Great work gents. I enjoyed Joel McHale. And the explanation in Chapter and Verse was very good. And as an Aussie, Dan M's Bluey t-shirt gets a big thumbs up.
Joel, best of luck to your Huskies tonight. Loved your appearance on Game Day earlier this year. Interesting conversation and very entertaining. Thanks for all you do, Dan and Dan.
Ha ha ha. Yep, Ewoks in Wrath of Kahn! Loved The Soup!! Great episode. Edit: Poor Dan and his illness! His left sinuses must have been awful, even his eye was red and puffy!
My grandfather was a KJO baptist minister from the mid-20s through the late 60s. He once said that the Revised Edition was the “Devised” Edition. I thought that was revealing.
I was told as a kid in a white pentacostal church that the stories in the Bible were literal, true history, which seemed like bullshit. It wasn't until my forties that Joseph Campbell informed me that those stories were mythology, which is a very different form of literature than fiction. The Bible became meaningful at that point for me and I'm very glad to see you're evangelizing of the scriptures for what that actually are. Bravo.
Hero With A Thousand Faces was the book published in 1949 and repopularized in the ninties by the Bill Moyer video interview of Joseph Campbell titled Power Of Myth.
@@EricMcLuen I was very persuaded by his thorough and thoughtful comparison of archetypal narratives across diverse cultures. What problems did you see with the mono myth?
40:00 So... how do we make a Bible scholar and friend TTRPG stream happen? I recommend the game Jackals by Osprey Games; the settings is a fantasy bronze age and the mechanics are quick to learn.
I call her the mystic of endor. The problem with the modern usage of the esoteric is that it runs the gambit of misdefinitions, pejoratives, and popular romanticization-> snake oil salesmanship. People who naturally have visions tend to see the dead. They are not typically romanticized as gods, and many believe they have spirit guides. The old tale were Paul is exclaming that "First peter, then the 12, then the 500 and finally..." This is an equivocation of his mystical experience to the visions held by his disciples, most of them were probably mystics, though unlikely many were natural mystics. We do not call these necromancers or witches. And as a mystic it seems likely that all the twelve or five-hundred saw Jesus in the same way Paul did, but if 1/2 of them saw him, its kind of 🥱 so what? So lets give a little background. The place we call bethel is on the border between Ephraime and Judah, its right there next to benjamin. Its actual name was Luz, meaning almond tree, its a metaphor for 🕎asherah🕎. And so we need to understand the goddess is often treated as the tripartite divine feminine, the seductress, fertility, and wisdom. And by wisdom we generally mean esoteric knowledge. Women would have come to this place to devote themselves to and express in private things which are better not expressed in public, not neccesarily dealing with necromancy and not neccesary pertaining to magick. Natural mystics dont need magick, thats kind of the point. The philistines are coming from the southwest, Saul has retreated back to galilee to seek this mystic. As he returns to battle his army is lost. It also appears that Bethlehem is lost, and David needs to move his god elsewhere, he eventually chooses Jerusalem. And so we have to ask this question what is the value of the mystic of endor. The Ark of El is lost, Yahu is kicked out his seat in Judea (Ergo, ritual sites are disrupted). And the king is back on his heels, back peddling to Endor, and Samu'el, this last representative of the judge/prophets is dead. The story reflects complete chaos. Its probably the case that the philistines went about destroying and stealing ritual items to demoralize the Israelites into submission. And so without their magick their gods arent speaking to them, but the asherah are spread diffusely on the land, ki/ge, is about the divinity of place (origin, growth, rebirth). They dont really need high gods for their magick. So these women of asherah would not need these iconography, and so they represent the last hope of a king. It also shows the fragility of belief during that period. And so now we can rewrap the story, this is an epic battle between the stragglers of the old gods, and children of foriegn gods. The newcomers are winning, and they need a ruthless hero that will do what it takes to destroy them, but first Saul has to be gotten out of the way. The battle is lost, the new king arises defeats the philistines and takes half the kingdom himself. Pretty, but David lost a significant amount of Yahudah in the process, and priest considered him taboo with his observances of the gods.
Community over Dogma
Six seasons and a movie!
Finally, I have a tie-in for my Community-obsessed partner
I'd love for you all to have Dr. Joel Baden on to talk about David.
You guys should have Dr. Justin Sledge on to talk about magic in the context of the bible.
Crossover I never knew I needed
Great work gents. I enjoyed Joel McHale. And the explanation in Chapter and Verse was very good. And as an Aussie, Dan M's Bluey t-shirt gets a big thumbs up.
Joel, best of luck to your Huskies tonight. Loved your appearance on Game Day earlier this year. Interesting conversation and very entertaining. Thanks for all you do, Dan and Dan.
Hey, congratulations on 10,000 subscribers. 🚀🎉
Ha ha ha. Yep, Ewoks in Wrath of Kahn! Loved The Soup!! Great episode. Edit: Poor Dan and his illness! His left sinuses must have been awful, even his eye was red and puffy!
Definitely should bring in Dr. Justin Sledge from Esoterica!
Always love your stuff, Dans! Big fan of "Community", so enjoyed Mr. McHale too!! Tha KS for an interesting episode!
Joel could hook them up with Dan Harmon
@@sniperwolf50 the 3 Dan's!!! 🤣
@@thinkingoutloud1466 exactly!
JOEL MCHALE IS AWESOME ❤❤❤❤
0:34 there was a movie made about David where Leonard Nimoy played Samuel and he appears with the Witch of Endor when Saul seeks her council.
“I see dead people” the same thing? 🤣Scary to think of having that spiritual gift.
Dan(s), I love the podcast, keep up the good work, but I do have one concern:
Endor is a forest moon, not a planet :)
That’s no moon…
ha!
I remember them saying in church nothing ever changed in the Bible.
😞
Hey I’m watching this sick! Damn
My grandfather was a KJO baptist minister from the mid-20s through the late 60s. He once said that the Revised Edition was the “Devised” Edition. I thought that was revealing.
The New Testament was published by The Rasmus? I thought Marcion publishing it was already mind-blowing!
Mistress of Ghosts would be a pretty killer band name
Stitched together = Frankenbible
Please please please do an episode on the David/Saul epoch!!
My only question is if this necromancer of En-dor weighed as much as a duck?
I was told as a kid in a white pentacostal church that the stories in the Bible were literal, true history, which seemed like bullshit. It wasn't until my forties that Joseph Campbell informed me that those stories were mythology, which is a very different form of literature than fiction.
The Bible became meaningful at that point for me and I'm very glad to see you're evangelizing of the scriptures for what that actually are.
Bravo.
Hero With A Thousand Faces was the book published in 1949 and repopularized in the ninties by the Bill Moyer video interview of Joseph Campbell titled Power Of Myth.
@@scottevans1096Campbell is an interesting read but has some issues when he says everything is the same monomyth.
@@EricMcLuen
I was very persuaded by his thorough and thoughtful comparison of archetypal narratives across diverse cultures.
What problems did you see with the mono myth?
So Endora from Bewitched conjured up Samuel for King Saul?
40:00 So... how do we make a Bible scholar and friend TTRPG stream happen?
I recommend the game Jackals by Osprey Games; the settings is a fantasy bronze age and the mechanics are quick to learn.
Wow I got converted at a Young life camp too Sharptop Cove smh lol
Birthplace of JPL. Sex and Rockets by John Carter is a fascinating book.
get Joel back . that is all
Get up, come on get down with the sickness!
Open up your hate, and let it flow into me!
Nice Disturbed reference 😂
@@lde-m8688 I felt it appropriate as both hosts were reportedly, down...with some sort of sickness. 🤓
@@KHAT0VAR I agree! Also nice to see a metal fan in the comments!
Was he supposed to be joking about Epic Games? Cause they're headquartered all the way in North Carolina.
Community!!!
Wonder what's happening in the darkest timeline....
2:18-2:26 Cool.
Nat 20! Jesus saves. All others take 2d6 fire damage.
You know, I actually liked the Ben Affleck Daredevil movie, although the show was much better.
Yub nub!
I wish the questions were more about Joel. He is so funny, but the questions were boring, and the interviewer on the right is just too serious
I love you guys, Dan and Dan. Please never invite that guy on again. He was painful. You two are far more funnier and far more humble. Cheers.
Sorry, but this one was utterly uninteresting. 😪
When are you finally going to get rid of the Annoying dumb Dan ? It's just horrible when someone thinks they're funny and they're not.
Really? Aren't you just a little ray of sunshine.
I call her the mystic of endor. The problem with the modern usage of the esoteric is that it runs the gambit of misdefinitions, pejoratives, and popular romanticization-> snake oil salesmanship.
People who naturally have visions tend to see the dead. They are not typically romanticized as gods, and many believe they have spirit guides. The old tale were Paul is exclaming that "First peter, then the 12, then the 500 and finally..." This is an equivocation of his mystical experience to the visions held by his disciples, most of them were probably mystics, though unlikely many were natural mystics. We do not call these necromancers or witches. And as a mystic it seems likely that all the twelve or five-hundred saw Jesus in the same way Paul did, but if 1/2 of them saw him, its kind of 🥱 so what?
So lets give a little background. The place we call bethel is on the border between Ephraime and Judah, its right there next to benjamin. Its actual name was Luz, meaning almond tree, its a metaphor for 🕎asherah🕎. And so we need to understand the goddess is often treated as the tripartite divine feminine, the seductress, fertility, and wisdom. And by wisdom we generally mean esoteric knowledge. Women would have come to this place to devote themselves to and express in private things which are better not expressed in public, not neccesarily dealing with necromancy and not neccesary pertaining to magick. Natural mystics dont need magick, thats kind of the point.
The philistines are coming from the southwest, Saul has retreated back to galilee to seek this mystic. As he returns to battle his army is lost. It also appears that Bethlehem is lost, and David needs to move his god elsewhere, he eventually chooses Jerusalem. And so we have to ask this question what is the value of the mystic of endor. The Ark of El is lost, Yahu is kicked out his seat in Judea (Ergo, ritual sites are disrupted). And the king is back on his heels, back peddling to Endor, and Samu'el, this last representative of the judge/prophets is dead. The story reflects complete chaos. Its probably the case that the philistines went about destroying and stealing ritual items to demoralize the Israelites into submission. And so without their magick their gods arent speaking to them, but the asherah are spread diffusely on the land, ki/ge, is about the divinity of place (origin, growth, rebirth). They dont really need high gods for their magick. So these women of asherah would not need these iconography, and so they represent the last hope of a king. It also shows the fragility of belief during that period.
And so now we can rewrap the story, this is an epic battle between the stragglers of the old gods, and children of foriegn gods. The newcomers are winning, and they need a ruthless hero that will do what it takes to destroy them, but first Saul has to be gotten out of the way. The battle is lost, the new king arises defeats the philistines and takes half the kingdom himself.
Pretty, but David lost a significant amount of Yahudah in the process, and priest considered him taboo with his observances of the gods.