Believe it or not but this was my fence! The video doesn't show how bad the weather was, but it was bad, like, real bad! Scott told me and my neighbour that it might get a little messy and we were happy for him to proceed. He got the job done quickly and professionally even though there was an arctic weather storm sweeping up the country. The man is a legend. Fact.
I think this is a good testimony to what we all believe about Scott Brown. I’m not a fan of this style of UA-cam commentary and I’m disappointed the algorithm offered up this toxic garbage. Can someone please nit pick this mans work? 🙄 so many armchair perfectionists on UA-cam these days. Jeez. Thank you for your input captain hindsight. @jamie, credit to you. Man of character. 🙏🏻
If it works for you pal then happy days.but I'd personally recommend some ready mixed cement or "post crete "as it's called here in wales. its cheaper and quick setting excellent for jobs in wet weather and all you need is a watering can,shovel and a level or string line with a weight on the end to get your level and some good old initiative. Not knockin you m8 just never seen it done with such elegance like you done it
@@JoeEverest I agree Scott is a legend he does great work! :) I like how with every criticism said, Scott addressed it a second later lol. Scott clearly did go back and clean up his messy concrete ;) At the end of the day he cleaned up his area and has a solid secure fence that will last a very long time, very good craftsmanship as to be expected! I am biased though as I am subscribed to Scott, I'm sure you may agree with most people he's the "Bob Ross" of carpentry- so chill! The world needs more Bob's, Ha! Have a good day Joe!
I would suggest that, the over-pour you're seeing is actually just excess water that was in the holes that is being hydraulically pushed out as the concrete goes in. It's a little messy, but pretty harmless to the mud patch that it's spilling on to.
what about the concrete going nearly a foot up the posts in some spots? Scott might of clean it off camera but the initial pour was messy, can't deny that...
Having watched most of Scott browns videos I can tell you that this is the one video he has posted where their work isn't a hundred percent and everyone has one job they would have liked to done better and tidier. Him and pareau are actually darn good carpenters. This fencing job was a bit of a mess though. Fair play for reacting to it in the honest and fair way that you have done. 👍😀
Scott Brown is a treasure. The bottom rail was to hold the post up a bit from the bottom of the hole so concrete went all the way around to encapsulate it.
@@stich1960 but I imagine water can still pool in the gravel up to the post, depending on local weather and soil? By making a whole concrete 'sock' it's basically waterproof all the way down right?
@@Juttutin I gusse it would really depend where your at wether that would be good. Concrete is not really waterproof. I have seen post rotten inside the concrete (and nowhere else) when encased because there was alot of water soaked up by the post and nowhere for it to go. Round here it's really dry so post rot is usually is low on the list unless someone royally messed up. But now I am curious @Joe Everest
Fence came out looking good. I feel he went the long way around to get there with the bracing and the concrete cleanup but all the matters is final product and in that I don’t see any issues
@@dougschmidt5132 No it doesn’t get a chance to mix. It displaces pretty well instantly when the concrete is dropped in. Once in place, as concrete hardens, the presence of water actually makes concrete stronger.
@@DiscoFang Thats a big "maybe". I would not take that chance on my job. I would wait for no rain and pump out the post holes. I think all my customers would prefer that anyway.
@@dougschmidt5132 That’s an odd attitude & conclusion. Just because you don’t know or understand concrete doesn’t make it a maybe. It’s how concrete behaves.
@@DiscoFang been in construction for over 40 years and that is a practice I would truly avoid. Too many variables in construction and compromised concrete is one that I don't need to worry about. Not on my watch, just sayin.
You should see his videos on internal work, the guy is a clean freak almost to the point of carrying a vacuum cleaner around in his back pocket. You must have edited out the smoko break, pie time.
To be fair to the legend and thoroughly decent bloke that is Scott Brown he put his hands up straight away and said he'd ballsed up. Owned it and learnt from it. A lesser fella would never have uploaded the vid in the first place.
I did a job like that and it looks like the concrete is doing everywhere but it’s just the water changing colour from the concrete working in swamps is so much fun
I watched all his videos, they are a great team, they are very good at what they do.The concrete pour was the weather's fault, it happens sometimes on a construction site to get a bit messy because of the weather. When it dries out, it will look great with a bit of a cleanup.
Wet vac. for me when it happens but if you know there is rain coming you should try to give the concrete a little dry, setting time before you pour so a few hours before a reason would be better. He said he was trying to get the concrete there sooner so he was obviously trying to beat the rain but unless this is his only job you could have saved that for a more dry day
To be fair, out of the 290 videos of his that I've watched, this is the only time his work has been anything other than exemplary, and I'm happy to forgive him for that. I could and do watch his channel all day, a true craftsman
His recent video about the attic storage proved that he doesn't know much about trusses. He referred to the truss web as "a vertical part of the truss"
Honesty is the best policy as a carpenter myself been doing it for 6 years from framing houses to building fences Mother Nature has her effect on everything but so does experience level,quality of lumber and the terrain so in all honesty the concrete at the bottom was an eye sore but just like the fence alittle elbow grease and it’ll clean up the bracing was a good idea for allowing the concrete to encase the post properly but in reality a 3 most important factors in a fence is if it’s level and square if it’s structurally sound and and if it look good and I’ll agree with both of them the lap joints are a nice touch and it makes the fence just alittle more stable but realistically we in the construction business also not only deal with bad weather we also deal with job deadlines and you never know it may have been a job that had to get done before landscaping work started or so on and so forth but keep up the good work you guys and thanks for being critical some people think constructive criticism is bashing someone but it’s not when they can learn and build off of it
Mate, I am a kiwi and a massive fan of Scott. I thought I was going to be hugely offended by this video and be giving you a jandle slap in the comments, (look that one up), but I think it was a pretty balanced review, fair comment on concrete given the video was all you had to go by. Well done mate. And Scott Brown for prime minister! My God we need to get rid of the one we have now!
I like that you review something with out hostility, so much of youtube is driven to humiliate and get reaction. Your channel is very fair and you conduct your reviews with a lot of respect to the trade.
A little tip when pouring concrete around holes like that: cut a piece of sonotube about 8-10” long, put a slit in it and put it around the post at grade as you’re pouring the concrete. You can tape it back together or backfill it. It will contain the top of the concrete and allow, if you want, to have the concrete slightly above grade.
I have a plastic feed bucket filled with average size chunks of concrete rubble, and fire those in the bottom of the hole to keep the post off the dirt. More often than not I use 20kg bags of Rapidset for fence posts and hardly bother with bracing because it goes off like a rocket.
I use this bottom rail also, its very fast and accurate. Infact you can use a strong clamp to hold the post to the bottom rail and you dont need to brace the top in both directions (assuming you are 100% sure the post wont move)
I lay out the same way for my post. Run strangling down the center mark and drop string line. I will then rerun the string line to set post against and level side to side.
The thumbs down icon got me curious to watch this, I was really pleasantly surprised after I watched it. Constructive and easy to watch video that didn't try to get a reaction. All the best
Id say the holes were full of water when he poured perhaps being that deep hit the water table or just down to the bad weather. Aslong as he fixes the mistake id be fine with it and he probably wasnt that bothered knowing that walking up and down in that kind of condition would turn both sides into a bog! So would need raking over, some new top soil and seeding to make good again regardless of excess water spilling out.
You seem like the sort of guy I’d love to have at my place while I’m doing some work around the house. Just for a good old chat and a few cheeky brews. Loving the channel champ 💪🏼 From Australia 🇦🇺
I do fencing in Canberra Australia, must say here we definitely don’t use timber posts due to rotting, it will always be a steel post in a 600mm deep by 300mm wide concrete filled holes, same method for rails to be bolted to that post and to run the pailings high then be chopped after, but it’s most common to be doing colourbond fences here as it really isn’t much more expensive anymore to get a steel fence that’s already powder coated.
I'm so glad this guy didn't roast Scott Brown to much. The man is a great builder, a fantastic youtuber, and if you watch his chanel, you get the idea that he is a bit of a legend in New Zealand. His channel is like tv to me. I can't wait for the next episode. Which of the side characters are going to make an appearance? What crazy things is the council code going to have them doing? What will be for smoko? When is he and Jess going to get married? haha
I think it was muddy water that came up out of the fence post hole. After it dried up somewhat it looked more muddy than over spill concrete. I follow his work closely and I know he has a great relationship with his neighbors. Thanks 😊
A buddy bought like 10 plastic buckets and cut off all the bottoms. When they dig holes for concrete they put them above the hole and just press them in. Keeps any spill out of the yard.
the neighbor should expect some initial mess as the fence-build is probably for them too, ie on the boundary. not ideal when raining and you've got a concrete truck on the way.. which is why i prefer post-mix bags for smaller jobs.
Fair review, as a DIYer I don't think I'd follow this video's tips, you can tell he doesn't install many fences! However the rest of his work is incredible!
I just said above that this is his one job that I know he would have liked to have done better and tidier. I do almost identical work to these guys and they are awesome carpenters. Fair comment from you that buddy. 👍😀
Hi, it looks like the initial string line is set up to get the fence posts marked with spray cans, then the string is removed for ease of access but the start and stop pegs remain in the ground. After the post holes are dug, the string is placed back to see how lined up it was and yeah 2 were way out , and a few close enough.
Only problem is the posts are encapsulated the concrete. Therefore water that soaks into the timber will travel to the bottom of the wood post and sit, leading to damage. Also not sure why he set the pailings to height only to cut them 8 inches shorter 🤷♂️. I like Scott brown but this was a strange one.
A million ways to skin a cat and build a fence, when I was still slinging fence posts around we used concrete bags when it got wet so you can control the moisture a bit,and you would be surprised what a sheet of old plywood can do for not muddying a work site while trudging around the place
We do it alot. Costs around $250ish on a average size job around 80ish meters. Small jobs where you only have say 10 holes we'll use either a wheel barrow or a bucket on a 4in1 kanga
Ummm UnZ is not down under...its over the ditch. But yeah we have such technology as rapid set in this hemisphere. I dont know about Scott and his contacts but maybe he shared this bowl of concrete with someone else just for convenience. Weather looked poo for concrete. He is quality tradie and obviously this was one his earlier videos. DIY guys could learn plenty from his details. Good critique Joe. Positive stuff .
Hello Joe ! I like your show. We are in the process of getting quotes to redo our old fence. We will replace the would post with metal ones similar to Postmaster galvanized steel fence posts. Do you have a video where you discuss the general rule of thumb for the quantity of concrete required when setting metal posts ?
Yeah I think they made.a bit of a mess but usually they are pretty quality soni think it was maybe just a bad day type deal. The thing I didnt understand was getting a concrete truck for 10 post holes? I do most of mine with bagged concrete personally
My main issue with this video. Why on earth wouldn’t you either buy a few bags of postfix and throw them in or worst case hire a mixer for the day?! Like others have said. Scott is generally excellent at what he does so one mishap can be forgiven.
Judging by your video, I'm assuming that overall you were happy with Scott's work. I'm sure the principles of fence construction in any given environment is the same everywhere, when your Neighbour offers to build a fence then it's also serving your purpose as the dwelling next to or adjacent. Cost is sometimes split between the opposing properties, but in this case, having a qualified chippy living next door, id be surprised if he didn't split the cost of the materials only, let alone do it for free. So, regarding the mess, I don't think the Neighbour would've been phased by it.
So what was the point of setting the Pickett to heighth just to cut top. Seems like he could skipped that and just kept his half inch on the ground then cut top. Seems like a un needed step.
I watched a fence crew just eyeball everything. And the only tool I saw used was a chain saw. I told them I wouldn't ever hire them myself but more power to them making the home owner think this is normal. The home owner was a dick so he deserved it. He didn't wanna give us 10 inches out side of the fence to run a gas main. Even though we told him if we do it we will hook up a gas service to his house. He said no. Then after we already put the gas main in changed his mind. My forman told him 6 grand and we can run it. Would have been free yesterday.
My OCD went into overdrive!! Lot of wasted material and time. If the ground was that soft, dry set it and move on. No need to mix crete or wait on a pour for Christ's sake. No need for any of the bracing either. Took them 2 days on a 3hr job
Glad you thought he did a good job - other than the concrete, which was pretty embarrassing, as I like SB - sometimes I wish he explained a little better what he does & why. One day our picket fence will HAVE to be replaced, so I'll check out your example 1st! Cheers!
Scott brown isn’t a concrete guy or a fence builder, he’s a carpenter. Sure there’s overlap but I doubt he’d claim to be an expert on the perfect way to pour concrete in the rain. There might be tricks to pouring in the rain that he doesn’t know. What matters is they cleaned everything up and everyone is happy. Besides it looked like that was just water being pushed out of the hole and not concrete going everywhere. As someone who regularly watches his channel, I can say he does things right and if not he corrects it. He’s almost too much of a perfectionist at times. What I find funny is the concrete pouring was the only criticism this guy had. Everything else was either acknowledged as just different strokes or a good way to do things. Yet his thumbnail and conclusion show that he thought it was a bad job. Looks like someone’s using fake drama to get views.
That is the worst I've ever seen Scott Brown leave a site. Its usually vacuum everything up, no dust left out, extremely anal about image type of construction. Hes up to almost 300 vids now so hes clearly learned and changed his tune as to what he should be doing thats for sure
Bro we build fences year round, even in kneedeep snow, and its 1 in a 100 chance u have dirt soft enough for a drill, so we 100% shovel it. Also sliding gate foundations are typically soso 60×70×90deep. Also never wooden posts and never braces, shit just looks silly unless ur working as a 1man
Joe Everest is on the verge of Eternal UA-cam stardom. 40% because he took the time to make note of his Step Off Technique; 60% because less than two minutes in, I became convinced he is Alex Jones’ possibly baked, bearded twin and wait why do people make videos to critique other videos? Regardless, Keep up the great work, folks. All of you.
I'm a kiwi just starting our in fencing and definitely that's a heck of a mess. And I prefer to cut the posts once the palins are done to get them at exact hight
for that many posts i would have just mixed them by hand on the day they went in the ground that way on the rainy day we could put pickets and rails up.. such a sloppy concrete job i would get fired in a heartbeat for that
Hi, i am guessing he is using something like 2.2m planks and that string line is to control the top of the max plank length Then once the job is done a decision on where the max of 2 meter zone limit is and they cut the top to stay within council code Maybe they went of a certain low spot or high spot but in the 8:30 mark you can see he has continued the level from the old black fence, and the other side finished about ??? 6 inches higher than the rear fence So in hindsight he could have used a long string line from the black fence to get the initial top level
Alan, have a look at Scotts video comments, where he answers that exact question "Short answer is to get the bottom straight. They don't make palings to suit our fence height. We bought longer palings, strung it up so the bottom stayed consistent and then cut the top to the desired height"
Generally just use a 3x2 on the ground and let the pickets follow the contour and trim tops back later if your dont have heritage tops on pickets then you set to string. Scott must have had a nice level pad.
Half lap joints for every fence rail? That's just flexing his saw skills. But I didn't see him glue the half lap joint, just a single carriage bolt...so what's the point of that? I've watched Scott Brown several times, but this one left me scratching my head.
Believe it or not but this was my fence! The video doesn't show how bad the weather was, but it was bad, like, real bad! Scott told me and my neighbour that it might get a little messy and we were happy for him to proceed. He got the job done quickly and professionally even though there was an arctic weather storm sweeping up the country. The man is a legend. Fact.
I think this is a good testimony to what we all believe about Scott Brown. I’m not a fan of this style of UA-cam commentary and I’m disappointed the algorithm offered up this toxic garbage.
Can someone please nit pick this mans work? 🙄 so many armchair perfectionists on UA-cam these days. Jeez.
Thank you for your input captain hindsight.
@jamie, credit to you. Man of character. 🙏🏻
If it works for you pal then happy days.but I'd personally recommend some ready mixed cement or "post crete "as it's called here in wales. its cheaper and quick setting excellent for jobs in wet weather and all you need is a watering can,shovel and a level or string line with a weight on the end to get your level and some good old initiative. Not knockin you m8 just never seen it done with such elegance like you done it
@@aronrhys4920 we use that here in NZ too
@@Rooxie973 one place in the world I'd love to go is new Zealand. Apparently its a bit like here in southwales,.mountains and lots of sheep
Flight of the conchords are a pair of legends
Scott Brown is a legend.
@@JoeEverest I agree Scott is a legend he does great work! :) I like how with every criticism said, Scott addressed it a second later lol. Scott clearly did go back and clean up his messy concrete ;) At the end of the day he cleaned up his area and has a solid secure fence that will last a very long time, very good craftsmanship as to be expected! I am biased though as I am subscribed to Scott, I'm sure you may agree with most people he's the "Bob Ross" of carpentry- so chill! The world needs more Bob's, Ha! Have a good day Joe!
@@jtypo didnt clean the posts through
@@needaman66 He said it was getting painted to match the existing fence.
@@JoeEverest you should , you might learn something... Scott browns got a high skill set
@@JoeEverest you might just end up correcting some of his work in the future 🤣
I have seen other episodes of this job and Scott definately cleans that concrete up! He is such a professional! World class skills
Didnt clean it up for shock value 😂😂 does it at any stage look like hes looking for shock and awe?
As a profession I would never of let a mess like that happen
@@aronrhys4920 Don't work in the rain huh"
I would suggest that, the over-pour you're seeing is actually just excess water that was in the holes that is being hydraulically pushed out as the concrete goes in. It's a little messy, but pretty harmless to the mud patch that it's spilling on to.
what about the concrete going nearly a foot up the posts in some spots? Scott might of clean it off camera but the initial pour was messy, can't deny that...
Having watched most of Scott browns videos I can tell you that this is the one video he has posted where their work isn't a hundred percent and everyone has one job they would have liked to done better and tidier. Him and pareau are actually darn good carpenters. This fencing job was a bit of a mess though. Fair play for reacting to it in the honest and fair way that you have done. 👍😀
Agree 👍 Also, Joe, I like that you give good feedback where it's due too, so do check out Scott's other work 👍
Scott Brown is a treasure.
The bottom rail was to hold the post up a bit from the bottom of the hole so concrete went all the way around to encapsulate it.
I usually just throw a little gravel in the bottom personally
@@stich1960 but I imagine water can still pool in the gravel up to the post, depending on local weather and soil? By making a whole concrete 'sock' it's basically waterproof all the way down right?
@@Juttutin I gusse it would really depend where your at wether that would be good. Concrete is not really waterproof. I have seen post rotten inside the concrete (and nowhere else) when encased because there was alot of water soaked up by the post and nowhere for it to go. Round here it's really dry so post rot is usually is low on the list unless someone royally messed up. But now I am curious @Joe Everest
@@stich1960 concrete is porous, but at least it doesn't contain organic matter which accelerates decay
Concrete is not waterproof. It wicks water. So it doesn’t make a difference if it’s under or not.
Got any videos of your work ?
Fence came out looking good. I feel he went the long way around to get there with the bracing and the concrete cleanup but all the matters is final product and in that I don’t see any issues
Shout out to Scott. Been following for years. Pretty down to earth kind of guy
Thanks for watching!
Haha Concrete?? That overflow was displaced water from the holes.
my thought is with all that water in the holes and ground water was that new concrete compromised ? I think yes terribly.
@@dougschmidt5132 No it doesn’t get a chance to mix. It displaces pretty well instantly when the concrete is dropped in. Once in place, as concrete hardens, the presence of water actually makes concrete stronger.
@@DiscoFang Thats a big "maybe". I would not take that chance on my job. I would wait for no rain and pump out the post holes. I think all my customers would prefer that anyway.
@@dougschmidt5132 That’s an odd attitude & conclusion. Just because you don’t know or understand concrete doesn’t make it a maybe. It’s how concrete behaves.
@@DiscoFang been in construction for over 40 years and that is a practice I would truly avoid. Too many variables in construction and compromised concrete is one that I don't need to worry about. Not on my watch, just sayin.
You should see his videos on internal work, the guy is a clean freak almost to the point of carrying a vacuum cleaner around in his back pocket.
You must have edited out the smoko break, pie time.
To be fair to the legend and thoroughly decent bloke that is Scott Brown he put his hands up straight away and said he'd ballsed up. Owned it and learnt from it. A lesser fella would never have uploaded the vid in the first place.
exactly
I did a job like that and it looks like the concrete is doing everywhere but it’s just the water changing colour from the concrete working in swamps is so much fun
I watched all his videos, they are a great team, they are very good at what they do.The concrete pour was the weather's fault, it happens sometimes on a construction site to get a bit messy because of the weather. When it dries out, it will look great with a bit of a cleanup.
Gotta go to store and buy a sump pump and pum it before u pour
Wet vac. for me when it happens but if you know there is rain coming you should try to give the concrete a little dry, setting time before you pour so a few hours before a reason would be better. He said he was trying to get the concrete there sooner so he was obviously trying to beat the rain but unless this is his only job you could have saved that for a more dry day
Just got done watching Scott Brown’s new video about his kitchen remodel
Great carpenter
Very easy to judge someone from your seat.
Agreed, just make his own video and I'll watch both videos then make my mind up... they'll be having a boxing match next 😒
To be fair, out of the 290 videos of his that I've watched, this is the only time his work has been anything other than exemplary, and I'm happy to forgive him for that. I could and do watch his channel all day, a true craftsman
His recent video about the attic storage proved that he doesn't know much about trusses. He referred to the truss web as "a vertical part of the truss"
Honesty is the best policy as a carpenter myself been doing it for 6 years from framing houses to building fences Mother Nature has her effect on everything but so does experience level,quality of lumber and the terrain so in all honesty the concrete at the bottom was an eye sore but just like the fence alittle elbow grease and it’ll clean up the bracing was a good idea for allowing the concrete to encase the post properly but in reality a 3 most important factors in a fence is if it’s level and square if it’s structurally sound and and if it look good and I’ll agree with both of them the lap joints are a nice touch and it makes the fence just alittle more stable but realistically we in the construction business also not only deal with bad weather we also deal with job deadlines and you never know it may have been a job that had to get done before landscaping work started or so on and so forth but keep up the good work you guys and thanks for being critical some people think constructive criticism is bashing someone but it’s not when they can learn and build off of it
Mate, I am a kiwi and a massive fan of Scott. I thought I was going to be hugely offended by this video and be giving you a jandle slap in the comments, (look that one up), but I think it was a pretty balanced review, fair comment on concrete given the video was all you had to go by. Well done mate. And Scott Brown for prime minister! My God we need to get rid of the one we have now!
I really appreciate the fair comment, thanks for watching!
Scott brown is one of the tops skilled carpenters .
That’s a proper fence built by a proper joiner.
I like that you review something with out hostility, so much of youtube is driven to humiliate and get reaction. Your channel is very fair and you conduct your reviews with a lot of respect to the trade.
A little tip when pouring concrete around holes like that: cut a piece of sonotube about 8-10” long, put a slit in it and put it around the post at grade as you’re pouring the concrete. You can tape it back together or backfill it. It will contain the top of the concrete and allow, if you want, to have the concrete slightly above grade.
Scott Brown is a legend and makes quality content. Leave him alone.
Calm down. All he criticised was the concrete pour being messy, which it clearly was! Even Scott said himself in the video...
I'm 99% certain that the bottom brace when positioning the posts is to hold them off the ground so the concrete flows underneath.
I don’t think they packed the bottom of the post with dirt so they had to have something holding the post straight.
@@Jonathan-fx5pr you concrete them in bro if you pack it with dirt concrete can’t get there. Brace the too and it holds it plumb
I have a plastic feed bucket filled with average size chunks of concrete rubble, and fire those in the bottom of the hole to keep the post off the dirt. More often than not I use 20kg bags of Rapidset for fence posts and hardly bother with bracing because it goes off like a rocket.
Cracking job Scott
I use this bottom rail also, its very fast and accurate. Infact you can use a strong clamp to hold the post to the bottom rail and you dont need to brace the top in both directions (assuming you are 100% sure the post wont move)
If he cleaned up the mess this fence is fine. So is your review of it! He did a nice job!
Agreed, I appreciate the feedback!
I lay out the same way for my post. Run strangling down the center mark and drop string line. I will then rerun the string line to set post against and level side to side.
The thumbs down icon got me curious to watch this, I was really pleasantly surprised after I watched it. Constructive and easy to watch video that didn't try to get a reaction.
All the best
Id say the holes were full of water when he poured perhaps being that deep hit the water table or just down to the bad weather. Aslong as he fixes the mistake id be fine with it and he probably wasnt that bothered knowing that walking up and down in that kind of condition would turn both sides into a bog! So would need raking over, some new top soil and seeding to make good again regardless of excess water spilling out.
You seem like the sort of guy I’d love to have at my place while I’m doing some work around the house. Just for a good old chat and a few cheeky brews. Loving the channel champ 💪🏼 From Australia 🇦🇺
@@JoeEverest 👌🏼
I do fencing in Canberra Australia, must say here we definitely don’t use timber posts due to rotting, it will always be a steel post in a 600mm deep by 300mm wide concrete filled holes, same method for rails to be bolted to that post and to run the pailings high then be chopped after, but it’s most common to be doing colourbond fences here as it really isn’t much more expensive anymore to get a steel fence that’s already powder coated.
I'm so glad this guy didn't roast Scott Brown to much. The man is a great builder, a fantastic youtuber, and if you watch his chanel, you get the idea that he is a bit of a legend in New Zealand. His channel is like tv to me. I can't wait for the next episode. Which of the side characters are going to make an appearance? What crazy things is the council code going to have them doing? What will be for smoko? When is he and Jess going to get married? haha
Seems like a good guy!
wouldnt call him a legend... Richie mccaw is a legend lol
Where I am from, we dont work when its pouring rain. Too much water can weaken the concrete.
Great point, makes sense!
I think it was muddy water that came up out of the fence post hole. After it dried up somewhat it looked more muddy than over spill concrete. I follow his work closely and I know he has a great relationship with his neighbors. Thanks 😊
A buddy bought like 10 plastic buckets and cut off all the bottoms. When they dig holes for concrete they put them above the hole and just press them in. Keeps any spill out of the yard.
I love it, I appreciate you passing on that tip!
the neighbor should expect some initial mess as the fence-build is probably for them too, ie on the boundary. not ideal when raining and you've got a concrete truck on the way.. which is why i prefer post-mix bags for smaller jobs.
On this one I just wanted to cry when i saw all that concrete.....
My blood pressure was elevated watching this!
Fair review, as a DIYer I don't think I'd follow this video's tips, you can tell he doesn't install many fences! However the rest of his work is incredible!
I just said above that this is his one job that I know he would have liked to have done better and tidier. I do almost identical work to these guys and they are awesome carpenters.
Fair comment from you that buddy. 👍😀
@@garethheathcote4988 it's my favourite UA-cam channel, can't beat guys that enjoy their profession and carry it out to a high standard!
It's NZ, a disaster for any building in winter. Scott is a champ.
Hi, it looks like the initial string line is set up to get the fence posts marked with spray cans, then the string is removed for ease of access but the start and stop pegs remain in the ground.
After the post holes are dug, the string is placed back to see how lined up it was and yeah 2 were way out , and a few close enough.
Scoot Brow is a legend man
Scott brown is the bro but the real legend is the mitre 10 guy he’s been around for yeeeeeeears
While the slant on top of the post is a good idea would it not be better to slant it away from the fence?
For the small number of posts there are it’d seem like it’d be easier and less messy to just buy a few 80lb bags of pre packaged concrete.
Only problem is the posts are encapsulated the concrete. Therefore water that soaks into the timber will travel to the bottom of the wood post and sit, leading to damage. Also not sure why he set the pailings to height only to cut them 8 inches shorter 🤷♂️. I like Scott brown but this was a strange one.
he would have clean all that up he is a good operator scot brown does cool videos.
I thought he was laying a patio with that fence.
You need to find another vocation!
Thanks for the input, appreciate you watching!
A million ways to skin a cat and build a fence, when I was still slinging fence posts around we used concrete bags when it got wet so you can control the moisture a bit,and you would be surprised what a sheet of old plywood can do for not muddying a work site while trudging around the place
Great review. It was very interesting to watch you critique the great Scott Brown.
You seem like a decent bloke.
Concrete truck for fence posts??? I've never seen that before.
We do it alot. Costs around $250ish on a average size job around 80ish meters. Small jobs where you only have say 10 holes we'll use either a wheel barrow or a bucket on a 4in1 kanga
Always enjoy learning from you and hearing what you have to say, Joe. Great video.
@@JoeEverest You are very welcome! I am glad to hear :)
Lol Joe you’re always trying to be nice. But I could just sense your pain watching this install! 😂
No postcrete bags down under huh
Ummm UnZ is not down under...its over the ditch. But yeah we have such technology as rapid set in this hemisphere. I dont know about Scott and his contacts but maybe he shared this bowl of concrete with someone else just for convenience. Weather looked poo for concrete. He is quality tradie and obviously this was one his earlier videos. DIY guys could learn plenty from his details.
Good critique Joe. Positive stuff .
What would you have done differently with the concrete in those conditions?
Use a stiffer mix.
@@robertodebeers2551 It was a relatively stiff mix. All that water was just displaced from the holes. That ponding and runoff was not concrete.
A cement truck for such a small amount seamed a bit over kill
If you were working on that kind of weather what you can do? Bro, we are living in New Zealand.
What a performance D&J would of had that run done in a few hours , that’s just ridiculous
Agreed, thanks for watching!
Hello Joe ! I like your show. We are in the process of getting quotes to redo our old fence. We will replace the would post with metal ones similar to Postmaster galvanized steel fence posts. Do you have a video where you discuss the general rule of thumb for the quantity of concrete required when setting metal posts ?
ASTM standards are a 30” deep hole that 8” in diameter. This size hole would require around 120 pounds of concrete to fill completely.
Yeah I think they made.a bit of a mess but usually they are pretty quality soni think it was maybe just a bad day type deal. The thing I didnt understand was getting a concrete truck for 10 post holes? I do most of mine with bagged concrete personally
My main issue with this video. Why on earth wouldn’t you either buy a few bags of postfix and throw them in or worst case hire a mixer for the day?! Like others have said. Scott is generally excellent at what he does so one mishap can be forgiven.
Judging by your video, I'm assuming that overall you were happy with Scott's work. I'm sure the principles of fence construction in any given environment is the same everywhere, when your Neighbour offers to build a fence then it's also serving your purpose as the dwelling next to or adjacent. Cost is sometimes split between the opposing properties, but in this case, having a qualified chippy living next door, id be surprised if he didn't split the cost of the materials only, let alone do it for free. So, regarding the mess, I don't think the Neighbour would've been phased by it.
So what was the point of setting the Pickett to heighth just to cut top. Seems like he could skipped that and just kept his half inch on the ground then cut top. Seems like a un needed step.
I had to watch this as I watch Scott brown and love what he does. But he is right that was a mess... No matter the weather
Show us your method
I watched a fence crew just eyeball everything. And the only tool I saw used was a chain saw. I told them I wouldn't ever hire them myself but more power to them making the home owner think this is normal. The home owner was a dick so he deserved it. He didn't wanna give us 10 inches out side of the fence to run a gas main. Even though we told him if we do it we will hook up a gas service to his house. He said no. Then after we already put the gas main in changed his mind. My forman told him 6 grand and we can run it. Would have been free yesterday.
As a fellow Kiwi...I would have used alot more concrete. Don't like leaning posts!
No way to plant at base with all that concrete mess.
My OCD went into overdrive!! Lot of wasted material and time. If the ground was that soft, dry set it and move on. No need to mix crete or wait on a pour for Christ's sake. No need for any of the bracing either. Took them 2 days on a 3hr job
Glad you thought he did a good job - other than the concrete, which was pretty embarrassing, as I like SB - sometimes I wish he explained a little better what he does & why. One day our picket fence will HAVE to be replaced, so I'll check out your example 1st! Cheers!
I also like overlapping joints, hehheheh!
Scott brown isn’t a concrete guy or a fence builder, he’s a carpenter. Sure there’s overlap but I doubt he’d claim to be an expert on the perfect way to pour concrete in the rain. There might be tricks to pouring in the rain that he doesn’t know. What matters is they cleaned everything up and everyone is happy. Besides it looked like that was just water being pushed out of the hole and not concrete going everywhere. As someone who regularly watches his channel, I can say he does things right and if not he corrects it. He’s almost too much of a perfectionist at times. What I find funny is the concrete pouring was the only criticism this guy had. Everything else was either acknowledged as just different strokes or a good way to do things. Yet his thumbnail and conclusion show that he thought it was a bad job. Looks like someone’s using fake drama to get views.
That is the worst I've ever seen Scott Brown leave a site. Its usually vacuum everything up, no dust left out, extremely anal about image type of construction. Hes up to almost 300 vids now so hes clearly learned and changed his tune as to what he should be doing thats for sure
Easiest job in the world is picking fault with other people’s work
Thanks for the feedback!
The end product didn’t look bad at all, not sure how he is making money on a three day build for a run that small. Keep it up Joe.
That concrete was a mess, i would have cleaned off the posts and used a board to keep concrete in the hole . Im surprised he even post that vid
Wow! All that extra work and still didn’t set them to height?! This should be called how to make fencing as tough as possible 😲
When the guy in the comments section decides to start a youtube channel.....
You should rename your channel "Joe Everest - Timber King"
wtf do they need a concrete truck lol
Ohhh the cring moment when it comes to the control of the concrete wow .
cry about it, bro it isnt that big of a deal when scott spills a little, look at how solid he built that, dont hate.
No hate, just an interesting observation at what clients will tolerate in different regions.
The reason why they made a mess...
Neighbors don't like each other. They paid Scott 35% more just to make a mess
😂
Bro we build fences year round, even in kneedeep snow, and its 1 in a 100 chance u have dirt soft enough for a drill, so we 100% shovel it. Also sliding gate foundations are typically soso 60×70×90deep. Also never wooden posts and never braces, shit just looks silly unless ur working as a 1man
Where can I see these great fences without braces?
@@kavachiking6751 just use C20/25 S1 or S2 and u dont need braces, just water it when ur done...
Clearly you have zero clues about CCA treated timber.
Don’t understand why he needed a concrete truck for that lol knock it up your self and there would be no mess
Agreed, thanks for watching!
Joe Everest is on the verge of Eternal UA-cam stardom. 40% because he took the time to make note of his Step Off Technique; 60% because less than two minutes in, I became convinced he is Alex Jones’ possibly baked, bearded twin and wait why do people make videos to critique other videos? Regardless, Keep up the great work, folks. All of you.
I'm a kiwi just starting our in fencing and definitely that's a heck of a mess. And I prefer to cut the posts once the palins are done to get them at exact hight
Why not just use bags of concrete?
TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST T BUILD A FEMCE. MY FIRST FENCE WAS JUST OFF YOU TUBE VIDEOS. BECAME CONSIDERED SUPERIOR IN THE AREA. ITS THAT SIMPLE
for that many posts i would have just mixed them by hand on the day they went in the ground that way on the rainy day we could put pickets and rails up.. such a sloppy concrete job i would get fired in a heartbeat for that
This GUY on THIS CHANNEL SEEMS TO ALWAYS STATE THE OBVIOUS IN ALL HIS VIDEOS. IT DOESNT
Yep I agree, it's a mess. He's a great Carpenter, but bloody hell he's a messy fence builder lol.
Finally someone that's not a d*** rider and can just say what it is.
It’s not level it’s plumb,
I appreciate the correction, thanks for watching!
@@JoeEverest not you mate the guy try here calling a legend in the comments
Been a fence contractor 30 years the only thing good about these guys was their sthil auger
HUM, not sure why he was setting the pickets to a string (7:36) if he was just going to cut the tops off anyway. ????
They're all the same length. Doing it like that ensures constant height off the ground.
Hi, i am guessing he is using something like 2.2m planks and that string line is to control the top of the max plank length
Then once the job is done a decision on where the max of 2 meter zone limit is and they cut the top to stay within council code
Maybe they went of a certain low spot or high spot but in the 8:30 mark you can see he has continued the level from the old black fence, and the other side finished about ??? 6 inches higher than the rear fence
So in hindsight he could have used a long string line from the black fence to get the initial top level
Alan, have a look at Scotts video comments, where he answers that exact question "Short answer is to get the bottom straight. They don't make palings to suit our fence height. We bought longer palings, strung it up so the bottom stayed consistent and then cut the top to the desired height"
Generally just use a 3x2 on the ground and let the pickets follow the contour and trim tops back later if your dont have heritage tops on pickets then you set to string. Scott must have had a nice level pad.
Half lap joints for every fence rail? That's just flexing his saw skills. But I didn't see him glue the half lap joint, just a single carriage bolt...so what's the point of that? I've watched Scott Brown several times, but this one left me scratching my head.
GPZ.Jeffrey - Half lap joints are neater, give a nice line all the way through, no need for glue as the carriage bolt isnt moving
I have seen mistakes happen in the construction industry but wow. I've never seen someone so careless with concrete.
Right. I just watched a horror movie.