well what matters is that he got the best of the century correct. S E R G I O R A M O S🐐 Most UCLs, Most seasons at top level, Most WORLD XI placements, Most FIFA team of the year awards for a defender.
@@itaachiii The glazing is crazy 💀never mind the rest, van dijk and ramos have played against almost the same players. Difference is ramos used to get spanked week in week out while van dijk was delivering world class performances
well what matters is that he got the best of the century correct. S E R G I O R A M O S🐐 Most UCLs, Most seasons at top level, Most WORLD XI placements, Most FIFA team of the year awards for a defender.
Jones: If you're thinking what they've achieved then I'd go Varane, but if you're thinking now, it has to be Saliba". By that logic Darwin Nunez is better than Pele
well what matters is that he got the best of the century correct. S E R G I O R A M O S🐐 Most UCLs, Most seasons at top level, Most WORLD XI placements, Most FIFA team of the year awards for a defender.
Why van dijk? Dude had a prime from 2018 to 2024 one year hurt and one year trash. Cannavaro had to win a world cup to be called good. Nesta had a prime for like 15 years. Thiago silva joined milan as a teenager in 2008 won the league in 2011 joined psg won the league then joined Chelsea old as hell won the league and won the champions league at age 40 then went to Brazil and won more titles in Brazil. Thiago silva had a prime a starter for AC milan from 2009 to 2023 . Van dijk prime is from 2018 to 2024 and one full season hurt.
@@acruzro95VVDs prime started a Southampton, he was world class there and people forget that. Also we’re judging a players longevity about 6 years before his career has ended. If he signs a new contract at Liverpool and continues to be as good as he is and wins a few more major titles, no reason to say he’s not in the debate. Also that 2 and a half years before his ACL was the best stint I’ve ever seen from a cb
Maldini and Cannavaro for me. Maldini as an all rounder, loved him so much and gis career seemed to never end, much like Fabio. Greatest era for CBs in my opinion.
VVD to me is the ultimate CB.He makes any team stronger.I think hes the best of this generation in my eyes🤷♂️😭.And saliba is good but arsenal havent won a PL in years and Never won the UCL
Van dijk is not even a top 10 CB of the XXI century. He's not better than pique sergio ramos terry chiellini bonucci zanetti Nesta cannavaro Maldini Samuel Lucio Thiago silva varane pepe vidic and arguably not Ferdinand. I'd throw in there Ivanovic too as a close second.
When John Terry joined Chelsea as a kid he became amcaptain in like 2002. He won the league with Chelsea 14 years after being the captain. That's like if van dijk would have joined liverpool not in 2018 but in 2011. Van dijk joined liverpool already built as a winter signing. He didn't have to take the spot from nobody. Or make a name for himself as a teenager.
The gap between Saliba and Varane is a lot closer than people think. Give him a few more years and if he wins some major silverware then it's absolutely a debate Vidic over Nesta was a horrendous take though
god i am so done with the Ramos parade man. Every time someone wants to say how great he was as a center back they immediately mention the goals and the charisma. ANYTHING ABOUT DEFENDING? also he played with 8 (EIGHHTT) ballon d'or winners in one team, so don't mention trophies.
@@Jimbobiscuit ronaldo, modric, R9, benzema, kaka, cannavaro, and messi at psg. Main point is he's extremely overrated yes. Yes he was good but lets compare each attributes with someone like VVD. One on ones? VVD. Tackles? VVD. Speed? VVD. Aerial ability? VVD. Strength? VVD. Marking? VVD.
How is he overrated? He played a key role in a side that won 4 champions leagues. He was even captain for 3 of them. Van Djik was 26 by the time he left Southampton, Ramos had already won a World Cup and 2 euros at the same age, not to mention all the club trophies. Van djik is an amazing defender, undoubtedly been the best in the world for some time now, but when it comes to legacy you cannot compare the two
@Chriskenny627 no I'm pretty sure he doesn't know more. He was clearly a good player although not world class by any means. However when he talks football you can clearly see he isn't a student of the game in any way.
@MH-vp7lf Keep memorising the goals as an argument, how about the times dribbles past and how many times he was on his face? no smoke without fire mate. Vidic was overrated af.
Ramos was class but i saw someone say the other day “imagine he played in the current premier league” and if u think about it he would get sent off 5/6 times a season😭 cus the amount of yellows ref’s give now for nothing, then on top of that getting yellows for talking back to the ref or time wasting he’d struggle to survive games
Ramos lol. People don’t remember how Ronaldinho used to burn him. Ramos is the Ronaldo of CBs, his body and aggressive attitude cover up a lot of cracks
“Carragher or Gabriel” “Saliba or Varane” “if we’re talking right now it’s Saliba” obviously right now it’s saliba, cus varane has RETIRED😭😭 also he was just asked if carra is better than gabriel, obviously they’re asking it based on career not current ability🤦♂️
I watched Rio’s whole career and the way the English media talk about him you’d think he was Maldini. He had plenty of mistakes in him and was nowhere near as good on the ball as they make out
I don’t get the “old centre backs had to deal with two strikers instead of one” because nowadays fullbacks go and play in midfield or go and play as wingers, trent and robbo had higher average positions than all 3 liverpool midfielders in klopps best years so van dijk and the other centre back had to deal with a striker and 2 wingers. Just look at the numbers from modern wingers and old wingers, new wingers get so many more goals because they’re basically strikers aswell. I get sometimes it is just one striker in the box but it’s not as simple as they make it out, old day wingers would rarely get in behind with a chance to shoot whereas now they do it every game
Jones your brain must have gone with your injuries… Maldini and don’t mention anyone else .. also played left back I know but don’t disrespect how good he was the man was unbelievable
If were talking ALL centre backs and not just Prem then its obviously Alessandro Nesta. If were talking just Prem then Stam, Kompany and Vidic are top 3. Van Dijk and Terry just behind in 4th and 5th.
It's interesting because he is an actual CB, but the takes are crazy. How is Saliba better than Varane? Varane was thriving in France and Madrid. But once again, maybe he sees something that we dont.
These are very pointless when the player favours certain players he played with... Saliba over Varane is laughable, Varane was one of the best defenders in the world for almost a decade... Ramos over Maldini is also laughable...no words for this one.
Maldini is the best defender ever…he played against maradona, to ronalso and messi so just think of all the players in between no other defender has or will ever play against them types of players agin and he played against them all. Maradona ronaldo( Brazil Adriano,Ibrahimovic, Batasuta Delel Piero, Baggio, Messi and Ronaldo(Portugal, just to name a few, so maldini has a cv better than anyone will ever have….
What are they asking Jones about players he never played against or even saw?! Very ridiculous. Asks a great to rate greats. The bias is bleeding from my screen
He got nearly all of them wrong, good job 👍🏻
Certainly enough to guarantee he'll have a successful career at Sky
@ 😂 absolutely.
I mean imagine picking any one of those over Maldini, and this guy “played the game”
well what matters is that he got the best of the century correct. S E R G I O R A M O S🐐
Most UCLs, Most seasons at top level, Most WORLD XI placements, Most FIFA team of the year awards for a defender.
@@itaachiii The glazing is crazy 💀never mind the rest, van dijk and ramos have played against almost the same players. Difference is ramos used to get spanked week in week out while van dijk was delivering world class performances
@ Sergio Ramos was not in the top 3 of the list of Defenders here for me.
proof that being a professional or former pro doesn't mean you understand anything about football
well what matters is that he got the best of the century correct. S E R G I O R A M O S🐐
Most UCLs, Most seasons at top level, Most WORLD XI placements, Most FIFA team of the year awards for a defender.
Jones: If you're thinking what they've achieved then I'd go Varane, but if you're thinking now, it has to be Saliba". By that logic Darwin Nunez is better than Pele
Saliba over Varane is CRAZY
Totally agree
In the PL it's not. All time however yeah Varane is better
@@louisdnd934 yes no doubt, they talking bout 21st century
@@Paxonite it is, its absurd
Absolutely
Kompany over Chiellini? Disgusting.
Saliba over Varane is an insane take
He chose Van Dijk over Rio? Fair play
Now i ive witnessed his football knowledge the way he played the game makes much more sense
Vidic over Nesta 😂😂 funniest thing you'll here all week
When will people give Nesta the respect smh
Reminds me of that time the BBC interviewed some random African guy thinking he was an expert and he just played along.
Brilliant 😂😂😂
He said vidic is better than nesta..😂😂😂
Saliba over Varane 🤦♂️ that is a horrific take.
Times have changed.Varane suffered in this new high level defending era
Arsenal fans will swarm in here now
6:40 - 'at the various teams he was at' - Milan and who else? 😂
Never have phil jones on sky again
well what matters is that he got the best of the century correct. S E R G I O R A M O S🐐
Most UCLs, Most seasons at top level, Most WORLD XI placements, Most FIFA team of the year awards for a defender.
Saliba over Varane, this guy is crazy
ramos - VVD - Maldini
is holy trinity
best attacking and aggresive CB
best playmaking CB
best defending CB
COMPLETE
Why van dijk? Dude had a prime from 2018 to 2024 one year hurt and one year trash.
Cannavaro had to win a world cup to be called good. Nesta had a prime for like 15 years. Thiago silva joined milan as a teenager in 2008 won the league in 2011 joined psg won the league then joined Chelsea old as hell won the league and won the champions league at age 40 then went to Brazil and won more titles in Brazil.
Thiago silva had a prime a starter for AC milan from 2009 to 2023 . Van dijk prime is from 2018 to 2024 and one full season hurt.
This is actually a pretty good take
@@acruzro95VVDs prime started a Southampton, he was world class there and people forget that. Also we’re judging a players longevity about 6 years before his career has ended. If he signs a new contract at Liverpool and continues to be as good as he is and wins a few more major titles, no reason to say he’s not in the debate. Also that 2 and a half years before his ACL was the best stint I’ve ever seen from a cb
Ramos and Van Dijk are not in the holy trinity of anything, especially not Ramos. ''Playmaking CB'' gtfo.
Maldini and Cannavaro for me. Maldini as an all rounder, loved him so much and gis career seemed to never end, much like Fabio. Greatest era for CBs in my opinion.
Disgusting how Lucio and Walter Samuel are not mentioned in this list.
VVD to me is the ultimate CB.He makes any team stronger.I think hes the best of this generation in my eyes🤷♂️😭.And saliba is good but arsenal havent won a PL in years and Never won the UCL
Van dijk is not even a top 10 CB of the XXI century.
He's not better than pique sergio ramos terry chiellini bonucci zanetti Nesta cannavaro Maldini Samuel Lucio Thiago silva varane pepe vidic and arguably not Ferdinand. I'd throw in there Ivanovic too as a close second.
When John Terry joined Chelsea as a kid he became amcaptain in like 2002. He won the league with Chelsea 14 years after being the captain.
That's like if van dijk would have joined liverpool not in 2018 but in 2011. Van dijk joined liverpool already built as a winter signing.
He didn't have to take the spot from nobody. Or make a name for himself as a teenager.
@@acruzro95what a ridiculously awful take 😂 VVD is easily in the top 5 of the 21st century, and possibly even top 3.
@@glewis9546 wtf no he's not lol. Top 10 yea very probably, top 5? not a chance
Saliba over Varane and Vidic over Nesta and Puyol gave me asthama attack.
Isn't Astama the capital of Kazakhstan?
The gap between Saliba and Varane is a lot closer than people think. Give him a few more years and if he wins some major silverware then it's absolutely a debate
Vidic over Nesta was a horrendous take though
@@CollideWithTheSlopeits chelsea’s next opponent in europe
Maldini the GOAT
Nearly all the choices were completely bizarre
Vidic over Cannavaro, Puyol and Nesta, imagine the waffle 😂😂😂😂
god i am so done with the Ramos parade man. Every time someone wants to say how great he was as a center back they immediately mention the goals and the charisma. ANYTHING ABOUT DEFENDING? also he played with 8 (EIGHHTT) ballon d'or winners in one team, so don't mention trophies.
8 in one team?
@@Jimbobiscuit ronaldo, modric, R9, benzema, kaka, cannavaro, and messi at psg. Main point is he's extremely overrated yes. Yes he was good but lets compare each attributes with someone like VVD. One on ones? VVD. Tackles? VVD. Speed? VVD. Aerial ability? VVD. Strength? VVD. Marking? VVD.
@@yehiak8711 Well "in one team" doesnt really fit then but I get your point. He is massively overrated
How is he overrated? He played a key role in a side that won 4 champions leagues. He was even captain for 3 of them. Van Djik was 26 by the time he left Southampton, Ramos had already won a World Cup and 2 euros at the same age, not to mention all the club trophies. Van djik is an amazing defender, undoubtedly been the best in the world for some time now, but when it comes to legacy you cannot compare the two
@@adamclayton6975 Legacy doesn't make you a better player. As a defender, Ramos was never elite.
Rednapp clearly wanted to laugh in his face when Jones said he was aware of the success Maldini had 'at all his various clubs'. 😂😂😂
He then said italy and ac milan so cop on mate
@Chriskenny627 Redknapp said Milan. Jones just repeated. He was clearly oblivious and thought Maldini was a pasta sauce until that moment.
@@johnduncan5117id say he knows a bit more than you mate youre probably 12 if you get a laugh from things like that
@Chriskenny627 no I'm pretty sure he doesn't know more. He was clearly a good player although not world class by any means. However when he talks football you can clearly see he isn't a student of the game in any way.
@@johnduncan5117and this is exactly why he is who he is. Clearly spent time off the pitch without learning anything about the sport.
Even Vidic will feel upset if he hears about him being picked over Nesta and Puyol
As a South African in my 30's Vidic over Nesta is diabolical.
Absolutely hilarious
Rio Ferdinand better than Nesta 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ramos as a centre half should not be anywhere near the GOAT debate , if trophies alone made your the GOAT or mascherano would be the goat DM
Vidic over Silva 😂😂
And Cannavaro
Silva is the best cb of his generation along with Ramos
@@Akm_699 Virgil
@@Akm_699 clown behaviour.
Godín is cleary incredibly underrated.
Torres doesn’t think vidic is very good tbh 😂
“Red card” Vidic.
3 goals in 15 games against him....
@MH-vp7lf Keep memorising the goals as an argument, how about the times dribbles past and how many times he was on his face? no smoke without fire mate. Vidic was overrated af.
I'm an Arsenal fan but those first few picks were crazy 😮
Honestly, he’s almost always wrong.
Ramos has a world record of both red and yellow cards. He can't be number 1
Should've brought any random guy off the street and they would've actually made it worth an actual 8 min watch.
The answer is obviously Michael Keane
@rajenpatel3552 Not sure what the question is at that point lol.
It's mad to think he's still only 32
Redknapp doing everything to make jones say rio against vvd.
I mean the way he answered thes questions you can tell what kind of play he was😮
Terrible takes from jones
The disrespect towards Vidic, a 2X Premier League player of the year as a CB is insane.
He picked rio over vidic and terry and nesta 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He picked gabriel over dias 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
These games are so stupid. Just give him a list of all of them and let him pick the best
It was Gabrielle the singer lmao! Poor Carra
WHO Kompany?
1. Maldini 2. Ramos 3. Cannavaro 4. Nesta 5. VVD 6. Vidic 7. Terry 8. Rio 9. Puyol 10. Kompany
Ramos was class but i saw someone say the other day “imagine he played in the current premier league” and if u think about it he would get sent off 5/6 times a season😭 cus the amount of yellows ref’s give now for nothing, then on top of that getting yellows for talking back to the ref or time wasting he’d struggle to survive games
Every game he got sent of about 5/6 times anyway lol
Rio played against 2 strikers in the old 442. VVD is playing against 2 wingers and a ST 433
ramos over maldini?????
i don't know if i can ever unsee this video again.
Ramos lol. People don’t remember how Ronaldinho used to burn him. Ramos is the Ronaldo of CBs, his body and aggressive attitude cover up a lot of cracks
I would rate his Ball knowledge 30/100
He hasn’t a clue said van dijk dip In form he’s been brilliant and he said the various clubs that Maldini was at 😂
Nemanja Vidic over Gérard Pique? Saliba over Sol Campbell? Impressively wrong
0.0000000% ball knowledge🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The man who stayed at Man Utd for year and made millions but never played fair play and we’ll done made a living in the back room 😂
So biased. Its like he never even played .
I thought they were talking just about their PL performances (to find an explanation for Varane losing) and then Chiellini shows up
“Carragher or Gabriel”
“Saliba or Varane”
“if we’re talking right now it’s Saliba”
obviously right now it’s saliba, cus varane has RETIRED😭😭 also he was just asked if carra is better than gabriel, obviously they’re asking it based on career not current ability🤦♂️
Ramos is the most overrated defender of all time.
Let me guess he’s picks a United player 😂
I watched Rio’s whole career and the way the English media talk about him you’d think he was Maldini. He had plenty of mistakes in him and was nowhere near as good on the ball as they make out
Phil Jones? Get an actual CB next time..
I don’t get the “old centre backs had to deal with two strikers instead of one” because nowadays fullbacks go and play in midfield or go and play as wingers, trent and robbo had higher average positions than all 3 liverpool midfielders in klopps best years so van dijk and the other centre back had to deal with a striker and 2 wingers. Just look at the numbers from modern wingers and old wingers, new wingers get so many more goals because they’re basically strikers aswell. I get sometimes it is just one striker in the box but it’s not as simple as they make it out, old day wingers would rarely get in behind with a chance to shoot whereas now they do it every game
because they mean center forwards, proper 9s, not wingers (who are basically inside forwards these days).
Some shockingggg takes here😂
I new jones was going to go on sky he’s doing bits now FairPlay to him
Titus Bramble all day long,the Goat.
Maldini is the greatest defender of all time!!
Jones your brain must have gone with your injuries… Maldini and don’t mention anyone else .. also played left back I know but don’t disrespect how good he was the man was unbelievable
It would be good if he place argument on his picks.
Now I understand while at 32 it now seemed like he last played football 50 years ago😂
Ramos ,Maldini top ever
Maldini yes. Ramos no chance
Never heard anyone outside England called English CB as best at their peaked not 🤣
Maldini, Nesta, Cannavaro.. Holy trinity
Phil Jones, definitely best defender
If were talking ALL centre backs and not just Prem then its obviously Alessandro Nesta. If were talking just Prem then Stam, Kompany and Vidic are top 3. Van Dijk and Terry just behind in 4th and 5th.
Like anyone is near van dijk
Maybe if VD had played in time Drogba ,Titi Henry Rudd VN,Diego Costa Shearer and so on and so one than you can ask this stupid question
Happy for Phil 😃.
Van Dijk couldn't lace Rio's boots
your right cause he doesnt lace boots, instead he kicks balls with his
@kanz7329 good one...
Gotta be between Chris Smallim and Phil Jones
It's interesting because he is an actual CB, but the takes are crazy. How is Saliba better than Varane? Varane was thriving in France and Madrid. But once again, maybe he sees something that we dont.
What he sees is the Premier League. That's the limit of his imagination.
That's how he can end up saying Rio F*****g Ferdinand is better than Nesta.
Puyol was already retired i think
Vidic, vidic,vidic 😂😂😂
Maldini was and still is the goat
These are very pointless when the player favours certain players he played with...
Saliba over Varane is laughable, Varane was one of the best defenders in the world for almost a decade...
Ramos over Maldini is also laughable...no words for this one.
Why tf is phill jones here
Vidic over Nesta? 😂😂😂
Hey sky! Maldini was a left back 😅😅😅
VVD ❤❤
Absolutely 0 to the power of 100 ball knowledge.. Gosh!
Ramos is nowhere NEAR the defender VVD is....Glad he chose VVD over Rio because even Rio has admitted that VVD is better than he was at his prime.
Maldini is the best defender ever…he played against maradona, to ronalso and messi so just think of all the players in between no other defender has or will ever play against them types of players agin and he played against them all.
Maradona ronaldo( Brazil Adriano,Ibrahimovic, Batasuta
Delel Piero, Baggio, Messi and Ronaldo(Portugal, just to name a few, so maldini has a cv better than anyone will ever have….
He hadnt played against messi, but nesta played when he was 36, and he put him in his pocket
Go watch highlights of Maldini . . he makes Ramos look like a child.
MALDINI dont even mention anyone else
What are they asking Jones about players he never played against or even saw?! Very ridiculous. Asks a great to rate greats. The bias is bleeding from my screen
Where's Thiago Silver
Vidic over nesta??? 😂😅😅😅
❌ 0 ball knowledge ❌