Another great example of there always being something new to learn. I'll just leave it at that! Thanks for the video, you just saved me about 80% of the time I spend comping tracks.
Thanks for the lesson, well explained and not unnecessarily long. 3:04 You can also save another version of this session as a practice one, so you don't need to worry so much about the session you're working on.
@@CatoNoise Absolutely, I'm finding PT incredibly counter intuitive for comping. I normally use Cubase, but have experience with many other DAW's as well, thankfully you can also use these shortcuts in playlist view as well.
Hi Cato, thanks for the video. I have a question. What happens to the clips, or portions of clips, that are unused? Do they go into the clips list where they can then be removed or deleted from the session? Or do they still need to be in a playlist that is being used for the target clip? Thanks again.
Thank you for you help, I keep coming back to this vid but, I just can't get my head around why comping is such a pain in PT while almost every other daw makes it so much easier. Sorry for the rant, I'm only using PT because of some engineers I work with and I don't think I'll ever like it.
there is sometimes an extra step in pro tools that may make it seem more manual than other daws but the comping in pro tools is to me very superior to any other DAW except for maybe studio one which is very neat. But what i have noticed in the last 20 years is that everytime Pro tools comes up with a new innovation, all the other daws copy it, and in some cases improve upon making it a bit more automatic. But with pro tools shortcuts you will be superior to most other daws. This is one of many reasons why its still the industry standard DAW.
Sorry, what is a target playlist? Is that the same thing as the main playlist, or something different? (Main playlist meaning the summation of all the takes you actually want)
Yeah, so designating something as the "target playlist" to my understanding, is a way to communicate with the computer that that's the playlist you want when you use these shortcuts and stuff. So that often (very often) is the same thing as the playlist that's going to be the summation of all the takes you actually want, but you could in theory use it other ways too. Also something to note: in Pro Tools, what we tend to call the "main playlist" is usually the playlist that's at the top currently (could be any playlist in the moment). If you're in the playlist view, for example, it's the one that isn't in a sublane currently, and it's the one that will play if you don't solo any of the playlists on the sub playlist lanes. Let me know if that makes sense? Thanks for hanging out!
@@CatoNoise Kinda. So the way it normally works is that you have all the takes and whatever you move up to the main playlist equals the final track right? But with Target playlist, then you just start with that whole defaulting to being the main playlist? And then you adjust by upping clips from the other tracks to what you like? Is the purpose of that method because if you have a take that is the closest version to what you want and will require the least amount of edits, is that why you would make it the target playlist, then go from there?
@@richardwilliamsmusic Yeah, so a lot of the time, people just create a blank playlist and then move clips that they like up to that main blank playlist (their comp playlist), and they often leave that comp playlist as the main playlist. I think what's causing the confusion here is that, in this video, I used a session as an example that had already been comped. So I had already gone through this process and made a comped playlist (the one that starts on my main playlist at the beginning of the video). But, when using target playlists, you could also choose to create a new blank playlist, make that your comp playlist, and then comp the good clips onto that playlist. Or, you could start with one of the takes that's closest to what you want, and go from there. I'll often start with one of the takes that's closest to what I want, and then duplicate it onto a new playlist, and then comp on the duplicate version (so I still have that take on its own playlist if I want). So, you could work in a way that's essentially the same methods in that sense (creating a new playlist and comping to that, either as a fresh playlist, or as a duplicate); the difference is that you're just communicating with the computer in a slightly different way, and using shortcuts instead of clicking the up arrow, for example.
1) Select target playlist by making a playlist with edit selection in it be the current Main Playlist: Shift+Cmd/Ctrl+Right Arrow (*square target icon in wanted playlist appears blue) 2) Make Main Playlist be the Main Target Playlist: Shift + Right Arrow (also to return to that target playlist with home icon indicating it) 3) Comp to different takes (in other words comp other playlist parts lined up to main target playlist selection while target playlist is main target playlist at top of track): Shift+Cmd/Ctrl+Up/Down Arrow *home icon will appear if you cycle back to return to target playlist)
Here are the three functions explained as succinctly explained as possible: 1) Select target playlist by making a playlist with edit selection in it be the current Main Playlist: Shift+Cmd/Ctrl+Right Arrow (*square target icon in wanted playlist appears blue) 2) Make Main Playlist be the Main Target Playlist: Shift + Right Arrow (also to return to that target playlist with home icon indicating it) 3) Comp to different takes (in other words comp other playlist parts lined up to main target playlist selection while target playlist is main target playlist at top of track): Shift+Cmd/Ctrl+Up/Down Arrow *home icon will appear if you cycle back to return to target playlist)
Another great example of there always being something new to learn. I'll just leave it at that! Thanks for the video, you just saved me about 80% of the time I spend comping tracks.
Right on! I like how that works. Thanks.
Hey , this was very helpful. Thanks!
Thank you, Cato Zane! 😀
You're a boss, thanks Cato!
This is a great new way to comp, I'm going to practice with it! Thanks Cato
Thanks, I'm glad you found it helpful!
Hey Cato! Thank you for your work. Awesome :) Stay healthy, greetings Chris
Hey Chris, thanks! Hope you’re staying healthy too! How have you been?
Awesome! Just the information I needed :-) Thank you so much!
Glad to help!
Thanks for the lesson, well explained and not unnecessarily long.
3:04 You can also save another version of this session as a practice one, so you don't need to worry so much about the session you're working on.
thanks! and yeah, that's a great point!
Great tutorial
good tip, thanks!
AWESOME!!!!
Yo this is awsome. Thank you so much.
Thank you, glad you liked it!
Life saver
hey im from San Diego too! Nice video!
hey, awesome! San Diego representing! Lol
"Alright guys!" -the beginning of every Jiu Jitsu instructional ever made. :)
lol, just trying to follow in the path of the greats! haha
This is so much better than dealing with the up button nonsense!
Glad it helped! ^_^
@@CatoNoise Absolutely, I'm finding PT incredibly counter intuitive for comping. I normally use Cubase, but have experience with many other DAW's as well, thankfully you can also use these shortcuts in playlist view as well.
Hi Cato, thanks for the video. I have a question. What happens to the clips, or portions of clips, that are unused? Do they go into the clips list where they can then be removed or deleted from the session? Or do they still need to be in a playlist that is being used for the target clip? Thanks again.
if you delete the clip from the session it will no longer be in the playlist(s)
Thank you for you help, I keep coming back to this vid but, I just can't get my head around why comping is such a pain in PT while almost every other daw makes it so much easier. Sorry for the rant, I'm only using PT because of some engineers I work with and I don't think I'll ever like it.
there is sometimes an extra step in pro tools that may make it seem more manual than other daws but the comping in pro tools is to me very superior to any other DAW except for maybe studio one which is very neat. But what i have noticed in the last 20 years is that everytime Pro tools comes up with a new innovation, all the other daws copy it, and in some cases improve upon making it a bit more automatic. But with pro tools shortcuts you will be superior to most other daws. This is one of many reasons why its still the industry standard DAW.
That's a pity that target playlist button was introduced only in Pro Tools 2018((
Sorry, what is a target playlist? Is that the same thing as the main playlist, or something different? (Main playlist meaning the summation of all the takes you actually want)
Yeah, so designating something as the "target playlist" to my understanding, is a way to communicate with the computer that that's the playlist you want when you use these shortcuts and stuff. So that often (very often) is the same thing as the playlist that's going to be the summation of all the takes you actually want, but you could in theory use it other ways too. Also something to note: in Pro Tools, what we tend to call the "main playlist" is usually the playlist that's at the top currently (could be any playlist in the moment). If you're in the playlist view, for example, it's the one that isn't in a sublane currently, and it's the one that will play if you don't solo any of the playlists on the sub playlist lanes. Let me know if that makes sense? Thanks for hanging out!
@@CatoNoise Kinda. So the way it normally works is that you have all the takes and whatever you move up to the main playlist equals the final track right? But with Target playlist, then you just start with that whole defaulting to being the main playlist? And then you adjust by upping clips from the other tracks to what you like? Is the purpose of that method because if you have a take that is the closest version to what you want and will require the least amount of edits, is that why you would make it the target playlist, then go from there?
@@richardwilliamsmusic Yeah, so a lot of the time, people just create a blank playlist and then move clips that they like up to that main blank playlist (their comp playlist), and they often leave that comp playlist as the main playlist. I think what's causing the confusion here is that, in this video, I used a session as an example that had already been comped. So I had already gone through this process and made a comped playlist (the one that starts on my main playlist at the beginning of the video). But, when using target playlists, you could also choose to create a new blank playlist, make that your comp playlist, and then comp the good clips onto that playlist. Or, you could start with one of the takes that's closest to what you want, and go from there. I'll often start with one of the takes that's closest to what I want, and then duplicate it onto a new playlist, and then comp on the duplicate version (so I still have that take on its own playlist if I want). So, you could work in a way that's essentially the same methods in that sense (creating a new playlist and comping to that, either as a fresh playlist, or as a duplicate); the difference is that you're just communicating with the computer in a slightly different way, and using shortcuts instead of clicking the up arrow, for example.
@@CatoNoise Gotcha, thank you!
1) Select target playlist by making a playlist with edit selection in it be the current Main Playlist: Shift+Cmd/Ctrl+Right Arrow (*square target icon in wanted playlist appears blue)
2) Make Main Playlist be the Main Target Playlist: Shift + Right Arrow (also to return to that target playlist with home icon indicating it)
3) Comp to different takes (in other words comp other playlist parts lined up to main target playlist selection while target playlist is main target playlist at top of track): Shift+Cmd/Ctrl+Up/Down Arrow *home icon will appear if you cycle back to return to target playlist)
Looks terribly complicated!!
Here are the three functions explained as succinctly explained as possible:
1) Select target playlist by making a playlist with edit selection in it be the current Main Playlist: Shift+Cmd/Ctrl+Right Arrow (*square target icon in wanted playlist appears blue)
2) Make Main Playlist be the Main Target Playlist: Shift + Right Arrow (also to return to that target playlist with home icon indicating it)
3) Comp to different takes (in other words comp other playlist parts lined up to main target playlist selection while target playlist is main target playlist at top of track): Shift+Cmd/Ctrl+Up/Down Arrow *home icon will appear if you cycle back to return to target playlist)