They are too negative and hate on the players too much. It’s exhausting. Same thing with Skip. At a certain point your past success cant over shadow the negativity for me. NFL commentators and former players are always positive and marketing the game/players. Just a better vibe and atmosphere
@@SojiFro_0 can’t replace Barkley and Shaq, though. They’re NBA royalty man. Just look at the NBA Finals. That was the worst commentary I ever heard going back 30 years I’ve been watching the Finals. Sometimes you don’t know what you have until it’s gone, and next thing you know we have to listen to Gilbert Arenas talk nonsense on Amazon.
Yes, the best thing they had --if you enjoy seeing famous Black people embarrass their own Race --in trying to stay relevant. Barkley and Shaq were despicable!
They have one more season left. Nothing stopping other networks from hiring them (Ernie has often worked for different networks at same time) if they want. Chuck said he's retiring after the end of 2024-25 Inside NBA, that's the same problem that existed before the sale.
After ESPN got rid of the Mark Jackson/Van Gundy announcing goat team, Inside the NBA was all we had left to enjoy. I’m just glad Serie A renewed their deal with paramount. The TNT and NBA negotiations are a prime example of narcissistic suits ruining a good thing.
NBA don’t care about the fans anymore…have yall scene the All Star games these last few years??? Glad I was around to see the 90s through the early 2000s.
The league is at fault that the players put no effort? 😂 The Nhl game is even worse. The NFL CANCELLED their all star game because no one tried or bothered playing.. It's not an NBA problem when three leagues have that problem and biggest league just gave up on all-star game.
Bingo ….Charles said he’s retiring anyway after this year ….Charles is the show people watch mostly for him …so might as well look to the future 🤷🏿♂️ past is over
ESPN broadcast team sucks. I usually don't watch their pre game post game shows and I hate that they get full coverage of nba finals. Local broadcast and nbatv coverage is better.
@@OscarUnratedListen to the radio instead. BTW Sarah IMO is sexy regardless. Stop saying she sucks. I just saw a pic of hers and she's pretty. Thanks, dude.
Shaq, Chuck, Kenny and Ernie are the only reason I watch TNT in the first place lol. The NBA is in trouble if they ever lose that China Overlord money.
Yeah, just like American corporations need Chinese production to make money. Everything is made there AND it's the biggest market. The world used to kiss American ass for a long time because of money, now that China is a huge economic power it's normal that there is a shift. And the butthurt is amazing.
Inside the NBA isn't the problem. TNT is the problem. Very few young NBA fans subscribe to Cable TV. The show is awesome, the vehicle its on to get to fans is old and outdated. UA-cam would be a better way to get young NBA fans watch games than expecting them to subscribe to Cable TV.
@@bacardim390 I guess that’s the missing point then. I’m 35 and when I hear someone say “the young” I think they’re talking about teenagers and high schoolers. The crowd that uses their parents subscriptions and living off their parents. So I definitely could be wrong.
So some people watch The TNT pre/post game and the halftime show but not actually any games. No wonder neither the Sports media talking heads nor the FANS, really know that much anymore about basketball.
That’s has nun to do wit it people still watch the games and go listen to mfs talk about it on espn next day difference is inside the nba is gonna give their real opinion not sugarcoat it cause they might want pg on the pod or sum like a lot these guys giving back rubs now
@@keemooo243That is their appeal to me. They tell it like it is and are funny.. they don't care if the current players like them or not. I feel like they are the last preserves of the golden age of basketball too. Irreplaceable! Now everything will be watered down opinion and shock takes 🙄🙄🙄
Why is this so surprising? What has Adam Silver done besides constantly slapping fans in the face? Legacy of a spineless walking doormat for players.. smh
@@daa_97if you think you’ve hurt their pockets by not watching you’re even dumber than you sound 😂. NBA is reeling in money hand over fist. So you’re accomplishing nothing with whatever idiotic crusade you’re on by “not putting money in their pockets” 🤡. Now, having a constructive conversation about the NBA CAN accomplish something because if the right people in power hear this type of conversation it’s conceivable for change to happen. I’m glad not everyone has your small-minded vision which leaves no room for progress of any kind and is honestly just an intellectually lazy, pessimistic, hide-under-a-rock type strategy where nothing will ever get done.
@TEExTIMEPODCAST I don't think the owner of TNT should of said that out loud. But there is nothing wrong with believing what he said. TNT showed their loyalty by matching the other offers. So the NBA was that but hurt over that comment?
@@LuisRojas-mz2mg Amazon and NBC is not paying more so why should they? NBA quickly accepted their offer. Why does TNT have to kiss their hand? This is supposed to be a partnership .
@@lcmonty7084 partners don't denigrate other partners, just saying. this is essentially a bidding war now. you want to retain the rights to games? okay, show me how much you want it.
It’s not the NBA fault gang. TNT owner said they can survive without the NBA. TNT had MONTHS to match Amazon and they didn’t . Then decides to Match it when it’s too late. Not the nba fault . Plus EVERYONe Has Amazon prime account
NBC is in the new deal, but the regional sports networks were removed from Hulu after the big brand broke up when Disney got FOX, NBC got SKY, and Sinclair got the regional sports networks.
The reason a lot of sports leagues' popularity has declined in proportion to NFL is going to exclusive or obscure networks chasing cash, which creates a disincentive and barrier to entry to getting new fans. NFL granted is about to step on same grenade, but these sports leagues complaining about low attention need to make their sports more accessible to get more new fans to care.
I mean NFL already step into that path. It’s going to get worst and worst to just watch your local team play when network like Amazon prime, Netflix, and UA-cam can just out bit where now it’s going to be hard to just watch NFL with a TV antenna.
I agree wholeheartedly, but they don't care as long as these companies continue to throw billions at them. They're combating dwindling viewership by partnering with companies like Amazon. They can beat that by being more global since basketball is a global sport. It still doesn't improve their overall product, but that's not their main goal.
Which is exactly what the NBA is doing. Way more people already pay for and have Amazon Prime…and less and less people are shelling out $90+ per month for a worthless cable package. This is a smart move by the NBA.
@talldreamyopposum say you're white without saying you're white. (He's like, how did he know?) I hate to break the news, but the NFL is over half black too.
All I know is this this damn sure wouldn't happen during the Air Jordan era. Jordan had little old white ladies watching basketball. The money has gone up but the ratings are not like they used to be in the 90s and the global effect of the NBA isn't the same as the 90s either.
@@charlesduncanjr1066 exactly and it wasn't because Chicago was just such a great City that everybody wants to see a channel from that City it was because of MJ.
I’m not watching any NFL or NBA games on any streaming service of any kind. It’s sickening how greedy these sports leagues have become. I’ll catch the highlights on sports center.
@@cmurderwilliams26Not for me. I'm set in my ways. I see nothing wrong with cable. If you subscribe to all the streaming services, it probably costs more than cable anyway.
@@cmurderwilliams26 Streaming is another version of cable but worst. Instead of one extremely high bill. You have increasing streaming fees. Spread among several different streaming services that you have to keep up with. The future? More like the same thing repackaged. To make people feel like they have more control of television programming. But you actually don’t.
Its really the fault of WB Discovery CEO... NBA just retaliated. Inside the NBA is great but its not also forever. In 11 years, we never know what happens to the team of Inside the NBA
inside the nba on TNT !! had no filter bruh that’s why I loved the show !! shaqtin gone fishin running to the board nd the other crazy stuff they do on the show was worth watching !!!
TNT would be smart to offer Ej, Kenny, Shaq and Chuck a time slot of 8pm - 12am on Thursdays where they just sit around and comment about games going on around the league. Like the Manning Cast for MNF. They can talk about basketball happenings throughout the week. I’m not tuning into Amazon to watch Draymond and other boring people. And I don’t care about national games unless it involves my favorite team.
Amazon Prime has over 200 million subscribers worldwide. Even if there are no new subscribers, that's still 200 million people who will have access to watch NBA games (assuming they are available to all Prime members). That's significant leverage Amazon can use because that's 200 million worldwide, not just in the US. And there are millions of people who can't even watch NBA games right now who will suddenly have access to games. Amazon doesn't have to offer anything that even comes close to the production or entertainment of Inside the NBA. They only averaged about 1-2 million viewers anyway. I don't like the decision at all, but I understand why the NBA did it, just as they stuck with terrible ESPN.
@atlien1988 Ya fair point but I can tell you right now I'm not going out of my way on a Wednesday night to go on Amazon prime to watch a regular season nba game where the starters are resting and not even trying. So I would say less Americans will watch it but more non Americans will watch it.
The narratives you guys are on,tell me which league doesn't experience injuries to their top players also tell me which league where the players tell their teams they don't feel like playing...teams rest players on the advice of their medical staff,happens in every league even the almighty NFL
Outside of following my favorite team, the only reason i ever watched other games was the Inside the NBA crew....the real crew, not the bench squad. I stopped watching games on espn after they got rid of Mark Jackson and crew. I guess I'll be down to warching nothing but my team after next season.
Charles kept it real..he would talk about the nba turning into wwe..he spoke out on how they talk about the lakers everyday and they are barely a play-in team. I will miss them
TNT - is dead, the minute inside NBA gets tossed. I can’t remember the last time I tuned in to TNT to watch a show or movie, this is a travesty I remember when it first started when I was in high school 😢
NBA didn't take it away, one suit took it away and it wasn't Silver. This is one person's fault. The money isn't even. Amazon paid for 3 years, WBD was doing a line of credit, those are not the same thing.
The NBA clearly doesn't want TNT covering the games anymore and sees the potential Amazon Prime subscribers as more beneficial than what Inside the NBA can provide. NBA viewership in America on linear TV is dwindling, so they can combat that by offering more of their games to one of the biggest subscription platforms available. Forget the fans. They just want the money, even if it destroys the sport, which is why viewership was down. Look at the most recent All-Star game as an example.
A couple things: first, the Ernie said he wasn’t going to work for any other network. Then the rest of the crew said that if Ernie isn’t going then they’re not going.
@joshuainadagbo4771 they don't care as long as they are generating billions. Look up the revenue that they made last year and see if no one is watching and buying merchandise.
The NBA didn't take it away. Make no mistake about it...matching the offer doesn't make up for the lack of infrastructure and vision for the product that Turner has failed to provide. Blame Turner for not taking it seriously and planning things out for this day that everyone knew was coming.
Y’all mad at the NBA for calling TNTs bluff? TNT was betting the fan criticism would affect the NBAs decision and it didn’t work. They gambled when they didn’t have to and lost.
I think it's smart actually. Barkley and crew is going to retire soon anyway, even if they got the contract. Without Charles, the show wouldn't be that good. Why not go digital and try a new direction? I am a prime subscriber, so I am all for it lol
So it’s the NBA fault that TNT didn’t negotiate in appropriate time to evade this entire scenario? If a house is available for sale and you decide you’ll go get it at an auction and someone offers better than you at auction we should blame the seller?
I imagine the NBA got tired of Shaq and Barkley crapping on the product. They have a contractual deal to broadcast and promote the league, but they literally don't watch the games they're slated to cover, or rant about how things were in the 90s and 2000s, call everyone bums and actually tell fans not to watch games. Not to mention purposely butchering the international players' names, insulting stars during interviews and they best analysis they can come up with is that everyone is a bum or idiot, "Google me Chuck", "So and so is a damn moron", or barkley is legit sleeping. With the amount of money domestically and internationally the league is pulling in, Silver doesn't want that. That's not what the owners, commissioner and PA agreed to.
All things, good or bad, must and will come to an end at some point. I enjoy Inside the NBA as much as anyone, but the truth is that NBA itself as a product has been declining for a long time. Players are overpaid, viewership is declining, marquee teams turning into farces (the LA Lakers don't even exist any longer since last month--it's now the LA Lebrons (same initials, though)), and the style of play makes it unwatchable much of the time (shooting 3s all the time, no defense). The final straw may be if the Dream Team (maybe they're not calling them that anymore, but it's basically still an all-star team) loses (again) to lowly teams in the Olympics, exposing all of the issues listed above. South Sudan could be just the prescursor.
I wonder how many subscribers Max has just from people who are there for NBA games? I know it was the only reason I ever subscribed. And only during the Finals. Having NBA on Amazon and NBC will be a lot more accessible. NBC is OTA. And I already pay for prime. So it will be nice to save the $10/month
Literally canceled my Direct TV after 10 years. Told my wife Inside the NBA was the only reason I held onto cable. If I want sports, I joined FuboTV. Always in my heart Earnie, Chuck, Kenny, Shaq
Some key points yall didn’t mention was that TNT could never match the global reach, advertising commitments, up front cash & access to streaming that Amazon Prime offers. Doesn’t mean I’m pleased about the decision either but with Chuck & Shaq both committing to retiring post next year the dye may have already been cast. WBD/TNT certainly knew this. My guess is this “matching” offer was just a head fake to satiate some stockholders.
I enjoy "Inside the NBA" more than I usually enjoy....the games which they're discussing. It can't just be me.
people need to get over it! Inside the NBA was not even that funny with their awkward jokes and stale banter. Time for something new and thats ok.
@@chrisscott532 fa🐐
I’ll watch them WAY more than I watch regular season games
@@chrisscott532 Yeah like ESPN is any better lol. FOH
Definitely not just you. Hell the players either sandbag or load manage all regular season anyway
Inside the NBA is literally a fabric of the NBA culture. There’s literally no equivalent with any other sport.
Right? I've been watching the NBA on TNT/Inside the NBA since TNT got the license in 1989-90, when I was a high school junior.
The only thing close to inside the nba is college gameday. And they got rid of inside the nba… for what? Idiots I swear.
They are too negative and hate on the players too much. It’s exhausting. Same thing with Skip. At a certain point your past success cant over shadow the negativity for me. NFL commentators and former players are always positive and marketing the game/players. Just a better vibe and atmosphere
Great thing about old fabric…it can easily be replaced.
@@SojiFro_0 can’t replace Barkley and Shaq, though. They’re NBA royalty man. Just look at the NBA Finals. That was the worst commentary I ever heard going back 30 years I’ve been watching the Finals. Sometimes you don’t know what you have until it’s gone, and next thing you know we have to listen to Gilbert Arenas talk nonsense on Amazon.
NBA regular season isn’t good enough to pay for a subscription lol
I agree
facts
Amazon Prime per month: $14.99
Average cable package per month: $90+
@@scarletspider1240 I watch the boys and use Amazon a lot so I got it already lol but if I didn’t have it. The NBA season isn’t moving me
Not today's NBA..I rather pay the 14.99 for baseball hockey NFL..
I cannot believe they got rid of that show. That show was the best thing they had.
Actually, TNT might take this to court.
Yes, the best thing they had --if you enjoy seeing famous Black people embarrass their own Race --in trying to stay relevant.
Barkley and Shaq were despicable!
They have one more season left.
Nothing stopping other networks from hiring them (Ernie has often worked for different networks at same time) if they want. Chuck said he's retiring after the end of 2024-25 Inside NBA, that's the same problem that existed before the sale.
@@vladaErnie is 70 years old. Start a news show with a new host.
@@vlada they already took this to court.
Inside the NBA on TNT was lowkey the only thing worth watching.
The only thing on TNT yeah😂
@@jzl7965better than the games
It was awful. Good riddance to it.
people need to get over it! Inside the NBA was not even that funny with their awkward jokes and stale banter. Time for something new and thats ok.
@@chrisscott532 go finish off your drugs
After ESPN got rid of the Mark Jackson/Van Gundy announcing goat team, Inside the NBA was all we had left to enjoy. I’m just glad Serie A renewed their deal with paramount. The TNT and NBA negotiations are a prime example of narcissistic suits ruining a good thing.
You see how bad the finals were
History of repeating itself. Look at the fall of WCW many heads like right now having a say.
No, they’re just following the people. Cancel your Amazon subscription if you care about TNT 😂😂
@@pearsonw3 This is on the NBA executives and the corporate suits at TNT….
@@jeanpaul7223what does that have to do with tnt they don’t air the finals and im from Boston the finals was lit
agree! thanks a lot adam sliver!
Im 30 "Inside the NBA" is my last nostalgic memory of NBA basketball. I know this a big blow to huge basketball fans.. 😢
NBA has turned into corporate greed
Which company isn’t about greed? It’s always about money
Welcome to America
You thought they was in it for friendship before?
Lol you funny and dumb
They've always been that way since 1947
NBA don’t care about the fans anymore…have yall scene the All Star games these last few years??? Glad I was around to see the 90s through the early 2000s.
The league is at fault that the players put no effort? 😂
The Nhl game is even worse.
The NFL CANCELLED their all star game because no one tried or bothered playing..
It's not an NBA problem when three leagues have that problem and biggest league just gave up on all-star game.
@vlada no one cares about nhl anymore
@@vladaStop making fun of them.
@@vladaBTW the NHL is still a great game so please know your role and shut your mouth to quote Dwayne Johnson.
Thanks, dude.
As the O'Jays once said: MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY. 💰 🤑 🪙
The NBA just doesn't want to sell it's product to old school fans anymore. They're moving on from their base.
Bingo ….Charles said he’s retiring anyway after this year ….Charles is the show people watch mostly for him …so might as well look to the future 🤷🏿♂️ past is over
@@korypeoples3497shrewd takes from both of yall. Sadly, I must admit that I agree.
They've been doing that for years.
They don't even play basketball anymore. They play this hybrid of street ball and basketball.
Why would they? All they do is talk bad about this generation because they are stuck in the 80s.
Adam silver the worst commissioner of all time
The 1970s NBA had the worst commissioner, the NBA almost tabked because of the terrible leadership, drug use, and image
Adam Silver don’t own no dam tv station
💯
Not according to the investors. Man is bringing in billions.
Thanks,it needs to be said more.
ESPN broadcast team sucks. I usually don't watch their pre game post game shows and I hate that they get full coverage of nba finals. Local broadcast and nbatv coverage is better.
I loved Mark Jackson and Van Gundy, but ESPN released them.
@@cedriclloyd5571 they were great
Not my Nets local broadcast. I hate hearing Sarah Kustok 🤮
@@OscarUnratedListen to the radio instead. BTW Sarah IMO is sexy regardless. Stop saying she sucks. I just saw a pic of hers and she's pretty.
Thanks, dude.
@@eugenereeves418Bob Iger has ruined ESPN.
Shaq, Chuck, Kenny and Ernie are the only reason I watch TNT in the first place lol. The NBA is in trouble if they ever lose that China Overlord money.
hopefully Amazon buys them out and the people that work in the studio.
It’s TNT’s boss’s fault. Never forget that
The best ratings the NBA had was without TNT
Yeah, just like American corporations need Chinese production to make money. Everything is made there AND it's the biggest market. The world used to kiss American ass for a long time because of money, now that China is a huge economic power it's normal that there is a shift. And the butthurt is amazing.
You have a final year to watch it lol
Adam Silver just dug his own grave.
The owner approve this not him
Weird because that shriveled up Nosferatu looking empty suit already sleeps in a coffin.
That’s not Adam fault . TNT had MONTHS ! To
Make a offer and they never did .
It’s just a show bro😂…we watch Inside the NBA because of the NBA not the other way round😂…
Seems suitable considering he looks like a zombie already
This is what happens when you dismantle cable TV. Everything is on streaming apps.
Cable tv has sucked for a long, long time.
@@NatTurnerswitBurnerznow people are paying for almost as cable for all the apps you need to watch your shows and live TV
@@85kingzeusThey do that intentionally to get you to spend the same amount of money you'd be spending with cable TV.
@@NatTurnerswitBurnerznah, now the streaming wars for all these companies is eventually gonna cost way more than Cable ever did
Yep exactly we are paying more how the hell is Netflix 25 dollars? Smh
it's crazy. my 62 year old mother religiously watches the TNT broadcast and the inside the NBA show. it's usually 25% of our topics of conversation.
Damn bruh
They did grandma dirty. 😢
Yo stfu. Buy her the subscription broke boy! Its a business
Its never about the fans. Its about the money. America has gotten to greedy and now we are paying for it.
I’m not paying for it. These new guys aren’t even that good to watch.
Well said
I ain't paying...never will use my time elsewhere
Can't they hire those goofs in their new show?
Gotten too greedy? 😂😂😂
That's adorable that you think that. It's been the case for a long, long time
Inside the NBA isn't the problem. TNT is the problem. Very few young NBA fans subscribe to Cable TV. The show is awesome, the vehicle its on to get to fans is old and outdated. UA-cam would be a better way to get young NBA fans watch games than expecting them to subscribe to Cable TV.
Bingo
The problem with that is there are more older fans than younger fans. The NBA is appealing to the wrong crowd.
true to a degree, but streaming/youtube etc. is all eventaully gonan cost way more than Regular cable 😂.
@@StCropperyou're wrong.
And what determines who is young or old? I'm 39 and I haven't had a cable TV package in at least 6 years.
@@bacardim390 I guess that’s the missing point then. I’m 35 and when I hear someone say “the young” I think they’re talking about teenagers and high schoolers. The crowd that uses their parents subscriptions and living off their parents. So I definitely could be wrong.
Congratulations TNT, you played yourself
🤦🏽♂️
So some people watch The TNT pre/post game and the halftime show but not actually any games. No wonder neither the Sports media talking heads nor the FANS, really know that much anymore about basketball.
That’s has nun to do wit it people still watch the games and go listen to mfs talk about it on espn next day difference is inside the nba is gonna give their real opinion not sugarcoat it cause they might want pg on the pod or sum like a lot these guys giving back rubs now
@@keemooo243That is their appeal to me. They tell it like it is and are funny.. they don't care if the current players like them or not. I feel like they are the last preserves of the golden age of basketball too. Irreplaceable! Now everything will be watered down opinion and shock takes 🙄🙄🙄
The games suck
Why is this so surprising? What has Adam Silver done besides constantly slapping fans in the face? Legacy of a spineless walking doormat for players.. smh
I mean it’s yall fault y’all gon keep complaining but still continue to watch the games but jerseys and go to games instead of hurting their pockets…
@@daa_97 Boy I don't put a penny towards the NBA.. get your facts right then get back to me..
@@daa_97painfully stupid line of logic you got going here. 😂.
@@daa_97if you think you’ve hurt their pockets by not watching you’re even dumber than you sound 😂. NBA is reeling in money hand over fist. So you’re accomplishing nothing with whatever idiotic crusade you’re on by “not putting money in their pockets” 🤡.
Now, having a constructive conversation about the NBA CAN accomplish something because if the right people in power hear this type of conversation it’s conceivable for change to happen.
I’m glad not everyone has your small-minded vision which leaves no room for progress of any kind and is honestly just an intellectually lazy, pessimistic, hide-under-a-rock type strategy where nothing will ever get done.
@@daa_97nobody's watching the games. The ratings are in the dumper.
the TNT boss straight up said "the nba sucks". why would the nba want to do business with them?
Yes.
People trying to blame nba. The owner of TNT said they can live without the NBA.
@TEExTIMEPODCAST I don't think the owner of TNT should of said that out loud. But there is nothing wrong with believing what he said. TNT showed their loyalty by matching the other offers. So the NBA was that but hurt over that comment?
@@lcmonty7084 if they wanted to show loyalty they would counter with more.
@@LuisRojas-mz2mg Amazon and NBC is not paying more so why should they? NBA quickly accepted their offer. Why does TNT have to kiss their hand? This is supposed to be a partnership .
@@lcmonty7084 partners don't denigrate other partners, just saying. this is essentially a bidding war now. you want to retain the rights to games? okay, show me how much you want it.
I hope the NBA's regular season ratings go in the shitter.
They already are in the dumper.
It’s not the NBA fault gang. TNT owner said they can survive without the NBA. TNT had MONTHS to match Amazon and they didn’t . Then decides to
Match it when it’s too late.
Not the nba fault . Plus EVERYONe Has Amazon prime account
@@TEExTIMEPODCASTI don't, and I have no plans to get Amazon.
😂😂you cause you hope OTHER ppl stop watching as you continue to watch lol
They don’t care players are making 60 million dollars, 20 years ago most stars made 5 million they DONT CARE
Huh, don't even care for the NBA much nowadays but always tuned for Inside the NBA.
So, you'll be going away soon enough. Enjoy the last season of ITNBA.
RATINGS WILL GO DOWN
I doubt it.
@@user-lj8yl7ts9x BET
NBA needs to be like the nfl and be on multiple channels not just espn and tnt they should get on fox,nbc,cbs
Most channels with the NFL dont want or need the NBA
No one watches the nba.....
NBC is in the new deal, but the regional sports networks were removed from Hulu after the big brand broke up when Disney got FOX, NBC got SKY, and Sinclair got the regional sports networks.
@@marklumar2034the NBA crushes everything but the NFL it's why ABC and now NBC paid so much for them
@@talldreamyopposumYet the NBA is getting 70 billion TV/streaming deal.
The reason a lot of sports leagues' popularity has declined in proportion to NFL is going to exclusive or obscure networks chasing cash, which creates a disincentive and barrier to entry to getting new fans. NFL granted is about to step on same grenade, but these sports leagues complaining about low attention need to make their sports more accessible to get more new fans to care.
I mean NFL already step into that path. It’s going to get worst and worst to just watch your local team play when network like Amazon prime, Netflix, and UA-cam can just out bit where now it’s going to be hard to just watch NFL with a TV antenna.
I agree wholeheartedly, but they don't care as long as these companies continue to throw billions at them.
They're combating dwindling viewership by partnering with companies like Amazon. They can beat that by being more global since basketball is a global sport. It still doesn't improve their overall product, but that's not their main goal.
Which is exactly what the NBA is doing. Way more people already pay for and have Amazon Prime…and less and less people are shelling out $90+ per month for a worthless cable package. This is a smart move by the NBA.
The nfl ratings have gone up........ theyre not the lame ass nba 🤣
@talldreamyopposum say you're white without saying you're white. (He's like, how did he know?) I hate to break the news, but the NFL is over half black too.
All I know is this this damn sure wouldn't happen during the Air Jordan era. Jordan had little old white ladies watching basketball. The money has gone up but the ratings are not like they used to be in the 90s and the global effect of the NBA isn't the same as the 90s either.
Facts....the ratings have went to the toilet.
Lol, we all had the Chicago sports channel on basic cable no matter what state you were from.
@@charlesduncanjr1066 exactly and it wasn't because Chicago was just such a great City that everybody wants to see a channel from that City it was because of MJ.
I’m not watching any NFL or NBA games on any streaming service of any kind. It’s sickening how greedy these sports leagues have become. I’ll catch the highlights on sports center.
Streaming is the future. Cable is the past.
@@cmurderwilliams26Not for me. I'm set in my ways. I see nothing wrong with cable. If you subscribe to all the streaming services, it probably costs more than cable anyway.
@@cmurderwilliams26 Streaming is another version of cable but worst. Instead of one extremely high bill. You have increasing streaming fees. Spread among several different streaming services that you have to keep up with. The future? More like the same thing repackaged. To make people feel like they have more control of television programming. But you actually don’t.
Suuuure you won't lol
Its really the fault of WB Discovery CEO... NBA just retaliated. Inside the NBA is great but its not also forever. In 11 years, we never know what happens to the team of Inside the NBA
Knicks, Yankees & Mets home games was on local tv back in the day. I miss those times.
I remember the MSG channel.
inside the nba on TNT !! had no filter bruh that’s why I loved the show !! shaqtin gone fishin running to the board nd the other crazy stuff they do on the show was worth watching !!!
Runnin' the board is pretty dang funny! I mean making something funny out of nothing!
And don't forget "Street Clothes" Davis!
TNT would be smart to offer Ej, Kenny, Shaq and Chuck a time slot of 8pm - 12am on Thursdays where they just sit around and comment about games going on around the league. Like the Manning Cast for MNF. They can talk about basketball happenings throughout the week. I’m not tuning into Amazon to watch Draymond and other boring people. And I don’t care about national games unless it involves my favorite team.
I camt belive the NBA thinks people are going to go on amazon prime tv to watch their regular season games lol
Not for these regular season games
Amazon Prime has over 200 million subscribers worldwide. Even if there are no new subscribers, that's still 200 million people who will have access to watch NBA games (assuming they are available to all Prime members).
That's significant leverage Amazon can use because that's 200 million worldwide, not just in the US. And there are millions of people who can't even watch NBA games right now who will suddenly have access to games. Amazon doesn't have to offer anything that even comes close to the production or entertainment of Inside the NBA. They only averaged about 1-2 million viewers anyway.
I don't like the decision at all, but I understand why the NBA did it, just as they stuck with terrible ESPN.
@atlien1988 Ya fair point but I can tell you right now I'm not going out of my way on a Wednesday night to go on Amazon prime to watch a regular season nba game where the starters are resting and not even trying. So I would say less Americans will watch it but more non Americans will watch it.
@@atlien1988 The most ratings the NBA has seen since 1998 is 28.1 million back in 2016. Since then the average ratings around 10.2 million
Look at the number of millennials and Gen Zers who subscribe to Amazon. How many do you think subscribe to cable TV? 🤣
Inside the nba was the only thing consistent with the nba since the players always hurt and don’t wanna play
The narratives you guys are on,tell me which league doesn't experience injuries to their top players also tell me which league where the players tell their teams they don't feel like playing...teams rest players on the advice of their medical staff,happens in every league even the almighty NFL
Outside of following my favorite team, the only reason i ever watched other games was the Inside the NBA crew....the real crew, not the bench squad.
I stopped watching games on espn after they got rid of Mark Jackson and crew. I guess I'll be down to warching nothing but my team after next season.
Charles kept it real..he would talk about the nba turning into wwe..he spoke out on how they talk about the lakers everyday and they are barely a play-in team. I will miss them
Parker speaking the real
TNT - is dead, the minute inside NBA gets tossed.
I can’t remember the last time I tuned in to TNT to watch a show or movie, this is a travesty I remember when it first started when I was in high school 😢
NBA didn't take it away, one suit took it away and it wasn't Silver. This is one person's fault. The money isn't even. Amazon paid for 3 years, WBD was doing a line of credit, those are not the same thing.
TNT: " We know drama"
It's not personal it just business y'all 😂😂😂. Amazon and NBC don't hire Draymond Green
Exactly. Who cares who airs the games as long as they make it accessible in a reasonable matter.
5real plzzzz don’t
Yea people are getting their emotions into this and taking it personal when this is all just business.
It’s sad 😞 there is no more Inside The NBA.
What a wonderful show. I’m going to miss it a lot.👌🏽
The NBA clearly doesn't want TNT covering the games anymore and sees the potential Amazon Prime subscribers as more beneficial than what Inside the NBA can provide.
NBA viewership in America on linear TV is dwindling, so they can combat that by offering more of their games to one of the biggest subscription platforms available.
Forget the fans. They just want the money, even if it destroys the sport, which is why viewership was down. Look at the most recent All-Star game as an example.
Tnt messed around and found out...they acted like loyalty was part of this relationship and found out. TNT Warner slow played and got shut out
The slap in the face was from TNT , not NBA. TNT chose not to go after it in the first place, don’t do this switcheroo
Having all the streaming services is more expensive than cable ever was...
I don't have cable anymore, but I have Netflix and Amazon Prime
I have IPtv. So, I've cable TV and all sreaming services for $5 a month 😂😂😂
AMAZON is the future TNT ain’t, normal TV is about to be finished everything is now online.
Let those guys go. It's time for them to go do the podcast thing
A couple things: first, the Ernie said he wasn’t going to work for any other network. Then the rest of the crew said that if Ernie isn’t going then they’re not going.
Man the NBA ratings are about to be dumb low lmao
they been low
@@VicDamoneJr82 correction, all time low lol but they gonna lie and tell us everyone is watching lmao
@@joshuainadagbo4771 exactly people are funny Amazon is just creating a monopoly
@joshuainadagbo4771 they don't care as long as they are generating billions. Look up the revenue that they made last year and see if no one is watching and buying merchandise.
It's amazing what you can buy when you don't pay taxes. Subsidized spaceships, TNF and now the NBA.
I think the NBA did exactly what they did to the Seattle Supersonics. They lied and didn't care about the fans, period.
TNT blew it with this one
Get Adam silva and lebum outta here
Adam Silver has destroyed the nba period
The NBA didn't take it away. Make no mistake about it...matching the offer doesn't make up for the lack of infrastructure and vision for the product that Turner has failed to provide. Blame Turner for not taking it seriously and planning things out for this day that everyone knew was coming.
I agree 100%
Regular season viewer numbers on Amazon are going to be so LOW.
NBA has died since Jordan retired
No when kobe retired . Everything officially changed when mamba out.
Y’all mad at the NBA for calling TNTs bluff? TNT was betting the fan criticism would affect the NBAs decision and it didn’t work. They gambled when they didn’t have to and lost.
Am I the only one who doesn’t care care about “Inside the NBA”, I’m excited to see a new team
I'm with that. I've been waiting for something different.
Yeah it's been 20 years so this is a great idea.
They’re always talking about tv rights and the deals increasing but if you look at the product you can’t justify it.
It's about time they got cancelled
Losing inside the nba as an nba fan is like losing toys r us as a 90s kid
It’s Time to Move On. 2024 thought us that. It’s a New Era 🗣️
Over the years I’ve found myself tuning in to the games just to watch Inside the NBA
I’m not gonna waste my time on watching the NBA again without “Inside The NBA”
Sure buddy 😂😂
Dare I say, are we outside the nba now??
Inside The NBA has to send themselves fishing
What people in the back don’t realize is that cable is dying and it’s too damn expensive nowadays.
Waiting for more exciting excuses 🤣
@@christopherking4932silver said himself that he wanted outta the cable business
Under the table
They can find another Ernie Johnson
The chemistry on his show can’t be found. There won’t ever be another show like it.
No they can't. Ernie is special, best in the business.
The NBA is such a an amazing product that TNT didn’t even care if they got it back. Says a lot about the current state of the league.
I think it's smart actually. Barkley and crew is going to retire soon anyway, even if they got the contract. Without Charles, the show wouldn't be that good. Why not go digital and try a new direction? I am a prime subscriber, so I am all for it lol
So it’s the NBA fault that TNT didn’t negotiate in appropriate time to evade this entire scenario? If a house is available for sale and you decide you’ll go get it at an auction and someone offers better than you at auction we should blame the seller?
I haven't watched the regular season in many many many years. However, I certainly watched inside the NBA clips all the time regularly.
Don't blame NBA, blame WBD for playing with their food...
Y'all are missing the point. If TNT said we don't need y'all don't come back later with an offer. Eat those words
I imagine the NBA got tired of Shaq and Barkley crapping on the product. They have a contractual deal to broadcast and promote the league, but they literally don't watch the games they're slated to cover, or rant about how things were in the 90s and 2000s, call everyone bums and actually tell fans not to watch games. Not to mention purposely butchering the international players' names, insulting stars during interviews and they best analysis they can come up with is that everyone is a bum or idiot, "Google me Chuck", "So and so is a damn moron", or barkley is legit sleeping. With the amount of money domestically and internationally the league is pulling in, Silver doesn't want that. That's not what the owners, commissioner and PA agreed to.
All things, good or bad, must and will come to an end at some point. I enjoy Inside the NBA as much as anyone, but the truth is that NBA itself as a product has been declining for a long time. Players are overpaid, viewership is declining, marquee teams turning into farces (the LA Lakers don't even exist any longer since last month--it's now the LA Lebrons (same initials, though)), and the style of play makes it unwatchable much of the time (shooting 3s all the time, no defense). The final straw may be if the Dream Team (maybe they're not calling them that anymore, but it's basically still an all-star team) loses (again) to lowly teams in the Olympics, exposing all of the issues listed above. South Sudan could be just the prescursor.
This sucks, I hope the guys just do their own show on UA-cam ! Live stream it , bring people on from the crew. They have the resources to do it!
Amazon Prime: 200+ million subscribers
TNT: 50 million subscribers
Rob: EVERYONE DOESN’T HAVE AMAZON!!!
I wonder how many subscribers Max has just from people who are there for NBA games? I know it was the only reason I ever subscribed. And only during the Finals. Having NBA on Amazon and NBC will be a lot more accessible. NBC is OTA. And I already pay for prime. So it will be nice to save the $10/month
It's a business decision. NBA has found a new huge partnership with Amazon. Media works like that. TNT messed up...
The NBA product sucks now. It's probably best for Inside to end while still on top.
Why would the NBA stay with TNT for another 11 years if inside the nba only has like 3 years max after Chuck leaves.
Life goes on. Enough of the fake drama queens. Get over it. Business is business.
Rob hit it right! Inside the nba is” comfort food” for us fans! I will miss those guys!
Inside the NBA were getting old. I guess it's time to get some new youth
Not a slap in the face to me....Charles and Shaq turned that show into a comedy show
This is TNTs fault not the NBAs.
Wasnt Charles going to retire anyways?
You're spelling Zaslav wrong
Sometime I only watch “Inside the NBA” because of the crew not because of the games lol
Adam silver would have been fired if he accepted TNT deal
Can't call it greed because TNT matched Amazon Contract but NBA feels that Amazon will reach a bigger Audience, In other words, More Viewers.
In other words: Mo money, mo money, mo money!
Literally canceled my Direct TV after 10 years. Told my wife Inside the NBA was the only reason I held onto cable. If I want sports, I joined FuboTV. Always in my heart Earnie, Chuck, Kenny, Shaq
RIP to the best show. Idk how long TNT will be around without it.
Inside the nba need to just hire a production company and have the show stream on,amazon,netflix or UA-cam
Some key points yall didn’t mention was that TNT could never match the global reach, advertising commitments, up front cash & access to streaming that Amazon Prime offers. Doesn’t mean I’m pleased about the decision either but with Chuck & Shaq both committing to retiring post next year the dye may have already been cast. WBD/TNT certainly knew this. My guess is this “matching” offer was just a head fake to satiate some stockholders.