TRADE SCHOOL VS COLLEGE in 2023
Вставка
- Опубліковано 19 січ 2023
- Many of our videos are comedic & satirical & not intended to cultivate antisocial or unlawful behavior. Thank you for supporting our Channel through the below affiliate links. No price increase for you but we may receive compensation.
-Amazon - our store - wranglermart.com
-Jk Boots - www.jkboots.com/wranglerstar
-Radios Made Easy - radiomadeeasy.com/product/wra...
-Amsoil - www.amsoil.com/c/products/1/?...
-GoDark Bags - godarkbags.com/#cody411
-Premier Body Armor - www.premierbodyarmor.com/wranglerstar
-Vertx - shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=228804...
-My Patriot Supply - www.preparewithwranglerstar.com
-Eden Grow Systems - edengrowsystems.com/wranglerstar
Become A Wranglerstar Member For Exclusive Content and Perks
/ @wranglerstar
SUBSCRIBE: bit.ly/2btWfQR and turn on notifications to get them
#Proho #wranglerstar - Розваги
Any advice for trade school subjects for women? 29 here don't know what to do for at least 20 good working years
Where are your children, family, and husband? Should you not be looking to this?
@@wranglerstar living with family currently. Trying to set my self for financial independence for a future family 🙏 cannot survive on one income nowadays.
You have sacrificed your fertility on the alter of financial independence. We all make choices,
@@wranglerstar ty 🙏
By the year 2030 it is projected that 50% of American women will be childless and alone, let that sink in,
As a college professor I encourage my own kids to purse a trade first...then higher education later, if needed.
Straight from the horses mouth,
Good advice! I encourage younger people to get a trade, then a small business course with basic accounting, and to start their own business. No one ever gets rich working for someone else.
There's always a path from trades to university. Practical field experience goes a long way when you move on to the higher level theory and planning you learn in an engineering degree.
Thank God for you!
That is what I did. I was a aybc certified master yacht mechanic. And now I’m studying for my fire science and paramedic degrees. Currently an EMT
My son left university after one year and became a plumber/gas-fitter apprentice. Caused major fighting between me (who supported this move) and my wife (who wanted him to get a college degree in ‘whatever’).
He’s now 21, makes about $60k, debt-free and building a nest egg to buy property. Most importantly, he’s the happiest I’ve seen him since he was 10 years old.
Been a plumber for 21 yrs started at age 40 ,will always be in demand
@@robertblakely7970how’s your body now currently
College is good. Learning a trade is good too. It really depends on what the person wants to do for the rest of his or her life. The problem is that many people didnt know what they want to do in their 20s they are still young. Glad that your son is doing good.
As a college prof, we are shifting more and more to skills based curriculum. Even doing programs with apprenticeships in the trades. Universities need to shift their models as many are closing down
It is way past time for a worldwide revolution against college prices. If everyone, and I mean everyone, refused to attend, prices would drop literally overnight.
I agree that trades are better for job security. I feel that my Chemistry university degree expanded my mind and worldly knowledge in ways that has helped me tremendously, yet I never actually worked as a Chemist. Good luck young people.
Trade. Most millionaires started in the Trades. Not many business degrees get to be millionaires just managers of McDonalds. I started in the trades and now have 25 employees. Get your degree later
@@philais most millionaires have a made up backstory told about them to make it seem like they are commoners meanwhile they had very very rich and well connected family
good luck to you too bud (good advice fyi)
I’m 19 and started doing residential HVAC right out of high school. Working on getting my EPA and NATE certifications currently. Couldn’t be happier with my choice of work. I love learning aspects of almost every trade in one. Not enough people my age are getting into the trades. In their eyes they see it as failure. Instead they are spending close to 100k on business degrees.
Less people Persuing trades = more money to be made for guys like u and me 😂
People who do that are dumb. But there are way cheaper ways to get business degrees. After grants I graduated from my local university with a mechanical engineering degree and no debt. We need to be comparing trades to degrees without the caveat that all degrees cost 100k. They don’t if you go to community college then transfer to a state school
I went to a small conservative university, got a liberal arts degree in computer science and landed a job paying almost 6 figures a few months after graduation. I don’t think people need to look at what the “standard” option is. They need to recognize that college, trade and direct to workforce are all options with pros and cons. And for your situation you need to figure out what works and what career you are seeking. The problem is that as soon as you enter kindergarten, teachers tell you “Get good grades so you can get into a good college.” As if it’s the only really “successful” path in life.
It’s all about return on investment, collage or trades look at it that way, proud of you man!
Computer science is not an arts degree 🤔
Or was the computer degree based around temple os
As that could be considered an arts degree lol
@@MegaRyan123456 it’s a bachelors of science. A liberal arts degree means you take core classes not directly related to your degree. Philosophy, religion, history, etc. I also got a minor in history while I was there.
@@JJKK408 I am in Australia so it's all different here
But yer computer science is still a stem career and practical work ... So it all ties in with this
Wish I didn’t wait until my mid 20s to figure it out. Finally getting into project managing and starting my own roll off dumpster business. It’s allowing us to keep my wife at home raising our baby that is on the way. You’ve motivated me a lot throughout the years, Cody. Thank you
My nursing degree cost me about $8k, which is nothing. I made it back in my first two months. You have to truly assess your cost and the potential benefit. I’m a big advocate of trade schools. We all have certain abilities and talents. Find your own way and the least expensive way to get there.
I have done both. I graduated colege with a 3.7 GPA and earned a bachelor's degree. I worked for 3 or 4 years at distribution centers, factories and personal training. But wanted to make more money. I then went on and joined the local bricklayers union as a refractory bricklayer. I served my apprenticeship and became a journeyman. I worked at various steel mills such as SDI, AMACOR, CAPT and St Marys Foundry. I relined many furnaces, installed firebrick, made many precast shapes and worked on tundish's electric arc furnaces and cupolas. All the while being subject to very hot and hazardous environments. I made pretty good money being in the union. Double time over 8 hours, double time on weekends and holidays. Over time it wore me out and I wanted more time spent with my family and girlfriend. No matter how much money you make working odd shifts, long hours and traveling does take a toll.
I have since been blssed with a great regional sales manager position for excavator attachements. It is a very fulfilling job, the pay and benefits are great, vacation time and knowing my schedule is the same day in and day out is great. If you have worked construction for any amount of time you know that the schedule can change on the fly without a moments notice.
With all that said find out what is best for you. It might take 3 yhears or it might take you 20. But when you find the right fit you will know immediately. I learned invaluable skills along the way to becoming a sales manager I would not change any of it.
If you want to go to college then learn something important like business, accounting, finance, computer science, become a doctor a nurse or physical therapist. There are too many college degrees that promise great prosperity and that is simply not the case. Take the time in your early teens to learn about various trades what they pay ect learn to read a tape measure and how to build and read prints. But also be aware that maybe working in an office, a hospital or a firm is a good idea too.
Yep, I decided in my young 20's that I wanted to go learn a trade, so I became a machinist, now 30+ years later, I have retired as a machinist and still make a good wage. College is not for everyone and we need skilled workers.
I am currently in school at 18 learning machining.
Great advice! The number of people with college degrees working at low paying go nowhere jobs is staggering. Their also in debit up to their eyeballs for many thousands and thousands of dollars. Learning a skill that is in demand and being diligent in your work habits will keep you employed and in demand. Once you learn the ropes the next step is self employment. You can make a profit not just a good wage and have full control of your time.
Wow that's terrifying
If the number of unemployed college graduates is rising
You know that college isn't worth it
Another thing to consider is that if you do decide to go to college you should pick a degree that is actually useful and applicable. If the field of your degree is purely academic, it is important that you are aware of what you are getting into.
If the title of your degree doesn’t sound like a job description, stay away from it. Gender studies, Medieval literature, women’s literature, all won’t pay. Electrical engineering, systems engineering, systems management, etc, all will pay.
@@dejavu666wampas9 it’s not that simple. I know a lot of people tried to study engineering or medicine because they are well-paid careers. No one finished the career. Most of them dropped out after the first year because they didn’t like their careers. I remember a girl who was majoring in civil engineering. She said she enrolled in civil engineering because she heard it pays well, but she didn’t have the slightest idea what the career was about. Long story short, she failed all her classes in the first semester. After that, she dropped out. I majored in English when I went to college, and to be honest I didn’t have an idea of what I wanted to do after college. A couple of years later, I found my calling in teaching, which isn’t a well-paid career. However, since I’m debt free and single, I can make just fine with my current salary. As a teacher, I think we should guide students towards trades as a career. College is not for everyone, and there are a lot of demand for trade.
@@jearauz - Believe me, I’m all for directing people away from stupid, useless, and expensive, college educations, and sending them toward a career in the trades. That’s where the jobs are, and where societal needs lie. A good life awaits anyone going to trade school.
I’m with you all the way.
I did trade school for hvac. All I can say is don’t go for electrician… they are only needed for new construction… hvacr is needed year round. My union package is over $103 an hour now and health insurance is better than you could imagine
I am 17, this summer on a mission trip we were evangelizing in NYC. Before that, I always believed that my job is to become a software engineer. I have been studying that since 7th grade, made multiple programs, and performed better than anyone in my class. On that mission trip, God showed me what He wants me to do. Fasting, and praying constantly, His voice was made clear, He spoke through my Father. I see right now that God wants me to be in the trades specifically as a General Contractor. It is much more flexible as I can work solely. When Adam received his punishment God said that at the sweat of his brow, he would support his family. I also see that going into trades, will keep me from mixing with this world, and will help me honor God. Even in the work I will do, there lay many opportunities to help others, and serving Him.
God bless you brother.
@@TCallier Thank you! You as well!
I was 18 about to graduate high school fully mentally committed the trades Last minute I signed up for community college Fontana community college a bunch of crazy stuff happened in my personal life now I’m 22 just now getting myself set up for trade school it’s still seems worth it damn I wish I went with my gut back then
There’s a typo in there but I think it makes sense
I’m 20 and 2 years into electrical school and 3 years into electrical work as an apprentice. Working well for me so far! Thanks for the video
hey man, know im a year late but im currently a sophomore in highschool and im just really lost on where i want to go for a career, just curious how is it going so far and is getting an apprenticeship hard
@@kashdean4968 it’s going really well. I’m 22 now and I’m a self employed electrician with my own van, my own tools, making good money. I really recommend being an electrician and I don’t think you would have trouble getting an apprenticeship because people are looking for good help
I joined a construction electrician apprenticeship when I was 20 years old, it was a 5 year long program, I graduated with no debt making about 30 dollars an hour, about 2 years after graduating I was offered a job as something called a Instrumentation Technician, I worked on and repaired devices that measured pressure/temperature/flow in industrial environments, that job paid about 36 an hour, about 2 years after that I was offered a job as an Analyzer Instrumentation Technician which was a job where I worked on devices that would measure the chemical composition of process fluids/gases in the industrial environment, and that job paid well over 40 dollars an hour. All that was done without ever going to college and without ever paying for any other form of schooling, I also highly recommend the skilled trades to anyone over college. Basic skilled trades jobs pay as good or better then what you would get fresh out of college with almost any degree, and the room for jumping up into more and more lucrative fields is almost endless. Also I can confirm that the bar of expectations really is SO low that if you can just pass a drug test and show up to work each day you will be head and shoulders above all your coworkers, and then on top of that if you can maintain a polite and positive attitude... there is no stopping you then lol
I went to a junior college for welding 1200 miles from home came back and enrolled in trades school at local tribal college and went into electrical at the university off the reservation. Came back to the place I started my education and now I run the program at the tribal college. Best decision of my life. Now our program went from 47 to to 61 credits. Hopefully we can get it approved for a associates degree.
I think going into this future. What younger people should look at is jobs that are essential. What I mean by that is a job that wont be restricted by lock downs from their government. I am a machinist and during the so called pandemic my trade was called essential and I got to work no matter what. I knew people that couldn't or even lost their job. Either because there company had problems or they would not do what was forced on them. This is going to be important going into this new reality were in. These people in charge saw how they could control people in these situations so you can be sure it will happen again.
I went to college and after 14 years in my field I was making $25 an hour. I then went a 16 month RN program and 3 years later make $87 an hour. Working 4 days a week I will make over 220k a year. Trade school is the way to go
RN as in registurned nurse? asking cause im 20 and debating between nursing and trades as my future career.
I make more money than God
Trade school is what I did. Got multiple federal licenses and state licenses. Obviously if you want to be a doctor or something, go to college, we need them too. But the trades are worth so much money...
@@meontele_gramWranglerstar1 this is spam... Hopfully @wranglerstar does something about it.
Going into Trade school before getting an apprenticeship is useless and wont get you any get any further ahead than starting with an a apprenticeship.
Ive met countless Apprentices who went to trade school out of highschool, paid for it out of their own pockets, but had to start at the bottom anyways once they got their apprenticeship.
You wouldn’t want to have to start your schooling all over again either, its expensive and redundant.
I did a late life career change at 39 years old. I struggled to land first job in HVAC, doing HVAC for 5 years now , best choice ever. Disclaimer if you’re like me an older guy changing careers late in life prepare to be pre-judged and unfairly assessed due to your age.
Quality, reliable electricians and plumbers are always in high demand.
Left my career is administration, became a paramedic, and i have zero regrets. I am nationally registered I can pick up and move anywhere. The wife works relief as a nurse. Our jobs are short staffed nation wide. So we can work wherever we please. It is a good time to be in a specialized career.
I live on a farm in an English community in Quebec Canada. The farm isn't going to be around much longer, my grandparents want to sell it. I don't have any job credentials other than a farm hand, I'll provide have to go into the trades one day.
It’s gonna be a long time before AI takes over skilled trades. I’m missing your regular videos Cody. God bless
Its going to be tough to automate jobs like a plumber or electrician. You're talking a pretty sophisticated robot.
Not really… I don’t think the average person truly has a grasp on how close we are to a lot of these trade jobs being automated… AI can be trained to identify problems on ways humans can’t comprehend. Combine that with a robotic system and it could easily out class a human tradesman.
Look at the recent Boston dynamics videos… in a matter of 10 years that robot went from barely being able to stand upright to setting up a ramp and carrying tools though a mock worksite and doing extremely complex acrobatics. Another 5-10 years it is not inconceivable for these robots to be outfitted with autonomous systems for construction and repair.
I’m very remote/ poor locations humans may still be performing manual labor for a few decades but in most locations in the United States we are very close to 99 percent of jobs being automated away.
If you want to be employable in the future it probably smartest to focus on extremely advanced technical and scientific fields, as the complexity of these jobs may give another decade or so buffer when it comes to automation.
Doctors will be automated way before anything blue collar. All they are are glorified drug dispensary anyway
@@JD-yx7be I’ve heard this opinion quite a lot. This coming collapse/depression is going to hit white collar hardest although I’m not sure how that works because all my customers are very much white collar executives. Once their income is hit, it will immediately trickle down to my income
Got my certification in medical billing in 4 months online. Got a job 2 days after I got through. There are jobs out there that don't need college degrees, you just need to get creative and you can find a job that will fulfil you and provide for your family
Where can I find this type of certification.
@@jaleesa00, if you are in the United States, your local community college may offer a program for medical assistant/billing certifications. If not, you may be able to find an online program offering certificates. Cheers.
Is the job good or pay decent?
Well said and great topic ! I went to auto/diesel and welding school back in the late 1980's and really enjoyed the experience as it helped guide me in the direction we went . And I'm still welding & working on diesel's today LOL ! 😁Ca Ching $
Back in high screwel the Trades were looked down upon and we were supposed to go borrow a buch a money for college degree ....
I'm getting a laugh now that acidemia appreciates the trades as it's hard to find trained technicians today . Anything in building , mechanical , electrical , welding and don't forget the most important ..... AGRICULTURE as people like to eat ! 😀👍
Did a 5 year apprenticeship with the pipefitters. Best thing that ever happened to me. Made me grow up and now I have a career and a pension to support my family! I never would've made it through college
I completed an 8000 hr apprenticeship in my early 20s( pipefitter). Got my college degree at 40. Worked as a teacher and community College technical instructor when I retired from my first career. I learned a great deal more real world knowledge in the trades than I ever could in college . I highly recommend it. If I did it again, I would go into electrical work. If they ever do eliminate fossil fuel there will be so much demand for electricians you will make a very good living.
I went to a technical college at the age of 50 (2010-2011) because the business (construction) I was in crashed with the economy. Got an HVAC 2 year diploma in 5 quarters, and it turned into a job. My advice to a young person would be, get an HVAC diploma and go to work at a freezer plant where they use ammonia refrigeration. The school I went to, Lanier Tech. has an ammonia refrigeration course but the only way to get in it is to be sent by a company, you can't just walk in "off the street". After that you could name your price.
I kind of stumbled into Engineering as it’s a family tradition. I encourage anyone with the right disposition to do it. Good pay, job security, and mentally stimulating.
There are so many types. Any way to figure out whats best?
And what about the truck driving, does it have good job security?
23 years old and a journeyman inside wireman here in wisconsin. Made 120k last year including benefits all while working local and being home every weekend. Our area is still looking for people to fill jobs for the last 6+ months Oh well, less people in the trade just makes me more valuable
Hey Cody, I very much agree with you. My brother and I have just purchased and plan on continuing a masonry trade school. A full 9 month program. Please keep us in your prayers! God bless, and happy Sabbath!
As a product of both I can tell you first hand that I took more from my trades education than I ever did from my advanced degree.
I chose manufacturing, learn how things are made and you'll come to understand the world is just one big industrial lego set
Spot on brother...Electrical/Electronics trade school grad (1985). Worked my but off paying my dues (weekends and stripping copper and cleaning up). Got my EE and PMP becuase of the Army. Ran my own business for 16 years and raised a family and cash flowed college for three kids (debt free). Trades are something to extol not scoff at (everyone needs a plumber when the water is rising). Dirty hands and an honest days work are a blessing that few can appreciate. Thanks for what you do. Drive on...
Be a glazier they said.
Equipment is expensive and heavy, glass is heavy, aluminium gets heavy in 24' extrusions, you need tools from about every trades' belts.
Lots of work in lifts and swing scaffold.
But there aren't many of us, and architects are only using more and more glass.
We are aluminum carpenters, caulk masters, and cowboys.
I plied my trade all over the country while I repaid some debts and grew up a bit.
When i got sick and off the road, my skillset was ready for high rise work.
Now, I'm among the group of people who get paid to work on public buildings, compensated, 3 hands away, by the tax payers.
I like how he says trades then says electrical engineering lol
Yeah that was pretty funny
I must say, as a newish subscriber, I've througouhly enjoyed your videos Mr. Wranglerstar. I've been on a binge and have genuinely enjoyed each one. You've inspired me to begin woodworking and I'm slowly getting the tools I need before I start any projects. As for your other videos that aren't tool related, I could honestly listen to you and your life experiences for hours on end. You have such a calm demeanor and it is quite relaxing to listen to you. Keep up the amazing work, and I will continue to look forward to your wonderful videos. Thank you for everything!
Thank you for these kind words, Mrs W and I are glad to have you on board,
Having been to a community college thanks to a love of chemistry, I can guarantee you'll learn a lot more than you paid for. The thoughtful professors always find a way to incorporate great insights into their lessons. Think you're stepping into an English class? Wrong! It's actually a class that teaches you about the infinite hues of the gender spectrum. Then, once you're done in there, you'll chase that poison down with some algebra. Did I say algebra? I meant to say the memoirs of a professor. Here you'll learn all about the life and political ideologies of someone who knows algebra. If this all sounds ridiculous to you, it's because the college process hasn't worked on you yet. Eventually, you'll feel your old self wither down as the new you takes its first steps towards a paper that reads, "I'm educated."
Additionally, dual enroll while in high school, get basic requirements done... continue and finish comm college after high school. Then, get into a place that will pay for 'real college' later, if you even want to. trades are great, meaningful careers.
Agree,,,All trades..Framers, Sidewallers, Roofers, electricians, plumbers, welders. Always going to be new homes built, older homes remodeled, and the wealthy always want to be upgraded every couple years .
Have my own Framing / remodeling co, booked up to a year out , every year for the last 29 years. Never missed a day of work. You can make 100k-500k easily
I went the traditional 4 year bachelors route. I have regretted it for the last 10 years since I graduated. Total waste of money and time. I went back to school for welding and love it. When everyone has a degree, no one does.
This isn't even a debate anymore. I'm a programmer and I urge everyone to get into trades.
Basically every job that takes place in front of a computer, or behind the wheel of a car/truck, will be gone in 10-20 years.
Journeyman electrician here. Was young and dumb, didn’t get into the apprenticeship until I was 32. Wish I had done it at 18. Now make $46 an hour, have a retirement, and pay nothing out of pocket for health care. Get a skilled trade!
I work at a large mining company who has 7 mines all within one city ,, reading the seniority list we have 200 plus who have their 30 years in and can retire plus many more who has 20 years and are over 60 years old. Trades pay $42 hour plus bounus ..
Thank you for the advice, 18 year old senior stuck on what to do and this helped a lot !
I agree with being an electrician...it is the future. Im an industrial mechanic and make 80k / year and im not even 30. I can literally find a new job with the same pay in less than a week. Everyone is desperate for skilled workers
As someone who got pushed through the “correct” path (which, in my day, was university), I wish I could turn back time and get into a trade. College doesn’t even guarantee higher income (if you are sensible and reasonably capable) and I can’t think of one person I know who is actually working the field they studied in college. Everyone found it to be a let down and had to get retrained or just went into a field that didn’t need college in the first place. It makes sense for some people, but not most.
English major from a 'hoity toity private U,' IT code developer for profession. the 4 years of college were a waste of 4 years of unrealized potential income
Sure its not a guarantee but on average a college degree is earning you about 30k-60k more than a highschool educated only person.
Very true, I studied welding combination just in case our country went haywire and then continued to study architecture. Then COVID happened, had to ditch school to make money. Thank God I knew how to weld, prayed it up and searched fora job and now I make 75-110k a year in my welding trade. Definitely do recommend
I think I did something kinda neat. I'm 20 rn getting a degree in aerospace engineering but I managed to find a job as a millwright apprentice. If I want a lot of money and do what I love I could get a job as an engineer, and I have practical design experience and a fallback as a millwright
Electrical and plumbing/gas-fitting are the best two trade fields in terms of flexibility. Both will allow you to live just about anywhere and have a traditional lifestyle. Some trades will limit where you can settle to make really good money.
I’m fortunate enough to be using my GI bill for college, AND came out of the military with (somewhat) of a trade; a 100 ton captains license. The money I can make on a captains license alone can support me comfortably for the rest of my life, however looking into careers that utilize both a degree and my trade is the dream. I think either option is great, but having both can (hopefully) get me far.
I work for a state DOT construction department (insert hate comments below) EVERY type of contractor are looking for workers. Paving, carpentry, welding, concrete, dirt work, mining, electrical, truck drivers, the list goes on. There are options and these jobs pay living wages, granted you actually have to work and put in effort. We need more people.
The question is are u doing it for money or to learn? I was never good at school but I still went to college here in the UK and studied basic vehicle mechanics for 2 years then moved on to body repair for a year! This was about 15 years ago and I still have not got a job in that industry but what I did learn has come in so handy over the years! I now work in construction without any formal education and there isn't a job I can't put my hand to on a building site Its crazy to me how many tradespeople there are that only know one little subject and haven't got a clue about anything else construction related! My advice would be to find a small company that is willing to teach you even if you are not earning the big bucks that will come with knowledge
I went to community college for 2 years to be an Electrician. Then joined the IBEW apprenticeship program, graduated. The only thing I paid for in the IBEW apprenticeship program was books and tools. Best decision I ever made.
As someone going into college looking to get standard degrees, I still find trade school to be one of the most important and helpful post-high school options
To each their own, but I wouldn’t be able to drive to school without the trade schooled mechanic that made it possible👍🏽
@@meontele_gramWranglerstar1 Aw come on man👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽
The college educated engineer made it possible for the mechanic to have a car to build and work on.
100% agree. Electrical trade is essential. I plan on sending my son to a high school trade school as an option when he's a teenager. I atleast want him to have a fall back plan incase he doesn't know what he wants to do in college.
If you are in the PNW: Check out the Spokane Community College Hydraulic and Pneumatic Automation Program (name may be changing soon) 100% employment at graduation since 1972. A person right out of high school will be solidly in the middle class at 20 years old. The electrical program at the same school?... 0-5% employment at graduation.
Yes this is some really good advice I'm a heavy equipment operator apprentice for local 12 California takes about 3 years to do the apprenticeship and it'll be out about 50/60 an hour
I did a 5 year electrical apprenticeship in San Diego and it was the best career move I have ever made.
I am an electrician and I can tell you we are hurting for apprentices at our shop. We are down to the point that if you have a good work ethic and a pulse, we will put you to work. It’s not hard to show up and put in the work.
Jumped into the union when I was 18 started a apprenticeship to be a lineman at 21 (needed a class a CDL to apply) topped out as a journey at 24 haven’t looked back sense. Been making over 200k every year since I topped out.
I’m a tradesman. I wanted to go to college and couldn’t at the time.
Prioritize for the long term. Do what you *want* first and foremost. You’re investing time and money with either chosen pathway, so perform some self reflection and just do what you want to do. And be smart about it, of course.
I went through a welding apprenticeship, became a journeyman, and now make a decent 6 figure salary.
Good recommendation 💯 don't forget the mechanics of the world like your grandfather!! We can work anywhere aswell
The answer to this like so many other things is it depends. I’m an engineer and that’s been a good choice as I look back. I’ve told my kids that if you’re going to college don’t waste your time and money if you’re not going to major in engineering, business or medical something or other. They’re far better off learning a trade. Whatever path they choose just getting through high school isn’t enough anymore.
Amen I bought my house at 19 I will be finished apprenticeship next march!! I’m 21 now.
The cool thing about trades is you level up in a sense over time. So your pay will be guaranteed to increase as you get better and prove yourself. Unlike entry level or most management jobs where you get your 2-4% a year as you slowly drown. Plus OT is abundant which just adds to your pay. Also don't forget other trades like Lineman for utility companies or traveling welders they can get 100K+ with OT
6 figures usually in high cost areas
As someone who got a degree in engineering I agree with you. My biggest gripe with college is that very little of what you are taught in school is applied to work for 90% of the people. Honestly I could do my job without a college degree with just a year of work experience. Luckily I chose to work out in the field so it is not as boring.
But becoming an electrician or something similar is a pretty sweet deal. I could definitely see myself doing it. Not to mention the money you could make working under the table. Endless opportunity there.
Retired engineer here, I have told younger colleagues that really all you need to do is go to school and learn Solidworks, Catia, Unigraphics, etc. get certified in the software, then go job hunting. There's always a place for adept CAD operators who know their way around any software suite, even Autocad.
Good place to start.
@@somebodyspapa5005 hey I was wondering if I could you guy’s input, I’m currently debating on getting my mechanical engineering degree or go into trade school, the issue is I’m 25, I’m late to the party unfortunately. I don’t know weather it worth going after a ME degree considering how old I am , the prices etc. either way any inputs, advice or anything would be greatly appreciated.
I’m 21 and currently pursuing a bachelor’s in Industrial Technology with a concentration in maintenance and manufacturing management. My coursework includes anything from industrial management and accounting, to welding, CNC machining, PLC, and industrial electronics. It prepares you for a supervisor/management role in the trades or in industry. If you are a young person not sure if you want to go to trade school or college this is an excellent compromise. Companies are back flipping to hire us, on a weekly basis there is a big name on campus looking for applicants for internships, co-ops, apprenticeships, and postgraduate positions. Boeing, Honda, Caterpillar, Nissan, Toyota, Milwaukee tools, Chevron, Eaton Aerospace, GE, Hol-Mac, Yokohama… you name it they are hiring graduates of industrial tech.
The easiest money still comes from learning to code. All you need is a computer and a willingness to learn. The course material is all online and free. If you're good at it you can make upwards of $200k entry level with a remote job.
One of my nephews just turned 19, and I've been begging him to get a trade. I've told him the exact thing you mentioned at the end. I hope he will.
Great advice.
I needed this! I'm about to go to welding school next month.
Construction Trades pay better than office jobs, cashier. Retail work etc
I got a college degree. I never did a damn thing with it. Graduated college in 2007 and all the entry level jobs required 5 years experience. WTF? Now I work for the railroad and make far more than I ever could have made with a degree. I'll encourage my kids to develop skills versus college debt.
I worked in the construction industry and could find a job anywhere! But I spent over 20 yrs in the forestry industry, from municipal service to private residential and commercial, to line clearance. I can operate any piece of equipment made by man, and if I don’t know how I can learn in less than a day to be efficient. I had my Class A CDL and could drive anything on the roads.
So I always had multiple opportunities anywhere I went. I am efficient in all facets of construction except hvac and can learn that trade as well. I can repair anything mechanical except automatic transmissions but can learn that if needed. I can weld can do some fabrication work.
My skill set is vast, priceless, and will always be in demand anywhere I choose to go.
Nailed it.
My dad said this when I was young, and now I tell my sons the same thing.
My electrician has a four year college degree in Folk History but couldn't find a job in that field.
cody, i went to a trade high school and went through the electrical progrema there, unfortunately I have a degenerative eye disease, the thought of being stuck in a trade when I could go blind at any time made me go to college. I enjoyed my time learning about the trades and would never change it but I have to set myself up to not be reliant on my eyes.
Showing up for work, being reliable, and getting a good paycheck is what I want to see more of in this country.
The overwork mentality isn't right. I get that there might or might not be reasons, but the way many young people treat jobs that are actually paying them closer to well is not cool.
There's a difference between being a bad employee that's more of a harm than help, being a reliable employee for who work-life balance and not overworking is important, and a masochistic over-worker. Like often in life, the middle way is the way to go, but I don't really see these as a spectrum.
College is a great tool but it’s not the only tool. Use college to increase your position and education to better support your family. If you do go to college, don’t pick a degree that is a net negative on your life. Engineering, sciences, the medical field and teachers will always be in high demand. But there will always be a high demand for the trades as well. Take your early 20s to put yourself in a good spot to support a family with an education that will stand the test of time.
You are absolutely correct. I went to collage and got an engineering degree and worked as an aerospace engineer for 31 years. Times have changed. college Other than highly technical degrees are a one way trip into financial slavery. There is a critical shortage of doers. An electrician, plumber, HVAC technician, etc are doers and will make good livings. Those with initiative will work for a few years and then set up their own businesses and have other doers working for them and be wealthy.
as someone in the eu speaking this is really happening non stop
I took transgender studies and am the CEO of of a Fortune 500 company. I suggest you take a useful college program like me for your success.
I’m late to the comments but I was in HVACR for 20 years and just bought into the union as a Journeyman Steamfitter with my experience. I make $130k a year with minimal overtime. Wife only works like 12 hours a week. Have a beautiful 3800sq ft country home with acreage. A real fireplace. It’s bliss.
i agree with this 1000%. I'm 20 and im making $40 an hour as a welder in a manufacturing plant.
Another option is to join the military and have uncle sam pay for college or trade school while also learning a useful skill. Many places count military experience in the same or similar field.
Do both. Start with a trade and go into a four year degree. Find a field you’re interested in and learn the trade. When you’ve got a couple years of experience start thinking about either getting a bachelors in that field or completing a liberal arts degree. I know some people will scoff at the suggestion of pursuing a liberal arts education but there is a ton of value in a well crafted liberal arts curriculum, particularly one that emphasizes writing. You will gain a set of valuable thinking and analytical skills that will make you a better tradesman.
Overhead linemen are in huge demand as well, can get a job anywhere you want (once you're a journeyman). BTW, it's one of those jobs that will allow one income to support a big family.
Arboriculture is similar but most of it is done out side where the fresh air and views can more than make up for a rainy day.
i’m going to a trade highschool for automotive right now. much more worth it in my opinion than college
Just found your channel and I am getting loads out of it. I listened to your "God and other good advice" stream and darn it if your didnt say some stuff that I needed to hear. Thank you for being sensitive to the Holy Spirit. God is good. Blessings from Kelowna, B.C. Keep it up good sir.
I got in as an appliance repairman at 18 fresh out of high school, been doing it 2 years now. Ended up working on sealed systems. In high school I thought I was going to go in as an electrician. Right now I am kind of torn between going into commercial refrigeration or just starting fresh as an electrician apprentice because the job I'm at isn't really working out.
I clicked on this video knowing you would say trades, but I’m so excited that you said electrical engineering too!
Hope you see this 👋 I really enjoy your videos. I think you’ve given some good fatherly/manly advice and info. I appreciate that. And I find your videos very comforting in the chaos of modern city life. Thanks.
I agree. Spent my following years after highschool as an electrician, and now am in the industrial field supporting my family. Especially for young men like myself, by the time I’m 40 I will be ahead of the ball game due to less and less people my age entering these fields. I’m blessed to have the opportunity I have and haven’t looked back. God bless sir.
Yep...agree 100% Also add that it it a good path to being able to do side jobs or be self employed if you want.