Elpis does have a funny shaped utter. I noticed it before you even said anything. Hearing the babies scream while you're milking their mamas is so cute. They clearly think they are going to die haha.🤣
YES! There are currently 6 SOLD goats in the barn and one pending sale. It's kinda nuts to look out there and realize that but in not very long I'm going to be so thankful for the space!
SAME! We could use a good replacement for Christine in the production lineup. She will be retired to pasture now on an extended lactation as long as her condition keeps up! ♥
Good call on alfalfa. More protein = more parasite resilience and resistance. They need protein to replace what the worms/coccidia take out of them, and it helps the kids grow to their potential if they get any. I dispute the low winter production on standards thing though. You can totally milk a lamancha through though, but you'd have to go up to 2x daily. You may not get the full 12 lbs per day, but it should be close to a gallon or a little under.
And the twice per day is where I draw the line, really! Once a day really works best for my schedule, but who knows, we truly could be milking some lamanchas or minis on an extended lactation and foregoing a fall kidding sometime in the future. Because I don't require a ton of milk for winter, the lesser volume could be just fine. I've seen Christine do it well and others may too! :) Really I could see myself being content to milk a mancha once a day through winter if I'm getting a quart per milking. I think that's doable!
The more does we milk and keep, the pickier we get over here, so I totally get it! I also think that by hand milking we learn the things we want and the ones we don’t in future breedings❤ Needles to say, the milking machine makes a big difference, I just ordered a new simple pulse, and I can’t wait for it to get here 😊 Who is Elpis’ sire? I don’t remember 🙈 dad to daughters is the saying… and moms to sons 😂 In my experience is sooooo true! Good luck friend! ❤
Her sire was the Lamancha Buck we Had named cash, His mother is A Grand Champion from Majenli lines and in looking up that line that blocky style that looks overfilled is what they breed. It apparently wins shows but it's not amazing for a homesteader. Hard to deal with. www.allinfarmgoats.com/lmdoes.htm
@@SageandStoneHomestead that is probably what they are breeding towards, it makes sense, but they are different breeds so it makes sense that they look different!
Yes for sure!! Nefarious' Black is recessive and Gold is dominant, It will be interesting to see if they have NO black babies! If they have black babies it will mean they carry the recessive gene
@@SageandStoneHomesteadoh, cool! That will be interesting! I didn’t know black is recessive. I assumed it was dominant with absolutely no evidence. Oops 🫢
It can appear that way when a black goat is bred to others that have a recessive black gene. Because it's got the majority in that case you'll see a lot of it. A black goat is double recessive.
Love this video, we are in the process of some culls and keeps. Its exciting to get to the point where you get to keep some "bests" 😊 our nigi/fainter mix FF has surprised us with a very nice udder and she kidded a massivd gorgeous blue eyed polled black and white doeling who will be retained ❤️ im super excited after 3 years of having goats to be at this point! Cant wait to see your Nefarious kids!
Beautiful udders!! We are doing something similar with our herd this year, bringing in more high capacity milkers. The goal is more milk from less goats. We are phasing out our nigerians and bringing in 2 more nubians in milk next month. So excited!
Good morning Beautiful, bummer you have to give up on so many of your fur babies so you can improve your heard. I am so happy your girls have had good births so far. I look forward to more new stuff this year.
@@SageandStoneHomestead We've used both. I gave the one with livamol to my bucks bc it took my does for.ev.er to eat it all on the milk stand. Now the does get the plain one on the stand. They barely notice it. All but one of them are bowl-lickers😁
I just have rabbits and chickens so far. Anyway, It is such a thrill to have offspring improvements! Kinda addicting. 😅 I learn so much here. It will help when I start my dairy sheep adventure. I know there’s differences but I am in the same climate as you and we often have the same weather patterns ( Southern MO)
Thank you for taking us along on this milking adventure! It was so wild to see the changes in the udders before and after milking. Have you considered adding an anti-slip mat to the milking stand? I'm sure it would help Elips find her footing a little more assuredly - I'm aware sometimes she is just a little less steady on her feet than others, but she seems to be holding good condition this time. Really cute how Trinity just decided to nurse with the boys. LOL
I had one and I took it off because It was more slippery than the wood in not very long from getting worn down and things getting stuck/molded into the fine grooves on the mat. I need to probably source a higher quality mat. That one was a grill mat from TSC I think??
Elvis almost fell you need to get some duct tape and put on that thing because it's like an abrasion you know what I mean cuz the wood slippery are you one of your goats is going to get hurt Heather😊
Yay! I can't wait for your hard cheese video! Kidding just started here so I'll be getting milk in about 2 weeks. I'm excited to try hard cheeses this summer.
I always enjoy watching your videos of milking!! I do hate to see those girls move on, but understand completely your reasoning. It's wonderful that you found a buyer to take them all together!! Less stress for the girls and I'm sure that it is comforting for you as well!! The babies are growing so quickly!! I'm excited to see Nefarious babies arrive at Sage and Stone!!❤ Thanks for sharing a great video!! Praying for you and everyone to be spared any severe weather this week!!🙏 Stay safe!!🙏❤
Prayers for you too Cindy! it seems to be concentrating in Illinois with general thunder and average spring winds here. If the winds calm down later today I may be able to peek at my bees. 75 for a high today! Bonkers!!
That's a common misconception. We do eat excess goats but that wasn't the case here, thankfully. They deserve to be milked! We do use chemical wormers when needed, the bioworma is to help cut down on frequency of worming since we are not set up for rotational grazing.
It's called BioWorma! There is a more concentrated version or this one: www.premier1supplies.com/p/livamol-with-bioworma?variant=780238&PMax%3A%20%28ROI%29%20Smart%20Shopping%20-%20Equipment&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAivGuBhBEEiwAWiFmYej60aAqEU5jxBqgXAmdRU3FRgP2oycd8EVJMbAJp1N6IL6N_wp1cBoCNToQAvD_BwE
Heather, Do you give CDT to your goats before kidding? My sheep require it but I’m new to goats and I can’t seem to find anything. Mine are due in April. PS. Love those babies!
We don't give anything. Our herd is not vaccinated unless they come in that way from another farm. We do disease test. The general rule of thumb if you do want to give it is 1 month before kidding in pregnant goats. Babies would get a booster after I think 6 weeks? Definitely cross check this info! ♥
@@SageandStoneHomestead ok. I was thinking about doing it the same time I would do my sheep, which is what you mentioned. I think it’s a good safeguard anyway. Thanks!
It seems in talking with other breeders that that trait seems dominant. I do have one Mini that is over 70% Nigerian so I'm watching her closely to see what she may do! (tori, she's too small to breed soon anyway though)
So great to see more of the goatie goats, good reminders about personalities and how different does can be as far as milk stand behavior and amount of milk, etc. Very happy the four girls are going together, I know that farm will appreciate them greatly! Super excited for upcoming kiddings, really hoping for doelings for you from Clover! Elara and Jupiter are so stinking sweet! Will be a bit of a wait, but also excited to see how Stormy's kidding goes this fall. I really appreciate that you show how you can get fresh milk year round with some planning. Looking forward to the cheese videos! 💚💚
Fresh milk year round is so nice. Milking every day takes work but when I can hand milk just a few once a day in winter it isn't really that much to do, and the milk is worth it! ❤️
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Good morning!
Heather I just cant get over the cheese!!🎉🎉
Me either actually LOL! ♥
Good morning!
Elpis does have a funny shaped utter. I noticed it before you even said anything. Hearing the babies scream while you're milking their mamas is so cute. They clearly think they are going to die haha.🤣
It's like... Square?? Very odd LOL
Herd gets bigger, herd gets small, and all the while we’re trying to make continuous improvements. Challenging and fun!
YES! There are currently 6 SOLD goats in the barn and one pending sale. It's kinda nuts to look out there and realize that but in not very long I'm going to be so thankful for the space!
Very glad you found a good home for 'the girls'! I'm excited to see Clover's kids & praying you get a doeling from her! God bless!
SAME! We could use a good replacement for Christine in the production lineup. She will be retired to pasture now on an extended lactation as long as her condition keeps up! ♥
Good morning Heather 🙏 ❤. Sending lots of love from 🇯🇲💯💞
Hugs!! ♥♥
Love your goats and your vids. TY. I am sure these decisions are difficult.
They are!
Great video & so interesting about the different breeds of goats. Adorable babies! Thanks for sharing! 🤗🇨🇦
You got it going on girl!!!! Good job!!!
Good call on alfalfa. More protein = more parasite resilience and resistance. They need protein to replace what the worms/coccidia take out of them, and it helps the kids grow to their potential if they get any. I dispute the low winter production on standards thing though. You can totally milk a lamancha through though, but you'd have to go up to 2x daily. You may not get the full 12 lbs per day, but it should be close to a gallon or a little under.
And the twice per day is where I draw the line, really! Once a day really works best for my schedule, but who knows, we truly could be milking some lamanchas or minis on an extended lactation and foregoing a fall kidding sometime in the future. Because I don't require a ton of milk for winter, the lesser volume could be just fine. I've seen Christine do it well and others may too! :) Really I could see myself being content to milk a mancha once a day through winter if I'm getting a quart per milking. I think that's doable!
The more does we milk and keep, the pickier we get over here, so I totally get it!
I also think that by hand milking we learn the things we want and the ones we don’t in future breedings❤
Needles to say, the milking machine makes a big difference, I just ordered a new simple pulse, and I can’t wait for it to get here 😊
Who is Elpis’ sire? I don’t remember 🙈 dad to daughters is the saying… and moms to sons 😂
In my experience is sooooo true!
Good luck friend! ❤
Her sire was the Lamancha Buck we Had named cash, His mother is A Grand Champion from Majenli lines and in looking up that line that blocky style that looks overfilled is what they breed. It apparently wins shows but it's not amazing for a homesteader. Hard to deal with. www.allinfarmgoats.com/lmdoes.htm
@@SageandStoneHomestead that is probably what they are breeding towards, it makes sense, but they are different breeds so it makes sense that they look different!
Never a dull moment watching the babies.
agreed! ♥
Thank you for sharing. Love and Blessings to you all.
❤❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏🙏 Doris, Penrith 🇦🇺🦘
Ill be anxiously awaiting bearli's birth. The two of them should have some beautiful kids!
Yes for sure!! Nefarious' Black is recessive and Gold is dominant, It will be interesting to see if they have NO black babies! If they have black babies it will mean they carry the recessive gene
@@SageandStoneHomesteadoh, cool! That will be interesting! I didn’t know black is recessive. I assumed it was dominant with absolutely no evidence. Oops 🫢
It can appear that way when a black goat is bred to others that have a recessive black gene. Because it's got the majority in that case you'll see a lot of it. A black goat is double recessive.
@@SageandStoneHomestead I know that a recessive gene cannot manifest unless it is double. Like red head people. 😉
Love this video, we are in the process of some culls and keeps. Its exciting to get to the point where you get to keep some "bests" 😊 our nigi/fainter mix FF has surprised us with a very nice udder and she kidded a massivd gorgeous blue eyed polled black and white doeling who will be retained ❤️ im super excited after 3 years of having goats to be at this point! Cant wait to see your Nefarious kids!
Beautiful udders!! We are doing something similar with our herd this year, bringing in more high capacity milkers. The goal is more milk from less goats. We are phasing out our nigerians and bringing in 2 more nubians in milk next month. So excited!
THAT is exciting!! Congrats!!
Exciting! We are doing that from the inside, keeping doelings from our best milkers and culling the good but less quantity/less quality udder does.
Good morning Beautiful, bummer you have to give up on so many of your fur babies so you can improve your heard. I am so happy your girls have had good births so far. I look forward to more new stuff this year.
My goats just lick up the Bioworma when i top dress it
Do you use the one with the filler? The greenish additive? Mine for a while would barely eat their grain with it on there. They hated it!
@@SageandStoneHomestead We've used both. I gave the one with livamol to my bucks bc it took my does for.ev.er to eat it all on the milk stand. Now the does get the plain one on the stand. They barely notice it. All but one of them are bowl-lickers😁
Elpis was ready and excited to get on the milking stand! I'm glad you were able to keep the 4 girls together. :)
She was. She is the only one that's slipped and fallen on the stand, it's like a once a year tradition lol
I just have rabbits and chickens so far. Anyway, It is such a thrill to have offspring improvements! Kinda addicting. 😅
I learn so much here. It will help when I start my dairy sheep adventure. I know there’s differences but I am in the same climate as you and we often have the same weather patterns ( Southern MO)
That will be AWESOME. I do kind of want some sheep someday, for milk, meat, but mostly for wool. Project of the distant future!!
Thank you for taking us along on this milking adventure! It was so wild to see the changes in the udders before and after milking. Have you considered adding an anti-slip mat to the milking stand? I'm sure it would help Elips find her footing a little more assuredly - I'm aware sometimes she is just a little less steady on her feet than others, but she seems to be holding good condition this time. Really cute how Trinity just decided to nurse with the boys. LOL
I had one and I took it off because It was more slippery than the wood in not very long from getting worn down and things getting stuck/molded into the fine grooves on the mat. I need to probably source a higher quality mat. That one was a grill mat from TSC I think??
Elvis almost fell you need to get some duct tape and put on that thing because it's like an abrasion you know what I mean cuz the wood slippery are you one of your goats is going to get hurt Heather😊
I am looking into getting another non-slip mat. My last one actually got really slippery over time because the bumps wore down ♥
Yay! I can't wait for your hard cheese video! Kidding just started here so I'll be getting milk in about 2 weeks. I'm excited to try hard cheeses this summer.
I always enjoy watching your videos of milking!! I do hate to see those girls move on, but understand completely your reasoning. It's wonderful that you found a buyer to take them all together!! Less stress for the girls and I'm sure that it is comforting for you as well!! The babies are growing so quickly!! I'm excited to see Nefarious babies arrive at Sage and Stone!!❤ Thanks for sharing a great video!! Praying for you and everyone to be spared any severe weather this week!!🙏 Stay safe!!🙏❤
Prayers for you too Cindy! it seems to be concentrating in Illinois with general thunder and average spring winds here. If the winds calm down later today I may be able to peek at my bees. 75 for a high today! Bonkers!!
@@SageandStoneHomestead Crazy isn’t it!!😊
Do you have to use any additional wormers other than the bio wormer? When you used the word cull I immediately think of slaughter😮
That's a common misconception. We do eat excess goats but that wasn't the case here, thankfully. They deserve to be milked! We do use chemical wormers when needed, the bioworma is to help cut down on frequency of worming since we are not set up for rotational grazing.
What was the fungal worker and where do you get it? I have a doe that looks exactly like Elpis. Love my LaMancha goats so much!
It's called BioWorma! There is a more concentrated version or this one: www.premier1supplies.com/p/livamol-with-bioworma?variant=780238&PMax%3A%20%28ROI%29%20Smart%20Shopping%20-%20Equipment&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAivGuBhBEEiwAWiFmYej60aAqEU5jxBqgXAmdRU3FRgP2oycd8EVJMbAJp1N6IL6N_wp1cBoCNToQAvD_BwE
Heather, Do you give CDT to your goats before kidding? My sheep require it but I’m new to goats and I can’t seem to find anything. Mine are due in April.
PS. Love those babies!
We don't give anything. Our herd is not vaccinated unless they come in that way from another farm. We do disease test. The general rule of thumb if you do want to give it is 1 month before kidding in pregnant goats. Babies would get a booster after I think 6 weeks? Definitely cross check this info! ♥
@@SageandStoneHomestead ok. I was thinking about doing it the same time I would do my sheep, which is what you mentioned. I think it’s a good safeguard anyway. Thanks!
@@kmorris1332 sounds like a plan!! ❤️🐐
Do you think it’s necessary to shave the girls before milking season?
I'm not sure if you noticed but none of mine are shaved. It really is preference :)
QUESTION: What is the name of the Natural Worm you used ..I Have been looking for a more Natural Way...Love Your Channel
BioWorma! You can get it at Premier One!
We've had a great time using land of havalah herbal dewormer (we give it 2x a week) there are great natural options out there!
Hi! Where do you sell your goats? Thank you for the amazing video!
We usually are able to sell them from here by people emailing us but we also post on our local Craigslist.
Is the going into heat any time of year gene dominant or recessive or random? what is the breeding cycle for minimanchas?
It seems in talking with other breeders that that trait seems dominant. I do have one Mini that is over 70% Nigerian so I'm watching her closely to see what she may do! (tori, she's too small to breed soon anyway though)
I have a mini lamancha 50/50 she goes into heat year round and gave us October kids ❤️ so it is possible!
@@daughterofmyabba YAY I'd love that!!!
Great information love watching your channel thank you, can you tell us what the wormer you used in the goats food was and where do you buy it?
It's called BioWorma and we get it from Premier One!
So great to see more of the goatie goats, good reminders about personalities and how different does can be as far as milk stand behavior and amount of milk, etc. Very happy the four girls are going together, I know that farm will appreciate them greatly! Super excited for upcoming kiddings, really hoping for doelings for you from Clover! Elara and Jupiter are so stinking sweet! Will be a bit of a wait, but also excited to see how Stormy's kidding goes this fall. I really appreciate that you show how you can get fresh milk year round with some planning. Looking forward to the cheese videos! 💚💚
Fresh milk year round is so nice. Milking every day takes work but when I can hand milk just a few once a day in winter it isn't really that much to do, and the milk is worth it! ❤️