VANGELIS - IRLANDE Remake with the GX-80 by Cherry Audio
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- NOTE: This is a repost. I hate to lose all the views and comments - especially Cherry Audio's - but after listening to it enough times, I felt it needed to be tweaked. It's such a delicate piece that any sloppily-timed notes or uneven volume surges basically ruin the whole thing. Worst part is, I'll probably hear something else that bothers me later on. Original post as follows:
This is a dream come true for me. For decades I've longed to be able to play this gorgeous track using the same sounds Vangelis used, but there was simply no way for me to do that -- The venerable CS-80 was (and still is) too far out of reach and no other synth I had access to could quite reproduce its sonic qualities... until now.
Cherry Audio has blown my socks off with the GX-80. cherryaudio.co... It's hard to know what else to say about it. As soon as you start scrolling through the sounds and playing with the paddles, this feeling comes over you that this is the CS-80 you've been wishing for all these decades and now it's actually in your possession. Yes, Arturia already remade the CS-80 at least a couple of times (and it provides supporting strings on this track), but it didn't draw me in the way this does. It didn't feel as real or accurate, though it may indeed be.
To be fair, Arturia has set a standard for these synth emulations and I use the V Collection a lot. But when it comes to this particular synth, I feel like Cherry Audio has created the only version I'll ever need. I cannot imagine the work that must have gone into this. They could have said, "Well, Arturia already did it so let's move on." I am SO glad they didn't say that.
I can't thank you enough, Cherry Audio. cherryaudio.com/
Anyone who is interested in trying the presets, I've got a folder of presets I made for Irlande and for Hymne that are located here: www.dropbox.co...
I didn't bother organizing them properly, so you'll get some "in progress" grade presets. PLEASE ALSO NOTE that they are detuned, so use the global tuning to set them back to zero. LASTLY, without a keyboard that has polyphonic aftertouch, these sounds will sound flat / non-expressive by comparison.
Let me know if they work (or don't). Typically, you would copy them to your folder system here: C:\Users\(your user name)\AppData\Roaming\CherryAudio\GX-80\Presets\User Presets
#cherryaudio #vangelis #irlande #gx80 #synthmusic
INSTRUMENTS USED:
- KORG Triton Studio - Tubular Bell
- Arturia CS-80 V - Supporting Strings
- Cherry Audio GX-80 - Everything Else
Recorded with Reaper: www.reaper.fm/
Perfectionist, eh? Us too. We all worked so hard to bring the GX-80 to life and it's wonderful to hear an artist like yourself do it justice. Thanks for posting (and re-posting) this beautiful track. Thanks for the wonderful comments as well. We're all looking forward to hearing what you might do next.
Thank you so much for viewing and responding! And thank you 1,000 times for all you do 😊
It sounds very dreamy and soft like Vangelis indeed, well done !
“…. like Vangelis indeed,” - such a compliment! 😊
Congrats Jon. Beautiful work! And GX-80 sounds amazing!
Thank you Eric!
Amazing ! A real tribute to the great Vangelis and very convincing prove of the quality of the GX -80.
Thank you! He truly was one of a kind. I can’t think of anyone else who did more to prove that synthesizers are true instruments.
Oh my.... It's just incredible!
Thank you!
Wonderfull
Thank you! 😊
What a lovely time I had listening to this thank you Jon.
Thank you James!
Superb rendition 👏
I appreciate it!
Superb cover in terms of accuracy.
Thank you! I’m still learning the GX-80, but it would be impossible to truly capture Vangelis’ magic anyway.
Nice work here, had the Vangelis vibe for sure. I am also impressed with the GX-80 but my work is live and sloppy compared to this fine production. Very impressive, great audio and listening experience. If I can find the time I might download your presets, I can play them through the Hydrasynth for the poly aftertouch. Excellent, sub.
Thank you so much! Have you been able to map the Hydrasynth ribbon controller to the GX-80 ribbon controller?
@@jonsheltmire Not yet, probably a midi learn, I will try and get back to you.
@@jonsheltmire Yes, it worked out of the box with no midi learn. I was surprised. Poly touch was subtle, so I turned on MPE from the Hydrasynth but MPE must be the default on the GX-80 as I could find no setting for it (but I have vision problems and there might be a button or switch I missed). One disappointment was Hydrasynth ARP did not send to the software, might have to bring it up under a DAW. BTW I am such a Vangelis fanboy, I recently acquired two great Vangelis libraries, Luftrum's for Omnisphere and Synth Legends by Mark Scott on the Wavestate. Both are excellent but from what I hear, you do not need any help getting the sounds right. Looking forward to more from your channel.
@@Sam_Utah specifically, how are you mapping the ribbon controller to the GX-80 ribbon controller? My understanding is that it only works with the controllers pitch bend wheel.
@@jonsheltmire I did no mapping, it just worked, but perhaps it is not driving the GX-80 ribbon at all, I was not watching the ribbon strip but the Hydrasynth appeared to correctly operate out of the box. The ribbon signal was operating as it does on the Hydrasynth. I will take another look to see if the GX-80 ribbon is moving when I use the Hydra. But the effect worked without making any settings.
Great job!
Thank you so much!
Very Nice and inspiring, congratulations 👍
Thank you very much! 🙂
Great job! You really nailed it. I did a cover of Chung Kuo with the GX-80… it such a great plug-in.
I know - I heard your cover, thought it was great and commented on it! I think you’d appreciate my Blade Runner cover too. When are you going to do another cover?
@@jonsheltmire Good question… hard to know when the muse will strike again.
Hello Jon! This is another wonderful recreation and I am impressed again with the attention to detail to which you have done one of the most beautiful tunes ever! Now from sound design point of view am really curious to know why you prefer GX-80 over CS80 V? I have played/listened to GX-80 lately a lot, but still it sounds a little thin/flat to me. I am not sure how to define it exactly, but it doesn't sound as powerful as the hardware. I saw some comment on UA-cam that it sounds more compressed/processed than the Arturia's recreation and my impressions are just the same.
Thank you Kristian! I have played around with both and I get the opposite impression. Who knows… different ears, different experience I guess. All I know is I immediately loved the GX-80 and couldn’t wait to start making Vangelis music with it. The one thing I needed help from the CS-80 V on was the strings, but I blame that on myself, not the GX-80. The strings are a blend of both instruments.
As a side note, I really like the addition of a console surface effects section and it sounds more analog to me than the CS-80 effects. I also like having more sound sculpting options with the GX-80. It feels and sounds more like a real vintage analog beast to me.
Sorry, one more thing while it's occurring to me - did you have the Limiter by the master volume control set to "on"? You have the option to turn that off, which may change how you hear it.
@@jonsheltmire That limiter function is especially useful if you tweak sounds because listening through loud monitors can quickly cause hearing damage/fatigue with active monitors. Been there done that... I even bought a dB probe now to do a couple of tests before I start making music to prevent hearing damage
Just did a side by side comparison with the origial remastered and can say its nearly perfect. The original had some flutes at the end that stood out a bit more. And the strings were a bit thinner and lighter on the original if anything not so full. But Wow!!
I hear little differences now too that drive me crazy, but the GX-80 sounds so good in its own right that I can live with the results for now. Thank you for your kind comments!
You are right. The Arturia CS80 version get's kinda pale in comparison with the GX-80. Now the wait for the Behringer VS80 is even more tempting...
Agreed!
@@jonsheltmire Really? arturia version worse?
@@tendingtropic7778 I wouldn’t say it’s “worse” - I haven’t spent much time with it. I personally just like the GX-80 better.
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it sounds wonderfull. are the sounds from the presets or scratch build??
Thank you! The flute was already there, just tweaked a bit. The two lead sounds and any other supporting sounds were mostly built from scratch, though I don’t remember what I started with. I made a nice church bell sound on the GX-80, but ultimately went with the Korg Triton tubular bell, which sounds more like the bell in the original track. The strings were from both the CS-80 and GX-80 with a lot of tweaking, though I still didn’t get them where they need to be. One of my goals is to figure out how to replicate Vangelis’ string textures on the GX-80.
@@jonsheltmire that "guitar"like leadsound is wonderful
@@RichardDenRooyen1973 thanks! After I played around with it a bit, I realized that the lead sound on V’s “Hymne” is mostly the same sound, just doubled on itself with a lower octave! So I’m working on a cover of that one next.
Well done indeed. Would you be inclined to share some of the custom patches? Also what controller are you using? Well done!
Yes, I would! And thank you 😊 I’ll post some when I have the chance. My controller is a KORG Triton Studio 88. It has weighted keys and some touch polyphony, although I’m starting to covet the Seaboard rise a bit… I’m curious if it would allow for more sensitive expression.
@@jonsheltmire Outstanding, thank you! I have a few controllers, the CME Xkey has lovely poly aftertouch, although it's so small and only 37 keys, but fantastic for leads.
@@jadpa2008 Hey there! I posted a link to the presets in the description. Also, check out "Hymne" - I just posted it this morning :)
I use my Hydrasynth witch as as polyKB aftertouch and a ribbon excactly as the CS80 too ! and it's really a game changer when playing CS80 VST (arturia or cherry) with a midi controller (polyKB AT + ribbon) exactly as the CS80 !
@@alexandrebout4762 thank you for the recommendation - it sounds like a great option!