From someone whos still stuck in his roguerogue.com days this was a nice break down to bring it all back to perspective. Appreciate the video. Keep it up.
Finally. Nice job dude! I really liked the 2v2 and 3v3 Talent breakdown visual! THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THE ARMOR PEN DEBUFF SHADOW DAMAGE. Love your videos man!
Thanks for taking the time to make this guide Pika. Would love to see a series of 0-2400, going from scratch, what you need to know as a rogue going into arena, what you need to do to perform well as a rogue, what to look out for, how best to cc, which targets to choose, how to play double deeps and heals deeps comps and so forth. Mayne ironman it and do it on a fresh rogue?:O Happy new years in advance!
ur the only reason i play rogue and got 2.4k on 3s! i was just a noob who just rellied on his opener. amazing videos my young friend keep up the good work! Cheers!
This is an awesome video. As much as i love watching you play in Arena, having you go through your setup and your thoughts behind it is so so helpful. Few things i would love to see : 1: How to counter certain classes 2: Thinks like specific addons and your thoughts on why you use them 3: Macro binds etc. Thank you for this video !!
That you put your opener at the end earned you a like. Everyone who puts out these tutorials on any class only talks about talents and all that, which is great, but I like to see how they actually play.
Great guide from the GOAT rogue himself. Another point to the Talent tree and why Enveloping Shadows is so good is the synergy it has with Premeditation and with Soothing Darkness (for 2v2)
it really is an overrated useless choice, its just prolonging the inevitable. It's only chosen because the majority of C.D users don't know how to properly manage their energy with Elusiveness
Feedback: Maybe include your macros and some counter strats against some of the best metas? I definitely think that would be a guide to how Pikaboo wins arena, not just as a rogue! Thanks for the advice #1 rogue!
Great job explaining the talents + great video. I liked the way you explain it and then break it down so that we understand it easier. I just became a new subscriber. Keep up the good work. I look forward to watching more videos from you.
since you can switch talents before the match starts you can switch to shot in the dark, go stealth, switch talents and gain shot in the dark for your opener while still having prey the weak
@@Jonathan-kj8wx well everybody starts as a beginner sometime and this will help a lot to focus on the more important things. I personally never hit it to the end of it but to get a quick sap opener it's really good
I leveled my rogue and started to look for a video for a few pointers, saw Pika with a video, seach over. One of if not the best rogue in the world puts out a video, you watch it.
14:29 slight correction, it says shadow dance dmg NOW increases dmg 30%, because by default shadow dance already increases dmg by 15%, so it is indeed only a 15% increase not a 30% increase. But it's not because it's nerfed from 30 to 15 in pvp, it's also just 15% in pve.
This is really well done mah dude! For your first time especially. I think the only thing I can think of is 'showing' us, via clips from your stream or even against a target dummy, what it looks like and then slow it down so you can break down exactly what's happening. Maybe talk about comps for higher elo and how you would play against them? Just spit-balling. But for the general stat/talent/ability/opener kind of vid, you nailed it!
Its especially useful in 2v2 since you aren't using subterfuge and you can get more restealths there. In 3v3 I think recuperator might be better because of less restealths but not sure.
2 things I'd love to see... 1) Commentary of your arena games both wins and loses where you can pause and rewind the clips - and - 2) What to look out for against other classes and how to counter their core abilities
Pika, awesome vid man I look forward to more content like this. Something I think there is a severe lack of content on is comp strats - would love some in depth strategy vids (especially for RMP) discussing your openers, strats vs different comps, etc. Cheers man keep it up
Really great video, would love to see match reviews of your own or viewers so we can see what you're thinking in those scramble situations where you don't kill in opener! Good stuff!
Great info. Thanks a ton. Especially for disecting why certain talents are better. The biggest issue I'm having as a sub rogue is who to CC and when? I only run 2's, generally with a mage friend, and we are having issues knowing who to sap, blind, sheep and when.
Awesome video! Just started a sub rogue last week, coming from WoW vanilla. Very helpful video, going to test out the talent swap in arena. Keep it up man
Great video.. what I really need is how to set up my keyboard mouse to be efficient at CC'ing arena1,2 targets as second nature. How to kidney shot->shadow dance-> sap targets and stuff
Nice vid. What I'd really want to see else is detailed guides for 1v1 with different classes with their cooldowns, like what to live/kite through, and when to burst. I specifically have problems with Shadow Priests as I don't really get when they take like 0 dmg and when they are ready to die.
awsome guide man ! on the opener i wouldve wished to see one on a target dummy also with multiple opener options for example if you dont have ER up or dont have a Skulkers. more content like this pls !
Here is how you get gladiator: Use machine learning techniques to globally optimize pseudo-AI with no human error and bot yourself to glad every season. Except blizz has ToS which will get you banned for botting, so instead, you throw out the bot and save the optimized input/output mapping and create and addon ("Arena Coach" maybe?) that displays the outputs into a readable form for the user, giving them their best play at all times during the ever-changing inputs of the arena match. Inputs would of course include everything from cds/timers to player positioning. And since the game will undoubtedly follow some non-linear dynamics, we can know that the time frames for executing the optimal play will be wide enough as to make the output display coherent. That's what I did anyways, good luck guys.
Xar never disappoints, thanks a lot man
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Hey xaryu, thankful guys here
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Big fan Xar, keep it up buddy.
Thanks Xar, love the content
From someone whos still stuck in his roguerogue.com days this was a nice break down to bring it all back to perspective. Appreciate the video. Keep it up.
Finally. Nice job dude! I really liked the 2v2 and 3v3 Talent breakdown visual! THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THE ARMOR PEN DEBUFF SHADOW DAMAGE. Love your videos man!
Most professional and entertaining at the same time. The most engaging and best Warcraft youtuber. Just subscribed
Love the UA-cam-Pika style, hope we get more vids like this every now and then.
Top class guide Xar!! Mage next?
Thanks for this! Would love another guide talking about general gameplay fundamentals for rogue.
Dude thank you. I came back after a six year hiatus and just these talents alone make sub so enjoyable.
Awesome work explaining your reasons for choosing to run with certain talents and conduits. Very informative. Thanks for posting it!
Thanks for posting the steps for your opener. Very cool. Also the discussion on conduits was insightful.
Thanks for taking the time to make this guide Pika. Would love to see a series of 0-2400, going from scratch, what you need to know as a rogue going into arena, what you need to do to perform well as a rogue, what to look out for, how best to cc, which targets to choose, how to play double deeps and heals deeps comps and so forth. Mayne ironman it and do it on a fresh rogue?:O Happy new years in advance!
ur the only reason i play rogue and got 2.4k on 3s! i was just a noob who just rellied on his opener. amazing videos my young friend keep up the good work! Cheers!
This is an awesome video. As much as i love watching you play in Arena, having you go through your setup and your thoughts behind it is so so helpful. Few things i would love to see :
1: How to counter certain classes
2: Thinks like specific addons and your thoughts on why you use them
3: Macro binds etc.
Thank you for this video !!
Unique guide. Talents and mechanics explained in a level of detail that you cant find in other guides.
That you put your opener at the end earned you a like. Everyone who puts out these tutorials on any class only talks about talents and all that, which is great, but I like to see how they actually play.
Great guide from the GOAT rogue himself.
Another point to the Talent tree and why Enveloping Shadows is so good is the synergy it has with Premeditation and with Soothing Darkness (for 2v2)
Great job man. Nice to see something different. Super helpful, thanks!
Nice Guide Xaryu! Pikaboo should watch this
Next step: a guide on how to positioning and use CC in arenas as a rogue. Great video, man! GGs! THE MOVE!
Like how you explained the practical reasons behind picking the talents and powers. Tnx for the guide, i hope you keep up.
pika trying to convince his rogue stream snipers to stop taking cheat death xD
LOL thought the same
it really is an overrated useless choice, its just prolonging the inevitable. It's only chosen because the majority of C.D users don't know how to properly manage their energy with Elusiveness
Feedback: Maybe include your macros and some counter strats against some of the best metas? I definitely think that would be a guide to how Pikaboo wins arena, not just as a rogue! Thanks for the advice #1 rogue!
he doesn't need macros or addons. are you kidding
Thank you so much for this. I was a 2650 rogue seasons ago & now I’m struggling to adapt to Shadowlands. Appreciate it ❤️
Nice! Was rlly helpful i hit challanger in LoL after the guide! thanks a lot man keep it up
Great job explaining the talents + great video. I liked the way you explain it and then break it down so that we understand it easier. I just became a new subscriber. Keep up the good work. I look forward to watching more videos from you.
since you can switch talents before the match starts you can switch to shot in the dark, go stealth, switch talents and gain shot in the dark for your opener while still having prey the weak
Thanks so much man! Best guide I've seen on rogue pvp so far!
@Pikabooirl this is exactly what i needed. thank you! you saved the wow forums from more questions
Honest, blunt and to the point. Great job.
My man, thanks for putting in the work! I appreciate the fact that you give a breakdown on every decision you make.
Great video Pika. Hope to see more from you! Keep up
Awesome video man, cool to see you making this!
Always helpful pika! Ive been Watching your stream for years and got really excited to see your vid pop on my youtube
Nothing but love and support. Top tier Rogue content
Nicelyy Doneeee, We need more videos like this!!
perfect opener for all
Cast sequence macro is bad. May work at low cr but won't help you learn the class at a higher rating
@@Jonathan-kj8wx well everybody starts as a beginner sometime and this will help a lot to focus on the more important things. I personally never hit it to the end of it but to get a quick sap opener it's really good
Awesome video! Definitely helped me refine some quirks I was missing and I can already see the difference in my gameplay.
I leveled my rogue and started to look for a video for a few pointers, saw Pika with a video, seach over. One of if not the best rogue in the world puts out a video, you watch it.
Much appreciate the video, nice to have a detailed look thru ur point of view. I stuck with kyrian as well. Cheers man!!!
New rogue player here. Very simple and clear explanation. Thank you.
14:29 slight correction, it says shadow dance dmg NOW increases dmg 30%, because by default shadow dance already increases dmg by 15%, so it is indeed only a 15% increase not a 30% increase. But it's not because it's nerfed from 30 to 15 in pvp, it's also just 15% in pve.
Thx My Guyyyy! Awesome video glad you made it bro.
OH MY GOD the holy grail
i bet u dont got glad after all that basic informations u could just google since 3 months
Great video Xar, keep it positive!
Amazing guide helps a ton and good explanation on everything you went through especially the talents and which situation to use them
Great video as usual mate, keep these coming as the updates and patches come.
You can transmog the weapons to anything. Have both daggers and can trans both to fist weapons or two swords.
Dude you're actually really good at explaining things. Thanks for the vid it's helped me a lot
That was very informative! Thanks for putting time doing this video :D
This is really well done mah dude! For your first time especially. I think the only thing I can think of is 'showing' us, via clips from your stream or even against a target dummy, what it looks like and then slow it down so you can break down exactly what's happening. Maybe talk about comps for higher elo and how you would play against them? Just spit-balling. But for the general stat/talent/ability/opener kind of vid, you nailed it!
The cloaked in shadows conduit is amazing. It makes DoTs of any kind much easier to work with since you get like a 4k-5k shield each time you stealth.
Its especially useful in 2v2 since you aren't using subterfuge and you can get more restealths there. In 3v3 I think recuperator might be better because of less restealths but not sure.
@@spookyturbo1618 yeah I could see that being possible. Will have to do some testing.
2 things I'd love to see... 1) Commentary of your arena games both wins and loses where you can pause and rewind the clips - and - 2) What to look out for against other classes and how to counter their core abilities
This is a really detailed guide, such a huge help keep this content coming!
One of the better class guides i've watched! So youre doing not too shabby for your first one haha
pika is good at what he does. great video!
Much appreciated haven’t played my rogue since draenor looking to get some pvp achievements this time around this definitely is gonna help 🤘
Thanks for the guide xar, thanks to you Iost 80 LBs and hit glad. Keep up the good work
nice, i was hoping for this!! thumbs up!!
Another great video, keep it up Xar!
Nice tutorial Xar this helped me so much I now do more damage as fire mage
Pika, awesome vid man I look forward to more content like this. Something I think there is a severe lack of content on is comp strats - would love some in depth strategy vids (especially for RMP) discussing your openers, strats vs different comps, etc. Cheers man keep it up
Great content man.
Keep doing your thing!
Huge thanks! Awesome guide man!
Really great video, would love to see match reviews of your own or viewers so we can see what you're thinking in those scramble situations where you don't kill in opener! Good stuff!
Great info. Thanks a ton. Especially for disecting why certain talents are better.
The biggest issue I'm having as a sub rogue is who to CC and when? I only run 2's, generally with a mage friend, and we are having issues knowing who to sap, blind, sheep and when.
Awesome video! Just started a sub rogue last week, coming from WoW vanilla. Very helpful video, going to test out the talent swap in arena. Keep it up man
Wow Pika made a rogue guide? LETS GOOOOOOOOOO BOYS! Thanks Pika, much appreciated my dude!
Great video.. what I really need is how to set up my keyboard mouse to be efficient at CC'ing arena1,2 targets as second nature. How to kidney shot->shadow dance-> sap targets and stuff
/castsequence [@focus] reset=3 Kopfnuss, null
/castsequence [@target] reset=10 Kaltblütigkeit(PvP-Talent), Schattenklingen, Schattenschritt, Fieser Trick, Schattentanz, Symbole des Todes, Widerhallender Tadel(Kyrianer), Ausweiden, Todesurteil, Ausweiden
it was a great guide and thank you for sharing your knowledge it was and is much appreciated, awesome vids by the way
I would be curious to hear how you have some of your keybinds set up
Big fan keep it up man ! Also love your workout streams :)
Thanks for the info man much needed sub rogue arena guide.
Nice vid. What I'd really want to see else is detailed guides for 1v1 with different classes with their cooldowns, like what to live/kite through, and when to burst. I specifically have problems with Shadow Priests as I don't really get when they take like 0 dmg and when they are ready to die.
Much love, bro, this guide is just perfect.
This is amazing man, love your vids
Awesome video, keep going with these!
Awesome! Would love for you to do more Arena breakdown videos. Seen a couple of them here and they are awesome. Keep it up Xar!
awsome guide man ! on the opener i wouldve wished to see one on a target dummy also with multiple opener options for example if you dont have ER up or dont have a Skulkers. more content like this pls !
XARYU this was amazing video helped alot thanks
amazing guide, please stay on youtube more, love it
Hot damn , a pikaboo guide ! Let me watch , giving a like simply because its fun and interesting that you did one!!
Great guide Xaryu!
Great information! Thanks for taking the time
Holy shit is it really a guide never thought he would do it “just watch my stream that’s the guide” “pikaboo”
I think GG made him do it lol
my theory is he's had it with the repeating questions
now he can say 'go watch the guide, links in the description my man' :D
@@senta52 lmao trueee
I literally asked him for advice yesterday and that's exactly what he said.
That's such a lazy ass mentality honestly it would errk me when he says that. I'm glad he did this been wayyyy overdue
Love the content xar!!! Ye-ye-ye-yeah!!!
Really nice video man! Altho I would have wanted to hear more about rotation/ability priority... Until next time ;)
Here is how you get gladiator: Use machine learning techniques to globally optimize pseudo-AI with no human error and bot yourself to glad every season. Except blizz has ToS which will get you banned for botting, so instead, you throw out the bot and save the optimized input/output mapping and create and addon ("Arena Coach" maybe?) that displays the outputs into a readable form for the user, giving them their best play at all times during the ever-changing inputs of the arena match. Inputs would of course include everything from cds/timers to player positioning. And since the game will undoubtedly follow some non-linear dynamics, we can know that the time frames for executing the optimal play will be wide enough as to make the output display coherent. That's what I did anyways, good luck guys.
I was looking for a mage guide in a long time!
finally! waited so long for the guide from u
Awesome Vid Pika!!!
Hell yeah brotha. This is huge. The master has revealed the first page in the book.
Great stuff Xar, thought you'd make the guide for the mage first but hey this is okay too .
Keep going Bro! Learned a lot from your Videos and streams!
Love it man, keep it going - u the best!
Love your vids mate. Would love to see your opener rotations, button and macro setup.
This has great value. Thanks a lot!
Just waited for something like this dude, thanks alot