Something I see almost nobody making note of, and is a big part of why Bae is so dangerous and appears to be so tanky, is the fact that she's completely invincible during her flip animation (if you have damage numbers turned on, instead of showing damage, it'll show the "MISS" text on any hits that connect while she's flipping).
It cannot be understated how important Full Meal is. I tried it a few times myself, and had really horrible RNG with that item in particular, and despite having all the other items, Bae ends up murdering you without it.
An effect of Anya's skill Slumber is that each second it gains a stack which reduces damage taken by 5%, up to 50%, but also reduces damage done by 7% per stack, up to 70%. The 75% slow it applies would be absolutely busted otherwise.
In addition, her Living Weapon skill is absolutely useless when handling these tanking situations. She's taking more ticks of damage faster than it can ever hope to be restored. @@CrashTestCollin
That luck to never get Knight Milk omg. Also do you think for similar builds would benefit from research coat over glasses? You're taking damage so you don't get full value but there's also periods of 0 growth at all Also if the Golden anvil did drop on you would you have taken Eldritch Horror?
If you are frequently taking damage or are never at full health, research coat generates about enough EXP for 1 level every 3 minutes, or an extra 10 levels by 30 if you get it early. In the absolute best case scenario where you *never* get hit, it could give up to 40 levels in 30 minutes. It effectively gives even fewer levels since boosting your level increases how much EXP you need to pick up to level, basically reducing how many levels you get from dropped EXP by a little bit. Since this build is based around the assumption of constantly being hit, I don't think research coat provides enough value. The real benefit of glasses in patch 0.6 is the added multiplicative weapon attack damage. Glasses probably gave me about as many extra levels as research coat would have, maybe even a little less, but the real value is in the 68 stacks it has by the end giving a 20% multiplicative damage increase to all weapons. Honestly, glasses are a lot more valuable in runs where you're getting 100+ levels into it, but 20% more damage and several extra levels is pretty nice. The Yagoos may despawn after a while if you can hold them back long enough, but being unable to kill the mobs at minute 29 quickly enough means you're more likely to get overrun and bursted down before Blade Form can recharge. Edit: Forgot to answer this question. If the golden anvil falls on you, you don't have to take eldritch horror. You could also close out of the anvil every few seconds for the rest of the run. You could probably also replace bomb with something like BL Book or Cutting Board so you don't have to ruin Spider Cooking in the incredibly rare event the anvil does land on you. I'd lean toward cutting board; having knockback that covers every direction Keris doesn't might be better than having bombs anyway. Non-collab BL Book falls off hard late game because of its hit limit.
if for example i got super drop and it's super horn, would you recommend to throw it or replace it with other healing sources? like full healing or band aid?
Super Horn is definitely good enough to take. I have a personal rule against Supers and Collabs in my runs because I want to make sure they're possible without absurd amounts of luck, but there's no other reason not to take it. There are plenty of Super items that you don't want, but Horn could replace Bandage here. The percentage heal it adds is just so strong. Full meal, I'd keep since it would double Super Horn's healing on top of Slumber's big periodic heal.
How would you adjust this build for Sana? She's got much the same keep-away playstyle that Anya does but Sana doesn't have any in-built healing so I feel like she'd fall off hard without movement. Jingisukan is godly on Sana, but with no reliable golden anvils...
I would definitely add more healing to the build. Plushie would be less valuable since it synergizes best with a lot of consistent healing, and dropping that would make Nurse's Horns more valuable instead. Otherwise, get tanky, keep Spicy Seafood Udon, and spam special when you get into trouble. Her in-built knockback should be very helpful. Milk is nice for more AoE, ATK (on Sana), and knockback effect. Alternatively, you might be able to get away with stacking damage and relying on knockbacks for safety. Early game will be tougher, and some boss fights may be pretty sketchy unless the damage is high enough. Not sure how viable that is, but you never know until you try.
@@CrashTestCollin When I did the no-movement challenge with Sana on stage 1 normal, I noticed that she's kind of the inverse of Anya when it comes to this challenge. Sana has the damage and knockback to actually kill enemies and keep them off her, but she doesn't have Anya's healing for when things get super dicy. They're interesting in contrast to each other like that. Thank you!
I had try to full tank and heal build for korone, surprising it can last longer than I expected. I'm also trying the same built with sora plus beetle but it kinda disappointing. Does beetle doesn't affect her healing damage skill?
I haven't had much success with Beetle Sora either, but I think it should affect the damage from Idol Healing. Can't say for sure though. I think people are using Piki Piki Piman + Spicy Seafood Udon for Sora in general. I haven't tried that in a no-movement run yet, but the added health is nice, and the main weapon and special damage might be more reliable without Jingisukan. With that, it may even be worth limiting weapons, dropping bomb and/or sausage, and hoping for even more HP from levels. Hard to say without trying it myself first though.
I would not. BL Book has a hit limit that does not go away when it levels like with other pre-collab weapons. It falls off very hard late game when there are so many enemies that the books hit their limit and disappear moments after spawning. Sausage has quick and consistent AoE knockback and good damage. Not to mention Anya has a chance of hitting twice with melee weapons (Spider Cooking, Sausage, or Wamy Water, plus some collabs). I'd say Sausage, Cooking, and Axe are core to the build. EN's curse also does absurd damage in a big crowd. You might substitute bomb for something else. Cutting Board and Wamy Water are viable alternatives. Anything with knockback is helpful.
I could see that with her Tantrum ability and some tankiness. I'll have to try that. Anya, like most others I tried on stage 3, has a *real* hard time at 2 minutes. Not with the boss, but with extra thick wave that comes right after.
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Something I see almost nobody making note of, and is a big part of why Bae is so dangerous and appears to be so tanky, is the fact that she's completely invincible during her flip animation (if you have damage numbers turned on, instead of showing damage, it'll show the "MISS" text on any hits that connect while she's flipping).
POV: you fall asleep in sleep over and have to fight while asleep
the true definition of Sleeper build 🤣
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The meet'n'greet booths when they announce hololive at the anime convention.
It cannot be understated how important Full Meal is. I tried it a few times myself, and had really horrible RNG with that item in particular, and despite having all the other items, Bae ends up murdering you without it.
This would have gave me OCD over that anvil that was just a couple pixels off from being looted.
Surprised that you couldn't kill any yagoos. EN curse should've been doing tens of thousands of damage in that crowd.
An effect of Anya's skill Slumber is that each second it gains a stack which reduces damage taken by 5%, up to 50%, but also reduces damage done by 7% per stack, up to 70%. The 75% slow it applies would be absolutely busted otherwise.
In addition, her Living Weapon skill is absolutely useless when handling these tanking situations. She's taking more ticks of damage faster than it can ever hope to be restored. @@CrashTestCollin
@CrashTestCollin does kusogaki shackles negates the damage reduction debuff?
@@WindscaleAx No. It will only affect the negative effects from items (except Halu).
That luck to never get Knight Milk omg.
Also do you think for similar builds would benefit from research coat over glasses? You're taking damage so you don't get full value but there's also periods of 0 growth at all
Also if the Golden anvil did drop on you would you have taken Eldritch Horror?
If you are frequently taking damage or are never at full health, research coat generates about enough EXP for 1 level every 3 minutes, or an extra 10 levels by 30 if you get it early. In the absolute best case scenario where you *never* get hit, it could give up to 40 levels in 30 minutes. It effectively gives even fewer levels since boosting your level increases how much EXP you need to pick up to level, basically reducing how many levels you get from dropped EXP by a little bit. Since this build is based around the assumption of constantly being hit, I don't think research coat provides enough value.
The real benefit of glasses in patch 0.6 is the added multiplicative weapon attack damage. Glasses probably gave me about as many extra levels as research coat would have, maybe even a little less, but the real value is in the 68 stacks it has by the end giving a 20% multiplicative damage increase to all weapons.
Honestly, glasses are a lot more valuable in runs where you're getting 100+ levels into it, but 20% more damage and several extra levels is pretty nice. The Yagoos may despawn after a while if you can hold them back long enough, but being unable to kill the mobs at minute 29 quickly enough means you're more likely to get overrun and bursted down before Blade Form can recharge.
Edit: Forgot to answer this question. If the golden anvil falls on you, you don't have to take eldritch horror. You could also close out of the anvil every few seconds for the rest of the run.
You could probably also replace bomb with something like BL Book or Cutting Board so you don't have to ruin Spider Cooking in the incredibly rare event the anvil does land on you. I'd lean toward cutting board; having knockback that covers every direction Keris doesn't might be better than having bombs anyway. Non-collab BL Book falls off hard late game because of its hit limit.
I'm watching it to the end😂 idk why it's make me calm
Anya wins by doing nothing
Those Stamps came out of nowhere. lol
Anya my luv I love you anya my luv.
34:00 looks like a *mob salad* to me~
surprised you didnt take limiter for extra pickup range at 6:20
GG anya
if for example i got super drop and it's super horn, would you recommend to throw it or replace it with other healing sources? like full healing or band aid?
Super Horn is definitely good enough to take. I have a personal rule against Supers and Collabs in my runs because I want to make sure they're possible without absurd amounts of luck, but there's no other reason not to take it.
There are plenty of Super items that you don't want, but Horn could replace Bandage here. The percentage heal it adds is just so strong. Full meal, I'd keep since it would double Super Horn's healing on top of Slumber's big periodic heal.
How would you adjust this build for Sana? She's got much the same keep-away playstyle that Anya does but Sana doesn't have any in-built healing so I feel like she'd fall off hard without movement. Jingisukan is godly on Sana, but with no reliable golden anvils...
I would definitely add more healing to the build. Plushie would be less valuable since it synergizes best with a lot of consistent healing, and dropping that would make Nurse's Horns more valuable instead.
Otherwise, get tanky, keep Spicy Seafood Udon, and spam special when you get into trouble. Her in-built knockback should be very helpful. Milk is nice for more AoE, ATK (on Sana), and knockback effect.
Alternatively, you might be able to get away with stacking damage and relying on knockbacks for safety. Early game will be tougher, and some boss fights may be pretty sketchy unless the damage is high enough. Not sure how viable that is, but you never know until you try.
@@CrashTestCollin When I did the no-movement challenge with Sana on stage 1 normal, I noticed that she's kind of the inverse of Anya when it comes to this challenge. Sana has the damage and knockback to actually kill enemies and keep them off her, but she doesn't have Anya's healing for when things get super dicy. They're interesting in contrast to each other like that.
Thank you!
I had try to full tank and heal build for korone, surprising it can last longer than I expected. I'm also trying the same built with sora plus beetle but it kinda disappointing. Does beetle doesn't affect her healing damage skill?
I haven't had much success with Beetle Sora either, but I think it should affect the damage from Idol Healing. Can't say for sure though.
I think people are using Piki Piki Piman + Spicy Seafood Udon for Sora in general. I haven't tried that in a no-movement run yet, but the added health is nice, and the main weapon and special damage might be more reliable without Jingisukan. With that, it may even be worth limiting weapons, dropping bomb and/or sausage, and hoping for even more HP from levels. Hard to say without trying it myself first though.
@@CrashTestCollin I probably gonna try without beetle and replace it with healing related items since I didn't see a big change
i clear this achievement with mogumogu lmao
Do you recommend bl book over sausage if you can get it?
I would not. BL Book has a hit limit that does not go away when it levels like with other pre-collab weapons. It falls off very hard late game when there are so many enemies that the books hit their limit and disappear moments after spawning.
Sausage has quick and consistent AoE knockback and good damage. Not to mention Anya has a chance of hitting twice with melee weapons (Spider Cooking, Sausage, or Wamy Water, plus some collabs). I'd say Sausage, Cooking, and Axe are core to the build. EN's curse also does absurd damage in a big crowd.
You might substitute bomb for something else. Cutting Board and Wamy Water are viable alternatives. Anything with knockback is helpful.
Why not get Jingisukan for extra healing, rather than full meal, you'd be able to get Limiter as well then
Because the odds of a golden anvil landing on top on you are next to none, let alone 2 golden anvils and the hammer.
Kobo can do 36 min on stage 3 (hard) without moving
I could see that with her Tantrum ability and some tankiness. I'll have to try that.
Anya, like most others I tried on stage 3, has a *real* hard time at 2 minutes. Not with the boss, but with extra thick wave that comes right after.
alternative title: this game is so easy i can beat it without moving
its an achivement
Depend what you build, it can be easy, it can be hard either.