Very useful and good explanation. I use manual WB in the woods when I want to create a more autumn like picture. But the thunksten tip for city photography I will try that soon!
Concur. Good practical examples, scenes and settings covering both photos and videos, jpg and raw images, and even some creative uses for camera WB settings. This should give anyone who's maybe not been quite sure about what white balance means and does a very solid background and understanding on the subject. Well done.
Good food for thought and discussion Peter, well done. I'd like to add a few random points. When you choose something in Super Control Panel, you don't have to press Ok to confirm if you prefer not to. A half press of the shutter release will also confirm save the change. Next, subjective white balance vs objective (neutral) white balance - there is an objectively measured white balance but the photographer can choose to warm or cool a scene subjectively. When I got my body with the Color Creator feature, when I am shooting a scene where I want a subjective white balance, I don't even bother with the white balance, I just dial in the color I want. Our cameras allow so much playing, unlike the film days
Hello from USA. Thank you Peter for sharing your knowledge with the world. I am still a novice but having fun with learning new skills through your videos. Very instructive. I have an E-M10 camera and I am still learning how to use it. I have the standard pancake lens and the 45mm prime lens for it. I also purchased an old Cannon lens with an adapter. I am having fun with it. Do you have any tutorials for this?
Great video 👏🏼 José María Mellado (an famous spanish photographer) says that he always choose de AWB on the camera. He says that this way he avoids the dominant ones of magenta and green color, and thus only the temperature of color has to be corrected. Who knows, rigth? Thanks!
I shoot only RAW and normally set the WB to 5500 to have the biggest range for correction in post processing - unless the color tone is to annoying on the EVF or LCD screen.
It is because the real temperature of the surroundings is higher than the value you set to your camera. For example if the Kelvins are 5500K. Then you tell the camera that it is 3300K, the image will have a blue cast. If you tell in the same situation the camera that the kelvins are 10000K, your image will have a yellow cast.
@@ForsgardPeter Thanks for the reply. This will definitely help me get the "correct" color I am looking for. I will have to think more about it for a while before I'm fully comfortable as so far most of my gigs are in the studio where I set the WB to the flash temp.
About fine tuning the WB, what do you mean with "a color that is sticking out"? Are the peaks of that color histogram more to the right or are the peaks higher?
@@ForsgardPeter It's obvious because it’s about temperature of light but on the contrary the underrepresentation of some colors will also be interesting concerning white balance.
I bought the Olympus OM-D E-M10 MKIII for my wife, and the most frustrating thing is its apparent lack of manual white balance, and inability to update firmware.
You can find the manual White Balance settings from the Special Menu F. Its the last option in the WB menu. Firmware can be upgraded, the latest upgrade is from may 2018 for the E-M10 MKIII
hi Peter, thanks for your videos, they are very informative and useful. Please if you dont mind, may i give you some comments. I think your intro to the video is too long, not only in this video but also for some others. Sometimes having more than 2 minutes intro but still yet to get into the key points is a bit too long for me. See if you agree, thanks!
The MOST important thing you mentioned about white balance and anything else in photography is at 6 minutes and 54 seconds..EXPERIMENT...Everyone has to get outside,go places,move your feet,and shoot,shoot,and shoot,in all conditions possible.We have to learn our cameras learn from mistakes,and sometimes we need these mistakes.You can have whatever camera,and it can have 600 settings,you can have 600 lenses,you can have $6000 body,and it will all be a total waste of time if you do not know how to adapt,adjust,and create great images IN CAMERA..When we only had film that's what we did,and it worked for decades and nothing has changed.I work a lot in the skating rink,and shoot at night,in places to eat,and under some horrific lighting which is all over the place,so i took the time to shoot,look,and with deductive reasoning,make the adjustments according to those changes i can make with my particular camera,shooting in RAW/JPEG.Good tutorial...
I know that ALL THINGS are related in photography, but is this color temp? Ok, I see he mentioned that! I hate how my friends new ipad takes warm, sexy pics and my EM-5 looks sterile and clinical. I know the ipad is, by default, set up to work well in most lighting, but I expect my camera to take "better" snaps... ok, I know it's ME who needs to learn my camera, but it's not fair dammit! :)
EM-5 does take better snaps than an iPad. Photos taken with the iPad looks quite on when viewed on iPad. If you want you can use Olympus factory settings and set the Keep the Warm colors.
Very useful and good explanation. I use manual WB in the woods when I want to create a more autumn like picture. But the thunksten tip for city photography I will try that soon!
Pretty good coverage of a difficult subject. Nice work.
Thanks!
Concur. Good practical examples, scenes and settings covering both photos and videos, jpg and raw images, and even some creative uses for camera WB settings. This should give anyone who's maybe not been quite sure about what white balance means and does a very solid background and understanding on the subject. Well done.
Tak Peter, you have really helped me with WB here.
Glad that the video was helpful!
Good food for thought and discussion Peter, well done. I'd like to add a few random points. When you choose something in Super Control Panel, you don't have to press Ok to confirm if you prefer not to. A half press of the shutter release will also confirm save the change.
Next, subjective white balance vs objective (neutral) white balance - there is an objectively measured white balance but the photographer can choose to warm or cool a scene subjectively. When I got my body with the Color Creator feature, when I am shooting a scene where I want a subjective white balance, I don't even bother with the white balance, I just dial in the color I want.
Our cameras allow so much playing, unlike the film days
Very helpful video and will be trying to choose more appropriate white balance from now on. Thank you for your time and time.
Thanks.
I've seen that bridge before in a video for VFX camera tracking
Thanks Peter, important topic and easy to understand. With the mirror as well, you look like you live in a house full of doors......
Hello from USA. Thank you Peter for sharing your knowledge with the world. I am still a novice but having fun with learning new skills through your videos. Very instructive. I have an E-M10 camera and I am still learning how to use it. I have the standard pancake lens and the 45mm prime lens for it. I also purchased an old Cannon lens with an adapter. I am having fun with it. Do you have any tutorials for this?
If you check out my videos from last summer you will find two videos about vintage lenses and adapters.
Great video 👏🏼 José María Mellado (an famous spanish photographer) says that he always choose de AWB on the camera. He says that this way he avoids the dominant ones of magenta and green color, and thus only the temperature of color has to be corrected. Who knows, rigth? Thanks!
Thanks. Thats one way of getting the WB right.
your photo instructionals are very good
Thank you.
I shoot only RAW and normally set the WB to 5500 to have the biggest range for
correction in post processing - unless the color tone is to annoying on the EVF
or LCD screen.
That is some good adwise.
If a lower Kelvin number is more reddish why do I get a blue cast when I set the WB lower?
It is because the real temperature of the surroundings is higher than the value you set to your camera. For example if the Kelvins are 5500K. Then you tell the camera that it is 3300K, the image will have a blue cast. If you tell in the same situation the camera that the kelvins are 10000K, your image will have a yellow cast.
@@ForsgardPeter Thanks for the reply. This will definitely help me get the "correct" color I am looking for. I will have to think more about it for a while before I'm fully comfortable as so far most of my gigs are in the studio where I set the WB to the flash temp.
In most cases outdoors AutoWB works just fine.
About fine tuning the WB, what do you mean with "a color that is sticking out"? Are the peaks of that color histogram more to the right or are the peaks higher?
More to the right.
@@ForsgardPeter It's obvious because it’s about temperature of light but on the contrary the underrepresentation of some colors will also be interesting concerning white balance.
Hey Peter
What Backpack is that you are using please
It is the Olympus CBG-12. kit.com/PeterF/my-camera-gear-i-use/olympus-backpack-cbg
Your intro is really cool😀
I bought the Olympus OM-D E-M10 MKIII for my wife, and the most frustrating thing is its apparent lack of manual white balance, and inability to update firmware.
You can find the manual White Balance settings from the Special Menu F. Its the last option in the WB menu. Firmware can be upgraded, the latest upgrade is from may 2018 for the E-M10 MKIII
Thank you.
hi Peter, thanks for your videos, they are very informative and useful. Please if you dont mind, may i give you some comments. I think your intro to the video is too long, not only in this video but also for some others. Sometimes having more than 2 minutes intro but still yet to get into the key points is a bit too long for me. See if you agree, thanks!
Thank you and yes I did think about the lenght of the beginning. I agree, it turned out to be a bit too long.
The MOST important thing you mentioned about white balance and anything else in photography is at 6 minutes and 54 seconds..EXPERIMENT...Everyone has to get outside,go places,move your feet,and shoot,shoot,and shoot,in all conditions possible.We have to learn our cameras learn from mistakes,and sometimes we need these mistakes.You can have whatever camera,and it can have 600 settings,you can have 600 lenses,you can have $6000 body,and it will all be a total waste of time if you do not know how to adapt,adjust,and create great images IN CAMERA..When we only had film that's what we did,and it worked for decades and nothing has changed.I work a lot in the skating rink,and shoot at night,in places to eat,and under some horrific lighting which is all over the place,so i took the time to shoot,look,and with deductive reasoning,make the adjustments according to those changes i can make with my particular camera,shooting in RAW/JPEG.Good tutorial...
I know that ALL THINGS are related in photography, but is this color temp? Ok, I see he mentioned that! I hate how my friends new ipad takes warm, sexy pics and my EM-5 looks sterile and clinical. I know the ipad is, by default, set up to work well in most lighting, but I expect my camera to take "better" snaps... ok, I know it's ME who needs to learn my camera, but it's not fair dammit! :)
EM-5 does take better snaps than an iPad. Photos taken with the iPad looks quite on when viewed on iPad. If you want you can use Olympus factory settings and set the Keep the Warm colors.