Black Farmers Are Struggling in Post-Apartheid South Africa (2006)
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- Land Reform - Celebrating in Hope (2006): In the 1930's land taken from the original farmers was given to white farmers. Now the original owners are trying to get it back.
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Access to land is one of the fundamental issues in South Africa. Problems with land reforms are common and in Limpopo they are trying to solve this. Farms that have been returned to their original owners are expected to fail. But with financial support and training, their owners want to prove this wrong.
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Did you notice that the one successful black farm had a white guy working for them?
seems to me he may be the silent partner they were talkign about, if you read between the lines a successful farm usually have a silent white partner
Seeker. That's why he is successful.
I think the boss is just a puppet lol, the real man is the white guy.
Fani Indra Gunawan
That comment you made is why
you all must Go from SA ASAP.
Your evil mind you think you are
special. Black man is Boss an
white man works for him he is
called a subservient haha what
is wrong with that. Your mind
is sack horse shit you Devil...
gabby sariya- if what ur saying is true then why is it that after this happened south Africa entered a recession?? why is it that there economy stopped growing from 1.8 percent to .5 percent??? why is it that the demand for electricity is down??? why have the exports dropped??
Why would they expect the previous land owners to leave them a perfect working farm with millions of dollars of equipment, irrigation systems, and housing? I'd like to know if the government paid the farmer or simply seized the land. If he didn't receive fair market value for his property then I can understand why he didn't leave anything for the new owner to run it. I'm petty enough to admit I'd do the same thing...take everything of value that I paid for and destroy whatever I couldn't take with me. I'd probably go one step further and sow the fields with salt as a final parting gift. This whole video isn't about land reform, it's about a community of people with their hands out saying "Give me land. Give me money. Give me equipment. Give me...give me...give me." There was one worker left on that farm who was ready and willing to teach people how to work the fields, where were the others? Where was the new owner? You know...the one with no money to actually run the farm. I didn't see a community of people working together to improve their poverty stricken lives. I saw a community of people who plundered what was left of the farm and still had their hands out for more...
If i come in your place illegally, do you care if I take my stuff. Apartheid government help those occupiers build good farmer's on other people's land's, but you care about YOUR people not the one's that was displaced. Hmm...I see the descendants of your ancestors of your people still want carry they legacy evening if that means to keep suppressing other's that was mistreated by them. Don't cry victim when ya not parasite cave dwellers.
keith logan If anyone tried to illegally enter my home they would leave in a body bag. As for my ancestors, about which you know nothing, they are Turkish. So from the first Hun Empire that started in 204 bce to the end of the Ottoman Empire in 1922 ce, they plundered and enslaved pretty much everyone...indiscriminately. So nice try with the white guilt trip...I'm quite proud of my heritage. There is not a person on this earth who doesn't have an ancestor that committed some type of violence against another group of people. All wars are fought over real estate, and the farm in this video was once a good piece of real estate. You seem to think the farmer who was residing on this land was there illegally, but you fail to recognize that at the time he bought that farm, it was legal for him to own it. At the time this film was released, in 2006, Apartheid had ended 15 years earlier. It is now 2018, and and what has changed? After 27 years, you don't get to blame Apartheid anymore. South Africans need to accept the fact that they have completely screwed up by electing corrupt men and look to themselves to fix the mess they have created. I'm not going to debate the ethics of the law under Apartheid, because they don't apply to this situation in this video...which occurred 15 years later. You replied to my comment without putting any thought into your response. I don't mind debating a subject with someone who actually put a bit of effort into forming a logical response, but you haven't done that. The next time you feel the need to respond to one of my comments, make sure you think before you type. You really don't want to take me on if you can't even form a proper sentence.
keith logan So now, instead of a logical, articulate reply, you are reduced to name calling...the last resort of the truly ignorant. I don't have to defend my opinion to some anonymous person, who is incapable of rational discussion. If my opinion bothers you...I don't really care.
Liz, keep it real girl. Serving truth all day every day. Get some.
You're such a fucking idiot. Keith, black people actually FOUGHT battles to get INTO SA. Dumbfuck lib.
The old owner paid TAXES, when he left, he took what he bought.That is NOT theft.These people got that for FREE,and they STILL can't make it work.
And over 50 years,you are stil complainig.
Stupid SA fucks.
Actually, they not only farmed the land but they also raised animal stock across the plains. They are also paying taxes. The former owners have an obligation to assure the condition of the land is viable when they leave. Vandalizing the land should have consequences. I get why they are mad, however, they should be mad not for black Africans wanting their land back. They should direct their anger at their Ancestors who illegally settled the land which put them in this predicament. If the Dutch hadn't done that and if instead, they worked to assimilate with the people of Africa becoming one of the community not using abusing the people for their own profit everyone could have benefitted for the better.
He didnt take the pumps etc. The idiots that won the land claim sold it for scrap metal to buy beer with so they could sit in the sun and relax
@@codebrker24 well I hope SA won't become Zimbwabe 2.0, or 16:47
@@GuderII Rhodesia is the perfect example of why farmers of European expertise are better then those of Black. The ANC thinks redistribution land is like here have it. But that's not how it works.
" In the 1930's land taken from the original farmers was given to white farmers."
Sorry, but that's a blatant misrepresentation.
Andreas Meyer Have they ever told the truth? Does the world really know the truth? Nope. They bought to propaganda and I hope they can avoid the same in their own countries
Andreas Meyer there was never a farming culture in south africa, the europeans introduced large scale farming in africa.
Peter-john De Jong deceptive lies from Caucasians always spreading negative propaganda.
Nope, he's right. Archaeological evidence points to the fact that the largest portions of what became South Africa were utterly unused by anybody, before Whites developed it.
Most of them came to work in the gold and diamond Mines. They were not farming.
The white farmer paid and maintained for the land and equipment and when he left he took all his tools and equipment with him. how do you expect him to leave all the hard work, time and resources and give it to the people who stole it off him these people are just a bunch of jealous cry baby's who don't have the care or the will to make something for themselves
since then, there has been a new movement to make evicted white landowners to leave their belongings behind and also vacate any man made dwellings. Some go even further expected the white people to also hand over their income and savings. this has been going on for at least 20 years now to my knowledgeThe real problem is that one day they will run out of other peoples stuff to share amoungst themselves
@Rock Bottom Not even a need to do that. The ANC doesn't understand crop rotation or why some plots of land are left fallow. This is just Zimbabwe 2.0 and the fuckwits advocating for this are going to ruin any chance they had of a prosperous economics system.
ive seen their attempts at farming without the appropriate knowledge and experience. Consider them lucky if they even get one harvest a year before it goes fallow. The soil just is not fertile enough, and there are too many people because of careless population growth which is shown repeatedly in a pattern of overcrowding, need for more farms and room, and resorting to violence to get what they want. exact thing has happened before in Sudan, Ethiopia, Tanzania, Uganda, and Rwanda. South Africa will also see a shortage of water in some cities soon
SO TRUE
White farmers should burn their farms and salt the earth when they are forced to leave.
From almost being a developed country back into a 3rd world country, wth?
Hisbeautiful Truth You broke your own railroads.. civil wars.
Melvin Jansen -- Whose railroads?! I'm sure the true South Africans did not own any railroads.
They did when europe left them behind
Random South African -- How are they a plague in their own land? It's more like the minority is the plague, wouldn't you think? A plague that's far too long has gone unconstrained. Now it's beginning to be contained.
Hisbeautiful Truth I don't know who you mean are the true South Africans,. I'm thinking the native population correct?
Europe left behind valuable infrastructure wich the natives destroyed in a civil war.
Now China is doing the same thing,. Building infrastructure projects across east Africa.
I will bet my two cents the same thing will happen again.
That South African farmer left the writing on the wall, literally...
A few of the white farmers have come to Australia and I'd like to say we welcome you guys, hard working honest blokes with character.
They aren't blokes by any manner dude
Give me your land.
'OK'
give me your pumps
'The land is all you get'
Give me your trucks,
'No'
Give me..... give me....... give me.........
Watch everything turn to crap, that is fact it has been proven time and time again.
david 12 That's a load of crap show me one black country that is politically and economically stable,. Dream on........
david 12 Yes David I am from Africa born and raised there for fifty years, I know more than most people in the world all about Africa and am not fooled by the media, I have seen every country in Africa turn to crap that has been handed over to them, sorry to say.
david 12 You believe what you want to, if you want to stay ignorant that is your choice, Merry Christmas and God bless you and your family..
Its ok, it will still be the white man's fault.
handsome devil well then live that way, tell the others to stop asking for aid
When you steal land from productive land owners and then flip it to people who have no vested interest or stock in it, there will be no successful outcome, this land reacquisition is no better than theft. This is basically a how to guide on how to drive wealth and prosperity out of your community.
Giving land to unproductive people kills the economy.
FFS . . . you get the land for free, you want government to give you money and implements to farm that land and if that is not enough you complain that the previous owner took his property with him and didn't work the land while you waited to finalize your own process?
Houws Houlinou lmao
Houws Houlinou
Literally what happened for whites lol
The government supported the original white farmers
Houws Houlinou. Exactly.
But even with free land and money you can't succeed if you don't have the know- how. I come from a wine growing family and it's a very complicated process to grow grapes, harvesting, wine producing and marketing. There is a whole lot of skills and hard work learned by generations that's required to farm.
Have you ever heard the expression 'handout brigade'? There you go! And your comments are right on the button. Well said.
I used to work on a dairy farm for 10 years and many comments here are correct in saying you don't turn the school over to the children. Farming isn't as simple as spreading some seed and feeding the animals, that's how a child looks at it. The farmer I worked for held a masters degree in biochemistry and every farm kid usually holds a university degree within the field. It was a necessity in the 20th century and it certainly is now. These dummies have no understanding of crop rotation, soil pH, knowledge of bacteria, pest control, soil fertilization, modern computerized farm equipment let alone an understanding of the complex math behind keeping a farm sustainable. Farmers in Canada are well off but certainly not rich, middle class if anything; and that takes a 14 hour work day, most have a side business and work a normal job on top. The only rich "farmers" are equestrian breeders which aren't really farmers. Every excuse I hear in this Doc is "we need our hand held" or "we need the government to show us" to "whitey broke the farm". Some are trained to do a specific job on the farm, that's great; but don't expect an expert of driving a bulldozer to be able to use a drafting program like autocad to design one.
If white farmers leave they'll starve to DEATH !!!
Veryvteue and correct . All the British estate given over to us in west Africa since 1960 after independence have failed
Farming is not an easy task. The blacks have a different picture . Owning land doesn't make it rich. Tell my fellow black African
We told you so.
Charles van Dijk Caucasians with your negative propaganda.
And you with your gigantic morals. How valuable.
Charles van Dijk They are happy now
I guess you like starvation Keith.
Charles van Dijk 7655u7 7655u7
So they thought that the farms ran themselves? From what you hear the blacks did all the work. So why do they not know how the farm works and how to run it? If each person did their job as they would have, then it should still work. You know, since they did all the work. I really do not understand. Am I missing something?
Tom Angle they think farming is going to make them rich that is the first mistake they made, if a farmer has money it is because he borrowed it from the bank.
I know quite a few farmers who actually make money.
Tom Angle my father, brother, uncles, grandfather, father in law and most of my friends are farmers and I can promise you most of them are struggling.
It is true some farmers make money. My comment was ment to be humorous.
So how did they not know how to run the farms? They should of picked up the day to day of the operations and been able to carry on.
Philthy McNasty no they are the farm owners working for themselves. There was never slavery in south-Africa, some farmers dit treat there workers badly but they could quit and leave.
Isnt it funny that most black South Africans ancestors dont even come from South Africa, but from further North. They have as much claim to South African lands as the white Afrikaners, and the original inhabitants, the Khoikhoi, are the most marginalized and least represented.
So true, belongs to the Sans people.
What a fucked up country.
Aussie Militant no. People who are closer related to the natives have more of a right. Just like a Dutch person has more right to live in Spain than a black persons does.
You dont have a right to african soil, remember what happened to isrealits who stole the soil from uganda during the amins regime, the soil they took were equivalant to their wages, he told them not to claim for their wages to pay themselves with the soil they stole
Wondering Spirit
One of the stupidest reasoning I’ve ever read.if you plan to farm with that same brain,good night and good luck
As you leave , salt the soil real good and bulldoze the house and outbuildings..........leave them nothing..
FAA Inspector why?
pale blue dot if your land is about to be stolen from you , ruin the fields , burn the buildings to the ground , so they inherit nothing from your hard work and investment............leave them nothing because theives deserve nothing....
I am European with a wife from Curacoa,she is black.
Wel she think the same.
Burn the houses,and the fields.
S.A is stupid as fuck,the saw what hapend in Zimbabwe.
And doing the same shit to ruin there econemy.
FAA Inspector the land is enough,they can go build their houses in Siberia!
I don't agree with salting the land (it's just an extra cost) but I would have bulldozed and burnt every structure ,cut down all the grapes, fruit trees ect......any development I had done to make it into a working farm. Then they can have the land back.
I demand the cultural appropriation end. Stop using agriculture, technology, medicine and Technology in general. Now, good luck succeeding with the Afrikaners.
The Afrikaners are some of the best Farmers in the world, making use of land that is subject to harsh conditions with many problems that need to be overcome, it is very difficult to farm. The South Africans have failed to recognise the great treasure these people are to the country and are driving them from the land, when they should be giving them every incentive to stay and expand.
Hilarious....did these people think that the leaving Farmer was going to keep maintaining equipment or not take everthing they could with them....that was bought with their money?....That African kept saying they stole it!!!! Of course the leaving farmer is taking his stuff with him..... Hopefully he salted the land and broke everthing he could. Pay back is a bitch!
You sound really hurt by this pink rat
If I was a South African white farmer and I knew that the government was going to confiscate my land, I would get my family and what money I had out of the country. I would then sabotage as much of the farm as possible before I got out. I would leave as little as possible.
They PAID for the pump, therefore it isn't stolen unless someone else stole it.Take your happy little black ass out and install some rain cisterns and get another pump,GEEZ.Put on that thinking cap if you have one.Good Lord.
Moviestar Memories they can’t think abstractly or at all for that matter.
Thieving nation steal everything, then beg for handouts. They opened borders and now look at the mess. So they got rid of one group of landlords, to replace them with another...
So why are they so eager to take that land when they can't even use it XD
It doesn't matter to them what will be done on the land, just as long as whites don't have it. You see - these people are a jealous people. They cannot uplift themselves so they want to pull down others until they are better than them by default
You don't turn the school over to the children. This will turn into a horrible mess because they don't know what they are doing.
Hey shagwellington you don't take land from people and claim it for yourself it's called stealing
@@Dwarf19864 I wish these racist fools would do their research on sf and If they are honest. They would know the true inhabitants and first inhabitants are black Africans. This crap sounds like the white settlers and the native American
Technically, it should go back to the bushman not the "native" people of South Africa as you see it now. If it's going to go back to the original owners
shagwellington you must be white😅
cant make it without whitey plain and simple. but still put the blame on him.who makes everything required to run the business?we will never make it without him.
without a good farmer and good management you get no yields
So basically the natives are fucked😀
@@Puddingtops look at Mugabe's Rhodesia and you know enough
Let them starve, who cares.
Lola Casteel clearly not you
Panic much?
handsome devil they would most of them if they could, most white countries ran by white hating liberals, they don't want them
Well I tell you people might care a lot more if you weren't raping and murdering whole white families
Love you lola
A decade later the farm was about to shut down, but a Russian investor stepped in to revamp and in stall new equipment. Poor Russian doesn't know he just throwing away his money.
I dunno, that could be Russian Mafia and they are not to be messed with, got a lot of fire power as well.
I have a young man from South Africa working on my farm here in Montana. He never wants to return. It is rapidly becoming a third-world country under a corrupt government.
@@pyotrtchaikovsky9097 Yes I am
1 White farmer is equal to 50 black farmers
more many more
That ovenexaggerate!
But that true that the black lack skill....
(What their gov does are the fact of good proof!)
3:53 . Wilson is worth nothing. Not ever a cell inn the boddys of a farmer, black or white. Lazy!
I just have to remember a quote: "I left it the way I found it." - Ellis Wyatt, Atlas shrugged
The writing on the wall is absolutely correct.
absolutely agree
16:48 Thanks me later
Heartbreaking to see a vineyard die. My family owned vineyards. I worked for nothing. But it was satisfying work. Beautiful land too. My idiot mother couldn't run it after divorcing her husband. By that time I had escaped. Went back 20 years later. It was in shambles. All that work...
what country ?
j mc USA. Geneva, Ohio
I am sincerely sorry your inheritence was stolen. You do deserve great respect, for not getting what was owed to you. I feel your pain. Come to British Columbia Canada, Seek the various PASSPORT VARIATIONS FOR YOUR ENTRY. You seem sincere, and can prove your ability, PLS COME BE WELCOMED AND LIVE IN PEACE AGSIN !!!
From farming back to hunting-gathering.
No respect for private property rights whatsoever. Just sad.
It seems, it wasn't their land, merely because they turned the grass, sand, rock, and weeds to soil. Their sweat equity of planting, watering, pruning, weeding was wasted, because they allegedly stole the raw natural land, used by countless generations of foragers. Buying or building the infrastructure, pumps, pipes, housing, equipment, and storage space for crops was ludicris, because they ALL know how to feed themselves the old way !! FORAGING !! DIG MAN... DIG !!
Kinda like detroit...
Blacks in charge of food production, what could go wrong?
People will go hungry and blame the white man for it
Only in africa where a house gets broken down to build a shack
"They stole all the equipment" Yeah, the people that owned it and took it with them are thieves. The sad part is, these people actually believe it is theft and are angry about it. Who would leave stuff they can use later, especially when they own it?
Why would anyone expect a farmer that has been robbed of his farm to leave his tools and machines. I would have made certain to bulldoze the land as others have suggested. They were lucky to have been given anything.
Wait, am I supposed to feel bad that they MURDERED Afrikkaners and are now regretting it...?
There wasn’t a black man near when the Europeans came to South Africa, they made the hostile environment fertile. Then black men from north came and claimed the land when it was all booming
din't the lands belong to the white farmers 300 years ago, when they bought it from the original tribes or even found it uninhabited?
Yes. No one was in that place owning it. Boers founded it and built it from nothing into something. Then black Africans wanted in.
and now those former farms are barren and unproductive. The people are starving and almost out of water
1985 was the last life aid ever.
These times are over and gone.
Its survival of the smartest.
There doomed.
Just very natural.
They reap what they sow. Or in this case what they didn’t.
Lime Trees and a Beef cow farm, the two successes they have little efforts to work. Trees grow, cows breed. Tough work for a farmer to deal with, indeed.
Thoes farms were running just fine with the previous owners why change it ?
I wonder what will happen when they run out of other peoples stuff to redistribute?
They just want to own the land. They have no desire to run the farm or work the land, they just want to have a control over it.
African greed without sense of direction. Commercial agriculture is not easy to run
Here is the main problem as I see it. The land was taken from the tribe in the 1930s when it was still possible to do subsistence farming and just basically survive. That was tribal life back then. The people that owned the land after that has developed and invested in that land to make a successful commercial farm. The problem now is that times have changed aswell as the lifestyle of the tribe. They equate land with wealth because the farmer was wealthy. They still want to live in the traditional way but with all the benefits and luxuries of the western/modern world. The two doesnt work in unison.
Turn the land over and see it collapse ....Zimbabwe.....and so on ...
Poor victims...I guess they are doomed until someone else starts doing their work or money starts raining out of the sky.
Is this Wakanda? On a serious note, it sounds like these people just wanted a fully functional business with little to no work involved on their own part.
LOL they should take some lessons from Texas, we did it ourselves.They have GOOD land there.This is an IQ problem.
The Dutch are the 3e exporters of foods.
On a landscale,Florida is more than 4 times bigger than the Netherland.
These farmers of SA are most Dutch and German.
So if you want effective land and horticulture and livestock farming.
There the one who can do it for you.
Afro Bliss LAZY assholes. Unless they are killing whites. Then they’ll be jumping around with childlike energy.
What happened when the white farmers were removed in Zimbabwe? Oh yea the country starved and begged the whites to come back and farm the land!
A farm is much more than land. It is also expertise, equipment, credit for operating expenses, and a guiding mind to make good decisions. It is normal for a business leaving a property to liquidate things of value. Banks repossess equipment when the monthly payments stop. It takes years of preparation, and a chain of right decisions, and one major error can lose a crop. And thieves begin to steal the first day the owner moves away, the day he stops paying guards. And while the thieves make the farm unworkable, the new owners are singing and dancing.
Please educate my African brother. Land and farms are two different acquisation. It's not easy to run the farms
Let em struggle. You reap what you sow
Get rid of the farmers that feed you, because that makes a lot of sense said voodoo Afrikaans.
Nice now they want fully equipped farms. No experience but they want all YOUR hardwork.
At least they can struggle now...........the ability to self determine to succeed or fail at your own account
Darren ss Osborne to whom do you reffer?
do you understand what reply means ?
Darren ss Osborne no I don't speak tard sorry...... But a Barbarian calling anyone else on this planet is beyond ironic
At least I get to starve and struggle and don't have to eat food a man born with white skin grew......................yes great alternative.
Ashly Cleye somehow we've managed to survive millions of years without you 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
SA the shining example of what an advanced African country looks like.
10:02 Uuuuuh... WHY NOT? Seems to me like it should be the new owners' responsibility to have a productive farm! And if they can't/won't do it, then give the farm back to the previous owners!
they want whats on the land, the infrastructure etc the tractors & all the tools! Everything they have touched has turned to shit!
So you see something that is successful and makes a lot of money , so the prize is very big -- you will say anything and do anything to get your hands on that ---Tell me one thing - would they want it if it was a desert with sand ??
8:05 “if they don’t give back our land we will take it back with force.” You are robbing and just bullying a man. Prove he took it by force. Because it really looks like he paid for it.
@Tommy Vercetti wtf no
Hang on, I thought they were after the land, what does it matter if the previous owner chooses to destroy the dwelling he built on it? That should be irrelevant, in fact even encouraged because he is returning the land in a similar stat to how it originally would have been. In the end this isn’t really about ‘traditional land ‘at all, it’s just about getting free stuff.
The short road to hunger. No plans. Everything is done on emotions. Zimbabwe here we come.
Wow they are complaining about the conditions of the buildings THEY DID NOT BUILD, stop complaining and fix it or build another JUST like the land owner before them did.
"We want what we did not work for, we want to reap what we did not sow... We need you to continue to wipe our asses for us so that we can make what we have stolen work." That is what I would paraphrase this documentary's purpose to be
The Blinkwater farm - a PERFECT example of where this is all going! Dear GOD, we can't leave for Oz fast enough!
Steal the land from the rightful owners then complain that the people you stole it from are not running it for you or teaching you how to run it. The previous owners also took the equipment they paid for with them so they have "stolen" it. Unbelievable.
Hope the farmers buldoze everything they build b4 leaving.
A friend of mine had a farm in Africa employed 200 people educate their children at his cost spoke highly of his employees but gave up and came back to England his reasons rampant corruption and appalling Government..
failed state
Emperor du nord y
Anytime they have to "return" the land they should strip it of everything on their way out. Rip up all the plumbing, dismantle every brick. Take all the improvements to the land with them when they go. Destroy it all
So this guy is upset that the former owner took his pump and all the equipment with him !!! So the truth is that they wanted this farm when they saw it was successful but as soon as there was a problem they didn’t want it. . They want everything on a plate in front of them and don’t want to work for it. Ok hand over all the farms but before they do it they should leave it how they found it , no buildings , no animals , no equipment no water supply ,in fact No Nothing ! ! And what will they do then -- A Big Nothing !!
They may steal the land but if it were me I'd burn down every building and grab everything I ever bought.They are still getting more than the original landowner started with.
in order to give them land you have to take it from somebody else and you expect that somebody else to support the people to whom it is being given to when it is stolen from them
So the white farmers have their land stolen and you expected them to leave all the machinery ,pumps etc on the farm and walk away .Give your head a shake . That is their property they worked and paid for it .The homes they built . Then the new black people that own the land do not understand farming and now blame the government for not sending in people to train them ? They do not have money to buy new equipment .Do they know how to maintain equipment ? So what was the issue with white farmers who employed many and made the land bloom .I would say it was that they were white . So discrimination goes both ways . Only problem is the land was productive under the white farmers .Now the farms are not productive and everything is falling apart .Unemployment is rising and no crops are being grown . Not everyone knows how to run a farm .It takes experience ,business acumen and hard work .
I'd take my equipment and anything of worth and bulldoze anything that wasn't there before I got there. Make them start from scratch and see how far they get
Who stole the pumps🤣. Then they clear all the trees for fire wood and its the farmers fault because he didnt invest money?
what a great hustle. Hey that land with the resort and nice farm you built on it from the ground up was taken from my people nearly 100 years ago. Give it back.
I left Africa 17 years ago. When people here ask me if I miss it, I just tell them the reasons why I left are still there & I really don't give a shit whether Africa sinks or swims anymore.
You surely are non-African!
+OtheDaddy I was born in Lusaka, Zambia. This city is so named after Chief Lusaakas whose village was there before the Capital City was established there. So by birthright I am a Sole, not a chi-Nyanja. My Zambian National Registration Card acknowledges this as such. I also am a non-believer in the Mohammedan faith. These two facts means that I am indeed a kaffir. Far more so than the masses who have never drank the waters of the Zambezi, but who claim to be African because they have black skin through their accident of birth.
You said it all.
A black in Africa is not born through an accident but a conscious decision by his/her parents to produce another African, in any darker shade of black. I assume.
If one is black, born in Africa or not, and has no emotion or commitment to the mother continent, then he or she is non-African.
+OtheDaddy Prove your commitment, words are mere chaff blown away with the wind, put your money where your mouth is. Go back to the Mother land & see if you can intergrate yourself there. Just remember, you have racism & it's not very fashionable, in Africa, they have tribalism, & it is very fashionable. But all, this dialogue will be to no avail, in thirty years or so, Africa will be yellow, not black. The Chinese race for African colonies is on. We'll soon see the masses demand "one man, one vote", but with a very different outcome indeed.
I like how the "native village , including cemetery" (5:50) that was built as a tourist attraction on the resort has been accepted as evidence of ancestral occupation, including evidence of burial sites. Both sides of the dispute and the government department know there is no authentic tribal village on the site.
aw, did the farmer take his own stuff that he bought stopping the people from stealing that too? and now they're crying about it because they want it for free as well?
The gear was, 'vandalized'!
So, no worky! No money to fix it!
Problem!
I'm kinda curious why they never mentioned all the white south african land owners that will slaughtered when there farms were taken.
Comparing lime to grape growing,L.O.L
Those farmlands 100 years ago were bought fair and square, its not fair for the black majority South African government to take it from the boer without any compensation
Look like they don't learn the lesson from Zimbabwe !
Good luck producing a huge farm full of food, when you are working with sticks for tools and men with shovels for backhoes. Good luck converting the desert back into farm land.
You only have to look at Zimbabwe to see how well NOT getting rid of 99pc of the White Farmers has worked. Disastrous.
are you talking about when Zimbabwe drove out all the white land owners then proceeded to starve and suffer hyper inflation until their dictator Mugabe was eventually removed by the military and replaced by a man now begging for white farmers to come back and farm the land on a 99 year lease?
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Yes. But I wonder if they will return. Do you think they just won't trust whoever is in power because it could happen again. I wonder which African country is producing all its own food.
The farmer when they came to this country also worked hard to establish their farms. So why don't they do the same. They had to fetch and find water. They had to build their homes. Plant their crops etc.
Lol plz come 2 usa, farmers u will be so much happier. And realy respected . 86% will love u
10 years on an 70% of farm land now lay fallow..
Farming practices are not some big secret that only a few can understand. Farming is a matter of hard work and good practices. You can research methods and learn how to do it. The Black people in South Africa are highly wise and intelligent and extremely industrious and proud. I'm sure that if they have land they will make it produce with greater abundance than ever before. As for the white farmer. He can go to another country and grow lots of food for them and pay taxes and be a good citizen some where else. Everyone will be happy.
Everyone but the white farmer. What planet are you on?
If land is being taken without compensation, the white owner has the right to take or destroy all the buildings, equipment, and anything else he or she put on the land. If I had my land taken from me, I'd sell what I could, giveaway equipment to other farmers who also purchased their farms, and destroy everything else. I'd leave nothing for them. If there was a mud hut there prior, I'd have another built. There is no way I would "give" anything of value to those taking my land away from me. I'd even destroy grape Vines or whatever renewing crop was on the farm.
90% of the land was either purchased, traded, or had some agreement with the tribes who occasionally occupied the land. It isn't like there is a shortage of land for the blacks to start up their own farm. This is all happening because they want everything the white man put on their farms. They want the white man's house, barns and storage facilities, renewing crops, tools, equipment, heavy machinery, and everything else the white man spent money on to invest in their farms. Like I said, if my farm was going to be taken, everything of value would be cleared off the land. Including the crops. You are not getting what I put my blood, sweat, tears, and money into. The population is too great for the country to not have these large industrial farms to feed them all. Instead of giving these farms to individuals who know nothing of industrial farming, these farms should be owned and operated by the government to ensure the food supply doesn't turn into dust.
Nothing is stopping the blacks from going into the bush, building a mud hut, and living like their ancestors. Instead they want everything white people created given to them. The government and politicians promised more than they can ever deliver. The racist apartheid was a tragic and inhumane system that should have never happened. I have three white S. African friends who had to flee after testifying against fellow police officers for beating, torturing, and killing blacks.
Perhaps the only fair system for all involved is to split the country into two separate countries. Now there is ramped reverse racism against white, browns, and non-Africian blacks. The true African blacks are punishing the whites and browns for what their racist ancestors did. One can never expect to get something for nothing. The country should have been divided into two countries rather than the sickening apartheid. All white lands that were either purchased, traded or legally obtained during the early Dutch years, should become a new country. Any areas inside this zone which was taken illegally should be purchased or traded by way of redrawing the border.
Since dividing the country into two isn't likely to happen and the government has failed to provide for it's people, the government needs to be flushed with and entirely new set of politicians. Since foreigners now own the majority of wealth producing mines and enterprises, a profit sharing condition should be mandatory. If such foreign companies don't wish to abide by the new profit sharing system, they can pack their bags, equipment, and leave the country. Regaining control of their wealth providing natural resources sold while the country was in duress, would help to build the socialist country the people voted for.
I have citrus trees I never water or feed or take care of and they produce a bumper crop that rots on the ground. They think they can do it because of the citrus? L
There is plenty of smart capable black people in South Africa,but with no or slow government support they are destined for failure, all governments around the world help their farmers, but the crappy South Africa government doesn’t have enough dissent people in it, but when things hit rock bottom they will be forced to include they , so even though it’s bad now I’m afraid it will have to get worse before it gets better
I would like to know if this land that was supposedly taken in the 1930`s was paid for by the white farmers, If it was was this fact convienently forgotten?
No one was farming that land. No one claimed it. No one seemed to own it.
It wasn’t until it was made into something black Africans showed up demanding entry and work.
I’m an Australian, we have in place Native Titles legislation. We also have “Land Councils”, which are elected boards of indigenous people. The Land Councils are funded from public money, that is, taxpayers. About 50 kilometres from my home is a nice farm, call it “NF”. The relevant Land Council bought NF about 40 years ago. Within 5 years NF had been “run into the ground”. The Land Council then sold it at a loss. Fast forward another 10 years, the Land Council was given a grant by the Federal Government to buy NF again, they did, at 6 times the price they had sold it 10 years before. Fast forward 5 years, NF has been “run into the ground”, the land council sold NF at a loss. Fast forward another 10 years, the Land Council bought NF again, for 40 times the price they had originally bought it for. The Land Council has owned NF now for 15 years, it is fallow, no animals, no crops, unpaid Local Government fees.
I really hope these farmers in sa hire a paramilitary group to come take care of their govt. or the Russians: that would be cool too
that is what happen when you enroll natives only as hands ensuring they never learn anything
of course they struggle! They have been used to just wait until fruit fell in their heads! They have never farmed much at all!
All i hear in this video is complaining that they don't have any equipment or the old equipment has been broken or stolen. but who exactly engineered and built that equipment from scratch?!?!?!? definitely not black people.