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  • @ManganimistYT
    @ManganimistYT  День тому +2

    Hope everyone's having a good weekend

    • @haremking7256
      @haremking7256 18 годин тому

      why didnt netero have post mortum nen?

  • @ericb8241
    @ericb8241 День тому +165

    Why don’t people read the story is a better title. Pariston kept denying all his requests.

    • @thesonofsuns5404
      @thesonofsuns5404 День тому +15

      Thank God for you. I was literally scratching my head the minute I read the title.

    • @paul-nj1ig
      @paul-nj1ig День тому +1

      Were the zodiacs not aware that netero was dealing with the ants

    • @t-god2439
      @t-god2439 День тому

      @@paul-nj1igthat sentence dealing with ants 🐜

    • @regalroyn1011
      @regalroyn1011 День тому +10

      ​@@paul-nj1igPariston blocking it, most of the people in Hunter association are on his side too so information manipulation or denying reinforcement is possible. We also see how the other chimera ants are mishandled

    • @didack1419
      @didack1419 22 години тому +7

      I know, but I don't think I buy the justification. We've seen important hunters who are not at all constrained by the bureaucracy of the association, who just take jobs. Netero did hire Zeno personally as an assassin (why not Silva too? He even showed up but he didn't really fight, and budget constraints are not a believable limitation). If we take the situation seriously, you still need to rationalize a lot to explain why he didn't bring more people.
      I prefer to start by acknowledging that this is a plot convenience. I don't like to just completely ignore the obvious meta reasons when the narrative justifications are lacking.

  • @stick9898
    @stick9898 18 годин тому +6

    "Because Togashi hadn't thought of them yet"
    -Ishizu Ishtar

  • @sapomen1352
    @sapomen1352 День тому +57

    "is there a lore reason netero didnt call the zodiacs? Is he stupid"

  • @TheMegaFireFox90
    @TheMegaFireFox90 День тому +25

    what if netero was scared that he might've gotten taken out and poor man's rose would hit the zodiacs as collateral?

    • @Clooger-
      @Clooger- День тому +6

      Fairly likely.

    • @Jandrø-8
      @Jandrø-8 День тому +2

      @@Clooger-that would’ve been devastating. Netero kept his professionalism after he knew the gravity of the situation. And went all out

  • @Bft149
    @Bft149 День тому +20

    He wanted a final fight and die…thats all

  • @jojobod
    @jojobod День тому +111

    If he called Kashimo he would have lived

  • @loreofdawnmlbb
    @loreofdawnmlbb День тому +8

    netero be like: nah i’d win

  • @AdHominem-001
    @AdHominem-001 День тому +16

    Cause he wanted to do it ALONE! 😒😮‍💨
    Morel and Novu skills are perfect to induce 1 vs 1 fights 👀.
    Even after the invasion mission. Netero could call all hunter or make an emergency call. He desired a 1x1 fight to the death, the Kokoro T-Shirt is prove of that!
    The Rose was an insurance to the Hunter association not take the blame 🤷🤦.

  • @degen7278
    @degen7278 День тому +7

    This video illustrates the brilliance of the writing in HunterxHunter. Everyone while is a cog to some extent, they still have their own nuances and interests and ultimately are self serving foremost.

  • @rif5556
    @rif5556 День тому +65

    Honestly, if Meruem saw the bunch of them all coming in too kill him he wouldn't be just dodging and running like he was against Netero. We're likely looking at a whole lot of headless hunters. Netero survived so long because Meruem allowed him to, its pretty evident in the story. Most of the zodiacs likely get one shot by Meruem if he feels like it.

    • @camthechameleon2577
      @camthechameleon2577 День тому +10

      facts and i dont really know how any hunter could combo along with Netero's hatsu ability other than like a hold Meruem still

    • @lurisy9045
      @lurisy9045 День тому +5

      @@camthechameleon2577honestly ironic as it is 😂 hisoka after dying is stronger now I’m sure he’d be great use with bungee gum and his regeneration being able to keep him in the fight. He’d have to let netero handle 85%

    • @s-for-success-for-s
      @s-for-success-for-s День тому +5

      It's poor writing. Or a plot hole.
      He allowed Morel to join the extermination team: a mere SEA HUNTER.
      If he wanted to prevent any unnecessary deaths, I'm pretty sure he would have selected the fittest of all subordinates.
      In short, the zodiacs weren't in the Chimera Ant Arc simply because it would have been easier for the mission.
      Also, can we stop ignoring how lame and dumb it was for grandpa and father Zoldyck to NOT join the fight.?
      Like they were already there, but they literally almost DIDNT CONTRIBUTE at all.
      Simply because,?
      Komugi [an innocent casualty] got hurt from Dragon Dive. Like
      Wtf, how dumb of a reason can that ever be? LOL

    • @cheeseburgerfreddy6350
      @cheeseburgerfreddy6350 День тому +4

      We don't even know any of their abilities so we can't say for certain that Meruem could just kill them all without effort, I mean this is the same team tasked with exploring a place with creatures more dangerous than Meruem.

    • @ztrujillo96
      @ztrujillo96 День тому +3

      The zodiacs were not getting clapped. Him NOT calling the zodiacs was for power scaling. It also showed how someone so OP, Meruem, wasn't more than a nuke. We know Uvogin if unchecked would have had a nuke worth punch. It also showed how power doesn't equate to winning unlike other mangas.
      HxH is smarter than your imagination will allow.

  • @readysetmood9473
    @readysetmood9473 22 години тому +4

    it was supposed to be an assassination mission to prevent the worst-case scenario. Politics aside, Netero made the right call when he chose his team. When the king was born, calling in the zodiacs would be far too risky at that point.

  • @millionshadesofdarkness2165
    @millionshadesofdarkness2165 День тому +8

    Too many people forget that brute strength is very much defeatable since nen battles arent about strength alone. I think more than just Ging could give meruem a run for his money, just not physically

  • @dimaudalow
    @dimaudalow 23 години тому +2

    I think, one more reason was mentioned by Netero when he pitted Gon and Killua against Knuckle and Shoot. He didn't need the quantity but the fighters who'll be actually useful against the Ants and won't be eaten.
    Not that I doubt the Zodiacs' strength, it's just their abilities which may not be fitting for the particular task. And if more Nen users were to be eaten by the Queen, it'd just produce stronger threats. This remains true even after the King's birth, with his ability to consume Nen and all

  • @JusDion
    @JusDion День тому +2

    I mean if meruem tapped neteros chest the wrong way it would have been goodnight for the entirety of the zodiacs 😅
    🔥🌹🔥

  • @AdrianGonzalez-dl8id
    @AdrianGonzalez-dl8id День тому +10

    one thing that kills me about the dark continent is that don't they have GPS in HXH? Its location tracking so wouldn't they have seen the rest of the world aka dark continent when they went to space..? lol

    • @FateTearsStudios
      @FateTearsStudios День тому +5

      Shhh... asking the real question. I'm guessing someone will bring this up once they reach the continent and it'll get reveal that's the reason why they kept going to different areas imo

    • @AuroraBoost
      @AuroraBoost День тому

      Maybe satelites in HxH are different

    • @Realblack_m0nster
      @Realblack_m0nster День тому

      Ive never thought to ask this question lol

    • @uboa8060
      @uboa8060 11 годин тому

      There isn't logic to it, really. You could call it a plot hole, but with togashi you never know.

  • @LeelosAdventure
    @LeelosAdventure День тому +13

    Imo I always assumed netero just wanted to throw hands. If he called the zodiac they would’ve steam rolled the guards and meruem without netero

    • @ErlangShenlo
      @ErlangShenlo День тому +13

      That is cap because pitou was stronger than netero pre training who was still stronger than the zodiacs. The hunters only won against meruem because of the bomb’s radiation otherwise they wouldve still lost

    • @Clooger-
      @Clooger- День тому +5

      Steam rolled Meruem? HAHAHAHA... good one.

    • @danijeleljackson2180
      @danijeleljackson2180 23 години тому

      You definitely being delusional.

    • @MrMan2006
      @MrMan2006 22 години тому +1

      @@ErlangShenlonah Netero said he was no longer the strongest Hunter at that point.

    • @MrMan2006
      @MrMan2006 22 години тому +1

      also we know the Zodiacs sparred with Netero all the time, and people like Ging are considered top 5 Nen users of all time.
      If there are Zodiacs on Netero’s level, they might be able to pull out a win if they gang up on Meruem or the other ants. They can also use rose bomb and annihilate Meruem.
      Realistically, the Zodiacs DO have decent win cons.

  • @donniecarlson9677
    @donniecarlson9677 День тому +1

    netero definitely just wanted to have fun and do most of the work, probably didnt think he even needed help

  • @shelbywilliams5912
    @shelbywilliams5912 День тому +4

    Knov is only a coward because he had to use zetsu around such powerful ren he couldn't use ten being naked in a blizzard he essentially that.. we also see that happen to Wolfien

    • @thesonofsuns5404
      @thesonofsuns5404 День тому

      But knov never felt than nen. He only looked at it. So being in zetsu wasn't an issue. He was just scared from his how evil it looked.

    • @shelbywilliams5912
      @shelbywilliams5912 День тому

      @thesonofsuns5404 yes I agree but nen also can attack you spiritually as well as psychologically if you're not prepared.. for example the three guys we meet in heaven's arena are all physically disabled as well as scarred from what they call initiation which is basically introducing people that don't know nen to a hostile show of ren.. if the man is great enough you can have physical ramifications on you which is why I mentioned wolfein he aged immediately after feeling king's killing intent

  • @antoinecazayus3176
    @antoinecazayus3176 16 годин тому

    Videos like this one that can be watched by ppl that havnt fully catch up with the manga are cool !

  • @jo3y960
    @jo3y960 День тому +3

    He just thought he was better

  • @willtorres7250
    @willtorres7250 День тому +7

    I disagree on the point of bringing Zeno. I think he brought him with the full intention of fighting with him, but when a civilian got hurt and wasn't part of the plan, Zeno bowed out. And he had to respect that

    • @D.Jackpot
      @D.Jackpot День тому +4

      To fight the royal guard but not the king. The plan was to separate them. Komugi getting hurt actually worked his favor. Silva was also in the sky to get Zeno out if both pitou and poof came back to fight.

    • @Tomiwa101
      @Tomiwa101 12 годин тому

      One thing we've learned about the Zoldycks is that the pick their battles. No way Zeno would choose to fight someone far stronger than Netero who he could never measure up to.

  • @novanomi3362
    @novanomi3362 22 години тому +2

    Do you think Netero was wrong for making his Hatsu so inefficient as an enhancer? Obviously it has its strengths, and with so much nen mastery and nen to use it was still VERY usable, but do you think he limited himself without reason, and got himself killed by doing so? We saw with Kastro, that if you dont follow your nen chart you are not only weakening your current power, you are also not strengthing yourself efficiently for your future growth. I could see a version of Netero using more enhancement from his early life, potentially developing further or maybe this quicker development would bore him even faster stopping his growth at the same point as we see in the canon.

  • @oshi4125
    @oshi4125 День тому +1

    Maybe if Netero called Hakari and played Tuka Donca he wouldve liveda

  • @qqqknxdw
    @qqqknxdw День тому +1

    how is shoot above knov. knov reacted the way he did because he was normal. remember, gon and killua are monsters.

  • @omaranacata6389
    @omaranacata6389 День тому

    Where you get the colored manga. It's beautiful

  • @caliqm2199
    @caliqm2199 День тому +1

    The same reason he didn't bring Zeno to fight Meruem

  • @KushKillz
    @KushKillz День тому +1

    Knov was not a coward!!!! He went into the ant hill by HIMSELF to set up the whole play to make it all possible for the rest of the team. On a secret mission in the enemy territory, I'm sure he was using zetsu which would make him vulnerable poufs aura which mentally broke him as to be expected. Even after that he STILL went back in to help and carried morel out if there. A coward!? A coward goes in alone, & goes back again to help there friends despite previously being traumatized? I'm befuddled, you owe knov an apology you got him twisted.

  • @Tomeroche
    @Tomeroche 6 годин тому

    I mean it's not really that hard to understand.
    1) Netero long to have the greatest fight of his life, while this is not something he's willing to throw the world away on it's something that would color his decisions and decide the kind of plan he'd make.
    2) This was always going to be a suicide mission, heck the plan revolved around Netero dying to activate the Poor Man's Rose. The Ants are disgustingly strong with the king being even more absurd beyond that, anyone sent on that mission was pretty much going to be throwing their life away unless they were like Zeno and only acting as transport.
    3) Netero was confident he didn't need extra help to isolate the king, and in fact that having more people that were strong enough to survive would probably reduce those chances. The plan didn't require the king to be isolated, it was just preferable to not have allies nearby when the bomb went off the other zodiacs being there would do nothing but increase the body count.
    Netero basically looked at the situation and went "Whelp we can't win, we gotta bomb him. Safest way to do that is have me deliver it. Anyone else in the area will just die too so I better do this alone. And since I'm alone I might as well enjoy myself before I go."

  • @MalcolmRidley-sf8uc
    @MalcolmRidley-sf8uc 19 годин тому

    Because he didn’t want them to risk dying bro so simple

  • @b_delta9725
    @b_delta9725 День тому

    Maybe i missed it in the video, and I hope people started sharing this more, but in the first chapter of the election arc Botobai asks why were Knov and Morel called instead of them, and Cheadle says "because the chairman wanted it to be a personal hunt". That's an extremely interesting line, in my opinion, because if Netero said this or expressed this desire to cheadle after the king was born, that's nothing new, but the implication is that he said it the moment he got called to NGL. If that was togashi's intention, then he knew since the start that it was personal, and I'm not gonna talk about how that paints many early scenes from the arc, like the infamous scene where he says he's weaker than Pitou

  • @OTBTCG
    @OTBTCG 20 годин тому

    Weirdly enough, you breaking it down makes more sense, the difference between Netero dying vs Netero and any allies he brings with him

  • @galdoug8918
    @galdoug8918 День тому

    How'd you miss Welfin in the ranking? Colt and Biscii too if u want, but Welfin getting missed???

  • @mtmind3875
    @mtmind3875 День тому +7

    I disagree with that final part even if he had the zodiacs they still wouldn’t have beat the king or guards the only way to defeat them was the rose

    • @ManganimistYT
      @ManganimistYT  День тому +9

      Yeah I’m not saying they woulda beat Meruem if they had all gone, but Netero certainly didn’t know that at the time

    • @ztrujillo96
      @ztrujillo96 День тому +1

      I disagree with your disagreement. It's pretty clear that Netero wasn't top tier. Netero already was done with life, was half his strength, and not even top 5. The chimera ants weren't even a top tier calamity. The Meruem fanboys are delusional and shouldn't even read HxH cause they didn't understand it. Power doesn't mean you just win in HxH.

    • @Lolup-j5m
      @Lolup-j5m 23 години тому

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@ztrujillo96i disagree with your disagree of the disagrement you’re the delusional here meruem at that point was a dragon ball charachter in hxh universe his en allow him literally to travel at the speed of light and the zodiacs are overestimated just hisoka is stronger than all of them exept botobai

  • @cheeseburgerfreddy6350
    @cheeseburgerfreddy6350 День тому +7

    I think if Netero called the zodiacs the ants would have been wiped out a lot faster and sooner, including Meruem and the royal guards. All 12 of them together would have been more than enough and I think Netero knew this and didn't want his chance of a worthy opponent to go to waste.

    • @laphiammocooks1917
      @laphiammocooks1917 День тому

      I think the royal guard would have easily dealt with the zodiacs. Leaving Netero and Meruem to fight and we saw how that went.
      However, if you're saying the zodiacs should have joined the palace invasion. Then the hunters would have killed the royal guard. Albeit with several deaths on their side as well.

    • @cheeseburgerfreddy6350
      @cheeseburgerfreddy6350 День тому +6

      @laphiammocooks1917 How can you say they'd easily deal with them when we don't even know all of their hatsu' and there's 12 of them, one of them is a top 5 nen user and the other(Botobai) is apparently the closest to Netero out of all zodiacs. The royal guards aren't invincible.

    • @wallnut7624
      @wallnut7624 День тому

      ​@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 like wise how could you even say that the zodiacs would win since since we dont know much about them. Meruem can blitz netero. He couldnt do it when theyre fighting because he needed netero alive. Other zodiacs will more than likely get blitz all the same.
      Were all just guessing tbh.

    • @cheeseburgerfreddy6350
      @cheeseburgerfreddy6350 День тому

      @@wallnut7624 Meruem can't just blitz Netero, you've forgotten that it took Meruem getting hit thousands of times before he could formulate a counter attack on Netero. You claim Meruem can simply blitz the zodiacs but again we don't know their nen abilities, this series isn't DBZ in terms of raw aura of course the ants may have the upper hand but the zodiacs are gonna be facing threats greater than Meruem within the dark continent, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss them. Especially when the royal guards struggled with the castle team so much and they aren't anywhere near as capable as the zodiac's hence why Netero didn't call them.

    • @KvngLeroy1
      @KvngLeroy1 День тому

      @@cheeseburgerfreddy6350He wasn’t going full force as to not end Netero so he could learn his name

  • @itachiovermadara
    @itachiovermadara День тому +1

    If Netero had Zeno, Silver and illumi’s help with fighting the Ant King, would that have changed the outcome, would that have even mattered?

    • @Moonmi747
      @Moonmi747 День тому +2

      They don't have enough ap to damage Meruem. They're more of a match for the royal guards.

    • @Tomiwa101
      @Tomiwa101 12 годин тому

      Netero lived that long because his defense was impeccable in terms of speed and power. No one is surviving a hit from Meruem except for Terrabellum.

    • @Edogawa199X
      @Edogawa199X 39 хвилин тому

      Yes overkill. Illumi is on different level

  • @TheNutzak
    @TheNutzak День тому

    Because Togashi hadn't made them up yet

  • @Poorcrabs
    @Poorcrabs День тому

    Do you think killua kurapika and leorio ever reach the same level of power as adult gon in the future?

  • @salah777
    @salah777 День тому

    Because of Mareuem eats them the world ends😂

  • @juliuscaezarbarnido9293
    @juliuscaezarbarnido9293 День тому

    I don't it's pride we all know that netero had been to the dark continent at his young age creatures more powerful than the ant's

  • @canelaspuf
    @canelaspuf День тому

    Meruem would have killed the zodiacs, eat them, replenish his energy and gain more abilities.

  • @YungTigris
    @YungTigris День тому +1

    I think its kinda disingenuous to say Knov is a coward…maybe in his own estimation but he has a somewhat contextual ability and he was at the threshold of some of rhe strongest characters in the series

  • @chiraqbaby3492
    @chiraqbaby3492 22 години тому

    I wanted to see them in action soooo bad.

  • @lin-k1318
    @lin-k1318 День тому

    not having pouf in the top 5 is crazy

  • @Altezza447
    @Altezza447 День тому

    Cause he wanted a challenge

  • @StickElite
    @StickElite 17 годин тому

    Morel should be top 5

  • @AnimationsStudioza
    @AnimationsStudioza День тому

    Cause he’s him

  • @tomimn2233
    @tomimn2233 18 годин тому

    Wait.
    Khabib Nurmagomedov and Justin Gaethje asked you this topic?
    MAN, instead of asking, why not just fight the ants yourselves?!
    Khabib, you were the undisputed UFC Lightweight GOAT before retirement.
    Justin you were the UFC Lightweight Interim Champ and fought Khabib for the title.
    YOU go fight the ants!

  • @zodrac516
    @zodrac516 21 годину тому

    Sorry, but Knov is absolutely not a coward

  • @lexi1337-r6s
    @lexi1337-r6s День тому

    Couldn't 12 Zodiacs easily beat the king if it's 12 on 1? They all look quite bored and have a lot of free time.

  • @lilycat2382
    @lilycat2382 День тому

    🦑+❤ = 🐐

  • @chad63
    @chad63 День тому

    because they wouldve get bodied lmao

  • @RealKimJungUn
    @RealKimJungUn 7 годин тому

    Should have atleast brought the one other zodiac thats a 3 star hunter aawell.

  • @Khitkat222
    @Khitkat222 18 годин тому

    Pls cover one piece

  • @AnimationsStudioza
    @AnimationsStudioza День тому

    Real

  • @jungshin87
    @jungshin87 День тому +5

    The zodiacs suck. Morel is obv better than them all and the other dude had best util

    • @Moonmi747
      @Moonmi747 День тому +3

      Based on your headcanon? We've never seen them in action. Plus it's literally stated that all the zodiacs are above Morel and knov.

  • @mikeindiacharliehotelalpha2373
    @mikeindiacharliehotelalpha2373 День тому +4

    1. They're weak as heck.
    2. He didn't wanna nuke 'em.

    • @MrSub132
      @MrSub132 День тому

      Botobai is not weak. The rest idk tho ngl

    • @tartasaur
      @tartasaur День тому

      This is like the most untrue thing I’ve read when it comes to this series. All of them are the association’s strongest and literal sparring partners for Netero to challenge at his whim, and judging how Morel and Knov aren’t apart of that group it’s safe to assume they’re all above those two

    • @dogukantopal4809
      @dogukantopal4809 День тому

      They are not weeak lol. They are by far the strongest group of nen users.

    • @Moonmi747
      @Moonmi747 День тому +1

      They're among the strongest in the hxh verse. Together I think they should solidly be above the three royal guards. Whether they can beat Meruem I have no idea.

    • @mikeindiacharliehotelalpha2373
      @mikeindiacharliehotelalpha2373 23 години тому

      ​@@tartasaur None of that means anything. The strongest in the association are just the strongest people who were willing to sign up for a dumbass office job i.e. jobbers with not real ambition beyond getting their license and making a steady salary. Netero was so bored he even used pre nen Gon and Killua as "sparring partners", doesn't mean they ever gave him a challenge. Remember when he had to get his groove back by fighting individual chimera ant footsoldiers because he was just that rusty? The Zodiacs are a glorified student council.

  • @cameronrussell6276
    @cameronrussell6276 День тому

    Hot Take: Ikalgo is a useless character. The entire Chimera Any Arc is accomplished with better efficacy, and efficiency without his existence.