Why Islam? Towards Eternity Explains! (Christian reaction to dawah)
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Back in December, the Towards Eternity channel attempted to explain why Islam is the one true religion. With nearly 800,000 views on the video and over 2 million subscribers on the channel, it seems like Muslims like what they had to say. So let's see if their arguments actually hold up to scrutiny or if they are the usual empty rhetoric backed by high production value that typically impresses. David S. joins me to react live (having never seen the video).
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Allah calls to die for him, Christ calls to live for him.
To live for him bcos he already died for u to make that possible
Great stream. Thank you for sharing.
My post, Some Notes On the Seven Sleepers
S 18:11 So we struck over their ears in the cave a number of years.
Why couldn't 'Allah' give the number?
S 18:18 And you think them awake while they are asleep. And we turn them to the right and to the left and their dog stretching his arms at the threshold. Had you looked at them you would have turned away from them in flight and been filled with terror because of them.
Does a dog have arms? 'Their dog' is probably a result of a misreading of an unpointed text, which had something like kaliuhum 'their protector' rather than kalbuhum 'their dog'. The 'protector' would likely have been an angel with his arms outstretched. Now, had there been an angel standing there then this would more likely fill people with terror, rather than a few boys.
S 18:22 They will say: Three, the fourth of them their dog; and they say: Five, the sixth of them their dog. A conjecture about the ghayb. And they say: Seven, and the eighth of them their dog. Say: My lord knows their ‘iddah. None knows them but a few. So do not argue about them except with a clear argument. And do not enquire about them from anyone among them.
Why is the author counting the dog? The author goes on to say: "Five, the sixth of them their dog.", when he should have said: 'Four, the fifth of them their dog.' and he continues in that vein. As this is evidently a known story, why doesn't 'Allah' give the correct number? What's the big open secret? And is the author trying to dissuade his audience from enquiring into the accepted number?
Further reading:
Seven Sleepers of Ephesus in the Qur'an - WikiIslam
Companions of the Cave (Sources) - WikiIslam
Without Islam there is no lie
I bet any amount that this Dawah man never was sceptical about Jibreel. Whenever Muslims try to prove Islam they never even bother trying to prove Jibreel exists (obviously because that's impossible), yet that is the starting point for Islam. Their narrative is about Muhammad getting revelation through Jibreel an Angel. That's the most important aspect for Islam to prove, if any Muslim is trying to prove Islam is true, and they never bother doing that.
Hello HJEvan 👋. Yes. They need to prove Mohammad was not making the whole thing up. Given that he was not a moral person and he was deluded and suicidal, we can assume he wasn't.
"It's true that discussions about Islam often center around the belief in Jibreel (Gabriel) delivering revelations to Muhammad. For many Muslims, this forms a crucial aspect of their faith. However, proving the existence of spiritual beings like Jibreel isn't typically approached in the same empirical way as historical events or scientific phenomena. Instead, it often relies on personal faith and religious texts as sources of belief. Different individuals and traditions within Islam may emphasize various aspects when discussing the truth of their faith."
I enjoyed that stream. For one the video you reacted to was funnily weak, but also the deeper points you brought, especially towards the end with the Greek word of fulfilling the law or sins of babies.
Hello Philipp Brogli my old friend! How are you?
@@ProfYaffle An intensive project has finished a few weeks ago and I could do some other stuff like finishing the taxes. In a few weeks my exams of that semester start and in the meantime I want to work on another project for school for as much as I can.
And when it comes to the free time it also has loosened up after a busy few months.
How about you? Are you enjoying UA-cam?
Dawah Man: To construct a building, you need to start from the foundation!
--> illustrates his argument with a diagram of a building
--> diagram has no foundation
This causes pain to my structural engineer soul.
So, basically it is a perfect visual of his argument? :)
May Allah and Buddha and God bless you
Towards Eternity could have done with a high school science teacher as his science is only marginally better than Allah's:
- grass is extremely useful for our ecosystems. There are many different species and it contributes habitat and food and adds to biodiversity of life. The leaves contain cellolose, only edible by ruminants, but the seeds are edible to humans. Wheat, barley and oats are grass. Moreover a country with lush grass is beautiful imho.
- soil is not necessary for fruit production. Fruit comprises sugars made primarily from carbon dioxide and water, (not soil). The formation of sugars requires light energy. Plants in hydroponic systems dont need soil.
- bees on next comment
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A simple Google before spouting would have told our friend that queen honey bees aren't leaders. They are baby making machines (just like Muslim women!)
"Along with reproduction, the Queen maintains the hive's strength by secreting a special pheromone that unites the bees and keeps them working together for the good of the colony". Secreting pheromones isn't leadership, but maybe Mohammad also had an extra portion of certain hormones.
It’s almost unbelievable how bad Dawah arguments are. This is one of their BEST guys?
From, Muhammad as Al-Amin (the Trustworthy) [1]
A typical argument often made by Muslim polemicists in defense of their prophet’s honesty is that Muhammad was given the epithet Al-Ameen (or Amin), meaning the Trustworthy, by his kinsmen long before his alleged commission by God. They gave him this title, so it is claimed, because they considered him to be the best man among them, one who was never known to have told a lie. The following hadith is submitted as evidence for this assertion:
"… He [Heraclius] said, ‘Had you ever blamed him for telling lies before he claimed what he claimed?’ I replied, ‘No.’ … He said, ‘Does he break his promises?’ I replied, ‘No, but we are now at truce with him and we are afraid that he may betray us.’ … . ‘When I asked you whether he was ever blamed for telling lies, your reply was in the negative, so I took it for granted that a person who did not tell a lie about (others) the people could never tell a lie about Allah. I asked you whether he had ever broken his promise. You replied in the negative. And such are the apostles; they never break their promises…’" (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 191)
Here, Abu Sufyan, who was Muhammad’s enemy at this time, admitted in an alleged meeting he had with the Byzantium emperor Heraclius that Muhammad never told a lie and always kept his word.
The following is another narration quoted by Muslims to support that even unbelievers readily admitted that Muhammad was never known to have lied to anyone:
It is reported on the authority of Ibn 'Abbas that when this verse was revealed: "And warn thy nearest kindred (and thy group of selected people among them)" the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) set off till he climbed Safa' and called loudly: Be on your guard! They said: Who is it calling aloud? They said: Muhammad. They gathered round him, and he said: O sons of so and so, O sons of so and so, O sons of 'Abd Manaf, O sons of 'Abd al-Muttalib, and they gathered around him. He (the Apostle) said: If I were to inform you that there were horsemen emerging out of the foot of this mountain, would you believe me? They said: We have not experienced any lie from you. He said: Well, I am a warner to you before a severe torment. He (the narrator) said that Abu Lahab then said: Destruction to you! Is it for this you have gathered us? He (the Holy Prophet) then stood up, and this verse was revealed: "Perish the hands of Abu Lahab, and he indeed perished" (cxi. 1). A'mash recited this to the end of the Sura. (Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0406)
Muslims believe (*) that the foregoing narratives provide persuasive evidence that Muhammad was of an impeccable character and wasn't someone who would simply make up a false claim that God had chosen him to be his prophet/messenger.
There are several problems with this claim, not the least of which is the fact that there are no written records produced by Muhammad’s contemporaries that have come down to us. All the records that we do have were written by Muslims, and even these were produced long after Muhammad’s death.
Moreover, these Islamic reports are suspect since Muslims have/had the tendency of fabricating stories and statements in order to make Islam’s prophet look much better, even better than the Quran’s depiction of him! It, therefore, doesn’t come as a surprise that such sources would have Muhammad’s enemies speaking highly of his character and honesty.
Additionally, the Quran serves as a witness against this oft-repeated assertion since it actually records the statements of the unbelievers:
We know indeed that it grieves thee the things they say; yet it is not thee they cry lies to, but the evildoers - it is the signs of God that they deny. S. 6:33 Arberry
And if they call you a liar, say: My work is for me and your work for you; you are clear of what I do and I am clear of what you do. S. 10:41 Shakir
And they say: "O you (Muhammad SAW) to whom the Dhikr (the Qur'an) has been sent down! Verily, you are a mad man (majnoonun). Why do you not bring angels to us if you are of the truthful ones?" S. 15:6
And when We change a Verse [of the Qur'an, i.e. cancel (abrogate) its order] in place of another, and Allah knows the best of what He sends down, they (the disbelievers) say: "You (O Muhammad SAW) are but a Muftari! (forger, liar)." Nay, but most of them know not. S. 16:101 Hilali-Khan
But the misbelievers say: "Naught is this but a lie which he has forged, and others have helped him at it." In truth it is they who have put forward an iniquity and a falsehood. And they say: "Tales of the ancients, which he has caused to be written: and they are dictated before him morning and evening." Say: "The (Qur'an) was sent down by Him who knows the mystery (that is) in the heavens and the earth: verily He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." S. 25:4-6 Y. Ali
And if they call you a liar, truly apostles before you were called liars, and to Allah are all affairs returned. S. 35:4 Shakir
But of course, the Muslims will merely dismiss these as the false assertions and allegations of the unbelievers, an argument which merely exposes the inconsistency of Muslim polemics. After all, they are the ones appealing to the statements of the disbelievers to prove that Muhammad was a trustworthy person. But if their testimony is reliable enough to support Muhammad’s integrity then the unbelievers are also a good enough source to call his character into question. It is apparent that the Muslims want to have their cake and eat it too.
Muslims may contend that the Quran says that the disbelievers said the same thing about the other messengers and prophets which neither Jews nor Christians would accept. This argument is irrelevant for at least two reasons: First, God provided supernatural verification that these prophets and messengers were speaking on his behalf, showing that the claims of the disbelievers were false. Muhammad, on the other hand, failed to provide any supernatural confirmation that he was speaking on behalf of God. Secondly, the issue here is not whether what the unbelievers said was correct, but whether the Muslim assertion that even the disbelievers praised Muhammad’s honesty is true. As the Quran testifies, their comments were anything but flattering to Muhammad.
More importantly, the Islamic reports provide ample evidence that Muhammad was far from being completely trustworthy and reliable. He wasn’t the beacon of virtue and honesty that Muslims make him out to be.
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For instance, Muhammad would lie, and permitted his followers to lie, if it assisted in attaining a specific objective:
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab)." The Prophet said, "You may say it." … So Muhammad bin Maslama went in together with two men, and said to them, "When Ka'b comes, I will touch his hair and smell it, and when you see that I have got hold of his head, strip him. I will let you smell his head." Kab bin Al-Ashraf came down to them wrapped in his clothes, and diffusing perfume. Muhammad bin Maslama said, "I have never smelt a better scent than this." Ka'b replied. "I have got the best ‘Arab women who know how to use the high class of perfume." Muhammad bin Maslama requested Ka'b, "Will you allow me to smell your head?" Ka’b said, "Yes." Muhammad smelt it and made his companions smell it as well. Then he requested Ka'b again, "Will you let me (smell your head)?" Ka'b said, "Yes." When Muhammad got a strong hold of him, he said (to his companions), "Get at him!" So they killed him and went to the Prophet and informed him. (Abu Rafi) was killed after Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 369)
And:
When Kaybar[sic] had been conquered al-Hajjaj b. ‘Ilat al-Sulami of the clan al-Bahz said to the apostle, ‘I have money with my wife Umm Shayba d. Abu Talha-when they lived together he had a son called Mur‘id by her- and money scattered among the Meccan merchants, so give me permission to go and get it.’ Having got his permission he said, ‘I must tell lies.’ The Apostle said, ‘TELL THEM.’ Al-Hajjaj, ‘When I came to Mecca, I found in the pass of al-Bayda some men of Quraysh trying to get news and asking how the apostle fared because they had heard that he had gone to Khaybar. They knew that it was the principal town of Hijaz in fertility, fortifications, and population, and they were searching for news and interrogating passing riders. They did not know that I was a Muslim and when they saw me they said, "It is al-Hajjaj b. ‘Ilat. He is sure to have news. Tell us, O Abu Muhammad, for we have heard that the highwayman has gone to Khaybar which is the town of the Jews and the garden of the Hijaz." I said, "I have heard that and I have some news that will please you." They came up eagerly on either side of my camel, saying, "Out with, Hajjaj!" I said, "He has suffered a defeat such as you have never heard of and his companions have been slaughtered; you have never heard the like, and Muhammad has been captured." The men of Khaybar said, "We will not kill him until we send him to Mecca abd let them kill him among themselves in revenge for their men whom he has killed." They got up and shouted in Mecca, "Here’s news for you! You have only to wait for this fellow Muhammad to be sent to you to be killed in your midst." I said, "Help me collect my money in Mecca and to get in the money owed to me, for I want to go to Khaybar to get hold of the fugitives from Muhammad and his companions before the merchants get there". They got up and collected my money for me quicker than I could have supposed possible. I went to my wife and asked her for the money which she had by her, telling her that I should probably go to Khaybar and seize the opportunity to buy before the merchants got there first. When ‘Abbas heard the news and heard about me he came and stood at my side as I was in one of the merchants’ tents, asking about the news which I had brought. I asked him if he could keep a secret if I entrusted it to him. He said he could, and I said, "Then wait until I can meet you privately, for I am collecting my money as you see me, so leave (T. and he left me) until I have finished"; and so, when I had collected everything I had in Mecca and decided to leave, I met ‘Abbas and said, "Keep my story secret for three nights, then say what you will for I am afraid of being pursued." When he said that he would, I said, "I left your brother’s son married to the daughter of their king, meaning Safiya, and Khaybar has been conquered and all that is in it removed and become the property of Muhammad and his companions." He said, "What are you saying, Hajjaj?" I said, "Yes, by Allah, but keep my secret. I have become a Muslim and have come only to get my money fearing that I may be deprived of it. When three nights have passed publish the news as you will." When the third day came ‘Abbas put on a robe of his and scented himself and took his stick, and went to Ka‘ba and went round it. When the people saw him they said, "O Abu’l-Fadl, this is indeed steadfastness in a great misfortune!" He answered, "By no means, by Allah by whom you swear, Muhammad has conquered Khaybar and was left married to the daughter of their king. He has seized all that they possess and it is now his property and the property of his companions." They asked, "Who brought you this news?" He said, "the man who brought you your news. He came in to you as a Muslim and has taken his money and gone off to join Muhammad and his companions and to be with him." They said, "O men of Allah, the enemy of Allah has escaped. Had we known we would have dealt with him." Almost at once the true news reached them.’ (The Life of Muhammad: A Translation of Ibn Ishaq’s Sirat Rasul Allah, with introduction and notes by Alfred Guillaume [Oxford University Press, Karachi, Tenth impression 1995], pp. 519-520; capital and underline emphasis ours)
Muhammad also had no problems breaking his oaths:
Narrated Zahdam:
We were in the company of Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari and there were friendly relations between us and this tribe of Jarm. Abu Musa was presented with a dish containing chicken. Among the people there was sitting a red-faced man who did not come near the food. Abu Musa said (to him), "Come on (and eat), for I have seen Allah's Apostle eating of it (i.e. chicken)." He said, "I have seen it eating something (dirty) and since then I have disliked it, and have taken an oath that I shall not eat it." Abu Musa said, "Come on, I will tell you (or narrate to you). Once I went to Allah’s Apostle with a group of Al-Ash'ariyin, and met him while he was angry, distributing some camels of Rakat. We asked for mounts but he took an oath that he would not give us any mounts, and added, ‘I have nothing to mount you on.’ In the meantime some camels of booty were brought to Allah's Apostle and he asked twice, ‘Where are Al-Ash'ariyin?" So he gave us five white camels with big humps. We stayed for a short while (after we had covered a little distance), and then I said to my companions, ‘Allah's Apostle has forgotten his oath. By Allah, if we do not remind Allah's Apostle of his oath, we will never be successful.’ So we returned to the Prophet and said, ‘O Allah's Apostle! We asked you for mounts, but you took an oath that you would not give us any mounts; we think that you have forgotten your oath.’ He said, ‘It is Allah Who has given you mounts. By Allah, and Allah willing, if I take an oath and later find something else better than that, then I do what is better and expiate my oath.’" (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 67, Number 427)
From, Muhammad Fails A Test Of Prophethood
According to al-Bukhari, there was a Jew who went to see Muhammad when the latter first arrived to Medina in order to see whether he was a true prophet. The Jew, whom the tradition names as ‘Abdullah bin Salam, asked Muhammad specific questions to ascertain whether he was a true prophet or not.
Narrated Anas:
When 'Abdullah bin Salam heard the arrival of the Prophet at Medina, he came to him and said, "I am going to ask you about three things WHICH NOBODY KNOWS EXCEPT A PROPHET: What is the first portent of the Hour? What will be the first meal taken by the people of Paradise? Why does a child resemble its father, and why does it resemble ITS MATERNAL UNCLE?" Allah's Apostle said, "Gabriel has just now told me of their answers." 'Abdullah said, "He (i.e. Gabriel), from amongst all the angels, is the enemy of the Jews." Allah's Apostle said, "The first portent of the Hour will be a fire that will bring together the people from the east to the west; the first meal of the people of Paradise will be Extra-lobe (caudate lobe) of fish-liver. As for the resemblance of the child to its parents: If a man has sexual intercourse with his wife and gets discharge first, the child will resemble the father, and if the woman gets discharge first, the child will resemble her." On that 'Abdullah bin Salam said, "I testify that you are the Apostle of Allah." 'Abdullah bin Salam further said, "O Allah's Apostle! THE JEWS ARE LIARS, and if they should come to know about my conversion to Islam before you ask them (about me), they would tell a lie about me." The Jews came to Allah's Apostle and 'Abdullah went inside the house. Allah's Apostle asked (the Jews), "What kind of man is 'Abdullah bin Salam amongst you?" They replied, "He is the most learned person amongst us, and the best amongst us, and the son of the best amongst us." Allah's Apostle said, "What do you think if he embraces Islam (will you do as he does)?" The Jews said, "May Allah save him from it." Then 'Abdullah bin Salam came out in front of them saying, "I testify that None has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah." Thereupon they said, "He is the evilest among us, and the son of the evilest amongst us," and continued talking badly of him. (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 546)
Ibn Kathir narrates a similar version from al-Bayhaqi:
“… He [ibn Salam] went to the Prophet and said, ‘I shall ask you three things for which ONLY a prophet would know the answers. They are… And what causes a child to resemble his father or his mother?’
“He replied, ‘Gabriel told me of these previously… And if the male’s liquid precedes that of the female, he will resemble the child, while if the FEMALE’S LIQUID precedes that of the male, she will resemble the child.’
“‘Abd Allah bin Salam exclaimed, ‘I testify that there is not god but God and that you are the Messenger of God; O Messenger of God, the Jews are a people of liars. If they learn about my accepting Islam before you ask them about me, they will lie to you.’” (Ibn Kathir, The Life of the Prophet Muhammad (Al-Sira al-Nabawiyya), translated by professor Trevor Le Gassick, reviewed by Dr. Ahmed Fareed [Garnet Publishing Limited, 8 Southern Court, south Street Reading RG1 4QS, UK; The Center for Muslim Contribution to Civilization: First paperback edition, 2000], Volume II, p. 195; comments within brackets as well as bold, capital and italic emphasis ours)
The above reports pose serious problems for the credibility of Muhammad as well as for the testimony of ibn Salam. These narratives contain both a major scientific blunder and a serious logical fallacy.
First, isn’t it somewhat ironic that ibn Salam is casting doubt on the truthfulness of Jews in general when himself was a Jew? Wouldn’t this severely undermine his own witness seeing that he too is a Jew? After all, if the Jews are liars then what does this make ibn Salam? What reason is there to exempt him from this judgment?
There is no evidence that the Jews are liars anymore than other people. Indeed there are liars among them, as there are also honest people, just as the Quran itself admits:
Among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) is he who, if entrusted with a Cantar (a great amount of wealth, etc.), will readily pay it back; and among them there is he who, if entrusted with a single silver coin, will not repay it unless you constantly stand demanding, because they say: "There is no blame on us to betray and take the properties of the illiterates (Arabs)." But they tell a lie against Allah while they know it. S. 3:75 Hilali-Khan
Not all of them are alike; a party of the people of the Scripture stand for the right, they recite the Verses of Allah during the hours of the night, prostrating themselves in prayer. They believe in Allah and the Last Day; they enjoin Al-Ma'ruf (Islamic Monotheism, and following Prophet Muhammad) and forbid Al-Munkar (polytheism, disbelief and opposing Prophet Muhammad); and they hasten in (all) good works; and they are among the righteous. S. 3:113-114 Hilali-Khan
And there are, certainly, among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), those who believe in Allah and in that which has been revealed to you, and in that which has been revealed to them, humbling themselves before Allah. They do not sell the Verses of Allah for a little price, for them is a reward with their Lord. Surely, Allah is Swift in account. S. 3:199 Hilali-Khan
Ibn Salam is simply slandering his own people and apparently trying to kiss up to Muhammad. He was smart and perhaps thought that in light of the way things were going the future of power in the region would probably lay with Muhammad, so he wanted to align himself with him. And he also knew that the Jews who were faithful to their Scriptures had no choice but to reject Muhammad, and would thus get themselves into trouble. Apparently ibn Salam wanted to be among the victors and therefore chose to defect to Muhammad’s side.
Second, and that is the fatal flaw in Ibn Salam’s “test”, if only a prophet would know the answers to the three questions which ibn Salam posed to Muhammad then how did the former know them? How did ibn Salam know that Muhammad answered correctly? Doesn’t this prove that ibn Salam must have also been a prophet? Again, notice the logic behind this:
Nobody knows the answers to ibn Salam’s three questions except a prophet.
Ibn Salam knew the answers to these questions.
Therefore, ibn Salam must have been a prophet!
Either that, or Ibn Salam was not interested in a genuine test, merely in a pretext to switch sides. Or, the third alternative is that Ibn Salam was so blind that he did not see the logical problem with this alleged test, and thus he is not somebody we would trust to be able to distinguish a false prophet from a true one.
My post, Isa
In this post I shall cite the passages in which this name appears.
S 2:87 And we gave Musa the Book and sent the messengers after him. And we gave Isa son of Maryam the proofs and supported him with the Holy Spirit. So has every time a messenger come to you with what your souls do not desire you have been arrogant? So a party you accused of lying and a party you kill.
The Book Given to Musa and the Tablets
Proofs?
A Party You Kill
The Holy Spirit
S 2:136 Say: We have believed in Allah and what has been sent down to us and what was sent down to Ibrahim and Isma’il and Ishaq and Ya’qub and the tribes and what was given to Musa and Isa and what was given to the prophets from their lord. We do not distinguish between any of them. And we are Muslims to him.
S 2:253 Those messengers--we preferred some of them to others. Of them he whom Allah spoke to and raised some of them in degrees. And we gave Isa son of Maryam the proofs and supported him with the Holy Spirit. And had Allah willed, those after them would not have fought one another, after what the proofs had come to them. But they differed, so of them is he who believed and of them he who disbelieved. And had Allah willed they would not have fought one another, but Allah does what he wants.
Revisiting the Problem with Allah preferring some Prophets over others
S 3:45 When the angels said: Maryam, Allah gives you good news of a word from him. His name is The Messiah Isa Son Of Maryam, a dignitary in the dunya and the hereafter and of the Muqarrabun.
The Muqarrabun
S 3:52 Then when Isa perceived kufr among them he said: Who are my helpers to Allah? The Hawariyun said: We are Allah’s helpers. We have believed in Allah, and bear witness that we are Muslims.
Help!
S 3:55 When Allah said: Isa, I am causing you to die and am raising you to me and purifying you of those who disbelieved and I am putting those who followed you above those who disbelieved to the day of resurrection. Then to me is your return and I judge between you concerning what you were differing in.
Isa's Death
Tawaffa (Cause To Die)
S 3:59 The example of Isa with Allah is as the example of Adam. He created him from dust then said to him: Be and he is.
Kun Fa-Yakun Be and It Is
S 3:84 Say: We have believed in Allah and what was sent down upon us and what was sent down upon Ibrahim and Isma’il and Ishaq and Ya’qub and the tribes and what was given to Musa and Isa and the prophets from their lord. We do not distinguish between any of them and we are Muslims to him.
S 4:157 And their saying: We killed the Messiah, Isa son of Maryam, the messenger of Allah. And they did not kill him and they did not crucify him but it was made to appear to them. And those who have differed about it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, of a certainty.
The Crucifixion of Christ - A Christian Critique of the Quran
S 4:163 We have inspired you as we inspired Nuh and the prophets after him and we inspired Ibrahim and Isma’il and Ishaq and Ya’qub and the tribes and Isa and Ayyub and Yunus and Harun and Sulayman and we gave Dawud a Zabur.
S 4:171 People of the Book, do not exceed in your religion nor say about Allah but the truth. The Messiah Isa the son of Maryam is only a messenger of Allah’s and his word which he threw to Maryam and spirit from him. So believe in Allah and his messengers and do not say Three. Cease; it is better for you. Allah is only one god. Praise be to him that he should have a child! His is what is in the skies and what is on the Earth. And Allah was sufficient as an agent.
People of the Book
On the Term ‘People of the Book’
Don't Say Three
S 5:46 And we sent on their tracks Isa son of Maryam, confirming what is in front of him of the Torah, and we gave him the Injil. Therein is guidance and light and confirming what is in front of him of the Torah and guidance and exhortation for the fearers.
The Torah
The Injil
Guidance
S 5:78 Those who disbelieved of the Banu Isra'il were cursed by the tongue of Dawud and Isa son of Maryam. That was because they disobeyed and used to transgress.
S 5:110 When Allah said: Isa son of Maryam, remember my grace upon you and upon your mother when I supported you with the Holy Spirit when you speak to the people in the cradle and in middle age. And when I taught you the book and the wisdom and the Torah and the Injil. And when you create from the clay as the form of the bird with my permission and blow into it and it is a bird with my permission and you heal the blind man and the leper with my permission and when you bring out the dead with my permission. And when I restrained the Banu Isra’il from you when you brought them proofs and those who disbelieved of them said: This is nothing but obvious magic.
What does 'book' refer to, if not the Bible? Does 'wisdom' refer to Wisdom Literature?
Bird Boy
Creators
Permission
S 5:112 When the Hawariyun said: Isa son of Maryam, is your lord able to send down to us a table from the sky? He said: Fear Allah if you are believers.
S 5:114 Isa son of Maryam said: Allahumma our lord, send down upon us a table from the sky being for us a festival for the first of us and the last of us and a sign from you. And provide us, and you are the best of providers.
S 5:116 And when Allah said: Isa son of Maryam, did you say to people, Take me and my mother as two gods instead of Allah? He said: Praise be to you! It is not for me to say what I have no right to. If I had said it, you would have known. You know what is in my soul but I do not know what is in your soul. You are the knower of the ghuyub.
Is the Trinity in the Quran?
S 6:85 And Zakariyya and Yahya and Isa and Ilyas, all are of the righteous.
Still a Messenger and Prophet?
S 19:34 That is Isa son of Maryam, the speech of truth which they dispute about.
S 33:7 And when we took from the prophets their covenant and from you and from Nuh and Ibrahim and Musa and Isa son of Maryam and we took from them a thick covenant
Regarding the 'covenant of the prophets': Was Muhammad the Last Messenger?
S 42:13 He has prescribed for you of the religion what he advised Nuh with and that which we have inspired you with and what we advised Ibrahim and Musa and Isa with. To establish the religion and do not disperse therein. It was hard on the mushrikun what you call them to. Allah picks out for him whom he wills and guides to him who turns.
Advised?
S 43:63 And when Isa came with the proofs he said: I have come to you with wisdom and to make clear for you some of that which you differ in. So fear Allah and obey me.
S 57:27 Then we sent after on their tracks our messengers and we sent after Isa son of Maryam and gave him the Injil. And we put kindness and mercy in the hearts of those who followed him. And monasticism, they innovated it. We did not write it upon them but the seeking of Allah’s pleasure but they did not observe it with its right care. So we gave those who had believed among them their wage and many of them are fasiqun.
S 61:6 And when Isa son of Maryam said: Banu Isra’il, I am Allah’s messenger to you, confirming what is in front of me of the Torah and as one giving the good news of a messenger coming after me, called Ahmad. But when he came to them with the proofs they said: This is obvious magic.
Confirming
'Between the Hands of' Passages
S 61:14 Those who have believed, be Allah’s helpers, as Isa son of Maryam said to the Hawariyun: Who are my helpers to Allah? The Hawariyun said: We are Allah’s helpers. Then a band of the Banu Isra’il believed and a band disbelieved. So we backed those who believed against their enemy and they became assistants.
Wasn't there a suspicion among the founder of Islam's fellow-robbers that he had taken a piece of red velvet? My post, Who Took the Red Velvet?
S 3:161 And it was not for a prophet to embezzle. And he who embezzles brings what he has embezzled on the day of resurrection. Then every soul is paid in full what it has earned and they are not wronged.
It was not? But it is now?
Asbab al-Nuzul for this verse:
(It is not for any prophet to embezzle (an yaghilla)…) [3:161]. Muhammad ibn 'Abd al-Rahman al-Mutawwa'i informed us> Abu 'Amr Muhammad ibn Ahmad al-Hiri> Abu Ya'la> Abu 'Abd Allah ibn 'Umar ibn Aban> Ibn al-Mubarak> Sharik> Khusayf> 'Ikrimah> Ibn 'Abbas who said: “Some red velvet acquired as booty from the idolaters at the Battle of Badr was unaccounted for, and some people said: 'Perhaps it is the Prophet, Allah, bless him and give him peace, who took it'. And so Allah, exalted is He, revealed (It is not for any prophet to embezzle (an yaghulla)). Khusayf asked Sa'id ibn Jubayr: 'Is it (It is not for any prophet to be embezzled (an yughalla))?' He answered: 'No, he can be embezzled and even killed' ”. Abu'l-Hasan Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Najjar> Abu'l-Qasim Sulayman ibn Ayyub al-Tabarani> Muhammad ibn Ahmad ibn Yazid al-Narsi> Abu 'Amr Hafs ibn 'Umar al-Duri> Abu Muhammad al-Yazidi> Abu 'Amr ibn al-'Ala'> Mujahid> Ibn 'Abbas who used to object against anyone who read (It is not for any prophet to be embezzled (an yughalla)) and used to say: “How could he not be embezzled when he used to be killed? Allah, exalted is He, says (… and slew the Prophets wrongfully…) [3:112]. Rather the hypocrites accused the Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, of taking to himself some of the booty, and Allah, exalted is He, revealed (It is not for any prophet to embezzle (an yaghulla))”. Ahmad ibn Muhammad ibn Ahmad al-Asfahani informed us> 'Abd Allah ibn Ahmad al-Asfahani> Abu Yahya al-Razi> Sahl ibn 'Uthman> Waki'> Salamah> al-Dahhak who said: “The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, sent some men in a reconnaissance patrol and he acquired some booty which he distributed on people while denying those who went in that reconnaissance patrol. When the latter came they said: 'He has distributed the booty without apportioning anything for us', as a result of which this verse was revealed (It is not for any prophet to embezzle (an yaghulla)) which was read by al-Dahhak as an yaghalla”. Said Ibn 'Abbas according to the narration of al-Dahhak: “When the Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, got possession of the booties of Hawazin at the Battle of Hunayn, one man cheated him by holding back a needle, and so Allah, exalted is He, revealed this verse”. [altafsir .com/Tafasir .asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=86&tSoraNo=3&tAyahNo=161&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2]
Someone cheated Allah's boss by holding back a needle? The booty was the latter's?
Who took the velvet? Why didn't Allah clear its boss' name? We are told that Musa was cleared.
S 33:69 Those who have believed, do not be like those who harmed Musa and Allah cleared from what they said. And he was a dignitary with Allah.
The Jalalayn say:
O you who believe do not behave towards your Prophet as did those who harmed Moses - when they would say for example ‘The only reason he does not wash with us is that he has an inflammation in his testicles’ - whereat God absolved him of what they alleged when Moses placed his robe on a rock to go to wash the rock hurtled away with it until it came to a halt amid a group of men from the Children of Israel. As Moses chased it and took his robe to cover himself they saw that he had no such inflammation udra is an inflammation of the testicle. And he was distinguished in God’s sight. An instance of our Prophet s being subjected to hurt was when on one occasion while dividing up the spoils a man said to him ‘This is a division that I do not want to please God!’ whereat the Prophet s became angered and said ‘May God have mercy upon Moses for truly he was hurt with worse than this but endured’ - reported by al-Bukhārī. [altafsir .com/Tafasir .asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=74&tSoraNo=33&tAyahNo=69&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2]
The Stone That Took Off Running
Satan the Stripper: A Comparison
Aisha, we understand, was cleared.
S 24:1-22
...I was a young girl and did not have much knowledge of the Quran. I said. ‘I know, by Allah, that you have listened to what people are saying and that has been planted in your minds AND YOU HAVE TAKEN IT AS A TRUTH. Now, if I told you that I am innocent and Allah knows that I am innocent, YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE ME and if I confessed to you falsely that I am guilty, and Allah knows that I am innocent YOU WOULD BELIEVE ME. By Allah, I don’t compare my situation with you except to the situation of Joseph’s father (i.e. Jacob) who said, "So (for me) patience is most fitting against that which you assert and it is Allah (Alone) whose help can be sought."’ Then I turned to the other side of my bed hoping that Allah would prove my innocence. By Allah I never thought that Allah would reveal Divine Inspiration in my case, as I considered myself too inferior to be talked of in the Holy Qur'an. I had hoped that Allah’s Apostle might have a dream in which Allah would prove my innocence. By Allah, Allah’s Apostle had not got up and nobody had left the house before the Divine Inspiration came to Allah’s Apostle. So there overtook him the same state which used to overtake him, (when he used to have, on being inspired divinely). He was sweating so much so that the drops of the sweat were dropping like pearls though it was a (cold) wintry day. When that state of Allah’s Apostle was over, he was smiling and the first word he said, ‘Aisha! Thank Allah, for Allah has declared your innocence.’ My mother told me to go to Allah’s Apostle. I replied, ‘By Allah I will not go to him and will not thank but Allah.’ So Allah revealed: ‘Verily! They who spread the slander are a gang among you …’ (24.11)
When Allah gave the declaration of my innocence, Abu Bakr, who used to provide for Mistah bin Uthatha for he was his relative, said, ‘By Allah, I will never provide Mistah with anything because of what he said about Aisha.’ But Allah later revealed: --
‘And let not those who are good and wealthy among you swear not to help their kinsmen, those in need and those who left their homes in Allah’s Cause. Let them forgive and overlook. Do you not wish that Allah should forgive you? Verily! Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.’ (24.22) After that Abu Bakr said, ‘Yes! By Allah! I like that Allah should forgive me,’ and resumed helping Mistah whom he used to help before.
Allah’s Apostle also asked Zainab bint Jahsh (i.e. the Prophet's wife about me saying, ‘What do you know and what did you see?’ She replied, ‘O Allah’s Apostle! I refrain to claim hearing or seeing what I have not heard or seen. By Allah, I know nothing except goodness about Aisha.’" Aisha further added, "Zainab was competing with me (in her beauty and the Prophet's love), yet Allah protected her (from being malicious), for she had piety." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 48, Number 829) The Composition of the Quran in Stages: How the Wives of Muhammad Helped Shape the Muslim Scripture
Allah was willing to clear these others but not willing to clear its boss?
It seems very likely that the author took the velvet. If Allah existed and was the author's deity, why didn't it provide the name of the offender?
My post, Is He a Messenger?
What criteria are there for establishing a man's credentials as a messenger? In S 3:183 we are told of an encounter with some Jews.
Those who said: Allah has recognised from us that we should not believe a messenger until he brings us a qurban which the fire consumes. Say: Messengers came before me with the proofs and with what you speak. So why did you kill them if you are truthful?
The Jews say that they had an understanding with Allah that they don't accept anyone calling himself a messenger until he offers a sacrifice which is consumed by fire from heaven. The author accepts what they say. But where was the sacrifice? The incident may or may not be true but if true, was this just another test for the false prophet? In 1 Kings 18 we read:
16So Obadiah went to meet Ahab, and told him: and Ahab went to meet Elijah.
17And it came to pass, when Ahab saw Elijah, that Ahab said unto him, Art thou he that troubleth Israel? 18And he answered, I have not troubled Israel; but thou, and thy father's house, in that ye have forsaken the commandments of the LORD, and thou hast followed Baalim. 19Now therefore send, and gather to me all Israel unto mount Carmel, and the prophets of Baal four hundred and fifty, and the prophets of the groves four hundred, which eat at Jezebel's table.
20So Ahab sent unto all the children of Israel, and gathered the prophets together unto mount Carmel. 21And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word. 22Then said Elijah unto the people, I, even I only, remain a prophet of the LORD; but Baal's prophets are four hundred and fifty men. 23Let them therefore give us two bullocks; and let them choose one bullock for themselves, and cut it in pieces, and lay it on wood, and put no fire under: and I will dress the other bullock, and lay it on wood, and put no fire under: 24And call ye on the name of your gods, and I will call on the name of the LORD: and the God that answereth by fire, let him be God. And all the people answered and said, It is well spoken.
25And Elijah said unto the prophets of Baal, Choose you one bullock for yourselves, and dress it first; for ye are many; and call on the name of your gods, but put no fire under. 26And they took the bullock which was given them, and they dressed it, and called on the name of Baal from morning even until noon, saying, O Baal, hear us. But there was no voice, nor any that answered. And they leaped upon the altar which was made. 27And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked. 28And they cried aloud, and cut themselves after their manner with knives and lancets, till the blood gushed out upon them. 29And it came to pass, when midday was past, and they prophesied until the time of the offering of the evening sacrifice, that there was neither voice, nor any to answer, nor any that regarded.
30And Elijah said unto all the people, Come near unto me. And all the people came near unto him. And he repaired the altar of the LORD that was broken down. 31And Elijah took twelve stones, according to the number of the tribes of the sons of Jacob, unto whom the word of the LORD came, saying, Israel shall be thy name: 32And with the stones he built an altar in the name of the LORD: and he made a trench about the altar, as great as would contain two measures of seed. 33And he put the wood in order, and cut the bullock in pieces, and laid him on the wood, and said, Fill four barrels with water, and pour it on the burnt sacrifice, and on the wood. 34And he said, Do it the second time. And they did it the second time. And he said, Do it the third time. And they did it the third time. 35And the water ran round about the altar; and he filled the trench also with water.
Elijah's Prayer
36And it came to pass at the time of the offering of the evening sacrifice, that Elijah the prophet came near, and said, LORD God of Abraham, Isaac, and of Israel, let it be known this day that thou art God in Israel, and that I am thy servant, and that I have done all these things at thy word. 37Hear me, O LORD, hear me, that this people may know that thou art the LORD God, and that thou hast turned their heart back again. 38Then the fire of the LORD fell, and consumed the burnt sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and licked up the water that was in the trench. 39And when all the people saw it, they fell on their faces: and they said, The LORD, he is the God; the LORD, he is the God. 40And Elijah said unto them, Take the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape. And they took them: and Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon, and slew them there. 1 Kings 18 KJV
Qur'an Contradiction: Did the Jews kill prophets who brought a sacrifice devoured by fire?
He goes on a rant accusing them of having killed messengers.
Qur'an Contradiction: Which Prophets Did the Jews Kill?
In hadith he effectively denies being a messenger by erasing his self-assumed title.
Narrated Al-Bara:
When the Prophet (ﷺ) intended to perform the `Umra he sent a person to the people of Mecca asking their permission to enter Mecca. They stipulated that he would not stay for more than three days and would not enter it except with sheathed arms and would not preach (Islam) to any of them. So `Ali bin Abi- Talib started writing the treaty between them. He wrote, "This is what Muhammad, Apostle of Allah has agreed to." The (Meccans) said, "If we knew that you (Muhammad) are the Messenger of Allah, then we would not have prevented you and would have followed you. But write, 'This is what Muhammad bin `Abdullah has agreed to..' " On that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "By Allah, I am Muhammad bin `Abdullah, and, by Allah, I am Apostle of 'Allah." Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) used not to write; so he asked `Ali to erase the expression of Apostle of Allah. On that `Ali said, "By Allah I will never erase it." Allah's Apostle said (to `Ali), "Let me see the paper." When `Ali showed him the paper, the Prophet (ﷺ) erased the expression with his own hand. When Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) had entered Mecca and three days had elapsed, the Meccans came to `Ali and said, "Let your friend (i.e. the Prophet) quit Mecca." `Ali informed Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) about it and Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Yes," and then he departed. [bukhari/58/26]
Further reading: Proofs?
My post, Muhammad Passages
S 3:144 And Muhammad is nothing but a messenger. The messengers passed away before him. So if he dies or is killed, you turn back on your heels? And he who turns back on his heels will not harm Allah at all. And Allah will reward the grateful.
Can Allah Be Harmed?
S 33:40 Muhammad was not a father of any of your men but Allah’s messenger and the ring of the prophets. And Allah was learned in everything.
Contradiction Regarding Muhammad’s Fatherhood: An Examination of The Quran and Islamic Tradition
S 47:2 And those who have believed and have done the righteous deeds and have believed in what has been sent down upon Muhammad, and it is the truth from their lord, he has atoned for them their evil deeds and has improved their mindfulness.
S 48:29 Muhammad is Allah’s messenger and those with him are severe against the kuffar, merciful among them. You see them bowing, doing sujud, seeking favour from Allah and pleasure. Their mark is on their faces from the trace of sujud. That is their similitude in the Torah. And their similitude in the Injil is like a seed, its shoot has come out then it has strengthened it then it has become thick and has ascended on its stem pleasing the sowers that he may enrage the kuffar by them. Allah has promised those who have believed and have done the righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great wage.
In an Answering Islam article we read:
The Quran here calls Mark 4:27-28 the Gospel! The late A. Yusuf Ali notes:
The similitude in the Gospel is about how the good seed is sown and grown gradually, even beyond the expectation of the sower: "the seed should spring and grow up, he knoweth not how; for the earth bringeth forth fruit of herself; first the blade, then the ear, after that the full corn in the earth"; MARK, iv 27-28 ... (Ali, The Holy Qur'an - Meaning and Translation, p. 1400, n. 4917; bold and capital emphasis mine)
The late S. Abul A’la Maududi concurs with Ali:
This parable is found in a sermon of the Prophet Jesus that has been reported in the New Testament, thus:
"And he said, So is the kingdom of God as if a man should east [sic] seed into the ground: And should sleep, and rise night and day, and the seed should spring and grow up, he knoweth not how. For the earth bringeth forth fruit of herself; first the blade, then the ear, after that the full corn in the ear. But when the fruit is brought forth, immediately he putteth in the sickle, because the harvest is come [author- This is taken from Mark 4:26-29]. And he said, Whereunto shall we liken the kingdom of God? or with what comparison shall we compare it? It is like a grain of mustard seed, which, when it is sown in the earth, is less than all the seeds that be in the earth: But when it is sown, it groweth up, and becometh greater than all herbs, and shooteth out great branches; so that the fowls of the air may lodge under the shadow of it [author- this comes from Mark 4:30-32]."
The last portion of this sermon is also found in Matthew, 13:31-32. (Meaning of the Qur’an, Volume V, english rendering by A.A. Kamal, M.A. [Islamic Publications (Pvt.) Limited, 13-E, Shahalam Market, Lahore-8 Pakistan], p. 67, fn. 56; underlined emphasis ours)
Interestingly, the following English translations of the Quran and Sahih Al-Bukhari implicitly concur that the singular word Gospel (Injil) does refer to either the Gospels or the entire New Testament:
The followers of the Gospels (the New Testament) must judge according to what God has revealed in it. Those who do not judge by the laws of God are evil doers. S. 5:47 Sarwar ([al-shia .org/html/eng/books/quran/quran-and-hadith/5 .htm])
Narrated 'Aisha:
... Waraqa was the son of her paternal uncle, i.e., her father's brother, who during the Pre-Islamic Period became a Christian and used to write the Arabic writing and used to write of the GOSPELS in Arabic as much as Allah wished him to write ... (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 87, Number 111)
And:
Narrated 'Aisha:
The Prophet returned to Khadija while his heart was beating rapidly. She took him to Waraqa bin Naufal who was a Christian convert and used to read the GOSPELS in Arabic ... (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 605)
In light of this, it becomes quite apparent that the Muslim claims regarding the Quran using Gospel, singular, rules out the four Gospels from consideration has no substance behind it. The Quran Confirms the Bible Has Never Been Corrupted [Part 2]
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From, The Death of Muhammad
PART A - THE POISONING OF MUHAMMAD
A1
From Bukhari's Hadith 3.786:
Narrated Anas bin Malik: A Jewess brought a poisoned (cooked) sheep for the Prophet who ate from it. She was brought to the Prophet and he was asked, "Shall we kill her?" He said, "No." I continued to see the effect of the poison on the palate of the mouth of Allah's Apostle.
A2
From Bukhari's Hadith 4.394: Narrated Abu Huraira: When Khaibar was conquered, a roasted poisoned sheep was presented to the Prophet as a gift (by the Jews). The Prophet ordered, "Let all the Jews who have been here, be assembled before me." The Jews were collected and the Prophet said (to them), "I am going to ask you a question. Will you tell the truth?" They said, "Yes." The Prophet asked, "Who is your father?" They replied, "So-and-so." He said, "You have told a lie; your father is so-and-so." They said, "You are right." He said, "Will you now tell me the truth, if I ask you about something?" They replied, "Yes, O Abu Al-Qasim; and if we should tell a lie, you can realize our lie as you have done regarding our father." On that he asked, "Who are the people of the (Hell) Fire?" They said, "We shall remain in the (Hell) Fire for a short period, and after that you will replace us." The Prophet said, "You may be cursed and humiliated in it! By Allah, we shall never replace you in it." Then he asked, "Will you now tell me the truth if I ask you a question?" They said, "Yes, O Abu Al-Qasim." He asked, "Have you poisoned this sheep?" They said, "Yes." He asked, "What made you do so?" They said, "We wanted to know if you were a liar in which case we would get rid of you, and if you are a prophet then the poison would not harm you."
A3
From Ibn Sa'd page 249:
Verily a Jewish woman presented poisoned (meat of) a she goat to the apostle of Allah. He took a piece form it, put it into his mouth, chewed it and threw it away. Then he said to the Companions: "Halt! Verily, its leg tells me that it is poisoned." Then he sent for the Jewish woman and asked her; "What induced you to do what you have done?" She replied, "I wanted to know if you are true; in that case Allah will surely inform you, and if you are a liar I shall relieve the people of you."
A4
From Ibn Sa'd page 249: [different narrator]
The apostle of Allah and his companions ate from it. It (goat) said: "I am poisoned." He [Muhammad] said to his Companions, "Hold you hands! because it has informed me that it is poisoned!" They withdrew their hands, but Bishr Ibn al-Bara expired. The apostle of Allah sent for her (Jewess) and asked her, "What induced you to do what you have done?" She replied, "I wanted to know if you are a prophet, in that case it will not harm you and if you are a king, I shall relieve the people of you. He gave orders and she was put to death. [SEE NOTE 1]
A5
From Ibn Sa'd page 250: [different narrator]
Verily a woman of the Jews of Khaibar presented poisoned (meat of) goat to the apostle of Allah. The he recognized that it was poisoned, so he sent for her and asked her, "What induced you to do what you have done?" She replied, "I thought if you are a prophet, Allah will inform you, and if you are a pretender, I shall relieve people of you. When the apostle of Allah felt sick, he got himself "cupped". [SEE NOTE 2]
A6
From Ibn Sa'd pages 251, 252: [different narrator]
....When the apostle of Allah conquered Khaibar and he had peace of mind, Zaynab Bint al-Harith the brother of Marhab, who was the spouse of Sallam Ibn Mishkam, inquired, "Which part of the goat is liked by Muhammad?" They said, "The foreleg." Then she slaughtered one from her goats and roasted it (the meat). Then she wanted a poison which could not fail. .... The apostle of Allah took the foreleg, a piece of which he put into his mouth. Bishr took another bone and put it into his mouth. When the apostle of Allah ate one morsel of it Bishr ate his and other people also ate from it. Then the apostle of Allah said, "Hold back your hands! because this foreleg; ...informed me that it is poisoned. Thereupon Bishr said, "By Him who has made you great! I discovered it from the morsel I took. Nothing prevented me from emitting it out, but the idea that I did not like to make your food unrelishing. When you had eaten what was in your mouth I did not like to save my life after yours, and I also thought you would not have eaten it if there was something wrong.
Bishr did not rise form his seat but his color changed to that of "taylsan" (a green cloth)..........The apostle of Allah sent for Zaynab and said to her, "What induced you to do what you have done?" She replied, "You have done to my people what you have done. You have killed my father, my uncle and my husband, so I said to myself, "If you are a prophet, the foreleg will inform you; and others have said, "If you are a king we will get rid of you.""......
The apostle of Allah lived after this three years till in consequence of his pain he passed away. During his illness he used to say, "I did not cease to find the effect of the (poisoned) morsel, I took at Khaibar and I suffered several times (from its effect) but now I feel the hour has come of the cutting of my jugular vein."
A7
From Tabari Volume 8, page 123, 124:
When the messenger of God rested from his labor, Zaynab bt. al-Harith, the wife of Sallam b. Mishkam, served him a roast sheep. She had asked what part of the sheep the messenger of God liked best and was told that it was the foreleg. So she loaded that part with poison, and she poisoned the rest of the sheep too. Then she brought it. When she set it before the messenger of God, he took the foreleg and chewed a bit of it, but he did not swallow it. With him was Bishr b. al-Bara b. Marur, who, like the messenger of God, took some of it; Bishr, however, swallowed it, while the messenger of God spat it out saying, "This bone informs me that it has been poisoned." He asked, "What led you to do this?" She said: "How you have afflicted my people is not hidden from you. So I said, "If he is a prophet, he will be informed; but if he is a king, I shall be rid of him"". The prophet forgave her. Bishr died of the food he had eaten.
A8
From Tabari Volume 8, page 124: [different narrator]
The messenger of God said during the illness from which he died - the mother of Bishr had come in to visit him - "Umm Bishr, at this very moment I feel my aorta being severed because of the food I ate with your son at Khaybar." [See NOTE 3]
NOTE 1: There is disagreement over whether of not Muhammad had the women who poisoned him put to death. In short, he had her put to death for the death of the other Muslim - Bishr, who quickly died from the poisoning. See the reports by Ibn Sa'd, p. 250.
NOTE 2: Cupping is essentially drawing a small amount of blood from your body. Muhammad believed that bleeding oneself was "the best of medicines".
NOTE 3: The note on quote A8 states that the expression, "it severed his aorta" need not be taken literally; it is used metaphorically for extreme pain.
From, Quran Contradiction: Is Muhammad Only A Warner or a Prophet/Messenger?
There is no denying that the Quran asserts that Muhammad was an apostle and prophet:
Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Apostle of God, and the Seal of the Prophets: and God has full knowledge of all things. S. 33:40 Y. Ali
What may not be apparent to our readers is that the Quran contradicts itself at this point since it claims that Muhammad was only a warner whom Allah sent:
Say: For myself I have no power to benefit, nor power to hurt, save that which Allah willeth. Had I knowledge of the Unseen, I should have abundance of wealth, and adversity would not touch me. I am but (illa) a warner, and a bearer of good tidings unto folk who believe. S. 7:188 Pickthall
So perchance you (Muhammad SAW) may give up a part of what is revealed unto you, and that your breast feels straitened for it because they say, "Why has not a treasure been sent down unto him, or an angel has come with him?" But you are ONLY a warner (innama anta natheerun). And Allah is a Wakil (Disposer of affairs, Trustee, Guardian, etc.) over all things. S. 11:12 Hilali-Khan
Those who disbelieve say: If only some portent were sent down upon him from his Lord! Thou art a warner ONLY (innama anta munthirun), and for every folk a guide. S. 13:7 Pickthall
And they say: "Why are not signs sent down to him from his Lord? Say: "The signs are only with Allah (qul innama al-ayatu AAinda Allahi), and I am ONLY a plain warner (wa-innama ana natheerun mubeenun)." S. 29:50 Hilali-Khan
Interestingly, the last three passages emphatically deny that Muhammad brought any portents since he was only a warner, implying that warners weren’t equipped with signs and wonders. For more on this issue please read this article on Muhammad and Miracles.
Say (O Muhammad SAW): "O mankind! I am (sent) to you ONLY as a plain warner (innama ana lakum natheerun mubeenun)." S. 22:49 Hilali-Khan
Say (unto them, O Muhammad): I am ONLY a warner (Qul innama ana munthirun), and there is no God save Allah, the One, the Absolute, S. 38:65 Pickthall
Say: "As to the knowledge of the time, it is with God alone (Qul innama alAAilmu AAinda Allahi): I am (sent) ONLY to warn plainly in public (wa-innama ana natheerun mubeenun)." S. 67:26 Y. Ali; cf. 17:105; 25:56; 27:92; 34:28; 79:45
The Arabic word innama is a particle that negates everything else, which in reference to Muhammad means that he is a warner and nothing else. The Muslim should have no problem accepting this point, that in these specific references innama means Muhammad is ONLY a warner and nothing more, since the Quran says something similar about the unity of Allah:
This is a clear message for mankind in order that they may be warned thereby, and that they may know that He is ONLY One God (annama huwa ilahun wahidun), and that men of understanding may take heed. S. 14:52 Pickthall
Allah hath said: Choose not two gods. There is ONLY One God (innama huwa ilahun wahidun). So of Me, Me only, be in awe. S. 16:51 Pickthall
And:
God bears witness that there is no god but (illa) He -- and the angels, and men possessed of knowledge -- upholding justice; there is no god but He, the All-mighty, the All-wise. S. 3:18
And We sent never a Messenger before thee except that We revealed to him, saying, 'There is no god but (illa) I; so serve Me.' S. 21:25 Pickthall
Which Muslim would take the above texts to mean that Allah is not the only god? Which Muslim would deny that only (innama) or but (illa) mean exactly that, i.e. that there is no other deity except Allah and that he alone is God? Yet the Quran uses the same expressions in reference to Muhammad being a warner. If the Muslim is to remain consistent s/he must accept the fact that Muhammad was only a warner, no more, no less.
My post, Reproduction and the Backbone
A man's semen is produced in the backbone, the spinal column, and women too produce semen, in the upper ribs.
S 86:6-7 He was created from water pouring out. Coming out from between the backbone {sulb} and the upper ribs {tara'ib}.
Ibn Abbas says:
(He is created from a water gushing forth.) meaning, the sexual fluid that comes out bursting forth from the man and the woman. Thus, the child is produced from both of them by the permission of Allah. Due to this Allah says,يَخْرُجُ مِن بَيْنِ الصُّلْبِ وَالتَّرَآئِبِ(Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs.) meaning, the backbone (or loins) of the man and the ribs of the woman, which is referring to her chest. Shabib bin Bishr reported from `Ikrimah who narrated from Ibn `Abbas that he said,يَخْرُجُ مِن بَيْنِ الصُّلْبِ وَالتَّرَآئِبِ(Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs.) "The backbone of the man and the ribs of the woman. It (the fluid) is yellow and fine in texture. The child will not be born except from both of them (i.e., their sexual fluids).'' [quranx .com/Tafsir/Kathir/86.1]
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Allah will say to that person of the (Hell) Fire who will receive the least punishment, 'If you had everything on the earth, would you give it as a ransom to free yourself (i.e. save yourself from this Fire)?' He will say, 'Yes.' Then Allah will say, 'While you were in the backbone of Adam, I asked you much less than this, i.e. not to worship others besides Me, but you insisted on worshipping others besides me.' "
[bukhari:3334]
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Allah will say to the person who will have the minimum punishment in the Fire on the Day of Resurrection, 'If you had things equal to whatever is on the earth, would you ransom yourself (from the punishment) with it?' He will reply, Yes. Allah will say, 'I asked you a much easier thing than this while you were in the backbone of Adam, that is, not to worship others besides Me, but you refused and insisted to worship others besides Me."'
[bukhari:6557]
Egyptian Beliefs about the Bull's Spine: An Anatomical Origin for Ankh on JSTOR
For taribah, singular of tara'ib: Lanes Lexicon Almaany:
تَرِيبَة : - عِظَامُ الصَّدْرِ مِمَّا يَلِي التَّرْقُوَتَيْنِ
- thorax; rib; breast; chest
تريبة In English - Translation and Meaning in English Arabic Dictionary of All terms Page 1
My post, Allah's Boss, Limited to Mecca
Muslims will tell us that the guy who called himself 'Muhammad' is (sic) a messenger and prophet to the world. But they, if they've actually bothered to read their book, ignore a number of passages.
S 6:92 And this is a book; we have sent it down, blessed, confirming that which is in front of it and that you may warn the mother of the villages and those who are around it. And those who believe in the hereafter believe in it and they are guarding over their salat.
S 42:7 And thus have we inspired you with an Arabic quran that you may warn the mother of villages and those around it and warn on the day of collection. There is no doubt therein. A party in the Jannah and a party in the blaze.
An Arabic Quran
A quran?
The 'mother of villages' is Mecca. Allah's boss, 'just a warner', to the village of Mecca and the immediate surrounding area. Now, what might that be? A mile? Two miles? Medina itself is 209.96 miles from Mecca. So we can exclude even Medina from being part of his area to warn.
Further reading: Quran Contradiction: Is Muhammad Only A Warner or a Prophet/Messenger?
It's important to understand that interpretations of religious texts can vary widely among believers. The verses you cited from the Quran (S 6:92 and S 42:7) do indeed emphasize the role of warning the people of Mecca and its surroundings. However, Muslims generally believe that Muhammad's message extended beyond geographical boundaries to encompass all of humanity. While Mecca may have been the initial focus of his mission, the Quranic message is considered universal and applicable to all people and places.
Regarding the term "warner" versus "prophet/messenger," Islamic theology views Muhammad as both a warner (nadhir) and a messenger/prophet (rasul/nabi). The Quran uses various terms to describe his role, emphasizing his duty to convey God's message and warn against disobedience.
Different interpretations and scholarly perspectives within Islam may shed light on these nuances, reflecting the diversity of thought and understanding within the Muslim community
@@cookibook6 Isn't quran CLEAR and DETAILED? What does it matter if Muslims believe something about Allah's boss contrary to what their book says? We may also look at S 14:4 " And *we have not sent any messenger except with the tongue of his people* to clarify for them. And Allah misguides whom he wills and guides whom he wills. And he is the mighty, the wise." As Allah's boss was not, for example, an Englishman, how might he have been a messenger to the English? Regarding his supposedly have been a warner: From, Quran Contradiction: Is Muhammad Only A Warner or a Prophet/Messenger?
There is no denying that the Quran asserts that Muhammad was an apostle and prophet:
Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Apostle of God, and the Seal of the Prophets: and God has full knowledge of all things. S. 33:40 Y. Ali
What may not be apparent to our readers is that the Quran contradicts itself at this point since it claims that Muhammad was only a warner whom Allah sent:
Say: For myself I have no power to benefit, nor power to hurt, save that which Allah willeth. Had I knowledge of the Unseen, I should have abundance of wealth, and adversity would not touch me. I am but (illa) a warner, and a bearer of good tidings unto folk who believe. S. 7:188 Pickthall
So perchance you (Muhammad SAW) may give up a part of what is revealed unto you, and that your breast feels straitened for it because they say, "Why has not a treasure been sent down unto him, or an angel has come with him?" But you are ONLY a warner (innama anta natheerun). And Allah is a Wakil (Disposer of affairs, Trustee, Guardian, etc.) over all things. S. 11:12 Hilali-Khan
Those who disbelieve say: If only some portent were sent down upon him from his Lord! Thou art a warner ONLY (innama anta munthirun), and for every folk a guide. S. 13:7 Pickthall
And they say: "Why are not signs sent down to him from his Lord? Say: "The signs are only with Allah (qul innama al-ayatu AAinda Allahi), and I am ONLY a plain warner (wa-innama ana natheerun mubeenun)." S. 29:50 Hilali-Khan
Interestingly, the last three passages emphatically deny that Muhammad brought any portents since he was only a warner, implying that warners weren’t equipped with signs and wonders. For more on this issue please read this article on Muhammad and Miracles.
Say (O Muhammad SAW): "O mankind! I am (sent) to you ONLY as a plain warner (innama ana lakum natheerun mubeenun)." S. 22:49 Hilali-Khan
Say (unto them, O Muhammad): I am ONLY a warner (Qul innama ana munthirun), and there is no God save Allah, the One, the Absolute, S. 38:65 Pickthall
Say: "As to the knowledge of the time, it is with God alone (Qul innama alAAilmu AAinda Allahi): I am (sent) ONLY to warn plainly in public (wa-innama ana natheerun mubeenun)." S. 67:26 Y. Ali; cf. 17:105; 25:56; 27:92; 34:28; 79:45
The Arabic word innama is a particle that negates everything else, which in reference to Muhammad means that he is a warner and nothing else. The Muslim should have no problem accepting this point, that in these specific references innama means Muhammad is ONLY a warner and nothing more, since the Quran says something similar about the unity of Allah:
This is a clear message for mankind in order that they may be warned thereby, and that they may know that He is ONLY One God (annama huwa ilahun wahidun), and that men of understanding may take heed. S. 14:52 Pickthall
Allah hath said: Choose not two gods. There is ONLY One God (innama huwa ilahun wahidun). So of Me, Me only, be in awe. S. 16:51 Pickthall
And:
God bears witness that there is no god but (illa) He -- and the angels, and men possessed of knowledge -- upholding justice; there is no god but He, the All-mighty, the All-wise. S. 3:18
And We sent never a Messenger before thee except that We revealed to him, saying, 'There is no god but (illa) I; so serve Me.' S. 21:25 Pickthall
Which Muslim would take the above texts to mean that Allah is not the only god? Which Muslim would deny that only (innama) or but (illa) mean exactly that, i.e. that there is no other deity except Allah and that he alone is God? Yet the Quran uses the same expressions in reference to Muhammad being a warner. If the Muslim is to remain consistent s/he must accept the fact that Muhammad was only a warner, no more, no less.
End of quote. Now, as ONLY Allah can interpret (sic) quran, who the hell do you think you as Muslims are to speak of interpretation? My post, None Knows Its Interpretation But Allah
S 3:7 He is the one who sent down upon you the book; of it are muhkamat verses. They are the mother of the book and others are mutashabihat. As for those in whose hearts is aberration, they follow what he copied from it, seeking fitnah and seeking its interpretation. And none knows its interpretation but Allah. And the firm in knowledge say: We have believed in it. All is from our lord. And none remembers except the possessors of albab.
Does an author interpret his own work? Or might one interpret and make sense of someone else's work?
S 69:40 It is a noble messenger’s speech.
S 81:19 It is the speech of a noble messenger,
If these passages are saying that the Quran is a messenger's speech then is Allah the only one that can make sense of this anonymous author's work?
A Messenger’s Speech?
@ReasonedAnswers hey thaddeus, that early coment of you looking younger but not as wise, is because the standards for islam/muslim is for a persons brain power is how long their beard is !!! Which is silly, but by this standard muhammad hijab is the smartest man alive today, but also bishop mar mari has an even longer beard, so once again mojob has been bested by a Christian !!! YESHUA-AKBAR !!!
God so loved the world that He sent us Jesus and Jesus said even to love your enemies but Profart Mohamed said to hate your enemies and kill them for Allah cos Allah is powerless to do it himself.
"Christianity and Islam both emphasize love and peace, albeit with different teachings and contexts. While Jesus taught love for enemies, Islam has its own teachings on justice and self-defense within the framework of faith. It's important to approach religious beliefs with understanding and respect for diverse interpretations and perspectives."
@@cookibook6 Sorry you are lying cos Islam never teaches Muslim to love non Muslims or their enemies. If you really know the teachings of Islam then you will know that Islam teaches Muslims to FIGHT against non Muslim until they let Muslims take over their land.
@@cookibook6 Please show us a verse in the Quran or Hadith that tells Muslims to love or be peaceful to non Muslims or their enemies. You will never find one. It's all a LIE.
@@steviesmart2343 I'd be happy to provide you with some examples from both the Quran and Hadith that promote peace and kindness towards others, including non-Muslims:
Quran 60:8: "Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly."
Quran 16:125: "Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is [rightly] guided."
Quran 41:34: "And not equal are the good deed and the bad. Repel [evil] by that [deed] which is better; and thereupon the one whom between you and him is enmity [will become] as though he was a devoted friend."
Hadith: The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "Whoever kills a non-Muslim under covenant will not smell the fragrance of Paradise." (Sahih al-Bukhari, 6914)
Hadith: The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "You will not enter paradise until you have faith, and you will not complete your faith until you love one another." (Sahih Muslim, 54)
Islam teaches peace, compassion, and justice towards all people. There are countless examples of Muslims showing kindness and respect to non-Muslims throughout history. It's important to understand these teachings in their full context.
@@steviesmart2343 hey brother in Christ in case UA-cam didn’t notify you, he responded