ROCKY MARCIANO the Untold Truth - 12 Mind-Blowing Facts Revealed!
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- Step into the ring and embark on an extraordinary journey into the life of Rocky Marciano with this captivating video. Explore 12 amazing facts that illuminate the story of this legendary heavyweight boxing champion. From his humble beginnings in Brockton, Massachusetts, to his rise to stardom, you'll discover the remarkable achievements that made Marciano an icon in the world of boxing.
Uncover the secrets behind Marciano's unbeaten record, as he triumphed in all 49 of his professional fights. Learn about his incredible knockout power and the sheer determination that propelled him to victory. Dive into his training regimen, which included grueling workouts and an unwavering commitment to excellence.
Delve into the intense rivalries Marciano faced, including his legendary bouts with Joe Louis, Jersey Joe Walcott, and Ezzard Charles. Witness the sheer intensity and drama of these historic matchups as Marciano solidified his status as one of the greatest boxers of all time.
Beyond the ring, explore the lesser-known aspects of Marciano's life, such as his retirement at the height of his career and his transition into other endeavors. Discover his entrepreneurial spirit as he ventured into business and became an actor in Hollywood.
With rare archival footage and expert analysis, this video offers a comprehensive and thrilling exploration of Rocky Marciano's life and legacy. Whether you're a devoted boxing fan or simply fascinated by remarkable individuals, this video will leave you in awe of Marciano's indomitable spirit and unparalleled accomplishments.
Prepare to be captivated by the remarkable journey of Rocky Marciano. Join us as we unveil the 12 amazing facts that shaped the career of this boxing legend. Get ready to experience the triumphs, the setbacks, and the enduring legacy of a true sporting icon. This video is a knockout for anyone seeking inspiration, adrenaline, and the untold stories of a boxing legend. Don't miss out on this epic exploration of the life and achievements of Rocky Marciano. Lace up your gloves and get ready to be amazed!
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Rocky pounded you relentlessly.....endless cardio, endless fury, all champion
The International Boxing Club Of New York was the dominant promotional power in boxing. It controlled the sport at Madison Square Garden and other major arenas. It had contracts for regularly-scheduled fights on the emerging medium of television. And it had links to organized crime; most notably through Italian Mafia soldier Frankie Carbo, the most powerful promoter in boxing. “Carbo,” Russell Sullivan explains, “established a well-organized centralized system of control over boxing. The system featured scores of managers who operated as front men for Carbo. Once a promising fighter arrived on the scene, one of Carbo’s managers would muscle in on his ownership. Fear and violence were the linchpins of Carbo’s system and the bedrock of his power. Directly or indirectly, he controlled scores of judges, officials, managers, promoters, and fighters. His power became such that no big match was made or title awarded without his acquiescence."
Teddy Brenner, who worked for Al Weill in the late-1940s and subsequently became president of Madison Square Garden Boxing, later acknowledged, “Carbo had his fingers on the throat of boxing. If he did not own a certain fighter, he owned the manager. Weill was a boxing politician who held hands with the mob. When Weill was Marciano’s manager, he was controlled by Carbo.” In May 1949, Weill became the matchmaker for the International Boxing Club. That meant Marciano could fight against carefully chosen opponents when and where Weill wanted. Marciano wasn’t the first fighter to be moved by people of influence. Nor will he be the last.
Enormous criminal empires had been built on the supply of illegal liquor during the Prohibition era. Italian Al Capone’s the most infamous among them. When prohibition came to an end in 1933, after more than a decade of lucrative and bloody endeavour for the Mob, they needed something new. Access to the machinery of boxing, a wilfully unfettered anarchy proved remarkably easy to acquire. Boxing was now fertile ground for the Mafia. The Italian mob controlled it all, from the trainers and managers to the reporting journalists, with a combination of intimidation and financial backing ensuring everybody the mob wanted was under their control. The only loyalty the Sicilian mob had was to money. The son of an Italian immigrant Rocco Francis Marchegiano a.k.a. Rocky Marciano was being robbed and there was nothing he could do about it. The entire eastern seaboard was Italian, it was all Italian. Even the commissioner of boxing was Italian. Al Weill, Rocky's underworld manager and matchmaker at the Garden took 50% and all ticket sales which pushed it closer to 60%. Marciano had no choice but to comply or no contract.
During National Prohibition of alcohol (20s & 30s) many Italian Kingpins similar to Al Capone were able to rack in $100 million each year thanks to the overwhelming business opportunity of illegal booze. The majority of extortion and loansharking gangs were Italian. Lucky Luciano, Johnny Torrio, Al Capone, Vito Genovese, Carlo Gambino, thousands of bosses, underbosses and soldiers, it was all Sicilian. *The day after little 184lb cruiserweight Rocky retired he abandoned his kids and wife to sleep with thousands. He also started his loansharking business--(psychosis and other symptoms he suffered)--@ 1993/08/23 THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Vault | SI*
Archie Moore's turn finally arrived in 1952 when he was a veteran of, at a conservative estimate, 170 contests. He had enlisted the help of leading writers to campaign on his behalf. The world light heavyweight champion, Joey Maxim, was an Italian-American whose real name was Giuseppe Antonio Berardinelli. Maxim's manager, Jack "Doc" Kearns, who had managed the great 1920s heavyweight Jack Dempsey, insisted on Maxim being paid $100,000 in return for allowing the fight to go ahead in St Louis. Moore took what was left, which turned out to be $800. By the time he had paid off his sparring partners and other pre-fight expenses, there was nothing left.
Nevertheless, he won the world light heavyweight title at the age of 39. After the decision, he walked over to Maxim, but was brushed aside by Kearns. "Never mind the condolences, kid," said the old man. "We've got all the money." More than that, Kearns had threatened to pull Maxim out of the fight unless Moore cut him in as his co-manager. Moore had signed - and then discovered Kearns had also negotiated a rematch clause. As a result, Moore had to beat Maxim twice more. Kearns earned a fortune.
*This is another perfect example how the underworld monopolized every single facet of boxing during Marciano's era. Especially with the black boxers. It was the norm. There's nothing you could do, besides pay and keep quiet. The International Boxing Club of New York President Norris and Italian Mafia soldier Frankie Carbo (the most powerful promoter in boxing) owned Rocky's underboss manager Al Weill. Including ticket sales they took 60% of everything Rocky earned. They had their collar-n-leash around the little 184lb cruiserweight and made Millions!!!*
"What could be better than walking down any street and knowing you are the heavyweight champ of the world." - Rocky Marciano
William Dettloff’s book Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life documents that Charles *first felt weakness in his limbs, and some numbness, in 1951 - before he battled Rocky Marciano, Charles was already suffering from the symptoms of ALS* (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis), also known as “Lou Gehrig’s disease.” It is notable when around the time Charles lost to Joe Walcott in 1951, *Dettloff records that his family had noticed signs of what they would learn later was ALS.*
Bert Sugar said, *"His trainer, Ray Arcel said, that even now, at this stage in 51, and then on into the middle 50s, you could see the beginning, the traces of the disease, that would later claim his life, Lou Gehrig's disease in Charles."* --@ 35:01 ESPN Ringside - Rocky Marciano
*Important. Light heavyweight Ezzard Charles had just lost 2 out of 4 fights before he fought the little 184lb-cruiser.*
Ezzard Charles had an extensive welterweight and middleweight amateur career in 1937, 38 and 39.
He went on to being the #1 light heavyweight contender in 47.
In 1949 181lb light heavyweight Charles defeated Walcott by a decision, to win the vacant (paper) world 'Heavyweight' championship.
Then, 182lb light heavyweight Charles lost the paper title to Walcott by a seventh-round knockout in 1951.
*Charles said he first noticed the ailment in 1951, "After a guy hit me, I didn't seem to be able to get away," he recalled, "I didn't have the same coordination."*
Charles attempted to regain the world 'Heavyweight' championship three times, losing once to Walcott in 52 and twice to Rocky Marciano in 54.
From 55 until his retirement in 59, Charles fought twenty-three times and only won ten of those bouts.
*Ezzard's trainers: Ray Arcel, Jimmy Brown, Chickie Ferrera and Bill Gore, all said they noticed signs of ALS in 51. So did Ezzard's family. --William Dettloff’s book 'Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life' ...other sources: Ray Arcel, Burt Sugar, Lou Duva, William Dettloff, Ezzard's family and Ezzard Charles himself.*
Charles died from ALS, commonly known as Lou Gehrig's Disease in 75.
John McGlothlin @ Quora has 3.5K answers and 59M answers views. He's probably the most knowledgeable Rocky fan in the world. Yet he continuously discusses the case of Ezzard Charles, who, from 1951 on, was suffering from the symptoms of ALS, also known as “Lou Gehrig’s disease.” And John always includes sources!
HAVING *SYMPTOMS IN 1951, COMPARED TO WHEN YOU'RE ACTUALLY DIAGNOSED 15 YEARS LATER IS TWO SEPARATE ISSUES!!! FOLKS WALK AROUND WITH SYMPTOMS FOR DECADES BEFORE BEING DIAGNOSED!!!*
Starting a thread with one of your account names and then using your other accounts to respond to them. Freak Boy at his finest
I do see you have also been busy deleting posts from your Samantha, Gregory, and Jabbing Jack accounts. I guess you had no choice but to do that. You, well all 3 of you, were getting beaten so badly in the debate
Kind, respectful, gentleman, outside the ring. Savage, unstoppable beast, inside it.
Immediately after 170-lb Ross was KO'd by Marciano he drove from Rhode Island Providence to Quebec City Quebec -- 8 hr 15 min 465.9 mi via I-93 N inorder to fight 160-lb Billy Sparks.. (( *"Amazing recovery by Eddie Ross after being KO'd by Rocky Marciano the previous day."--@ BoxRec* )) And that's not all,, throughout his very short career Eddie Ross also fought 10 amateurs with 0-0-0 debut records!!! *THE PROOF IS CLEAR AS DAY...ROCKY MARCIANO'S RECORD WAS PADDED!!!!*
Eldridge Eatman 22 wins 20 losses with 22% KO's. *"'Eatman proved no opposition for Marciano,'"* according to BoxRec and the Providence Journal, *"'Marciano hit Eatman with a right in the 3rd round and Eatman went down, THOUGH IT DIDN'T APPEAR HE WAS HIT.'"* Before fighting little Rocky Eldridge had 1 win 8 losses! *THE PROOF IS CLEAR AS DAY...ROCKY MARCIANO'S RECORD WAS PADDED!!!!*
In the old days, ringers could boost their income by fighting repeatedly. Padding your record against weak opponents can yield good results- the real stumblebums are the guys who make a career of losing. In small-time fights, the less-talented fighter often gets the bulk of the cash; he is, after all, providing a valuable service by losing so reliably. --Ring Magazine
Starting a thread with one of your account names and then using your other accounts to respond to them. Freak Boy at his finest
I do see you have also been busy deleting posts from your Samantha, Gregory, and Jabbing Jack accounts. I guess you had no choice but to do that. You, well all 3 of you, were getting beaten so badly in the debate
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"In the ring, i never really knew fear." - Rocky Marciano
"His derelictions have always been minor enough to avoid trial by court martial but they have been consistent and numerous... I believe this man to be of no value to the army." - Major Richard L. Powell
July 1944 - Gloucestershire, England
Private Rocco Marchegiano poses for a mugshot after his arrest for felony assault and robbery, while serving in the US Army during World War 2.
Marciano, along with another solider named James Murphy had been accused of robbing two Englishmen and assaulting them. When questioned, Marciano and Murphy claimed to have no knowledge of the incident but after the victims' items were found in their possession they were forced to change their story.
Despite pleading his innocence, Marciano was found guilty and sentenced to 7 years hard labour but this was eventually reduced to 3 years - Marciano however only ended up serving 22 months. Murphy on the other hand was sentenced to 10 years. Marciano received a dishonorable discharge but mysteriously was allowed to re-join the army for a 12 month period in order to receive an honorable discharge. *"In all my years i have never heard of a dishonorable flipping back into an honorable. The fix was in. He was already protected."*
Unbeaten is the story of an immigrant son who chased the American dream in the middle of the 20th Century *@ THE ROCK Sports Illustrated Vault Aug\23\1993.* Rocky Marciano’s story unfolds in the back alleys of New England and the musty gyms of New York in the years after World War 2. He moved through a romantic era of guys and dolls, hustlers and gamblers, crusty trainers and sleazy managers, glamorous celebrities and notorious mobsters.
What I knew about the 184lb undefeated cruiserweight champion before I read the book Unbeaten was that he quit during his prime right before he would have had to fight the likes of Cleveland Williams, Sonny Liston, Floyd Patterson and Cassius Clay to name a few. I did not know about his conduct during World War 2 that got him locked up in jail for two years. Brutally assaulting and robbing innocent folk.
Nor did i realize that his list of opponents while he was champ were of dubious quality, boxers who were on the way down like Louis, Walcott was 39, light heavy Moore was in his 40's and light heavy Charles was had Lou Gehrig disease.
For the last decade of his life Marciano wandered America, disillusioned, untrusting, hiding his money, cheating on his wife, consorting with the mobsters and loansharking. He hung around with Frank Sinatra and a number of "made guys."
Marciano was not a good businessperson and was lousy with investing and saving money. He left his family penniless. Again his boxing record is offset by the low level of his opponents.
He died relatively young in a plane crash due to his complete and utter disregard of intentionally flying during horrible weather conditions inorder to collect money.
Marciano boarded a small Cessna 172 with pilot Glenn Belz, and Frank Farrell, the son of Louis Thomas Fratto, born Luigi Tommaso Giuseppe Fratto, also known as "Lew Farrell" and "Cock-eyed", an American labor racketeer and organized crime figure in Chicago, Illinois, and Des Moines, Iowa, from the 1930s to his death in 1967. A massive storm system challenged Belz's relative inexperience (231 hours of total flight time) as the plane flew west from Chicago over Iowa. Trying to land at a small airfield outside Newton, Belz crashed the plane into a tree about two miles short of the intended runway. On August 31, 1969, all aboard, including Marciano, died on impact. It was all Rocky's fault, he pressured the amateur pilot into flying even though he knew they were headed towards severe thunderstorms. Why? What was so important in Des Moines? His business was loansharking and he had to collect 35K. Which is equivalent to 290K today.
While stationed in England, Marciano and a fellow soldier named James Murphy robbed two Englishman, brutally beating them up in the process *--@ THE ROCK Sports Illustrated Vault Aug\23\1993.* They were court-martialed and convicted after which Marciano was sentenced to 7 years hard labour, Murphy 10 years, to be served in a British military prison. Marciano was released after 22 months and dishonorable discharged. Although Marciano was mysteriously and suspiciously allowed to rejoin the military for the duration of 1946 in order to receive an honorable discharge -@ *Unbeaten: Rocky Marciano's Fight for Perfection in a Crooked World by Mike Stanton May 29, 2018*
For two decades the Marciano's have been trying to remove this article *@ THE ROCK Sports Illustrated Vault Aug\23\1993* but cannot because it's all factual. Many defamation lawsuits have been filed but all failed. Little Rocky was seriously messed up. His friends tried to help but he refused. He caused his own demise through his insatiable desire for sex and money.
Rocky Marciano the only HW to retired undefeated. That says it all. He was GREAT!
the best
The only undefeated, undisputed, perfect heavy champ in boxing history!
@@Boxrec297 How many accounts do you need black David?
@@Boxrec297 You are Black David Frost, the most prolific Rocky hater on UA-cam
@@Samantha_Lavery_Medici Still spreading your lies I see. Yes Ezzard Charles did have ALS. In 1968. To state he had it in 1951 and it went undiagnosed for 17 years is laughable
@@Samantha_Lavery_Medici According to Ali himself, Rocky hit you so hard it jar your kinfolk in Africa.
I think Rocky must have hit one of your kinfolk and the brain damage has been passed down generations
@@Samantha_Lavery_Medici And when asked who the STRONGEST man he ever faced, Archie replied without hesitation, Rocky Marciano was, by far, the strongest man, I have ever faced and I have faced some strong ones
Quotes from the book Rocky Marciano: The Rock of his times 2005 author Russell Sullivan
"One of the greatest champs ever." - Sonny Liston
"Hardest puncher I ever fought." - Joe Louis
"The one fighter who might have beaten me." - Muhammad Ali
"My manager waited for him to retire before I dared fight him as a heavyweight." - Floyd Patterson
The hardest puncher I ever saw in 50 years in boxing." - Don Turner, trainer for Evander Holyfield
"Ali wouldn't have tried rope-a-dope on Marciano cause Marciano would have KOd him." - Joe Frazier
"Hit harder than anyone I ever fought." - Ezzard Charles
"Hit harder than anyone ever." - Jersey Joe Walcott
"Like fighting an airplane propeller." - Archie Moore
"Trained harder than anyone ever." - Don Turner, trainer
"Hit you so hard it jar your kin folk in Africa." - Muhammad Ali
"Broke blood vessels in my arm just hitting me. Took weeks for my arm to recover." - Roland LaStarza
"One of the hardest punchers who ever lived." - George Foreman
If that is not respect, I don't know what is.
Marciano opponents (not in exact order): *We see their entire "CAREER" record, not a partial record. Seeing a boxers complete resume gives a more accurate evaluation how good, or how bad they were. Professional boxers can easily be evaluated using grades A, B, C, D, and F which has been used in boxing for decades:*
Lee Epperson - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Jimmy Weeks - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Gilbert Cardone - 0 wins 3 losses with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL*
John Edwards - 1 win 2 loss with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Bill Hardeman - 1 win 6 losses with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Humphrey Jackson - 4 wins 2 losses with 28% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Harry Haft - 12 wins 8 losses with 35% KOs *F-LEVEL*
James Connolly - 12 wins 9 losses with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Harry Bilazarian - 15 wins 12 losses with 35% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Bob Jefferson - 3 wins 10 losses with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Harold Mitchell 4 wins 17 losses with 4% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Gilley Ferron - 4 wins 13 losses with 17% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Artie Donato - 7 wins 13 losses with 10% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Johnny Pretzie - 10 wins 13 losses with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Don Mogard - 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Pete Louthis - 32 wins 14 losses with 35% KOs *D-LEVEL*
Tommy DiGiorgio - 9 wins 15 losses with 4% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Kenne Simmons - 9 wins 22 losses with 12% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Art Henri -18 wins 29 losses with 18% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Jimmy Walls - 20 wins 41 losses with 7% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Ted Lowry - 71 wins 68 losses with 30% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Ted Lowry (twice) - 71 wins 68 losses with 30% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Gino Buonvino - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Gino Buonvino (twice) - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Joe Dominic - 18 wins 12 losses with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Eldridge Eatman - 22 wins 21 losses with 22% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Willis Applegate -12 wins 16 losses with 13% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Lee Savold - 104 wins 45 losses with 50% KOs *D-LEVEL*
Phil Muscato - 56 wins 23 losses with 25% KOs *D-LEVEL*
Bill Wilson - 56 wins 27 losses with 51% KOs *D-LEVEL*
Johnny Shkor - 31 wins 19 losses with 42% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Fred Beshore - 35 wins 17 losses with 24% KOs *D-LEVEL*
Jimmy Evans - 18 wins 8 losses with 50% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 10 opponents with 10 fights or less.
Eddie Ross - 19 wins 5 losses with 72% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 10 debuting amateurs and 7 other opponents with 10 fights or less.
Bob Quinn - 20 wins 4 losses with 58% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 13 opponents with 10 fights or less.
Bernie Reynolds - 53 wins 13 losses with 49% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 30 opponents with 15 fights or less.
Pat Richards - 24 wins 9 losses with 39% KOs looks okay until you see who he fought 20 opponents with 10 fights or less.
Carmine Vingo - 16 wins 2 losses with 38% KOs looks good until you see ALL 16 wins came against F-LEVEL opponents.
Don Cockell - 66 wins 14 losses with 46% KOs looks okay until you see the overwhelming majority of his career was at middleweight and light heavyweight. *By the time he faced Marciano he was suffering from severe glandular disorders that wreaked havoc with his physique. He was sallow-skinned, fat, and had a nasty boil on his neck.*
Harry Matthews - 90 wins 7 losses with 58% KOs is a good B-LEVEL resume @ welterweight and middleweight. Matthews was a-natural lightweight, welterweight, middleweight moonlighting at light heavyweight. Matthews weighed 130 lbs vs. Joey Parks who also weighed 130. *Shouldn't one have to beat credible "Heavyweight" opponents to be respected as a legitimate "Heavyweight" champion?*
*Even little 184lb cruiserweight Rocky's 5 best opponents: 3 light heavyweights and 2 cruiserweights -- Charles Moore LaStarza Layne Walcott -- LOST ((94)) times and were KO'D ((28)) times!!!*
IT'S CLEAR AS DAY WHY HE WENT 49-0:
D AND F-LEVEL AMATEUR WALK-IN BOXERS TAKIN-DIVES AND PADDIN RECORDS FOR $$$...NUMBERS DO NOT LIE
*In the old days, ringers could boost their income by fighting repeatedly. Padding your record against weak opponents can yield good results- the real stumblebums are the guys who make a career of losing. In small-time fights, the less-talented fighter often gets the bulk of the cash; he is, after all, providing a valuable service by losing so reliably--The Ring Magazine*
Name one, just one *"prime"* ATG fighter little 184lb-cruiser Rocky beat? Failing to name even one proves my comment rings true. Show me any respected boxing publication or analyst that claims Charles Moore Walcott Louis were in their prime when they fought Marciano?
little *flyweight-reach 184lb-cruiser Rocky's resume:*
Lee Epperson - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Jimmy Weeks - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Gilbert Cardone - 0 wins 3 losses with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL*
John Edwards - 1 win 2 loss with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Bill Hardeman - 1 win 6 losses with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Humphrey Jackson - 4 wins 2 losses with 28% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Harry Haft - 12 wins 8 losses with 35% KOs *F-LEVEL*
James Connolly - 12 wins 9 losses with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Harry Bilazarian - 15 wins 12 losses with 35% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Bob Jefferson - 3 wins 10 losses with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Harold Mitchell 4 wins 17 losses with 4% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Gilley Ferron - 4 wins 13 losses with 17% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Artie Donato - 7 wins 13 losses with 10% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Johnny Pretzie - 10 wins 13 losses with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Don Mogard - 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Pete Louthis - 32 wins 14 losses with 35% KOs *D-LEVEL*
Tommy DiGiorgio - 9 wins 15 losses with 4% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Kenne Simmons - 9 wins 22 losses with 12% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Art Henri -18 wins 29 losses with 18% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Jimmy Walls - 20 wins 41 losses with 7% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Ted Lowry - 71 wins 68 losses with 30% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Ted Lowry (twice) - 71 wins 68 losses with 30% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Gino Buonvino - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Gino Buonvino (twice) - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Joe Dominic - 18 wins 12 losses with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Eldridge Eatman - 22 wins 21 losses with 22% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Willis Applegate -12 wins 16 losses with 13% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Lee Savold - 104 wins 45 losses with 50% KOs *D-LEVEL*
Phil Muscato - 56 wins 23 losses with 25% KOs *D-LEVEL*
Bill Wilson - 56 wins 27 losses with 51% KOs *D-LEVEL*
Johnny Shkor - 31 wins 19 losses with 42% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Fred Beshore - 35 wins 17 losses with 24% KOs *D-LEVEL*
Jimmy Evans - 18 wins 8 losses with 50% KOs looks okay until you see *he fought 10 opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Eddie Ross - 19 wins 5 losses with 72% KOs looks okay until you see *he fought 10 debuting amateurs and 7 other opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Bob Quinn - 20 wins 4 losses with 58% KOs looks okay until you see *he fought 13 opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Bernie Reynolds - 53 wins 13 losses with 49% KOs looks okay until you see *he fought 30 opponents with 15 fights or less.*
Pat Richards - 24 wins 9 losses with 39% KOs looks okay until you see *he fought 20 opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Carmine Vingo - 16 wins 2 losses with 38% KOs looks good until you see *ALL 16 wins came against F-LEVEL opponents.*
*Even little Rocky's best 3-opponents Charles Moore Walcott (two light heavy's & one cruiser) lost (68) times and were KO'd (20) times!*
"In the old days, ringers could boost their income by fighting repeatedly. Padding your record against weak opponents can yield good results- the real stumblebums are the guys who make a career of losing. In small-time fights, the less-talented fighter often gets the bulk of the cash; he is, after all, providing a valuable service by losing so reliably." --The Ring
Marciano handlers were afraid to put him in with anyone who could pose much of a threat after coming so close to tasting defeat vs. LaStarza. So his next opponent was *F-LEVEL* Eldridge Eatman who had lost 8 of his last 9 fights. Everybody knew it was a gimme fight for an undefeated fighter.
Then there was *F-LEVEL* Ted Lowry
who had a career 71 wins 68 losses.
Marciano's 32nd fight was against *F-LEVEL* Keene Simmons
who had a career 8 wins 8 losses.
Marciano's 33rd fight was against *F-LEVEL* Harold Mitchell
who had a career 4 wins 17 losses.
Marciano's 34th fight was against *F-LEVEL* Art Henri
who had a career 13 wins 14 losses.
Marciano's 35th fight was against *F-LEVEL* Willis Applegate
who had a career 11 wins 14 losses.
*It's clear as day Mafia Boss Frankie Carbo & associate Al Weill padded and cherry-picked Marciano's resume his entire (but very short) career.*
Lewis Watson, boxing writer and historian, speaks of the artificial puffing up of records against cherry picked competition saying: “Unbeaten records are fairly padded; you have to look if there are any notable victories coming against first rate competition."
*Who did little 184lb-cruiser Rocky fight? He fought nobody notable until Journeyman Walcott who was at least 40 if not older. Walcott never had a birth certificate, he created one in his mid 20s. It's all in his biography, Chapter 9 page 71. Then there was light heavyweight Charles who had symptoms of Lou Gehrig's disease in 1951. It's all in his biography by William Dettloff. Rocky quickly finished his very short career against light heavyweight Archie Moore who was at least 42 if not older. Some "Heavyweight" resume, sad.*
Starting a thread with one of your account names and then using your other accounts to respond to them. Freak Boy at his finest
I do see you have also been busy deleting posts from your Samantha, Gregory, and Jabbing Jack accounts. I guess you had no choice but to do that. You, well all 3 of you, were getting beaten so badly in the debate
🎵 *Row, row, row your boat* 🎵
🎵 *Gently down the stream* 🎵
🎵 *Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily* 🎵
🎵 *Life is but a dream* 🎵
the only ones who went through the most hard trainings were Masutatsu Oyama, Masahiko Kimura and Rocky Marciano nobody trained like them
Mike Tyson was gifted with type II fast-twitch muscle fibers. He came out the gate sprinting like 220 pound Quarter 🐎 Horse, while little white 185 pound Marciano came out the gate shuffling forward like Little 🐢Turtle. 1980's 20yr old phenom Mike easily KO's Rocky 10 outta 10 times!
Little white 184 lb Marciano had a featherweight arm reach of 67" inches. Imagine penguin🐧arms Rocky trying to fight authentic Super Heavyweights with 50 to 80+ pound weight advantages and 80" to 85" arm reaches? What an embarrassment Rocky would have been today.
Would you say the same if he was Little black 184 lb?
My friends, its very Dificult to
Compare boxers of diffrent
Eras. Like a young joe Louis,
Against a Rocky Marciano, in
His prime.or a young George
Foreman, against a young Joe
Louis. Its a guessing game.
Walcott being granted *(6)* title attempts in a five year span proves how shallow the Heavyweight division was at that time. *And (5) of his title opportunities came immediately after a loss.* Journeyman Joe was C-LEVEL at best. Overall he lost *(20)* times and was KO'd *(6)* times. Walcott's most notable victories include wins over light heavyweights Charles, light heavyweight Maxim and light heavyweight Johnson. Light heavyweight Charles lost *(25)* times and was KO'd *(7)* times. Light heavyweight Maxim lost *(29)* times. Light heavyweight Johnson lost *(11)* times and was KO'd *(5)* times. *This is important. Giant Abe Simon put Walcott into retirement for 4 years 4 months, from 1940 02-12 to 1944 06-07. It's virtually impossible that Walcott was prime when he fought the little light heavyweight Rocky. Rocky himself said Walcott was only 90% @ 'The Marciano Tapes' #3.*
Look at what you posted under your Robert Isaac Cunningham account
@Robert_Isaac_Cunningham
4 weeks ago
@bobbyd1776 Marty Marshall easily beats little Rocky.
How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you post such nonsense?
90% of little white Rocky's opponents were dubious journeymen with lousy looking undercard records. And considering his older ATG opposition and the fact that he 'Quit' during his 'Prime', 49-0 really isn't that fantastic, especially during an era when it was common to have 70 fights like Louis & Walcott, or 121 like Charles, or even 219 fights like Moore had.
One would think since little white Marciano was only 185 that he would at least have faster hands than the true Heavyweights right? But Maricano had the slowest hands I've ever seen on a white boy.
Then how to explain the phenomenon of his victories?
almost all great champions, have to make excuses, and alibis for fights they lost, Marciano has to make excuses for fights he won, except he can't he's Dead
He trained longer than his opponents. They had longer careers and fights,, they depended on their experiences.
your formal words made it like scientific talking, you should use more informal and live expressions, a more hearty kind of describing
Joe Louis said Marciano was the greatest fighter.
and Ali stated he didn’t think he could beat him.
True!@@tjdent7166
Yes he probably was the greatest of all time.@@tjdent7166
Little Marciano quit boxing at only 31 years of age! Larry Holmes fought till he was 52. Holmes was born in 1949. Ad 31 years to 1949 = 1980. Holmes had exactly *(39)* fights after 1980. How many more fights did little LH Archie Moore have after age 31? One hundred? One hundred fifty?
How many fights did Louis have after the age of 31???
How many fights did Walcott have after the age of 31???
How many fights did Charles have after the age of 31???
*Well that pretty much sums up exactly why little Rocky never lost a fight.*
I find it shocking how Rocky fans cannot understand this concept. Liston fought till he was 50 (or older). Foreman fought till he was 48.
Little Rocky quit at only *((31))* bcz his younger brother, Peter, said, *"ROCKY WAS EMBARRASSED OF LOSING"*
well for Pete's sake it's no wonder he never lost,
*he was a "'QUITTER"'!!!!*
Had he continued fighting like everyone else did he undoubtedly would have lost. Instead the little 184lb-cruiser avoided being embarrassed and severely punished by a younger and stronger boxer as has always happened in the history of boxing!
Did Joe Louis lose any fights before the age of 31? Why yes he did
Did Walcott lose any fights before the age of 31? Why yes he did
Did Charles lose any fights before the age of 31? Why yes he did
Did Moore lose any fights before the age of 31? Why yes he did
Did Liston lose any fights before the age of 31? Why yes he did
Did Ali lose any fights before the age of 31? Why yes he did
Did Foreman lose any fights before the age of 31? Why yes he did.
That pretty much sums up that its not easy to reach the age of 31 and remain undefeated
By the way, Rocky, by the age of 31, Lost zero fights by the age of 31
@@bobbyd1776plus spot on there my friend , rocky was a very late starter in boxing people don’t realise that ! 👍
@@STEVEREEVES4444 Thanks. For some strange reason, Rocky has a number of haters. Its sheer jealousy