707 but the memes on this were especially strong. Nick with "It has PWM, right?" and then the "Famous compser, Jean Michel Jarre..." Oh my god! Hilarious. You got some very good sounds out of this machine, particularly with the downtempo dub techno .
Thank you!!!
I forgot about this thing. Thanks for the reminder!
Always a pleasure;)
Last time when I was watching your Roland TR8S episode after that I just bought it, this time money ran out 😅 but I will buy it any way like any other gear that you review it here from Roland Aira, again grate episode men, High 5 from Poland 🎉
Thank you so much!!!
Oh man!!! I’ve been waiting on this one! I think I requested it more than once. Please make the price go up so I can sell mine 🤣. I do love it tho. Except for the UI and workflow and all 🤣🤣🤣
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Have you looked into the M8 tracker? I think it's in a really good state right now and would be a fun episode to do. I'd also suggest looking into LSDJ, the tracker application for the Gameboy that the M8's interface is primarily based on. It feels like the M8 was specifically designed for chiptune producers that wanted to get into more contemporary electronic music production.
Great suggestion, thanks!!!
Memeception is complete now that my recursive Bad Gear meme was actually included in an episode. Also, a Roland MC episode NEVER disappoints 🤩
Thank you so much!!!
You're killing it, man. Some of my favourite bad gear of all time comes from Roland 😅
Thank you!!!
Invaluable content as always! @7:28 Somehow I'd never tried that! Paused video, grabbed SK-1 (always within reach) and hilarity ensued. A fake vomit sound works well too. :)
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First thing I ever bought was an MC707. Sold and bought too much gear since then, and I’m currently looking for another one. It was the best hardware device I’ve ever owned but was too much of a novice to realise it at the time. Nothing can do as much as this except the MPC One.
I make pop and synthpop too, so it’s not limited genre-wise.
Nice!
Spending the time to eq all the tracks a little and dial in the master compressor make a huge difference using this thing live! I love what it offers as a production tool i just hate the process of editing things. Plus for something that retails new for $999 it's pretty flimsy feeling. First thing i did was get a deck saver for it before bringing it anywhere because i do not trust that the knobs or faders will hold up to any kind of impact.
Agreed!!!
Well now I got to have one. Thanks.
Always a pleasure;)
I was looking forward to this! Maybe the time is right for an all Roland Aira gear episode? With 4 TB-3's? 😂
Definitely need a fourth ine!
Another Roland deserving of the Bad Gear stamp! The screen alone qualified it upon release. :D
Ironically a better screen than you get for Zen Core on the Jupiter-X or Juno-X, though! :D
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Excellent as always! This time's suggestion is something that probably won't make it to the show. Presently YAMAHA GS1 exists in two software forms: as Xils Lab Kaox plugin, what has absolutely nothing to do with the original, and even does without the world famous ENS effect! The more authentic one is the sample-based/modelled version GS-V by ikmultimedia. It were extemely interesting to hear/see how you integrate the latter in your musical workflow & most of all how that would sound.
Wow, that's a deep cut. Thanks!!!
Having a dedicated Bad Gear playlist is the highest honour for a synth manufacturer.
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OMG finally !!!!
Thank you
None too soon...
Great episode! What about the Verselab MV-1?
Great suggestion, thanks!!!
@@AudioPilz this one should have made it before the 707 🤣
Das Ding ist Klasse! Gebe meine nicht mehr her 😅 so eine Spaß-Maschine 🎉
Nice!!!
Did you review the Mc 909? I liked that thing.
Great suggestion , thanks!!!