3 years late to the show here. Tripped over the video looking for coaching resources. 5 hours to get through the video cause I kept applying what you were talking about to my own archery, and I'd grab the bow and head outside to my range and try what you said. Bettered my shooting and gave me some invaluable tips about coaching. 2 birds, 1 Arrow. THANKS!!!
Thank you George for posting this... I went through an entire course to gain my instructor of intermediate certification... I learned more from this video than I learned from the entire course. Your wealth of knowledge is priceless!!!
I bought a hinge release a couple months ago. I listen to this while I shoot in my garage at night. I’ve been shooting a bow for 18 years and I have finally experienced archery bliss! Shooting a bow the way you are explaining is an experience that is smooth, effortless and without anxiety. Griv, thank you so much. I hope I have a chance to see you in person at some point. Thank you
As a new adult archer, this presentation gives me a fantastic framework to begin building my archery skills. Thanks for a clear, concise, step-by-step plan.
Ignorance is bliss...i shot my best rounds when i was punching and i didnt know anything about back tension and target panic once someone got in my head and told me about back tension and target panic it ruined everything
Griv. I have been practicing in my garage 3 spot at 10 yards. Every time I’m getting 330’s w/HBX. So the past week I’ve been practicing at 20 getting ready for the IAA Illinois State Aggregate Championship. This short distance perfect scores Brain Learning has worked its way into my subconscious, cramming my shot groups in X 70% and the remaking 10’s with an occasional 1-9. And thank you for showing me how to make a torqueless loop.
This man is a national archery treasure. Single most amazing talk on execution I have ever seen. Thank you so much for posting this. I wish more people would discover this beautiful sport.
This is the best description of the TP and how to get rid of it. If you wanna learn something new, it is not about the equipment. Its about time and effort to make that change. And that is the same in every part of life. So thank you for this great presentation.
Sir you are an amazing Coach and a blessing for all the juniors archers (well any lucky enough to get your advice and help ). I want to send my son to you one day he's 7 and been shooting for 2yrs . thanks for the video from a Zimbabwean archer .
Excellent presentation. The coaching keys buried in here are pure gold, gained form practical experience. Will Watch this 50 more times, to make sure I did not miss a thing!
George this is the best explanation video I have ever seen. Thank you so much for the awesome work you do for archery . I wish we had people like you in Europe.
George, I rarely leave comments but I feel really compelled to leave one for you. From the way you explain archery and the techniques required to achieve a high level of success to the way you talk about dealing with kids and letting them deal with their dragons on their own, I just feel like you are not only a good coach but a very compassionate and aware human being. Thank you for the work that you do.
George, this is the best talk I have every heard on the subject. Thank you for sharing. I recently got back into Archery and I am battling some habbits I developed as a youngster. The points you made will certainly help. I admire the work you and your organization are doing. Keep it up!
Thanks griv, I think I really needed to see this! I've been trying to keep my wrist straight instead of embracing the bend. I'm loving this new form so far and now I don't feel like I'm pulling myself off the target as much, just more waiting for the shot to break naturally.
Thank you Mr. Ryals. That explains my major problem and I will start to work on it. One of the best information ever. I can't shoot the release because my hand is to stiff. Greetings from Germany.
EXCELLENT!!. Never had target panic until I switched to a release... I cured it by throwing it in the drawer and went back to fingers...and never looked back. Even though I know I could be more accurate with a release, I'm plenty accurate to get the job done, 100% of the time...yea bowhunter and not target archer so that makes it acceptable. really learned a lot, great lesson!..glad I stumbled onto your channel.
Thank you George Target panic to a tee never fully understood the whole effect until I watched another of your clips in a Facebook post which lead me here, I could not lift the pin into the Gold happened over time adjusted sight stab weights etc the harder I tried the low the pin seemed to get, resetting my shot steps lowering the rear shoulder before anchoring forgetting the release what a difference pin straight in the low gold. Proves my winter will be spent starting again to learn new habits Thanks for sharing you knowledge
It is true if you talk about it , listen about it , research it…… you will get it. I never had it until i started all that. Maybe i didn’t realize… i dont know
Full loss of control? Yup. That was me. Win a national level tournament, then everything just gets messed up. Started by punching a few shots, that led to not even being able to take my thumb off the peg. Then I could not even aim at a target. Take the target away, and I can pick out a single arrow hole, and I can make a perfect form shot. Put the target back up, my brain freaks out. Then the Covid break hits, I spent thousands of arrows at close range, and finally feel like I am coming out of it. Crazy how it happens. On top of your game one day, and then all of a sudden, you are at the bottom ready to sell everything. Thanks for all of this info George, it does help.
Timberghost74 eventually, when steps are skipped, you’ll have to go back and pick them up when you need them most. There’s no shortcut. Follow the incremental procedure I laid out here and you’ll be well on your way to mastering the process as it should be. Don’t be afraid to mix methods a little. Braden Gellenthein did something similar but different. Dan McCarthy does something different as well, but they are all incremental with mastery at each level and you can’t skip steps. The root of the exercises are the same. Just the methods are different.
Thank you for this training. I wished I would of had you the first time (very recently) I shot a bow. I was rushed from the safe room out to the lane and now I have lane panic. For one, the fellow beside me had a recurve, I have a compound, so he could shoot arrows so much faster. He was also much more experienced than me. Since you have a lane caller, I was lucky to get off one shot before time and in my haste, I had a misfire! Luckily no one was hurt as I am very safety consciousness and aim low, not high bringing the bow up. I know it's not the trainer's fault, they think that they are giving you confidence. However I think keeping a newbie in the safe room for a time would be better. It would of been for me. Also, I wished I would of been told to prepare for the force of these bows! It was like handing a person and 12 gauge shotgun and saying just aim and fire without warning of the kick back! lol Yanked me forward so hard, I did the two step. They thought I was doing a victory dance LOL
@@jassonkhoo1223 Thank you, I shall relearn this immediately. It's hard on a called lane and I think this is part of my fear now and why I had an arrow misfire on me. Again causing fear as I have not been able to go back since.
Never experienced target panic. Wish I knew what it felt like... kind of feel out of the loop. I know its looked down upon but I command shoot with an index release or Mediterranean split finger draw with my compound. 27.5 inch draw with a release 28.5 - 29 inch draw with fingers using tabs and no sight or peep
Erm... Its true.. My release did fail and didnt shoot.. One of the springs was chewed up and in 5 pieces! I first started on recurve, I was 46 years old I'm 51 now. My first 'coach' wasn't interested in the score or competition. He doesn't care about form as long as whatever I did, I do it consistently and safely. I've changed archery clubs, there's 6 clubs in this town. I've been shooting compound now for a couple of years. I'm now learning how to shoot properly.
If I was to get ready for an indoor season how should I prepare? Would you suggest 50 games at 7 or 10 yards, then another 50 at 15 yards and then move back to 20? Would you prepare the same for a field/FITA 50 meter season i.e. close up shooting? I’m willing to put in the tough work, I would just like a plan.
Mr Ryals, this was an amazing (simple yet elegant analysis of shot execution) discussion. I immediately was able to improve part of my execution after making some wrist adjustments (allowed to let my wrist be more " loose"). Question: as I try to "retrain" my shot sequence, what other techniques or tricks do you suggest to keep my mind "looking (and thinking) forward"? I am just at the string tied to wooden grip stage, looking in mirror at forum and dry firing thumb release in my house. I am also getting a tension (currently use a thumb) release to work on this.... I get to beautiful draw, anchor in, float my imaginary sight (I have a red laser taped to my wooden handle)...right now I just float in on the wall and dont "pick a point" (ie not aiming at a bulls eye) and push-pull and squeeze shoulder blades....BUT I still find my mind "shifting back" to my release/elbow/pulling back motion and quit being focused on my red dot. Should I turn off the red pointer? How do I keep my mind "forward" on the target and not "thinking" about "ok, time to activate release" Great video! Thanks!
memorizing technique using the string, then move the feel to the bow and blank bale until you have good command of the technique. Next put up a target and shoot xs at 5 yards. Full effect, shoot 20 games at 5, 15 games at 10, 10 games at 15, and 5 games at 18. until you walk your way out to 20.
Everything i know and learned was on my own didn't have a clue what i was doin funny how it works one day you would almost think i was on pro circuit one min next first time i ever shot
I shoot with one eye closed....and have found that when I close it, it seems to "trigger" my old habit of "aiming" and thus worrying about firing release
@@georgeryals I basically did everything wrong every step of the way getting started. I'm kind of a loner and have a hard time asking for help. I bought a bow on the internet, have NEVER been properly measured, have a wrecked left shoulder from a bike crash, am left-eye dominant but right handed, had a shop setup my first bow that clearly did not care about getting me setup correctly. I'm 6'5", have short arms for my height but really struggled with trying to squeeze myself into a 30" Bear Cruzer G2. So when I saw the chance to jump to a 38" one week-old Bear Revival, I jumped on it just before Xmas. So now I'm relearning a different string angle, and am working on finally getting correct anchor points, but I honestly need a professional to measure me and see what the hell is going on. One day, I'm shooting fairly well, the next, terrible. I'm not missing bales or anything that bad, but to me, the difference between 24 hours sometimes seems insurmountable. And also, just constant gear problems. I live in San Diego and our shop options are limited. I've been to all 3 in the county and have not seen the level of attention to detail paid to bow setups like you see here and with the guys at The Bow Rack. I'm half tempted to fly somewhere and get help but I've been absolutely bleeding money into archery now for 6 months.
@@georgeryals and I'm in it, deep. I'm obsessed. Watching all your videos as well as Dudley and Robert's as well. Probably information overload. I wake up in the middle of the night with terms I've just learned flying through my head. I've never applied myself to anything like this before in my life. It's certainly not from lack of effort or ambition.
@@georgeryals I figured it out. It took me months of frustration to find something a coach would have seen on my first shot. My draw length was too short and I couldn't get my elbow behind the pin. Sometimes it was pointing 30 degrees off to the right and I was angling my torso towards the target to compensate. I feel dumb but at least I know what I was doing wrong. Thank you for everything you do. Someday, I'll come visit.
@@ryaneberly799 awesome! it's alway a good feeling when you have a breakthrough no matter how long it takes. I can't fault anyone for not spotting it. it's always easier to see after you have found it. Archery coaching is half developing sight to spot things underneath the obvious and the other half is being able to interpret the whole picture and accurately decide what to work on and when to work on it.
@@jasonnester9514 maybe it's not draw length. Perhaps its how you approach your anchor. Look for the part about anchoring and "making the triagle bigger"
3 years late to the show here. Tripped over the video looking for coaching resources. 5 hours to get through the video cause I kept applying what you were talking about to my own archery, and I'd grab the bow and head outside to my range and try what you said. Bettered my shooting and gave me some invaluable tips about coaching. 2 birds, 1 Arrow. THANKS!!!
Thank you for posting this and for all you selflessly do for our sport.
Thank you George for posting this... I went through an entire course to gain my instructor of intermediate certification... I learned more from this video than I learned from the entire course. Your wealth of knowledge is priceless!!!
GOAT
I bought a hinge release a couple months ago. I listen to this while I shoot in my garage at night. I’ve been shooting a bow for 18 years and I have finally experienced archery bliss! Shooting a bow the way you are explaining is an experience that is smooth, effortless and without anxiety. Griv, thank you so much. I hope I have a chance to see you in person at some point.
Thank you
I am glad to hear it's helping. Last Chance Archery and I have relaunched "Thing A Week" so keep your notifications on for new tips every week.
As a new adult archer, this presentation gives me a fantastic framework to begin building my archery skills. Thanks for a clear, concise, step-by-step plan.
Ignorance is bliss...i shot my best rounds when i was punching and i didnt know anything about back tension and target panic once someone got in my head and told me about back tension and target panic it ruined everything
Griv. I have been practicing in my garage 3 spot at 10 yards. Every time I’m getting 330’s w/HBX.
So the past week I’ve been practicing at 20 getting ready for the IAA Illinois State Aggregate Championship. This short distance perfect scores Brain Learning has worked its way into my subconscious, cramming my shot groups in X 70% and the remaking 10’s with an occasional 1-9.
And thank you for showing me how to make a torqueless loop.
This man is a national archery treasure. Single most amazing talk on execution I have ever seen. Thank you so much for posting this. I wish more people would discover this beautiful sport.
This is the best description of the TP and how to get rid of it. If you wanna learn something new, it is not about the equipment. Its about time and effort to make that change. And that is the same in every part of life. So thank you for this great presentation.
Sir you are an amazing Coach and a blessing for all the juniors archers (well any lucky enough to get your advice and help ). I want to send my son to you one day he's 7 and been shooting for 2yrs . thanks for the video from a Zimbabwean archer .
Excellent presentation. The coaching keys buried in here are pure gold, gained form practical experience. Will Watch this 50 more times, to make sure I did not miss a thing!
George this is the best explanation video I have ever seen. Thank you so much for the awesome work you do for archery . I wish we had people like you in Europe.
Absolute best video I have seen to help fix form flaws I didnt even know I had. Thanks GRIV!
George, I rarely leave comments but I feel really compelled to leave one for you.
From the way you explain archery and the techniques required to achieve a high level of success to the way you talk about dealing with kids and letting them deal with their dragons on their own, I just feel like you are not only a good coach but a very compassionate and aware human being.
Thank you for the work that you do.
George, this is the best talk I have every heard on the subject. Thank you for sharing. I recently got back into Archery and I am battling some habbits I developed as a youngster. The points you made will certainly help. I admire the work you and your organization are doing. Keep it up!
Brilliant stuff George, enjoyed the detailed explanantions. Thank you so much
Thanks griv, I think I really needed to see this! I've been trying to keep my wrist straight instead of embracing the bend. I'm loving this new form so far and now I don't feel like I'm pulling myself off the target as much, just more waiting for the shot to break naturally.
Thank you Mr. Ryals. That explains my major problem and I will start to work on it. One of the best information ever. I can't shoot the release because my hand is to stiff. Greetings from Germany.
Great stuff, thanks for sharing George
Thank you for sharing your expertise. I hope that I am able to retain and apply at least some of that for our JOAD program and my cub scouts.
EXCELLENT!!. Never had target panic until I switched to a release... I cured it by throwing it in the drawer and went back to fingers...and never looked back. Even though I know I could be more accurate with a release, I'm plenty accurate to get the job done, 100% of the time...yea bowhunter and not target archer so that makes it acceptable. really learned a lot, great lesson!..glad I stumbled onto your channel.
Thank you very much for this video. I really appreciate everything you share.
What a great teaching video I learned so much from it. I am going to bookmark it and watch it over and over and then practice practice practice.
Wow, thanks for this. Learned a ton...looking forward to more of these. 😎
Thank you George
Target panic to a tee never fully understood the whole effect until I watched another of your clips in a Facebook post which lead me here, I could not lift the pin into the Gold happened over time adjusted sight stab weights etc the harder I tried the low the pin seemed to get, resetting my shot steps lowering the rear shoulder before anchoring forgetting the release what a difference pin straight in the low gold. Proves my winter will be spent starting again to learn new habits
Thanks for sharing you knowledge
It is true if you talk about it , listen about it , research it…… you will get it. I never had it until i started all that. Maybe i didn’t realize… i dont know
Im glad you are there to help us . i have learned alot from you thanks
The best coach ever !!!
I love those guys. they keep me in business. that was great.
thanks you are the best archery teacher i have seen . thanks
Well done, I started about a year ago and I still didn't get this explanation as yours, thank you!
Great instructions. Keep up the great work....
Absolute gold dust - thank you
Always good instruction!!!
Good stuff Griv
My public comment has already been placed many and numerous times. An excellent insight into our frustrating sport!!... Please come to New Zealand!..
You are very good at what you do! It is very easy to connect and understand what you are trying to convey.excellent video
Thank You!
Full loss of control? Yup. That was me. Win a national level tournament, then everything just gets messed up. Started by punching a few shots, that led to not even being able to take my thumb off the peg. Then I could not even aim at a target. Take the target away, and I can pick out a single arrow hole, and I can make a perfect form shot. Put the target back up, my brain freaks out. Then the Covid break hits, I spent thousands of arrows at close range, and finally feel like I am coming out of it. Crazy how it happens. On top of your game one day, and then all of a sudden, you are at the bottom ready to sell everything.
Thanks for all of this info George, it does help.
Timberghost74 eventually, when steps are skipped, you’ll have to go back and pick them up when you need them most. There’s no shortcut. Follow the incremental procedure I laid out here and you’ll be well on your way to mastering the process as it should be. Don’t be afraid to mix methods a little. Braden Gellenthein did something similar but different. Dan McCarthy does something different as well, but they are all incremental with mastery at each level and you can’t skip steps. The root of the exercises are the same. Just the methods are different.
Great guy.. I like them.. 👍👌For me the best teacher..
Great George thanks!
Very cool video!! 👍👍
I need George to come coach me... Too much archery goodness.
Great information thank you
Thanks for this post. It is very usufull for me.
You are one smart dude.
Thank you.
Thank you for this training. I wished I would of had you the first time (very recently) I shot a bow. I was rushed from the safe room out to the lane and now I have lane panic. For one, the fellow beside me had a recurve, I have a compound, so he could shoot arrows so much faster. He was also much more experienced than me. Since you have a lane caller, I was lucky to get off one shot before time and in my haste, I had a misfire! Luckily no one was hurt as I am very safety consciousness and aim low, not high bringing the bow up. I know it's not the trainer's fault, they think that they are giving you confidence. However I think keeping a newbie in the safe room for a time would be better. It would of been for me. Also, I wished I would of been told to prepare for the force of these bows! It was like handing a person and 12 gauge shotgun and saying just aim and fire without warning of the kick back! lol Yanked me forward so hard, I did the two step. They thought I was doing a victory dance LOL
if you're shocked by the bow when it shoots, you're doing the right thing. Don't let your shot be a command shot or a pre guessed shot
@@jassonkhoo1223 Thank you, I shall relearn this immediately. It's hard on a called lane and I think this is part of my fear now and why I had an arrow misfire on me. Again causing fear as I have not been able to go back since.
The exception to the rule must have been Bob winning Vegas with a martin last year
Never experienced target panic. Wish I knew what it felt like... kind of feel out of the loop. I know its looked down upon but I command shoot with an index release or Mediterranean split finger draw with my compound. 27.5 inch draw with a release 28.5 - 29 inch draw with fingers using tabs and no sight or peep
Erm... Its true.. My release did fail and didnt shoot..
One of the springs was chewed up and in 5 pieces!
I first started on recurve, I was 46 years old I'm 51 now. My first 'coach' wasn't interested in the score or competition. He doesn't care about form as long as whatever I did, I do it consistently and safely.
I've changed archery clubs, there's 6 clubs in this town.
I've been shooting compound now for a couple of years. I'm now learning how to shoot properly.
Gold
Fantastic presentation. Brilliant advice. Wish you were over in the UK for more sessions like this. Keep up the good work.
All you guys gotta do is book a date. I'll be there.
If I was to get ready for an indoor season how should I prepare? Would you suggest 50 games at 7 or 10 yards, then another 50 at 15 yards and then move back to 20? Would you prepare the same for a field/FITA 50 meter season i.e. close up shooting? I’m willing to put in the tough work, I would just like a plan.
Exelent
Mr Ryals, this was an amazing (simple yet elegant analysis of shot execution) discussion. I immediately was able to improve part of my execution after making some wrist adjustments (allowed to let my wrist be more " loose").
Question: as I try to "retrain" my shot sequence, what other techniques or tricks do you suggest to keep my mind "looking (and thinking) forward"? I am just at the string tied to wooden grip stage, looking in mirror at forum and dry firing thumb release in my house. I am also getting a tension (currently use a thumb) release to work on this....
I get to beautiful draw, anchor in, float my imaginary sight (I have a red laser taped to my wooden handle)...right now I just float in on the wall and dont "pick a point" (ie not aiming at a bulls eye) and push-pull and squeeze shoulder blades....BUT I still find my mind "shifting back" to my release/elbow/pulling back motion and quit being focused on my red dot.
Should I turn off the red pointer?
How do I keep my mind "forward" on the target and not "thinking" about "ok, time to activate release"
Great video!
Thanks!
memorizing technique using the string, then move the feel to the bow and blank bale until you have good command of the technique. Next put up a target and shoot xs at 5 yards. Full effect, shoot 20 games at 5, 15 games at 10, 10 games at 15, and 5 games at 18. until you walk your way out to 20.
Thumbs up
I'm thinking about going away from pins
I am 37 and I can make or break a habit quickly depending on what I need to do.
Your brilliant
chad knutson thank you!
Everything i know and learned was on my own didn't have a clue what i was doin funny how it works one day you would almost think i was on pro circuit one min next first time i ever shot
At 24:30 I'm the hold the pin guy!
I shoot with one eye closed....and have found that when I close it, it seems to "trigger" my old habit of "aiming" and thus worrying about firing release
Dyna did you switch to both eyes open to cure it?
@@brianmincher716 no
I got it by reading about it so I don't know what you are talking about.
Been shooting nearly every day for 6 months and I'm still not even to the part where I'm hitting the bulls "a good bit." So frustrated.
tell me more. what steps have you walked through.
@@georgeryals I basically did everything wrong every step of the way getting started. I'm kind of a loner and have a hard time asking for help. I bought a bow on the internet, have NEVER been properly measured, have a wrecked left shoulder from a bike crash, am left-eye dominant but right handed, had a shop setup my first bow that clearly did not care about getting me setup correctly. I'm 6'5", have short arms for my height but really struggled with trying to squeeze myself into a 30" Bear Cruzer G2. So when I saw the chance to jump to a 38" one week-old Bear Revival, I jumped on it just before Xmas. So now I'm relearning a different string angle, and am working on finally getting correct anchor points, but I honestly need a professional to measure me and see what the hell is going on. One day, I'm shooting fairly well, the next, terrible. I'm not missing bales or anything that bad, but to me, the difference between 24 hours sometimes seems insurmountable. And also, just constant gear problems. I live in San Diego and our shop options are limited. I've been to all 3 in the county and have not seen the level of attention to detail paid to bow setups like you see here and with the guys at The Bow Rack. I'm half tempted to fly somewhere and get help but I've been absolutely bleeding money into archery now for 6 months.
@@georgeryals and I'm in it, deep. I'm obsessed. Watching all your videos as well as Dudley and Robert's as well. Probably information overload. I wake up in the middle of the night with terms I've just learned flying through my head. I've never applied myself to anything like this before in my life. It's certainly not from lack of effort or ambition.
@@georgeryals I figured it out. It took me months of frustration to find something a coach would have seen on my first shot. My draw length was too short and I couldn't get my elbow behind the pin. Sometimes it was pointing 30 degrees off to the right and I was angling my torso towards the target to compensate. I feel dumb but at least I know what I was doing wrong. Thank you for everything you do. Someday, I'll come visit.
@@ryaneberly799 awesome! it's alway a good feeling when you have a breakthrough no matter how long it takes. I can't fault anyone for not spotting it. it's always easier to see after you have found it. Archery coaching is half developing sight to spot things underneath the obvious and the other half is being able to interpret the whole picture and accurately decide what to work on and when to work on it.
What about releases that have a heavier trigger pull
flushot 09 those work too. That works great during the training. I used an extra heavy thumb trigger while I was working on myself.
I’ve tried a lot of his stuff not much results like holding low on a target I’ve tried all his techniques and played with draw length nothing fixes it
what are you working on right now? pin stuck low? or it starts in the middle and falls out as you try to shoot?
George Ryals pin stuck low
George Ryals I’ve played with draw length I watch how I draw in various of my my bow shoulder and elbow I just can’t get rid of this
@@jasonnester9514 maybe it's not draw length. Perhaps its how you approach your anchor. Look for the part about anchoring and "making the triagle bigger"
Wrong ima right hand shooter and I hit left
may be face contact with the string or arrow. That causes a left hit for a right handed shooter. (assuming everything else is correct)
Peep sights , 80% let off , caliper release........this is not archery
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