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- Опубліковано 12 гру 2024
- This is old, check out the newer TP3: bit.ly/30e9VKv
Happymodel Sailfly: bit.ly/2KTMcbb
Yes I know this is a blatant toothpick concept replica....
GEPRC 1206 motor: bit.ly/2Pmv4th
Fantastic little motor!
Good prop for the 1206 motor: bit.ly/2UyN1W9
Another good prop: bit.ly/2GCft69
Succex 16x16 stack: bit.ly/2IKmuDi
The RunCam Nano thing isn't out yet. There's an old Nano which is actually pretty good but no easy way to mount it.
Thank you to Denis Ciocco for designing the Toothpick canopy!!
Recommended Toothpick Build:
Toothpick Frame: bit.ly/2XCORrl
Crazybee F4: goo.gl/KeXqNa
AIO camera/vtx: goo.gl/xD8dQ6, bit.ly/2XxjRc1
Bee Brain camera mount: bit.ly/2XurRKL
Toothpick Motor: bit.ly/2XsYskc
This battery: goo.gl/5F1mcb, bit.ly/2XxJ8my
NEVER charge ANY battery past 4.22v or your battery will not last more than about 10-15 cycles before performance drops off a cliff.
We're working on two different props for this still
KK 65mm prop: goo.gl/YuEogN
may need: amzn.to/2FyT75W
Iflight Turbobee: bit.ly/2GsZSnP
Would be great if this thing fit 2.5" props.
The most reliable whoop product we've seen at PiroflipRC:
bit.ly/2XxInKe, bit.ly/2IMWRBQ
Albert Kim's video on how to repair the 5v on a Crazybee board: bit.ly/2XpVlJM
Join my FB group for more discussion: Kabab FPV
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Equipment I highly recommend:
Micro Eagle -
goo.gl/or1fS9
Caddx Ratel 1.66mm lens - This is a new product so we do not know if it is as reliable as the Micro Eagle just yet
goo.gl/mXcTHN
Rush Tank Vtx -
goo.gl/YMYmya
Fantastic solder-
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TS100 iron -
goo.gl/DqBipa
goo.gl/svK6DD
amzn.to/2OV5XMh
WaFL’s Cap Cap
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Xing 2306: goo.gl/TT9gnw, amzn.to/2VkZ8rt
Flywoo 2306: goo.gl/xuLG6d
Xing 2208: goo.gl/PcJ7GG
Hold off on 220X motors for now. There is a bug in BLheli/BF that makes them act a little weird unfortunately. :-(
Sub $200 5" build that's still good:
Frame: goo.gl/EpXQhZ
FC/4in1 Stack: goo.gl/HprVbj
Motors: goo.gl/h5rofi
Props: goo.gl/ZnzY2y
Props: goo.gl/VMBiQh
FPV Cam: goo.gl/FDJhYw
Vtx: goo.gl/JNVDMn
Starter goggles I recommend: goo.gl/GvJUkT
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Happymodel Sailfly: bit.ly/2KTMcbb
Yes I know this is a blatant toothpick concept replica....
GEPRC 1206 motor: bit.ly/2Pmv4th
Fantastic little motor!
Good prop for the 1206 motor: bit.ly/2UyN1W9
Another good prop: bit.ly/2GCft69
Succex 16x16 stack: bit.ly/2IKmuDi
The RunCam Nano thing isn't out yet. There's an old Nano which is actually pretty good but no easy way to mount it.
Thank you to Denis Ciocco for designing the Toothpick canopy!!
Recommended Toothpick Build:
Toothpick Frame: bit.ly/2XCORrl
Crazybee F4: goo.gl/KeXqNa
AIO camera/vtx: goo.gl/xD8dQ6, bit.ly/2XxjRc1
Bee Brain camera mount: bit.ly/2XurRKL
Toothpick Motor: bit.ly/2XsYskc
This battery: goo.gl/5F1mcb, bit.ly/2XxJ8my
NEVER charge ANY battery past 4.22v or your battery will not last more than about 10-15 cycles before performance drops off a cliff.
We're working on two different props for this still
KK 65mm prop: goo.gl/YuEogN
may need: amzn.to/2FyT75W
Iflight Turbobee: bit.ly/2GsZSnP
Would be great if this thing fit 2.5" props.
The most reliable whoop product we've seen at PiroflipRC:
bit.ly/2XxInKe, bit.ly/2IMWRBQ
Albert Kim's video on how to repair the 5v on a Crazybee board: bit.ly/2XpVlJM
Join my FB group for more discussion: Kabab FPV
facebook.com/groups/37915...
Equipment I highly recommend:
Micro Eagle -
goo.gl/or1fS9
Caddx Ratel 1.66mm lens - This is a new product so we do not know if it is as reliable as the Micro Eagle just yet
goo.gl/mXcTHN
Rush Tank Vtx -
goo.gl/YMYmya
Fantastic solder-
amzn.to/2P5QM2W
TS100 iron -
goo.gl/DqBipa
goo.gl/svK6DD
amzn.to/2OV5XMh
WaFL’s Cap Cap
insta-stalker.com/profile/waf...
goo.gl/9CZdAs
Xing 2306: goo.gl/TT9gnw, amzn.to/2VkZ8rt
Flywoo 2306: goo.gl/xuLG6d
Xing 2208: goo.gl/PcJ7GG
Hold off on 220X motors for now. There is a bug in BLheli/BF that makes them act a little weird unfortunately. :-(
Sub $200 5" build that's still good:
Frame: goo.gl/EpXQhZ
FC/4in1 Stack: goo.gl/HprVbj
Motors: goo.gl/h5rofi
Props: goo.gl/ZnzY2y
Props: goo.gl/VMBiQh
FPV Cam: goo.gl/FDJhYw
Vtx: goo.gl/JNVDMn
Starter goggles I recommend: goo.gl/GvJUkT
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Read my comment on the sailfly lol
KababFPV - Have you seen the new FullSpeed Toothpick? It’s a cool stretch-X design, but they’ve actually named it a Toothpick! Such a low blow!
And now fullspeed have a toothpick named quad coming out 🤔
I assume with the spare uarts and a dedicated sbus pad that you can an aftermarket receiver to the crazybee board even though it has one built in.
@@damienkrohse3374 yeah you can
I learn so much from you ramblings every time. Great video!
Hang in there man, I’m super excited about these nano’s. Especially since you only except exceptional performance
I appreciate your time and research in this size of the hobby. I'm new, looking at GepRC Phantom HD, maybe a little bigger than this but seems solid.
Love new less detail format! I miss the deets dont get me wrong but love hearing about your theories and what you are working on. Respect from salty!
My order just shipped from your site, hopefully the fc holds up.
Can't wait for the 16x16 stack wars! Thx doc! 👍😝🏁
Super_S still stands up to the abuse better than any others.
and the quest continues! thanks for leading the journey Rob!
Oh man, that slim mini frame with white TPU on the back is a beautiful artwork!
Ok, and now my beloved Geprc 1206 will never be in stock again ;) The 4500kv on 4S rock! Micro Alien & Micro Reverb are performing stellar with these motors. Really looking forward to your frame in that class!
The micro reverb and aliens are such sweet little frames. I wish ImpulseRC still sold the motors you see in the pictures.
RCINower 1108 motors with HQ T3x3x3 props are also a really impressive combination for efficiency. It's surprisingly quiet, quite fast if you're running 4S on higher KV, and works well as a durable everyday flyer. It still suffers from the same problem as 'might as well fly a 5" ' for most situations, but it's a smaller, cheaper, and quieter solution for where I fly, and it takes hits like a champion.
The mobula cam is bomb for sure! Can’t wait to get my drone box from you!
I just wish the image wasn't so soft. Can't see the ghost branches until you're right on top of them! Be a little better once the leaves pop out.
Well the crazybee F4 v2 supports up to 3s, so they have to do changes to the regulator in order to support 3s. Fingers crossed that they managed to fix it ^^
even the regulator on V1 sucks and the F3 version also, thanks to kabab i've managed to fix it with an external pololu regulator
@@boratsagdiyev1586 I think you didn't catch my point but that doesn't matter anymore. From what I've found it appears the v2 has the same issue as all the other boards.
@@yekt3805 I understood but i just figure might as well mention this is an ongoing issue. But looks like you know xd
Just dying to get my hands on your frame, can't wait for it to be restocked, I love my 2 inch, but always hated the performance, can't wait to try out your setup 👍👍. Mad props to you KababFpv.
I've been using the Hoverbot 1103 8000kv motors on my toothpick build. They are custom brother hobby motor and they are fantastic.
Heard good things but EXPENSIVE
Emax rs1306b and rs1408 motors are also the mount pattern of the 1206/110X
Just received my kabab order. I ordered mine back in February with the maxxino motors. This order came with the upgraded motors, also he threw in an extra one...thanks Kabab! I'm in the process of building it now :-)
Two flight controllers(crazybee f4 v1 & v2), two flights.... Death, $80 down the drain.
Thank you for this update. The takeaway for me is that I don't need to wait for an HD toothpick so I just ordered some Amaxinno 1103's.
I built a couple 60 gram auw micros and love the way they fly on 2s. Can't wait to try your toothpick frame when it's available. I've got the mobula 7 for parts.
Don't bother with a conversation build and I'd recommend just waiting. I've got other things that 'should' be more reliable coming
I’ve been using the succex 20x20 on 6s 2207 for months now on a Hyperlow RS+. it’s never faltered. Hopefully it’s little brother is as reliable. I reviewed the cinebee and it was awful so that stack is going to find a new home.
Looking forward to putting BF 4.0 on the quad I'm building, received 4 Emax ECO motors yesterday but spinning them by hand, 3 spin as smooth as the ones on my Hawk 5, but one feels 'notchy', like a tiny piece of grit in the bearing.
About to wire them up and give them a bench test.
Don't worry about it. Really. It's not gonna make any difference
Thanks for the voice of reason, it's probably just me over-analyzing things again.
I had 2 mob7s and both the f3 boards went bad. One went bad on 2nd flight. Gyro stopped on other. Bought 2 F4 boards, and both fly like crap. One burnt up early on and the second still runs but it flies like garbage compared to the f4. I’ve tried tons of pids and other settings just flys like crap. Won’t corner, ends up flopping upside down in corners like it’s losing gyro update or something.
That’s why I’ve stayed away now and venturing towards 2.5 inch. I have a massive droner w the original stuff I put in it and it’s a freaking beast. Been through 2 frames because I just thrash it. All electronics still work fine. Forget how many hours of flight on it, but’s it over 10
There will be a Runcam Racer Nano soon, 14x14, it could be great for toothpick. The image quality is great. With 1.8mm lens the FOV looks identical to Runcam Racer 2.
Yeah I have them. I talk about it in this video. It's wayyy better than the eos but still not quite excellent
@@Kabab Oh, okay. I just heard you say 'Runcam nano'. There is Runcam Nano, Runcam Nano 2 and now soon will be Runcam Racer Nano. Not sure which one you had there :)
Whatever the newest one is I have that
I have high hopes for that 16x16 Succex stack. I have one in a pre production Cinebee that I tested and while the whoop itself is no real test of the stack I have abused it physically pretty badly. It spent 6 days in a tree during 2 snow storms and a heavy rain and it's still going strong. I have a turbobee 120rs coming that should be a little 2s ripper with 1103 10,000kv and 2.5 inch props.
Looks similar to a B-roll frame, which I have, but have not built yet! Basically, I’m transferring the guts of a Emax Baby Hawk R3 to the B-roll frame, minus the runcam split! Should rip, we’ll see!
In a short time I'm going to build a deadcat 3" long range build with my own frame, it's only a test but I hope it works well, I plan to build it with a foxeer mix V2 when it comes out. I'll tell you how it goes when I build it 🤞🏽. Thanks a lot for your videos 💪🏽
I have been flying the X140 from lisamrc with 1206 motors, 4s and emax props it has been my favorite for months just how much better the way it flys doesn't make sense it's so much better then a bigger 3"..
Yeah I prefer the light builds too
Congrats on 30k
Man, that video at the start is so super smooth. This is exactly what I try to achieve (yet I fail) . Any particular tips? :)
I have. Video on flying smooth. It's probably one of my most popular videos. All the techniques in there still apply now
A couple thoughts. With your 3 inch build what if you put the stack in the center and mount the HD board above it but onto the upper plate? The iflight ih3 has that capability and it's awesome. You will have to drill some holes for it to work though.
Another thought is to check out 1104 5000kv motors for a three inch. I've got a the inch build like that, that weighs 91g with the caddx turtle. And it's on the cusp of flying amazing. It gets prop wash coming out of dives that I'm still tinkering with. It's punch out isn't the Best but it's a hoot to fly and super quiet. I've been flying with a 3s battery and will try a 2s real soon. Just an idea.
The 110x size is really only useful for 2" or very low load 3" props. As for the frame distribution, sure but there are bigger issues to deal with at the moment with the platform.
Oh yeah I run 2hv 2s 300s together it is light set up and works amazing I also use the 3s 520s together on my 6s arrow and they work stupidly well!
With that camera mount shown, you can run a regular sized micro cam... Also, there is a 19x19 camera canopy for this frame
One thing I think brushless whoops succeed at is getting stuck in trees. With ducted props, the props are less likely to get stuck in twigs or leaves. I got a mobula7 stuck in a 40 foot pine tree at the very top, and was able to turtle mode my way down layer by layer.
Never could happen without those ducts saving me.
yep
I know it kind of misses the point of the 16mm stack... However we all need to know if the issue is the pins or the mounting. Maybe a 20mm adapter that is isolated and then rigidly mount the 16 by 16 to the 20x20 (or 30x30) adapter and see if the pins are reliable. I hope the pins work. It would be awesome to assemble a stack the way we stick R Pi stuff together.
I asked them to do something similar to that with the stack actually
I am still holding back to start a toothpick build.
Oh man, you have not made it easier this time, lol!
Yes, he has! They're completely sold out again! Lol
On the micro its worth remembering that many have been here before. 1104/5-4000kv and 3" bi-blades is a pretty decent setup, rotorx taught us that and not too loud either.
Much argument about noise on RCgroups pretty much established that rpm is key to noise minimisation. bigger props, more blades, less weight. In general this means the largest flattest pitch bi-blades you can handle to keep motor requirements to a minimum and low KV as battery weight is such a big variable on these things. IMO although the triblades will be quieter than the bi blades all else being equal propping down allows you to motor down too.
Have you thought about what you could do for aero? The problem with low kv for low noise is obviously the speed but the rpm and pitch is still there for a decent air velocity, maybe a bit of aero could address that.
aero doesn't do much in the way of noise reduction and on something so small, there isn't much weight left to bother with aero. You'd just be killing performance....same reason I don't like canopies. Improved disk loading properties is the single most effective method of reducing noise.
@@Kabab well yes but aero could help you get higher speed with lower rpm = less noise. Then use the lower kv motors and get the same performance but better efficiency = smaller battery. quiet is easy, it's the performance that is hard, TWR is also easy but add in speed and it's hard.
Hey Bob I found some 1304’s with a 9X9 Mount pattern, RCX 1304 4000kv...very smooth and quite, maybe a lil too low kv for u tho...
Great motor for 2.5" but not a super light
Love your glide frame in 3 inch. I actually think if you made a 4 in version of the mini glide with a unibody or light separate arms. It would fill a giant whole in the fpv community allowing for sub 250 gram dji hd builds. Your frame design seems to have very little wasted weight so I think its perfect if you scaled it to 4 inch.
The spedix board hasn't failed per se but the BEC wasn't able to power both my vtx and my mini split. As a result I lost video flying over the ocean.... I guess I should have manually added a vbat for the split... Hindsight 20/20.
Here is what I would LOVE to see as the perfect 3" freestyle quad: something like the Glide / Flosstyle, super stiff boomerang arms 3,5 /4mm, arm length 4 inch but running 3" props, slightly stretched X with a shorter body. Height to fit common 3 pcs stacks like Geprc Stable 20a... only 4 standoffs. This would be superlight, efficient with good speed and not too twitchy and would make a 3" fun even in bigger areas. PLEASE ;)
Hello. Thank you for the video. I was wondering if the range of the build in rx could be improved with the right antenna (length). For video reception there is a standard saying so t speek 'use a better antenna'. I have been studying up on the RX antenna lenght and tested the range on a spektrum sattelite klone. It does make quite a lot of difference to have the right antenna. 30.24mm is the length I use. Measured from its mounting/soldering point. Note how ever that the lenght is not the same for every receiver depending on the electronics design of the rx.
I have tried putting a half whip on there and it just makes it a tiny bit better
Bob, if possible hope you can extend a little longer the arms to swing 3inch props since you’ll be making for 16x16 stack . Also for the toothpick motors, hope thrs a hole for us to screw the props .
Yep that's essentially one of the designs I already have
Try the Hglrc 428 f4 20x20 28amp stack. Bullet proof for me 👍
So I went beta 85x a lil heavy but still fly's better on the frane then anything I've ever flown and the 32esc is very noticeable on this size of quad at least to me I'm prob 3months into fpv but I can tell it's for life!
Hi Bob,
Thanks so much. I’ve been regularly (religiously!) check your website but it’s always out of stock. Now you’re talking about new developments, new motors, etc. When will we be able to order? And will you work better rates for ex-US countries?
Brilliant video as ever and I’m with you about having light, silent, and powerful quads!
Just wait. Please just wait. Nothing is reliable. It's annoying.
I bought one of first run toothpick frames that you produced, I waited a while for some parts to come available but it was taking forever so I built it with the Hive stack, T-motor f10's and a bee eye camera. It flies great but the Bee eye sucks balls.
I see you've pretty much moved on to 2s for sure. I'm sticking with making 1s as godly as possible. It's almost ready too ;) Nearly 5:1 thrust to auw weight atm and indestructible. None of that garbo crazybee board Rx either. Loving it
Turtle v2 is great , but I’m seeing more and more faulty pcb , even in the mobula Hd there are brand new yellow screen cases
GFflash2540 on 1104 6500-7500 motors, 100g AUW squish build would be the bomb. I have your floss2.5 AUW (on 2S)100g and it fly great as a racer but not so great as freestyle. This prop (GF2540), motor and AUW combo works great IMO
Hi Bob, I bought 5 of your Hyperlight motors to use in my 2-3s toothpick build. Luckily I tested them before building and they are crazy-high Kv - can't use them, don't want them. People are blowing ESCs on 2s and the V1 Crazybees boards too so not convinced the blame is all with HappyModel. Thought you didn't like anything above around 8000Kv so that is what I was expecting.. why is everyone seem to only want to produce bazillion Kv motors in this size? Some of us would love to fly their micros longer w/o double-digit currents that smoke these tiny FETs. Peace.
Really waiting for your kit, that'll be the hype of 2019! hmm... might be 2020 if all fails.
My speedix stack caught fire in my rex80
Bob, I love the work you have done to date, but I'm questioning how safe or how safe is the perception anyway of a 3inch with a 16x16 stack, even with light 120x or 110x motors is? As you said noise ok, but size mostly is still 3inch and semi imposing, and maybe weight over 100g etc? Shame about the reliability conclusion on the single board option for toothpick, those 16x16 stacks are all heavier obviously, but yes probably 200mW VTX and higher Amp ESCs so I see why you've upped the game to 3inch etc.
Well it's definitely less safe but flight performance is #1 to me.
Thank you very much for this review and have a great weekend :)
I’m liking bf4. My only 2 5” bf quads at the moment are both emax, the hawk and the 6s buzz. The buzz is doing great on bf 4 especially with the gemfan 51466 props. But I think it does need to be tuned a little better. On the Avan flows it sounds like a d term oscillation. I donno but once I get it good and broke in I’m going to use it to learn bf 4 and really test it against my fl1 quads. I’m about to use Rabix bf 4.0 tune on my hawk 5 and see how that goes. The vids that he’s posted recently are insane how the hawk flys on 4.0. And I’ve got to build a toothpick soon! Love that little guy.
0:38 was sharp and clean Babak.
Some oftopic questions:
Now when Betaflight 4.0 is out, can you update your Betaflight tuning tips? Also got a warning about default Yaw D setting in BF 3.5 which can do bad things in BF 4.0 if left as is.
Any thoughts about ESC EPM Filter in Betaflight 4.0? Seems the ultimate way how to mitigate noise and power consumption. However my knowledge about this is limited with fact that it works only together with BLHeli32 ESC's and I must know motor pole count.
one day I'll get around to it. I'm super backed up on things to do...
I wanna try those 1206 on my 2.5, 3S build over 1106 And see how they compare..
I'm a big fan of the 1206 motors too. The HGLRC Zeus is too big? I want a wide frame anyway to top mount battery to get cg centered on prop plane. Mounting it to the bottom is one terrible solution?
We need an update on micro brushed builds, as well!
I'd say by now brushed is essentially dead other than the new super duper tiny tiny whoop. That's the only instance I can see brushed being used anymore.
Maybe extend arm length and the component distribution becomes relatively more compact?
Yes that would work but it defeats the purpose of a small quad...
Man how do you get such clear video in your intro? Running a 7 black? Silky smooth.
It's a session 5. It's probably the ND filter and the nice contrasty lighting.
Spedix has been nothing but a prob for me my esc is good but the fc is no good my.gyro went out after a month . That was on a rex 80 and my trashcan showed up doa . Ive been building the tooth picks now with the i flight boards and they have been holding up . No more whoop style prebuilts for me they are just not made well enough . Thanks for the video
I'm sorry. That's literally the first I've heard of such issues. 😣
please please please also make a 15000kv version of that motor for 1s!
I switched to the new beta Esc and fc combo after my crazy bee died.. It's a bit heavier but it holds for over 100packs now
That's a great sign. Lots of hope
@@Kabab yeah I think so too
I couldn't agree with you more on the 3" builds. I was keen on the KK2840 propeller on 1104, really light AUW build it was crazy. I have been pushing the limits on light weight builds due to the stupid aussie rules
I'm gonna try a few different things like a capacitor on mine! I have one on my snapper 7 board but that board had no issues to begin with? IDK!?
have you tried the HD cam and dvr that comes with Lizard105s? that is tiny, not gopro quality but good enough for toothpick
Unfortunately the Toothpick can't really carry more than it's own weight. I'm working on a couple of other platforms however
Pretty great stuff there, dude. 😊
About the 3" with 1206 motors, try some 20x20 stack with 20a 4 in 1 esc. I guess that could be the problem. 😊
BTW, leave only the 4 in 1 esc and the FC in the back and put the VTX over the Caddx Turtles board. That way the weight distribution can be a bit better. 😉
What do you think of the emax 1606 4000kv motors? I'm about to bring a quad live with these motors. Haven't seen much on them. Can't wait based on the specs, they look like they'll rip.
I think that size is excellent for 3 in
Competition in the space is always good imo, maybe then stuff will actually be in stock and reliable again.
Geprc already has a 3inch quad with the same motors and a very similar design, but nobody would say you copied them making this video.
I just discovered that thing last week. I bet it has the same issues mine has. Control performance will not be so great
I'm interested in seeing if there are any 16x16 FC/ESC to get the wheelbase down to 105mm :)
More recent builds are all toothpick style boards which are just more powerful whoop boards. Way more simple
put the FC card in the right place and not in the back, the weight distribution is very important, and if you have the gyro which is not centered it is normal that it does not work great .. on my side, I I had a lot of changes once turned the FC because the gyro is not centered on at least it is in the central axis! (usb in the back now less partic, but so much better in flight! (c a fc F4 omnibus V3) ..) besides I do not understand why there is no gyro centered on the FC is the minimum .. (in my opinion ..)
Gyro doesn't care where it is as long as it moves with the frame. The acclerometer does care where it is but it still doesn't make enough of a difference for a human to tell unless it's maybe a foot or two off center. We don't use the accelerometer so we don't care about that and it doesn't matter where it goes. Weight distribution is a very important point and you'll hear me talk about that a lot in later videos.
I'm using a gofly 130 with 1105 7500kv on 4s 3025 bi blades, its great, sub 125g auw.
Just a thought,would mounting the esc under the bottom plate with like a 3d printed cover that also is the battery holder help with center of gravity and also cut down the top stack height........good or bad....would love your input.
we've got those already. Work great but so does a rubber band
Has the flosstyle been discontinued in favour of the glide? It never seems to be in stock..
Yes because the Glide is better in every way. There are some spare parts available for the floss style however
Do you pull a lot of teeth? Just wanted to say. Massive respect for what you Dentist's have to do. So stoked to see your Toothpick. Dr. quad.
Yeah I'm hoping to move towards just extractions in the future actually.
@@Kabab I really like when you fly in your Dental scrubs. Always impressed with your tech.talk.
Mmmm I think the acrobrat has the best control as a 3 inch frame, maybe you should try to design something like that
the acrobrat is essentially a 5". It just happens to be a little smaller. Otherwise it's just as dangerous and just as noisy. Not to say it's bad. It's great, it's just not specifically what I'm looking for.
wait a minute. So 100% default. Also the PID-s?
Yep just my rates
A thoothpick build would be nice
If I could get these frames here in the UK without extortionate shipping costs or waiting an eternity from China I'd be all over it. Would love to support your efforts KababFPV but its just too much money to ship from the states.
Unfortunately that's the advantage that China has
I fixed the crazybee wich broke so i added the regulator and it worked. Flew 1 pack and the flight controller started smoking and shit. Looks like the BEC isnt the only poor quality aspect on it. My friends one yesterday stopped working midflight after 2 packs also. And wrecked everything he could. Looking at betaFPV boards but why os it considered a poor alternative. I cant trust the one and only crazybee V2 i have layong around
@KababFPV
You should try the new Hive 16x16 Stack from Newbeedrone!\
They're working on something special for me... :-)
Lol i still fly the super_s stack.For 12-13 bucks the esc is a no brainer for cheap 2s builds.I flew my first one beyond 500 flights and it was nuked by faulty motors in the end.It is too big though , lots of overhang
So, I saw on your site that you said the current happymodel batch of crazybees are trash. What about the eachine ones - or are they all the same?
PS - what happened to the 1103 Hyperlite motor?
I'm gonna put up a video about it tomorrow actually.
You could/should try the 1304 - 1404 size motors, many people swear by them :)
Yeah I'm gonna make a new motor in this size class. I have some 1404s on the way but I may end up with either 1403 or 1503
Why have you not tried emax rs1108 motors. They are a step above all 1100 series motors. Tx for your work especially for your hyperlite 2.5 or 3.0 inch builds. I think faster than 1400 series. I'm waiting.
Sincerely Peter Bartel
I tried 1108 motors like a year or more ago. Check the backlog of videos. The RCinpower 1108. The hawksky 1107 are better however this new light build style is different...
What's this bug with 220X and blheli/bf you mention in your descriptions? I can't find anything on it.
Just refreshed my build with a Glide frame , Xing 2208's and BF 4.0. Everything seems fine other than me missing Helio :(
I'm gonna make a video on this in a few days...
I was reading the description and came across ur budget 5” build under 200 bucks and compared it with my list. 2 questions do you have that build? And wouldnt the dys samguk be cheaper and the same as the eachine 2306??
I haven't built exactly that build but the dys motors would make it cheaper. The dys are fine. They're definitely not great but the eachine are a lot better. Doesn't make much difference in flight performance however
I see. 🤔pretty interesting stuff
On that last frame pictured are the antenna tubes ear cleaners/q-tips? Also the video needs more nipple lol.
Would the iflight 16x16 micro stack fit in the pod with the frame shown, Also what receiver is best to use?
Thanks
This is a bit old. Lots of new things now
I don't know why I'm asking now, but why do we use outrunning brushless motor and not inrunning motors? Because wouldn't make that thing much easier with vibration and all that?
We only use OutRunner motors for a number of reasons but OutRunner motor is generally have a mechanical advantage in the torque department
Bob - how do we get the Toothpick in Australia? Will there be a BNF version? Cheers mate
there will never be a BNF because it's impossible to keep this stuff in stock
KababFPV and an Australian supplier?
If the iflight pins break can you solder the connections or is it not worth the effort?
It's way too small to solder. You're talking about a spot thank about a quarter mm squared that's just about a half mm away from another.
I missed out when the frames came in... I'm going to go floss and pout :)
More coming. No worries
Yes I've bought 2 and still have not flown 1 I have the tooth pick 8 3d printed frames and box of props and motors and its frustrating I'm not giving up I ordered a mantis 85 and using fc and ESC with the caddex firefly I'm also transfuring a attack 66 1s onto a 2" 3d frame 2" props with 0806 motors should b a rocket
Nice you do read your comments that's what's up bro I hope we can rip sum time!
Why releasing a new motor that burns the boards? you guys didnt tested enough? what are the perfomance diferences between the new motors and the amax inno???
they're overall more powerful and better flight feel thanks to better magnets
Hi Bob hope your good which motors do you recommend for 6s I'm running kiss and I've been using the rcx 2207/1700kv for the past few months.
Dftf
The xing 2306 is probably the best value and one of the most durable motors on the market right now. I personally love the Flywoo but only because it's slightly higher kv in 6s
@@Kabab how about 2208 zing 1700/1800?
@@chrishiggins7475 that's my favorite motor but there's a little glitch with 22 size motors and 5" or bigger props. A slight wobble on quick throttle drop. It's very slight but I can't tolerate it.
@@Kabab hi Bob last one 🤣 cant get hold of the xing 1800kv 2208 but can 1700kv worth it or 2207 1800kv TIA
@@chrishiggins7475 I'd go for the 2306 instead.
Next build is the toothpick buddy!
How about a blade torrent like design but bigger props? A guardless torrent + 2.3" prop on 3s was closer to a 5in than my 4s 2.5 and 3in(could be my heavy 4s batts), but the esc couldnt handle it. If think about it was like a heavier toothpick.
Absolutely love my modded torrent. Guardless with DYS 2435 2.4 inch props and a 350 2s zippymax battery flies incredibly well. Its almost absurd; the craft doesn't feel like the original whatsoever.