Still got my .22 HW80 which i bought new from hull cartridge with my first couple of paychecks back in 84’ . True it’s a heavy beast but super reliable and still gets the job done ✅
I started off sub 12 ft/lb springer/rams and PCPs and decided FAC big bore pneumatics and FAC springers including HW80 and gas rams are the way forward. I have 5 so far, due to COVID delays,band by the end of 2023, I'll have 12 in total.
Really appreciate to see my old HW80 in someone possible to enjoy it at the best, it has a TBT kit in , yes I was the second owner, I remember putting up for sale with a bitter taste, yes it was purchased from a gunsmith. Glad is in good hands !!! I what it back now ! And if you’re interested it’s loveing Gamo TS10 . Cheers, enjoy!
Hi gentlemen and thankyou for your revue of the 80, I enjoyed it and your passion too. I'm sure you are the same, in looking after your belongings, as I am too. I was surprised to see the shoulder strap fixed to your barrel on your 80, especially being previously owned by a gunsmith. However, the gunsmith may have been of the opinion that barrel pivot was made heavy enough to cope with the load and not risk barrel wobble. I understand the break barrel pivot is a male and female, flat head bolt, which can easily be tightened where it to come loose. For example, the meteor, different level I know, was like a rivot and much more difficult to rectify. Great respect to the gunsmith, I wouldn't attach a shoulder sling there. I carefully fitted sling attachments under the fore end, but far enough away from the cocking lever cut out. I purchased an SA 80 rifle strap, and the section of the strap which goes over the shoulder, cut it out and re joined in seat belt strapping, to disperse the eighties weight. I find that works for me. I'd love to hear your opinions. Good luck and take care.
I don't think the hw80 was ever intended to replace the hw35 it was more of an alternative to the FWB sport and the Original (diana) mod 45 the beeman shaped version you have there replaced the original hw80mk1 which in my opinion is far better looking than the beeman type stock you have there. So essentially you have an 80mk2. All great guns of course as they have the same action. I would ditch the brass asap and order some original parts and a set of original open sights to make it look as it should and add value. Tbt kits are good. No need for a pcp with such a good self contained hunting rifle.😎
I once owned an HW35 (Lost to a house fire), but have owned an HW80 and the HW95 for quite a few years. A fine tuned HW80 - although heavy - is one heck of an accurate, virtually silent rifle, but while I think the HW95 equals it for accuracy, it definitely beats it in terms of heft when out for a wander. As well as if shooting from standing and kneeling positions. My preference is HW80 if shooting from a hide and the HW95 when on walkabout. Paired with a decent scope and a lot of practise, you could invest in either rifle and you'll seldom need another, unless heading down the pcp route for the obvious increased rate of fire, but springers remain virtually bomb proof and trouble free..... Especially if investing at a reasonable price level where overall parts quality genuinely makes a very real difference in relation to consistency, accuracy and retained re-sale value. 🙂
Yep me to an advocate of the HW80. I had a mk1 in 1983 with the angular stock at the front (very collectible now) and regret selling it. I now have a newer mk2 hw80k with tbn kit fitted with the reduced cocking stroke and it runs at 11.44 ftlbs, is silky smooth to cock and fire and recoil is almost non existent. I will never sell it.
Yes Beeman retailed HWs in the USA with the Beeman name on them , if I mind right one of the most unusual Beeman's was a straight stocked HW80k , maybe even a Webley Vulcan , can't honestly remember.
In the UK with 12 sub ft-lb restriction it has no use to buy a HW80. The HW95 will be a better choice. The 80 is a rifle that should deliver it's full potential. My 80K is in .25cal and a beast.
Loads of laughs on xmas day, cheers guys just reminds me of all the fantastic bollocks talked about airguns, please keep it up it is a great service to mankind.
Mine is an Beeman R1 carbine in .20 cal. I try to shoot it at least 15-20 times every day down in the basement. I bought it new about seven years ago, and after a few hundred shots it blew the piston seal because of a manufacturing defect. I sent it to John in PA to have him repair it and detune it. He worked with Vortek to come up with a solution, and then buttoned the piston and some other stuff that he works his magic on. Now the rifle shoots JSB`s at an average of 673 fps, with an ES of 4 fps. I shoot at 13 yards in the basement and it will shoot group after group that are basically the same hole. It is much easier to cock, which is what I wanted the most, and is a pleasure to shoot. Once in a while I use it to shoot a squirrel, and it puts the pellet exactly where needed in the old noggin. There is a good reason that these are considered to be heirloom rifles, my rifle will be a true joy to me for my lifetime, and then on to the next person for their lifetime.
Those mk1 stocks with the angular Fore end are quite sought after, made of walnut rather than beech too i think? A well looked after 35E will hold its value well, but as for overall rarity Its the Vixen editions that can fetch a good chunk of money.
dr beeman imported a lot af brands under his name ,and the hw 80 is first made as r 1 invented by beeman and herman weihrauch (. they visited each other . in the usa and germany )with the full power spring , later weihrauch make them available outside the usa as the HW 80 a r 1 was first
HW80 (R1) was never intended to replace the HW35. The HW80 was developed in conjunction with Beeman who wanted what he called a "Magnum Air rifle". It was developed in isolation & not to replace any HW model. To reach the Magnum level it has a bigger piston tube diameter with associated bigger & heavier piston & more swept volume. The HW80 has to be restricted for UK use & is barely ticking over at 12ft lbs. I prefer my Webley Longbow, lighter, Walther barrel, carbine length & so accurate, trigger very close to the Record. Best BB Webley released & designed in conjunction with Venom. Longbow is better than the HW95 (95 is not that good a rifle TBH, 99S is better if you are lucky enough to get one that doesn't gaul).
That's not an 80. That's the new stock 80, nah just not an 80. The 80 was one of the best rifles ever wish I'd kept mine. Also had the 35, 77,95,97, 110 and the 100 yes I love the HW rifles.
Pimping a HW80 with gold plated trigger guard, safety pin and brass screws makes it in my opinion cheap looking air rifle, but of corse it's a question of taste. Not my cup of tea.
I've been seriously considering the Wire Rack 80. Available for $513 ear. I guess buying a US spec XM1 turned me off to PCP. Only good for a single magazine on a fill. Thanks for the latest episode. Missed seeing the dynamic duo.
There are a few air rifles that can be pimped with brass. The HW80, and HW77, but others HWs possible. Preferably a custom, or tune kit fitted. Brass being trigger guard, trigger, safety catch, with stock screws optional. Deluxe stock, or better still after market custom stock with some figuring. Brass pretty yuck on anything else. Someone put some thought and investment in your example. Few shotgun gunsmiths know their beans when it comes to air rifles. They just think they do.
I have 3 pcps bsa scorpion hw 100 and the new r12 bsa... I went to the gun shop he said hey you want a springer to do up. I said hmmm ok then. He said 10 pound. Ok I'll take it... it was a hw35 done it up looks brand new it's a 1974 model no safty catch
Put many a meal on our table the hw80 simply superb a must for everyones cabinet
Cant Argue with that mate 👍👍
Right!
Still got my .22 HW80 which i bought new from hull cartridge with my first couple of paychecks back in 84’ . True it’s a heavy beast but super reliable and still gets the job done ✅
You've had yours about the same time as i had mine.
It’s easy done. A HW 80 was my last spring gun before going to pcp’s, was a hell of a gun
I went from a PCP to HW springers. I prefer the simplicity and reliability from a HW springer and i,m happy i can skip all the tralala around a PCP.
I started off sub 12 ft/lb springer/rams and PCPs and decided FAC big bore pneumatics and FAC springers including HW80 and gas rams are the way forward. I have 5 so far, due to COVID delays,band by the end of 2023, I'll have 12 in total.
My hw80 in near on 40 year old and still shoots like a dream . It's the only gun you need and is still more accurate than any person can be .
Right👍
Tbt kit in mine super smooth and bloody accurate would never part with it 👍
Hi James.I’ve just ordered a tbt kit.Did you fit it yourself? If so was it easy?
@@zebozebo9531 my mate done it for me the spring twang no more nick at tbt got videos up on strip down hope this helps 👍
Really appreciate to see my old HW80 in someone possible to enjoy it at the best, it has a TBT kit in , yes I was the second owner, I remember putting up for sale with a bitter taste, yes it was purchased from a gunsmith. Glad is in good hands !!! I what it back now ! And if you’re interested it’s loveing Gamo TS10 . Cheers, enjoy!
Hi mate it’s a beaut for sure not sure I’ll ever sell it . Credit to you and the previous owner 👌
got a new 99s oh how i love these springers no gas no pcp . just point and shoot
DEFINITELY MAKE A TGS AIR RIFLE!
That is something i would love to see. Make it truly classy and beautiful.
I just got my answer on Beeman vs Weirauch.
My Beeman R10 in .20 caliber is the HW85.
Thank you.
Lovely to see my old HW80 on someone that gone take good care of it! Enjoy, and try gamo ts10 pellets, loves them.
Brilliant Video guys really entertaining👍👍
Hi gentlemen and thankyou for your revue of the 80, I enjoyed it and your passion too. I'm sure you are the same, in looking after your belongings, as I am too. I was surprised to see the shoulder strap fixed to your barrel on your 80, especially being previously owned by a gunsmith. However, the gunsmith may have been of the opinion that barrel pivot was made heavy enough to cope with the load and not risk barrel wobble. I understand the break barrel pivot is a male and female, flat head bolt, which can easily be tightened where it to come loose. For example, the meteor, different level I know, was like a rivot and much more difficult to rectify.
Great respect to the gunsmith, I wouldn't attach a shoulder sling there. I carefully fitted sling attachments under the fore end, but far enough away from the cocking lever cut out. I purchased an SA 80 rifle strap, and the section of the strap which goes over the shoulder, cut it out and re joined in seat belt strapping, to disperse the eighties weight. I find that works for me. I'd love to hear your opinions.
Good luck and take care.
Just recently bought a 80k .If you strip yours can you make a video please
I don't think the hw80 was ever intended to replace the hw35 it was more of an alternative to the FWB sport and the Original (diana) mod 45 the beeman shaped version you have there replaced the original hw80mk1 which in my opinion is far better looking than the beeman type stock you have there. So essentially you have an 80mk2. All great guns of course as they have the same action. I would ditch the brass asap and order some original parts and a set of original open sights to make it look as it should and add value. Tbt kits are good. No need for a pcp with such a good self contained hunting rifle.😎
I once owned an HW35 (Lost to a house fire), but have owned an HW80 and the HW95 for quite a few years. A fine tuned HW80 - although heavy - is one heck of an accurate, virtually silent rifle, but while I think the HW95 equals it for accuracy, it definitely beats it in terms of heft when out for a wander. As well as if shooting from standing and kneeling positions. My preference is HW80 if shooting from a hide and the HW95 when on walkabout.
Paired with a decent scope and a lot of practise, you could invest in either rifle and you'll seldom need another, unless heading down the pcp route for the obvious increased rate of fire, but springers remain virtually bomb proof and trouble free.....
Especially if investing at a reasonable price level where overall parts quality genuinely makes a very real difference in relation to consistency, accuracy and retained re-sale value. 🙂
Yep me to an advocate of the HW80. I had a mk1 in 1983 with the angular stock at the front (very collectible now) and regret selling it. I now have a newer mk2 hw80k with tbn kit fitted with the reduced cocking stroke and it runs at 11.44 ftlbs, is silky smooth to cock and fire and recoil is almost non existent. I will never sell it.
My R10 is over 30 years old and in near mint condition. What is considered to be a vintage rifle?
Hey nice to see you two back with the witty banter keep on making em
Mate had one and I had a 77 in the 80's, both 22's, great gun but I think it was blooming heavy.
Yes Beeman retailed HWs in the USA with the Beeman name on them , if I mind right one of the most unusual Beeman's was a straight stocked HW80k , maybe even a Webley Vulcan , can't honestly remember.
Had a few hw ,and the 80 was a beast with a little know how easily double the power ,,,
In the UK with 12 sub ft-lb restriction it has no use to buy a HW80. The HW95 will be a better choice. The 80 is a rifle that should deliver it's full potential. My 80K is in .25cal and a beast.
My hw80 is 1982 .22 and is awesome
Loads of laughs on xmas day, cheers guys just reminds me of all the fantastic bollocks talked about airguns, please keep it up it is a great service to mankind.
Did you buy the limited edition in the end? I’ve just got one brand new after watching your video’ haha in love with it 🙏
Unfortunately I haven’t yet but I will be looking for one in the future
Mine is an Beeman R1 carbine in .20 cal. I try to shoot it at least 15-20 times every day down in the basement. I bought it new about seven years ago, and after a few hundred shots it blew the piston seal because of a manufacturing defect. I sent it to John in PA to have him repair it and detune it. He worked with Vortek to come up with a solution, and then buttoned the piston and some other stuff that he works his magic on. Now the rifle shoots JSB`s at an average of 673 fps, with an ES of 4 fps. I shoot at 13 yards in the basement and it will shoot group after group that are basically the same hole. It is much easier to cock, which is what I wanted the most, and is a pleasure to shoot. Once in a while I use it to shoot a squirrel, and it puts the pellet exactly where needed in the old noggin. There is a good reason that these are considered to be heirloom rifles, my rifle will be a true joy to me for my lifetime, and then on to the next person for their lifetime.
hi ive got a HW80 old one in good condition and want to Px it but a lot of Gun shops dont want to take unless its for peanuts have you got any ideas,
Mk1 s are worth most money. Sell private.
Keep it mate . There's nothing any better out there now . Even an old one in good nik is more accurate than the person using it.
The best spring rifle is the HW80 long barrel.177 tuned ..
Excellent rifle..
But I kept the Theoben Gas ram Tuarnus ..
My choice..
As far as a collectors perspective which is better? Hw35e .22 or a hw80 mk1 .177 w brass trigger? 35 being a 1980 & 80 being a 1981?
Those mk1 stocks with the angular Fore end are quite sought after, made of walnut rather than beech too i think? A well looked after 35E will hold its value well, but as for overall rarity Its the Vixen editions that can fetch a good chunk of money.
Own a HW35 had 45 years now excellent rifle
Excellent video, what BSA scope is that you have on the HW80 ?
Welcome Back Guys......
Guy l used to see out with his 80 in 22 chronographed it using FTTs 5.53
14.66 grain and it was doing 768 fps, was also very accurate.
dr beeman imported a lot af brands under his name ,and the hw 80 is first made as r 1 invented by beeman and herman weihrauch (. they visited each other . in the usa and germany )with the full power spring , later weihrauch make them available outside the usa as the HW 80 a r 1 was first
HW80 (R1) was never intended to replace the HW35. The HW80 was developed in conjunction with Beeman who wanted what he called a "Magnum Air rifle". It was developed in isolation & not to replace any HW model.
To reach the Magnum level it has a bigger piston tube diameter with associated bigger & heavier piston & more swept volume. The HW80 has to be restricted for UK use & is barely ticking over at 12ft lbs.
I prefer my Webley Longbow, lighter, Walther barrel, carbine length & so accurate, trigger very close to the Record. Best BB Webley released & designed in conjunction with Venom. Longbow is better than the HW95 (95 is not that good a rifle TBH, 99S is better if you are lucky enough to get one that doesn't gaul).
Is the HW80 or HW95 the best?
Are you tsg Warrington airguns?
Still waiting for air arms to come out with another break barrel.
My hw80 is long stroke by Mike wade
I am looking to buy a weihrauch hw80 177 caliber air rifle. Please tell me if the rifle is good. Thanks.
Yes it absolutely is.
That's not an 80. That's the new stock 80, nah just not an 80.
The 80 was one of the best rifles ever wish I'd kept mine.
Also had the 35, 77,95,97, 110 and the 100 yes I love the HW rifles.
I have a few, including the 80 & 100....best air rifles!!
Pimping a HW80 with gold plated trigger guard, safety pin and brass screws makes it in my opinion cheap looking air rifle, but of corse it's a question of taste. Not my cup of tea.
I've been seriously considering the Wire Rack 80. Available for $513 ear. I guess buying a US spec XM1 turned me off to PCP. Only good for a single magazine on a fill. Thanks for the latest episode. Missed seeing the dynamic duo.
Thank you Dan 👍
The HW98 is the best break barrel in the world. I use mine for HFT. Great gun!
Yeah, great rifle. Mine is in .22 They are all great rifles. I use the 35 and 80 for hunting, you just get more power out of a 80.
There are a few air rifles that can be pimped with brass. The HW80, and HW77, but others HWs possible. Preferably a custom, or tune kit fitted. Brass being trigger guard, trigger, safety catch, with stock screws optional. Deluxe stock, or better still after market custom stock with some figuring.
Brass pretty yuck on anything else.
Someone put some thought and investment in your example.
Few shotgun gunsmiths know their beans when it comes to air rifles. They just think they do.
I have a Paul Short tuned 80k in 177.
The only one I'll never sell.
First thing you do with a .22 is sling the HW35 spring out and put and put a 177 spring in the power will blow your socks off
Best there is
Great rifles
Any update on this?
Obviously not! Such a shame
Yes it’s still in use scope has been changed yet will make a come back soon
I have 3 pcps bsa scorpion hw 100 and the new r12 bsa... I went to the gun shop he said hey you want a springer to do up. I said hmmm ok then. He said 10 pound. Ok I'll take it... it was a hw35 done it up looks brand new it's a 1974 model no safty catch
Gas is bad on the environment and a springer is more friendly.
Dam,im sad watching this
Another set of ant and deck the rats of U TUBE