Ranking the Kanto Gym Leaders by their Original Pokémon TCG Cards (Base - Fossil)

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  • @Auron3991
    @Auron3991 Рік тому +41

    I think something you forgot with Lance's deck is Aerodactyl can be absolutely brutal when playing first because you get the chance to evolve all your pokemon, then evolve into Aerodactyl and stop the opponent's evolutions.

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +7

      It’s absolutely a strategy. I was just looking at it from the viewpoint that it COULD still stifle your own deck here. Aerodactyl works best if you focus on using basics.

  • @ronnieriosstayshredded7410
    @ronnieriosstayshredded7410 Рік тому +88

    Next can you rate each trainer based on their tcg pokemon in the gym set like blaines charizard, etc

    • @TanukiTracks
      @TanukiTracks Рік тому +10

      Seconded!

    • @Langas_LVDC
      @Langas_LVDC Рік тому +9

      THIS! I dont know why he didn't in the first place

    • @W0lfMan26
      @W0lfMan26 Рік тому +22

      Yeah, that's what i thought this video WAS initially.

    • @pokeperson1000
      @pokeperson1000 Рік тому +3

      I was wondering why this _wasn’t_ that

    • @MercBlackMG
      @MercBlackMG Рік тому +1

      Do you know how many trainers are in the game?

  • @shikabaneconga
    @shikabaneconga Рік тому +21

    the megaman X ost sounds so fire when talking about pokemon idk why, specially when it thematically fits the pokemon type

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +2

      So many of them matched up quite well

  • @HighPriestFuneral
    @HighPriestFuneral Рік тому +22

    This is such a fun idea. I really think that the classic TCG has a lot of untapped potential, so this channel is always a blast.

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! I plan on doing more of these

  • @taylorswan8587
    @taylorswan8587 Рік тому +7

    As someone who’s still obsessed with the original cards, this has really become my favorite channel to listen to while I’m at the gym or doing stuff around the house

  • @arhneu
    @arhneu Рік тому +5

    Hey, Paraspectre! Just wanted to let you know, you are currently one of my favourite youtubers and I appreciate all the work and effort you put into your videos.
    They bring me comfort and joy and it always brightens my day to see a new upload! Keep up the great work!

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      That’s honestly really awesome to hear, thank you.

  • @TheLetterJ0
    @TheLetterJ0 Рік тому +112

    You're only giving them one copy of each Pokemon? I think I can finally see why Paraspectre doesn't think Wigglytuff is good.

    • @bradlauk1419
      @bradlauk1419 Рік тому +38

      Para catching shit for his hot take on wiggs is becoming my new favorite meme

    • @NeroVingian40
      @NeroVingian40 Рік тому +5

      Well, his video, his rules.

    • @GreenSamaArts
      @GreenSamaArts Рік тому +5

      Yeah, there's a lot to argue about his way of deckbuilding, but fun videos like these keeps me coming back. Good job!

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +9

      For simplicity’s sake. If you’re ACTUALLY basing a deck around Misty, you certainly wouldn’t only use two Staryu and a Starmie unless you were doing it for a challenge

    • @malcontender6319
      @malcontender6319 Рік тому +2

      Jungles Jigglypuff is just as good as the Wiggly after. Instant sleep...

  • @Slenderquil
    @Slenderquil Рік тому +12

    Alakazam and mr mime are such a crazy combination. It'll be super hard for the enemy to deal with him. My deck in my latest playthrough was used Sabrina's team as a core but with slowbro instead of venemoth

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      Yeah Slowbro would make it even more rough to deal with that deck

  • @CG078TZ
    @CG078TZ Рік тому +1

    At the beginning, I thought you were doing a video about Gym Heroes and Gym Challenge's cards. 🤣 Very nice video!

  • @chavezyunni
    @chavezyunni 2 місяці тому

    Bruh!😂 At 22:11, didn't expect for you to include the bloopers. Either way, awesome video!

  • @HybridAngelZero
    @HybridAngelZero Рік тому +27

    Legit might actually use some of these for TCG GB deck ideas. The Sabrina and Giovanni ones in particular seem super fun

    • @angeldariogaribaydelatorre6395
      @angeldariogaribaydelatorre6395 Рік тому

      Agrega las expansiones R y quizá alguno de los 12 mostrados en el vídeo pueda subir o descender un par de puestos por las cartas " dark "

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +2

      I agree. So many ideas for a challenge video

  • @horokai
    @horokai Рік тому +2

    That gengar is sooooo cool , I always want it to make it viable on base neo decks but that 3 energy attack cost is so difficult to pull off due to energy removals :(. Great video my guy.

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! Yeah Gengar’s card pretty much rocks.

  • @iquemedia
    @iquemedia Рік тому +5

    i had no idea this was a video i needed in my life
    keep it up homie

  • @chriskettle-frisby8610
    @chriskettle-frisby8610 Рік тому +1

    Great video! Can't wait to see where it goes next!
    Poor, poor Brock

  • @quinnnolan8701
    @quinnnolan8701 8 місяців тому +3

    I thought this was going to be the set that had _gym leader’s name_ Pokémon. Ex. Erika’s Jigglypuff, Brock’s Zubat, Misty’s Dewgong. I always wondered if they had a deck strategy together and they had really unique Pokémon. I kind of remember someone getting Dragonair/Dragonite? 😳

  • @bodkin8914
    @bodkin8914 Рік тому +1

    I just can't help but smile when I wake up and there is a new paraspectre video to sweeten my daily morning routine befor I goo to work.
    Thx man alway enjoy your content

  • @weluvncsu
    @weluvncsu Рік тому +4

    It's always a good day when you post Paraspectre

  • @ryantavarez1673
    @ryantavarez1673 Рік тому +1

    This was a really fun video idea. Interesting to think of what the decks would look like with such a limitation.

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      Yeah I thought it would be simpler just to compare their Pokémon alone rather than make decks

  • @Sniwott
    @Sniwott Рік тому +4

    Loving the MMX music

  • @PatchyConvert
    @PatchyConvert Рік тому +1

    Content wise, i think the generation by generation idea is awesome! Maybe go through their respective TCG series? Might need to look back at Kanto with the team rocket and gym leaders sets.
    Also makes me want to see a tournament with players using these decks.

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      Yes, I plan on going further with this idea 😊

    • @PatchyConvert
      @PatchyConvert Рік тому

      @Paraspectre Might I suggest doing a video on the rival teams in TCG form? Since in Gen 1, your rivals team changes? Heck, you could add the rivals Yellow teams for added length. o o

  • @franksony1992
    @franksony1992 Рік тому +5

    Try the Gym Leaders in Kanto of G/S/C. Way more interesting combo's.
    The leader of the fighting dojo would be interesting also.

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      I certainly plan on doing more with this idea

  • @Godsbutterknife
    @Godsbutterknife Рік тому +1

    It was funny to see Agatha at the top with a grass psychic type. When lost origins came out, I ran a grass psychic lost zone deck with Giratina v star. I'm just picturing a fairly normal battle until she whips out a beefed up Giratina and runs your pockets.

  • @KibbysGhost
    @KibbysGhost Рік тому +1

    Always a good night when there’s a new paraspectre video to watch

  • @ColdEmperor
    @ColdEmperor Рік тому +3

    Sounds fun! Sure. If you need to study them go ahead. I look forward to more from your card analysis.

  • @GohLow
    @GohLow Рік тому +2

    This was a great idea

  • @lordgeovanni
    @lordgeovanni Рік тому +11

    Personally, I think this concept could be expanded slightly to include all the versions of these trainers. For example, maybe consider Brock with the Fossils because of Gen 2's rematch fight. Or consider Koga with the Venomoth line due to Yellow.
    At the least, I think it would be interesting to see how some choices would drastically allow shaping a deck, but it would also need to allow not requiring every pokemon as there would be too much for some and too little for others...

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +2

      I plan on making more videos with this idea. But I had to start from the beginning: first games with the first cards

    • @lordgeovanni
      @lordgeovanni Рік тому +1

      @@Paraspectre I absolutely can agree with that. Start with the basic answer, and explore new avenues as you wish. I really tend to enjoy your videos.

    • @decarabiaumbra560
      @decarabiaumbra560 Рік тому

      @@Paraspectre Really looking forward to the Johto gym leaders version. Especially if you also do one about the johto VS set. It's really disappointing we never got that set in the West.

  • @zh1700
    @zh1700 4 місяці тому

    your videos really make me wanna try to build old-school decks for tabletop formats with my friends. super nostalgic for all the cards of this era, and I really wish the tcg weren't so guilty of power creep

  • @dror843
    @dror843 Рік тому +4

    Did you take into consideration though that they have different rosters in r/b and yellow?

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      I sure did! But I’m a chronologist, so I had to start at the beginning

    • @dror843
      @dror843 Рік тому +1

      @@Paraspectre sent you an intresting email

  • @myanimeroom9350
    @myanimeroom9350 Рік тому +1

    I never got to experience the Pokemon TCG as kid since I never knew its existence until much later. My real experience on this card game is where I played the TCG for GBC during my first college life in which that is where I have a lot of memories on having a good time.

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +2

      It’s still a really fun solo experience too

  • @saltinefromindiana
    @saltinefromindiana Рік тому +1

    Ngl. I love the Mega Man X music in the back with you trying to match them based on the respective maverick

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      It surprisingly lined up quite well. Only a couple were kinda there by default like Storm Eagle

    • @saltinefromindiana
      @saltinefromindiana Рік тому +1

      @@Paraspectre I'm so used to fighting Storm Eagle first out of boredom that I didn't even notice that lmao

  • @gligarguy4010
    @gligarguy4010 Рік тому +3

    I too like the Fossil Raichu. Maybe it's the artwork.

  • @BearofLightness
    @BearofLightness Рік тому +17

    Funnily enough, going by the Gym Heroes/Challenge cards, Brock probably has the strongest deck archetypes. He's still probably not the *best* if you stick with your rules of one card per Pokémon on the actual team, but he's got a lot more potential than Base Set Onix/friggin' Fossil Geodude allow for. Actually, this might be a fun topic to revisit after you've gone through Gym Heroes/Challenge, since there's a lot of experimental moves in those sets.
    Good stuff as always!

    • @zoa1-99.......
      @zoa1-99....... Рік тому

      but he didn't so this video is clickbait.

    • @BearofLightness
      @BearofLightness Рік тому +1

      @@zoa1-99....... dude chill

    • @zoa1-99.......
      @zoa1-99....... Рік тому

      @@BearofLightness I am chill, I'm just stating a very obvious point that I've been misled.

    • @BearofLightness
      @BearofLightness Рік тому +1

      ​@@zoa1-99....... You misunderstood the intent of the video; from the thumbnail art, Paraspectre was pretty clear that this wouldn't be focusing on the Gym sets. Moreover, in addition to leaving your own comment expressing your frustration (which, I don't share your sentiments, but is perfectly fair to do), you posted under some random dude's comment and co-opted it to reiterate your stance (which is a pretty weird thing to do). Ergo, you're not chill; ergo, dude chill.

    • @zoa1-99.......
      @zoa1-99....... Рік тому

      @@BearofLightness "Thier original Pokemon TCG cards" means stuff like Misty's Goldeen, Brock's Geodude etc. The base set etc, aren't their original cards, easy to comprehend logic, I was lied to. You mentioned the lack of Gym sets, so it's not a random post. I took the time to read it then I responded.

  • @NymphieJP
    @NymphieJP Рік тому +3

    I love this kinda content lol what an absolute classic. Would yellow be much different? I suppose the change to yellow are mostly movesets…

    • @shadowmanwkp
      @shadowmanwkp Рік тому +2

      Some teams in yellow are very different. Blane has a Ninetales, Rapidash and Arcanine, while Koga has three venonat and a venomoth, so there would be some very noticeable shifts.

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому

      Yeah, Yellow is different, but I wanted to start with the first games with the first cards. Keeps it simple and organized

  • @exmaarmaca
    @exmaarmaca 4 місяці тому

    This reminds me when playing the original pokemon trading card game on the gameboy the way I beat the psychic gym leader was that it consued all his deck cards and thus lost by default.

  • @thebrentist5403
    @thebrentist5403 Рік тому

    I love the megaman theme music in through background!

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому

      It just seemed like the right choice

  • @Thatposer444
    @Thatposer444 Рік тому

    Funnily, I actually already did a gym leader deck challenge with Giovanni (including Persian from Yellow) in the GB game. The worst part was trying to get all the cards before being able to play, especially Nidoking.

  • @PopcornBunni
    @PopcornBunni 4 місяці тому

    Shoutouts to the Karate Master that mulls for Hitmonchan in the opener 50% of the time and might actually be the strongest deck as a result, full of slots for trainer cards in the rest of the deck.

  • @charlesboyle3249
    @charlesboyle3249 4 місяці тому

    I honestly wouldn’t mind seeing videos of each generations gym leaders evaluated this way but keeping future gen’s to just the card sets that came out in those gen’s. Example: Gen 3 gym leaders are only limited to cards that came out in Gen 3 range.

  • @YarDarkwood
    @YarDarkwood Рік тому

    Cool video idea, ive been trying arround with upgrading my waterblast starter deck with better versions of the pokemon within but its hard sorting through all of the different versions.

  • @robertcrist6059
    @robertcrist6059 Рік тому

    Sweet video. I pretty much agree with what you had. There can be preferences with the elite four which put one above another, but that is personal taste at that point. I definitly want to build the good decks here and battle.

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      Yeah the elite four was pretty much a toss up for me

    • @robertcrist6059
      @robertcrist6059 Рік тому

      @@Paraspectre Personally Lance having Gyarados, which is my favorite mon, adds some points. Plus Hyper Beam from Dragonaire dealing damage and knocking off an energy from the defending mon can be crippling. But yes, Agatha is first b/c Gengar and Haunter are so much fun to play. Then Lance. I actuall have Bruno above Loreli b/c Cloyster could do absoluting nothing and has 50hp; you don't attack with Slowbro if you want to utilize the full potential of the power; Lapras only does 30 damage and needs 3 energy to do it; Jynx is fine; Dewgong is good dealing 50. Bruno has the hitmon's and Lee's move are both great, Chan's quick jab's are very good; and while Onix is a dud, use it as a stall to evolve and power up The Champ and do some damage.
      It would be sweet to battle your Loreli deck vs my Bruno deck, winner gets the Agatha deck vs Lance. Then to cap off a potential tie, if the Lance deck beats Agatha, they get an Ash deck customized to cherry pick any of the mon he used in the anime vs a Gary deck. Legit would consider flying out if you wanted to do this. I have base -> gym hero/challenge printed out as proxies.

  • @jeffgoode9865
    @jeffgoode9865 3 місяці тому

    I JUST realized that when you say "paraspectre will return", it's an homage to Bond, because you love the films so much.
    I feel a little silly for not realizing it until now. 😅

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  3 місяці тому

      Haha you may be the only person to ever actually acknowledge that though 😅

  • @Nit845
    @Nit845 Рік тому

    You should do the gym leader hero’s series as if the gym leaders had those Pokémon as their badge defense team

  • @adamwilson1691
    @adamwilson1691 Рік тому

    I dont know if you ever got into the gym heroes and gym challenge sets but those are some of my favorite sets of all time

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      I will be getting to them in due time! Going over every card and a video like this

  • @TsukentoX
    @TsukentoX Рік тому +1

    While an interesting concept, the problem with these decks is that they all get absolutely destroyed by cards and decks that were so prominent back then.
    Brock stands no chance against Scyther, Misty loses to Electabuzz, Surge is done in by Hitmonchan, Blaine to Rain Dance decks, Erika to Fossil Magmar, Giovanni to Scyther and Promo Mewtwo, and Sabrina to any Haymaker deck that includes Promo Mewtwo.
    The main thing to remember is that Stage 2 Pokémon were rarely ever used between these 3 sets, with the exceptions of Venusaur and Blastoise. The path to leveling them up was too risky, especially since their Basic Pokémon had a tendency to be too fragile, with common weaknesses and low HP. If you got them to a Stage 2, you'd likely have taken on too much damage to make any use of them.

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому

      I mean… if you’re using any of these gym leader “decks” against a well built deck, I think it’s lights out every time.

  • @patricklynch4074
    @patricklynch4074 Рік тому

    Something i like thinking about is "what games is onix usable in"
    So far the only that really come to mind are pokemon masters ex and the card game

  • @ColeFam
    @ColeFam Рік тому

    Excellent soundtrack choice.

  • @Nick_Slavik
    @Nick_Slavik Рік тому

    While I normally enjoy the BGM during your vids, as a huge mega man fan I'm LOVING the BGM in this one 🤘😎🤘

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      Almost everything matched up perfectly too

  • @dandy-man-can
    @dandy-man-can Рік тому +1

    Love this, thank you.

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for checking it out 😊

  • @naturaloutdoorsoklahoma7054
    @naturaloutdoorsoklahoma7054 Рік тому +6

    Old Pokémon was simple and the best. Enjoyable up to around 2008

    • @sebee13
      @sebee13 Рік тому

      I agree. I have played ptcgo ( by that I mean playing with modern cards ) but the dynamics and dependency on single cards was frustrating. Also I'm done with it because ptcgl really sucks.

    • @mastermarkus5307
      @mastermarkus5307 4 місяці тому

      That's a shame; as someone who basically only bought them for the art, that aspect has really just gotten better over the years.

  • @orsonzedd
    @orsonzedd Рік тому

    I'll have to search Reddit but I did a breakdown of the card art of this set. I think all together there were just nine artists and one of those is Imakuni? and I'm not sure if he counts.
    That said for a second largely use the stock market I think they did it in some very creative ways like kogas Beedrill

  • @pyrefox
    @pyrefox Рік тому

    I played competitively with a Koga's deck 20 years ago LOL
    It was extremely effective... but not with the basic set versions of the cards.

  • @AzureFlute
    @AzureFlute Рік тому

    I kinda like the idea of a TCG based game with the main series gym leaders using decks based in their in-game teams now.

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому

      That would be quite enjoyable. Perfect for a rom hack

  • @AsThePokeballTurns
    @AsThePokeballTurns Рік тому

    Not sure if it would be possible, but seeing a TCG game tourney with all 8 gym leaders using cards from the sets would be fun content to see.

    • @PatchyConvert
      @PatchyConvert Рік тому

      It is technically possible. You could code an actual tourney in a TCG emulator. Or you could go the content route and get some friends together and battle it out with the deck in a real tournament.

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      I think they would require some customization to have it be a fair fight. Whoever is representing Brock would have no chance ☺️

    • @AsThePokeballTurns
      @AsThePokeballTurns Рік тому

      @@ParaspectreSo basically Brock becomes the Matthew of the tournament? 🤣

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      So fitting ☺️

    • @PatchyConvert
      @PatchyConvert Рік тому

      @Paraspectre What cha mean! All yah got tah do is draw straws. Totally fair. XD

  • @brianbrunen9803
    @brianbrunen9803 Рік тому

    I think you majorly underrate Arodactyl here. Especially if you're not allowing the basics to attack

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому

      It’s just a hypothetical for this deck example alone. Aerodactyl can be an absolute game changer.

  • @theteutonicorder9158
    @theteutonicorder9158 Рік тому

    Good vid, but I was wondering if it's possible to add custom cards to the game?

  • @williamharrison1885
    @williamharrison1885 Рік тому

    what about using the cards that were released as the gym leaders set?

  • @ultimatedrift8549
    @ultimatedrift8549 Рік тому

    Definitely do this with other reigons, and maybe a full theoretical decklist for each?

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      I plan on doing more of these, yes. There are a lot of possible video ideas for them

    • @ultimatedrift8549
      @ultimatedrift8549 Рік тому

      @@Paraspectre hell yeah!

  • @darthjoe91
    @darthjoe91 10 місяців тому

    Would you do this again with the Gym Heroes and Gym Challenge cards?

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  10 місяців тому

      Absolutely. Maybe down the road

  • @danielg2967
    @danielg2967 4 місяці тому

    Id love for you to go all the way through to gen 9 with this. But maybe to balance the teams make all gym leaders capable of using all stages of their Pokémon. Example brock can use steelix if you do his team updated. ALSO allow decks to be build as you would a normal deck (example misty has 1 starmie but she can have to to 4 in her deck) tell me what you think. I love the videos and hope to see more

  • @malcontender6319
    @malcontender6319 Рік тому

    Wizards OTC run of Pokemon really was the gold standard.

  • @armorbearer9702
    @armorbearer9702 10 місяців тому

    Would the rankings still stand if items were taken into consideration. For example, Lt. Surge uses X Speed while Misty uses X Defense. Becaue X Speed does not exist in the TCG, I assume Misty gets Defender while Surge gets nothing.

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  10 місяців тому +1

      You could view it that way, yeah. This is kinda why I feel like it was a mistake of me to pretend they are the decks though. I really just want to compare the Pokémon themselves

  • @justsomejojo
    @justsomejojo Рік тому

    I probably used Koga's team to a T before. Grass is definitely my favorite type in the early TCG, because it's so versatile - varied weaknesses, lots of status options, healing (on the actual Grass and Bug types) and a surprising amount of searchability (Bellsprout, Oddish and Nidoran F all can look for basic pokemon). Koga's particular brand of Grass deck is pretty fun to use too. Weezing + Defender is a pretty sick combination for dealing damage and Muk helps countering Psychic matchups (since Psychic in that format would probably rely on Alakazam's, Mr. Mime's and Slowbro's pokepowers. Yeah, definitely the one I'd use.
    For the E4, I think I actually like Bruno's deck most. It's definitely shaky because Fighting is so well-resisted in the early sets, but the hard and fast hitting from Hitmonchan is just too good. Stretch Kick also lets you somewhat bypass the resistances. Definitely my pick for fun, but I think Lorelei is the best one. Dewgong always makes me think it's there just to redeem the RBY version of it since it's so strong and Lapras is just really solid. Slowbro doesn't even need energy to be useful and Jynx' moves are cheap enough to not mess up consistency.
    I went with free picking for trainer cards in my thoughts, which enables stuff like Defender-Selfdestruct or Defender-Take Down, but if you were crazy for pain, you could in theory limit yourself to the items they programmed to use (or equivalent options)

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому

      I could see an argument for any of the elite four being the best. I liked all of them

  • @cadencenavigator958
    @cadencenavigator958 11 місяців тому

    Challenge run idea: any Pokemon, any number, but you can only use attacks that flip coins. Y'know, if you feel like hating everything for a bit.

  • @saulgonzalez6408
    @saulgonzalez6408 Місяць тому

    I got a paras full art from crown zenith and a parasect from lost origin trainer gallery holo

  • @BWalker12357
    @BWalker12357 8 місяців тому

    My best Gen1 deck was 4 Jigglypuffs, 4 Wigglytuffs, 4 Poke Dolls, 4 Mysterious Fossils, 2-3 Scythers, 2-3 Electabuzz. I would usually have a Wigglytuff dropping 60 DAMAGE hits by the SECOND MOVE of the match. No other deck can do 60 DAMAGE BY MOVE 2. So if you're not taking advantage of the full bench, then you don't understand how OVERPOWERED Wigglytuff is. I seriously won many TCG tournaments with my Wigglytuff deck.

  • @robertm5110
    @robertm5110 Рік тому

    Will you be doing gen 2 using the sets up until when all of gen 2 was released?

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      I certainly will!

    • @robertm5110
      @robertm5110 Рік тому

      @@Paraspectre woo! You got my subscription :)

  • @Root4BeerFloats
    @Root4BeerFloats Рік тому

    If Elite 4 is part 2, can part 3 be the gym leaders in Gen 2, including any Johto pokemon?

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      I’ll definitely be making more videos with this idea

  • @tychozzyx9439
    @tychozzyx9439 Рік тому

    I've got to swap Lorelei with Agatha, especially if you limit unevolved attacks. Too much waiting to get the right evolution so you can attack. I think Lorelei will be more consistent

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      I could see an argument for any of the elite four being the best. My Ice challenge was pretty easy

    • @tychozzyx9439
      @tychozzyx9439 Рік тому

      Bruno perks up on hearing he might be the very best, like no one's ever said

  • @angeldariogaribaydelatorre6395

    ( spanish )
    Ya ha habido un intento de armar un deck tematico de cada lider?...

  • @thekakeking9400
    @thekakeking9400 3 місяці тому

    16:55 Scott's Thoughts.

  • @aspookyfox
    @aspookyfox 4 місяці тому

    You could have included the Rocket set’s basic Pokémon for some of these.

  • @SuperDuperHappyTime
    @SuperDuperHappyTime Рік тому

    Why not their mons from Gym Heroes and Gym Challenge?

  • @Doors067
    @Doors067 Рік тому +1

    I used the shit out of Rapidash at Wizards when I was like 7 or 8

  • @franksony1992
    @franksony1992 Рік тому

    It's a nice idea, but why not working with the rules of TGC; use a maximum of 4 copies of each card? Very different result would occur than this list.

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      I just thought it would be simpler to examine their teams as they exactly are. If you were to build a deck around any of them, I think it would require a lot of customization

    • @franksony1992
      @franksony1992 Рік тому

      @Paraspectre Adding 4 of each in Blaine's or even Lt. Surge's team would give them a way better chance against Sabrina, Erika or Giovanni. Same for Bruno; he has a pretty beefed deck if it has 3 hitmonchan, hitmonlee, machamp evolution-line and a few onix.
      The rest of the 60 cards is just filling with 3 Prof. Oak, Bill, PC Search, Poketrader, Item Finder, (Super) Energy Removal and like 14-20 Energy (to keep it somewhat balanced instead of the usual 10-16 Energies)...

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому

      I agree! But I wanted to only compare their teams as they actually are. It would be a different ballpark if you’re comparing their Gold/Silver or Black/White 2 teams as well

  • @TheLetterJ0
    @TheLetterJ0 Рік тому

    This video prompted me to go look at Geodude's stone barrage some more. You've talked about it before, but I don't think you ever went very far into the math.
    You are of course correct that it usually does 0 or 10 damage, and that it technically could do an infinite amount of damage. But the math works out so that it actually only averages 10 damage per attack. And at a cost of 2 energies, that makes it the worst attack I could find in the Gen 1 and 2 sets in terms of average damage per energy with no other beneficial effects. (Neo Genesis Clefairy is a close second, since it also averages 10 damage for 2 energies without beneficial effects. But since it's more likely to do 10 damage than 0 damage, it's probably still better.)

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      It’s probably one of my least favorite attacks. You’re almost always left disappointed

  • @Dan-dan371
    @Dan-dan371 Рік тому

    Anyone else notice the megaman x soundtrack in the background?! Nice choice!!!!

  • @7ItalianStallion
    @7ItalianStallion Рік тому

    Loved the mega man x music 😁

  • @cyberdarkturtle6971
    @cyberdarkturtle6971 Рік тому

    You should do it for every region. And with stuff like "Misty's Goldeen"

  • @F1ghtGam3r
    @F1ghtGam3r 3 місяці тому

    Lance's deck may work if evolve ur Pokemon first, then lock down ur opponent. That way the match would be one sided

  • @Chaos0f7ife
    @Chaos0f7ife 11 місяців тому +1

    Since Brock's deck would suck so much... Time for. Challenge Playthrough of TCG?

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  11 місяців тому

      Yeah that would be horrible.

  • @robertcrist6059
    @robertcrist6059 Рік тому

    17:52 Ugh just do a single video covering all three team(s) and negate duplicates. Reference that if x mon is in this deck it lands at rank d instead of g sort of thing. It would be a solid video and you know it.

  • @EZDre11
    @EZDre11 Рік тому

    Fun video!

  • @ThePoolo12
    @ThePoolo12 Рік тому +1

    Would love to se this for jhoto

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      I’m quite sure I’ll be doing this

  • @hibertylangout1580
    @hibertylangout1580 Рік тому

    Do play throughs with these decks in reverse order.

  • @Pershath08
    @Pershath08 Рік тому

    Paraspectre will return in “The Man with the Gholdengo”

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому

      Wow. Yes. Too bad I made my channel before SV came out. Also not a huge Gholdengo fan ☺️

  • @Mage_Nichlas_
    @Mage_Nichlas_ Рік тому

    I haven't noticed it until now but the in game order of the Elite 4 are kinda in the order of who would beat who.
    Lorelei's Ice Types lose to Bruno(ignoring the fact that Slowbro would mop the floor with Bruno), Bruno is unable to really hit Agatha's Ghost and Poison Types in a meaningful way, Agatha can't really beat Lance because he has a massive Base Stat advantage. Lance is on top because he never fought Lorelei in the bracket.

  • @keeperofthetriforce7
    @keeperofthetriforce7 3 місяці тому

    Why didnt you let them use the actuall gym leader card

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  3 місяці тому

      Because I’m starting with the originals. I can always do this later on

  • @GoonieLord
    @GoonieLord Рік тому

    I remember Blaine had a Moltress

  • @Ender618m
    @Ender618m Рік тому

    I think something that needs mentioned is that you can only have 4 copies of a card that isnt a basic energy. This means Misty only has four pokemon max as Starmie has to to evolve from Staryu, for a maximum of 240 total HP. Granted that is in flux due to recover being a thing and you'll probably have plenty of energy because what else are you going to stuff this deck with, but it runs in to the awkward situation of some stuff just one shotting it. 60 is not a high bar to clear. Misty may in fact be worse than Brock if you look at these leaders through the lens of a legal 60 card deck.

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому

      Yeah I just wanted to keep it simple and look at their exact teams. If you were to build a legit Misty deck, you would never only use two Staryu and a Starmie, unless it was for a challenge idea.

  • @Gold_exe
    @Gold_exe 4 місяці тому

    Do this again with gym challenge? :) Could do the same with gen 2 with the VS series 👀

  • @PeircingBattleDamage
    @PeircingBattleDamage 26 днів тому

    You should allow them to use their teams from heart gold and soul silver

  • @Itsjustlikemagic
    @Itsjustlikemagic Рік тому +1

    Overall your analysis was good but I disagree with you on Agatha. I actually consider her deck to be the 2nd weakest of the elite four. The reason being her ghost pokemon all suck against colorless types due to resistance. They especially suck against Snorlax who has pokemon power: thick skinned which renders both Haunter’s sleep attacks useless.
    I used to wipe the floor with all the psychic club members using my colorless decks.

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому

      I think that’s a very fair point actually. It wasn’t fair to ding Fighting for all of the resistances out there when Psychic has its fair share too

  • @drdca8263
    @drdca8263 Рік тому

    Oh, I thought this was going to be based on cards with names “[Trainer Name]’s [pokemon name]”

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      That video will also happen. Gotta start from the beginning

    • @drdca8263
      @drdca8263 Рік тому

      @@Paraspectre cool

  • @drenrin2120
    @drenrin2120 Рік тому

    Fossil Arbok is truly goat'd

  • @thehonoredone2361
    @thehonoredone2361 Рік тому

    I'm not surprised just like in the games Sabrina is always the best and the hardest to deal with. Also Psychic gym leaders are always the most annoying to deal with anyways.

  • @TheDougWay
    @TheDougWay Рік тому

    I think Lorelei would be the strongest. Honestly I've found both the Lapras and Dewgong to be very, very strong when combined with the right trainers, which these decks would be loaded up with tons of.

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому

      I can see that for sure. I pretty much used her exact deck already and that challenge wasn’t difficult.

  • @MazterP28
    @MazterP28 Рік тому

    Me thinking venomoth is suppose to be psychic type

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому +1

      Venomoth and Golduck. They never reached their full potential

  • @tomparker8282
    @tomparker8282 Рік тому

    I'm a full evolution line anarchist with this I think. Let Brock use Golem, why not?

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  Рік тому

      If you were building a Brock “themed” deck, then go for it! I just wanted to keep it simple and look at their exact teams.

  • @tysmith211
    @tysmith211 Рік тому

    algorithm for this 🎉

  • @grousm54
    @grousm54 11 місяців тому

    I think you got Misty and Brock wrong. Misty would only have 4 basic pomemon in her enitre deck so more often than not would lose with only one staryu/Starmie going down. Meanwhile brock has 8 basic pokemon that are overall bulkier than hers. Factor in trainer cards and Brock wins like 90% over Misty

    • @Paraspectre
      @Paraspectre  11 місяців тому +1

      But I’m basing them on only their exact Red and Blue teams for this. So Brock would have one single Geodude card and one Onix. Misty would have two Staryu and one Starmie. I’m basically just comparing their Pokémon as cards rather than them being in usable decks.