10,000 hour rule, is it enough to achieve mastery? - Coach Firas Zahabi

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  • @alex-poeppel
    @alex-poeppel 6 років тому +71

    I have been playing guitar since i was 8, practiced every day, took lessons, and eventually graduated from berklee college of music. I have put far more than 10000 hours into playing guitar, but I would not consider myself a master. Mastery is a lifelong journey, not a title to claim.

    • @JeffCfreeradiorevolution
      @JeffCfreeradiorevolution 6 років тому +6

      Alex Poeppel yeah... Dizzy Gillespie said it “Some days you get up and put the horn to your chops and it sounds pretty good and you win. Some days you try and nothing works and the horn wins. This goes on and on and then you die and the horn wins.”

    • @imawarrior313
      @imawarrior313 6 років тому +4

      Alex Poeppel "Mastery is a lifelong journey, not a title to claim" i really like this part. Do you mind if i use this as an inspirational quote with your name attached to it?

    • @alex-poeppel
      @alex-poeppel 6 років тому +2

      @@imawarrior313 Absolutely, thank you!

    • @imawarrior313
      @imawarrior313 6 років тому

      Alex Poeppel well no sir .. Thank YOU!

    • @icarus0206
      @icarus0206 6 років тому +1

      I WANT PROOF. SHOW ME SOME EXTREME AXE

  • @محمّد.09
    @محمّد.09 11 місяців тому +1

    This was very helpful

  • @thisisivanov
    @thisisivanov 5 років тому +7

    I've only recently discovered coach Zahabi's channel and all I can say is that the amount of the amazing insights that could be applied to one's life (even if not a MMA fighter) is simply amazing. Keep up the good content, sir!

  • @vxsios
    @vxsios 6 років тому +6

    I think self-reflection on the hours spent is ideally the path towards mastery. Either that or a coach reflects on things for you or with you and helps your progress

  • @ezralillasse2767
    @ezralillasse2767 6 років тому +14

    3:45 he said OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @G.I.Jojo707
    @G.I.Jojo707 6 років тому +5

    Stay mindful in all actions it becomes habit, habit becomes behavior. My Sensi says, "only Perfect Practice makes perfect"!

  • @mustafaibnabdullah6392
    @mustafaibnabdullah6392 6 років тому +3

    This is one of wisest things i have heard that can be used for every single thing in life. Specialy for me as a muslim, my salat is just poor quality but high quantity without any improvement for years.

  • @a0kca1p
    @a0kca1p 6 років тому +18

    Just for reference, the "10,000 Hour Rule" was popularized by Malcolm Gladwell in his book "Outliers," and it was primarily based on the research of Professor Anders Ericsson. However, Ericsson has come out to say that Gladwell somewhat misinterpreted his research. The 10,000 hours is not a "rule," but an average. That number was arrived at from, among other things, a study tracking the practice habits of child violinists through adulthood. But Ericsson notes many of the best musicians in his study had accumulated "substantially fewer" hours of practice. Also, just as Coach Zahabi notes, the quality of practice counts. Ericsson is a proponent of what he calls "deliberate practice" as being what's important, not just reps or time elapsed on the clock.

    • @Houcnc
      @Houcnc 3 роки тому +1

      Im sure Gladwell knew ,he said that to sell his book which he has

  • @markmondrinos7721
    @markmondrinos7721 6 років тому +43

    1,000 hours of purposeful high-quality practice trumps 10,000 hours of physical presence going through the motions. This stupid rule makes it seem like just putting in time is enough. Structure, quality of effort and constant progress are most important.

    • @alex-poeppel
      @alex-poeppel 6 років тому

      This is absolutely true!

    • @JonBjork
      @JonBjork 6 років тому +7

      Well, the "rule" is actually stating that it's 10 000 hours of Deliberate Practice which is the very highest form of practicing, not at all just logging the hours by rote. Read the original researchers book "Peak" (by Anders Ericsson) instead of the dumbed down version in "Outliers" by Gladwell. Most articles on the subject are really glib since it's based on the more click baity "10 000 hour rule" moniker that Gladwell put on it, Ericsson addresses this in his book how he never said it in that way even though the research pointed to around that same number of hours in several different pursuits. Again though the whole premise is based on deliberate practice, not just logging hours of going through the motions.

    • @charlesnguyen6510
      @charlesnguyen6510 4 роки тому

      yes sir!

    • @damanOts
      @damanOts 4 місяці тому

      Its amazing how many people are just completely unaware of this distinction

  • @BlackMaskq
    @BlackMaskq 6 років тому +3

    Years does not mean competency. You're right on about quality.

  • @DeadDiznee
    @DeadDiznee 6 років тому +6

    Thanks for the upload. Bit of an eye opener for me regarding too many sloppy reps.

  • @trollof229antthevariable9
    @trollof229antthevariable9 6 років тому +5

    I've actually been listening to a lot of you and George's philosophy on training. So I typically only give about 55-60% daily. I also follow Bruce Lee's principle of not training so hard that I woud be compromised if i had to defend myself shortly after because of the way that I am currentpy living.
    I am thebover training type though. So I really need to watch it.

    • @oluwaseyi07
      @oluwaseyi07 2 роки тому

      yo sorry but what was bruce lee’s training principle
      thanks 🙏🏻

  • @zambaratiko6352
    @zambaratiko6352 5 років тому

    Tjank you brother for the knowledge the insight. I work night shifts and listen to your podcast it make my njght go fast. Im already saving to bring my 2yrs old little boy to your gym when he reach the age you accept them

  • @mryouben
    @mryouben 6 років тому +3

    It was a research to find out what makes the difference between the 10 best violin players world wide and the rest top 100.
    The only difference they could find was that the top 10 had practiced 10.000 hours before the age of 20.

  • @TheDXJC56
    @TheDXJC56 4 роки тому

    I mean this probably seems like obvious advice but for me this is absolutely life changing advice for how I approach my workouts from now on, fuckin genius this guy here

  • @benny9794
    @benny9794 3 роки тому +1

    "I want as much quantity as possible without affecting my quality"

  • @stillnessinmovement
    @stillnessinmovement 6 років тому

    it's 5 years of full time work at something. this number is similar to what sport science says, which is it takes about 6 years to develop a gifted athlete into a top performer in a sport. I agree it's not an exact number, but it gets people the right idea. agree that quality of work is also just as important.

  • @Raumance
    @Raumance 6 років тому

    The example of 3 point shooting accuracy is surprisingly accurate for someone that doesn't know anything about it. 50% 3 point shot would be the absolute top of the league right, last I checked Steph Curry was 49.something% on 3 points. But that is in-game shooting most people will shoot significantly better in practice when you can shoot at your own pace with no one around.
    The training volume examples are also very accurate. Koby Bryant used to shoot 2-3 thousand made baskets everyday which would translate into 5-10 thousand tried baskets.

  • @LeonidThe90sKid
    @LeonidThe90sKid 6 років тому +1

    That's about 417 full days of doing something ( but without sleep, food or toilet breaks)

  • @Sweet_TRT
    @Sweet_TRT 5 років тому

    Priceless information. Thank you sir

  • @sabakimsg
    @sabakimsg 6 років тому +1

    I agree with the principle of quality of quantity. But I think practice should be more intentional and deliberate (hence the concept of deliberate practice). Every practice session should have some objective or goal. Practice should NEVER be passive or thoughtless. A basketball player should NEVER practice a shot without giving some thought to what he or she is doing (body mechanics, footwork, body positions, tempo, timing, rhythm, spacing, etc) This is also true with Jiujitsu or any skilled sport. In a game, competition or free play situation, the athlete shouldn't "think" about what he or she is doing; everything should be reflective and automatic. BUT in a PRACTICE it's a different story. You should think about everything you're doing in PRACTICE. Practice is the place where you WORK on things and CORRECT makes and FIGURE OUT things and make things SMOOTH/FLUID. That's why it is called PRACTICE. If you're not working on things or correcting mistakes or figuring things out or making things smooth and fluid you're not practicing!

  • @realmadrid-cx8yd
    @realmadrid-cx8yd 6 років тому +2

    Thar rule requires that you are talented

  • @Ecaba3
    @Ecaba3 6 років тому

    You (your mind/thoughts) are the conductor and your body is the orchestra.
    The human body is extremely malleable. Maybe that’s also what Bruce lee meant when he said “be like water”. It can change to many forms.
    Having said that, I believe that it is more important how and what you choose to learn than how long you learn for. So yeah quantity over quality.

  • @zivot92
    @zivot92 6 років тому

    Haha interesting aproach.. thank you for sharing the knowledge

  • @marcreyes7474
    @marcreyes7474 Рік тому +1

    Then, what about the fact that I do it wrong the first time? Just quit? Where’s the line here?

  • @ordinaryperson4862
    @ordinaryperson4862 4 роки тому

    pure gold!

  • @cainmorano4956
    @cainmorano4956 3 роки тому

    "Quit while you're ahead"

  • @theomen49
    @theomen49 6 років тому +2

    Coach, if you only train when you are winning and stop as soon as you stop doing well don't you run the risk of not being able to come back when you face adversity? Since you rarely experience having to work out of a losing situation like pushing through fatigue under side control, wouldn't it then be a problem if during a fight/match you lose a round and are unable to come back?

    • @ryanhill5676
      @ryanhill5676 6 років тому +3

      theomen49 : There is technique and technical training where you develop habits, then there is sparring to "quiz," explore and to examine if what you are doing is actually working, then there is competition which is the test.

  • @JOEY_TREN
    @JOEY_TREN 6 років тому

    Also maybe this philosophy of training is in line with yours. But in order to keep improving my shot I have to make the shots increasingly hard or otherwise I'll get worse. Meaning I have to take shots from tougher angles out of tough off the dribble sequences and deeper. Otherwise the interest and focus dies out. It allows for great creativity and doing things that haven't been done b4

    • @karimmalti
      @karimmalti Рік тому

      this is what he’s talking about when you reach a plateau, you have to make it more difficult so you can continue to improve

  • @JeffCfreeradiorevolution
    @JeffCfreeradiorevolution 6 років тому +1

    It depends on aptitude and how you use your practice time. Btw.. Wilt Chamberlain was terrible at free throws (many Nba stars are). He tried everything including hiring a psychiatrist... some people reach limits... practicing with bad habits is a no-no!

    • @brianduynguyen
      @brianduynguyen 6 років тому

      Actually not true. When he shot his free throws underhand, they were very accurate (including his 100 pt game). Except he stopped cause he felt like a sissy using the technique. You can read more here: www.si.com/nba/2016/06/30/malcolm-gladwell-wilt-chamberlain-rick-barry-nba-free-throw-granny-shot

  • @leonex606
    @leonex606 5 років тому

    so I was doing a simple math If I do 2 hours of jiujitsu for example 3 times a week I will do in a year around 288 hours, and what you need to get to black belt (mastery in my opinion) is around 2880 hours. that's not much. every one can do it with consistency.

  • @OGFITNESS
    @OGFITNESS 6 років тому

    Super interesting!

  • @EPSTomcat11
    @EPSTomcat11 6 років тому

    Coach, any info on the new TimTam ? Asking for a potential xmas present

  • @pierrebridenne8870
    @pierrebridenne8870 5 років тому +1

    Hi ! First excuse me for my poor english I'm French.
    When you talk about stopping when the quality drops, I see the logic on it but when you begin you have no quality at all and you are out of breath before the end of the first sparring partner.
    When you begin Jiujitsu , to improve Bjj cardio Should we force and continue even if we are exhausted and out of breath?

    • @Sweet_TRT
      @Sweet_TRT 5 років тому

      Pierre Bridenne do less, but more often. Don’t overtrain twice or three times a week. Train less over more days and it will amount to more quality values learnt

  • @joserezende102
    @joserezende102 6 років тому

    Thank you for the the vídeo

  • @slixx008
    @slixx008 6 років тому

    1000 hours or 100,000 hours. You get to there, when you get there.

  • @adamkelb
    @adamkelb 6 років тому

    I dont think you can fully master anything because of age. Someone who has done for example BJJ for 20 years, will usually be beaten technically by someone who has done it for 30 years, and that guy will be beaten by someone who has done it for 40 years... age limits mastery but the closest you can get to mastery is by beginning something at a Young age and working on it till the age where your body can still work well enough.

  • @toasty7408
    @toasty7408 5 років тому

    Isn’t it 10000 hours of good deliberate practise? That’s what I always heard

  • @cesaralvesdemoraes3187
    @cesaralvesdemoraes3187 6 років тому

    Don't you need to experience getting beat up too? Or else when you fight once things stop going your way you won't know what to do

  • @yzodelgado6735
    @yzodelgado6735 5 років тому

    What if you do 10k hrs of something wrongly.?

  • @majkieltv2112
    @majkieltv2112 5 років тому

    10 000 hours if you train 4 x 1.5 h a week it's 34 years :o

  • @successfulinternetpsycholo7685
    @successfulinternetpsycholo7685 6 років тому

    Always wondered this. I keep hearing you have to roll till you are tired then when you roll you will be using pure technique and not speed and strength. I think this isn’t an intelligent way of training. Not only have you physically fatigued yourself but you have mentally fatigued and it makes it harder to absorb information.
    It’s better to have a plan for your workout and focus on quality of your training.

  • @JOEY_TREN
    @JOEY_TREN 6 років тому

    Like Riddick said shoot til it feels good. Btw I'M THE GREATEST 3PT SHOOTER IN THE WORLD. Js

  • @adisucipto5386
    @adisucipto5386 6 років тому +8

    87%...Firas > Stephen Curry😂

    • @dickpiano1802
      @dickpiano1802 6 років тому +2

      Adi Sucipto He specifically said he knew nothing about basketball so take whatever he’s saying as theoretical

    • @adisucipto5386
      @adisucipto5386 6 років тому

      @@dickpiano1802 yeah man i mean no harm on it

  • @abdullahbinabbas8965
    @abdullahbinabbas8965 4 роки тому

    10,000 hours is like 8 hours a day for 3-4 years. Not much imo.

  • @tpolo2050
    @tpolo2050 3 роки тому

    10,000 hrs. Is nothing but 416.6666 days

  • @williammonk1020
    @williammonk1020 6 років тому

    I don't believe in the 10,000 hour rule. It's too suspicious that mastery would just happen to be attained at such a perfect number.

  • @billygooze7886
    @billygooze7886 3 роки тому

    @Ben Simmons

  • @MonacoRocha
    @MonacoRocha 4 роки тому

    Not True..