simple solution. look at a pane of glass through polarized glasses. if it has all the waves its tempered. if not. you are free to drill. I actually contacted them about their tanks and they told me that some are tempered and some are not depending on whats available to build with at the time. so when shopping takes some polarized glasses with you and you can find the right one. just a helpful tip. Great video! keep it up
@@ReefDudes yea i contacted them because i was wanting to drill out a bunch for frag tanks. thats what the rep told me to do. take some glasses because they are random.
@@ReefDudesput a phone behind it with a pure white screen and look at it with polarized sunglasses. Oily looking waves means it’s tempered. Impossible to drill.
Hi Reef Dudes,..Do u have a follow up video to this, what drain modifications did u eventually do for the main drain as well as the emergency. Im looking at this drain box as well.
i was really looking forward to this because i got an eclipse too, but there is so much conflicting info about how to install it. their website, and the manual are conflicting, as is the advice i got from BRS. where are the gaskets supposed to go??? my instinct tells me one on either side of the glass, but that will create gaps between the box and the tank... have you actually successfully installed one of these? maybe i'm asking the wrong guy since you just tried to drill a tempered tank! lol, j/k
Edward Yezekian the gaskets go on the inside of the tank between the glass and over flow box and the second gasket goes between the glass and the external box I literally just installed this yesterday and was having problems with it leaking till I did it this way.
Edward Yezekian I was recording not drilling :P haha follow up video once we replace the panel will go through that haha. Part of the adventure: No sugar coating and keeping it real! :P
Oh man that sucks!!! I was paranoid about that when I drilled my 40 breeder but luckily it wasn’t tempered glass. It will be nice to see how to replace a glass panel though
@@ReefDudes Maybe you should change the title - drilling glass is not entertaining until this - LOL. Plus the shock on your faces as you sit there discuss how to fix it is priceless LOL. I'm so glad that he decided on getting the RIGHT tank.
Went through this. My sticker was hidden upside down and under the trim. So no way to see it unless the trim was pulled off. This was a 75 aqueon brand. After contacting them learned there is a shortage of non tempered glass and they will randomly use tempered in some or all sides. Also I was originally planning on using the eshopps overflow box as well. However there is no way to install these ‘correctly’ on a rimmed tank. Your waterline will always be well below the black trim and look bad. Just a heads up. Good luck guys!!!
Its one of the sleeker overflows so will likely stick with it but good to know! I guess one could just raise the standpipe height and close a gate valve a bit to raise the water level higher.. could work!
ReefDudes one thing that I was going to do was glue a piece of cut acrylic to the inside of the overflow to essentially raise the teeth of the box, raising the water line. Should work. Good luck dude! Interested to see how the floating reef turns out
Nice Video. And a great lesson handled with relative grace, considering how mad I would have gotten. I just finished drilling one of these through a 70 Gallon WaterBox with 1/2 glass. These overflow work awesome once they're installed. I did get Slightly confused on the gaskets though. eShopps need a bit more update guidance on the gaskets, give multiple reviews and articles online which offer conflicting guidance. So far, no leaks
My local Petco stores (and petsuppliesplus) only do their dollar per gallon up to 29, both the 40 breeder and the 55 are 50% off... So the 40breeder comes out to $50+tax
ReefDudes it was drilling, The drillbit was lopsided and I think that’s what happened because it was not tempered and I had water running on the whole time. And plus I’ve drilled other tanks and they came out just fine.
I have one of these overflows on my frag tank and I do not like it. The rear chamber is lower than the front chamber it leaves it sloshing and making lots of noise. If you increase flow to try and quiet it down it runs the rear chamber is full to the point that it almost overflows. The modular marine overflows are a much better design. Their overflows keep the front and rear chamber equal height. They have a complete line of overflows in many different sizes including custom sizes. This is the route I will be going on my new tank.
@@ReefDudes the sound comes from the rear chamber being lower than the front and the top of the bulkhead being almost impossible to get underwater completely. When you finally get it underwater the rear chamber is full to the top and wouldnt take much to overflow it onto the ground. I also noticed I didnt get the fill capacity of my frag tank that I should have. I was never able to run the water line up where it should have been. I've used synergy reef shadow overflows in the past and had similar issues exceptionally was able to get the display level I was supposed to with synergy, but they are expensive imo. It turns out to be a design flaw.
@@ReefDudes I'll take some pics when I get home and pm you. My inside box is mounted all the way to top of glass touching the lip of the top rim of display.
Lol I was looking away from the screen when the tank shattered.. all I heard was pop and as soon as I heard it I said "tragic" for my whole office to hear
Not that easy to replace a pane. Chances are when you won't succeed in removing the shattered one without breaking more. This is just a 40G breeder? Get one from petco when they are on sale.
ReefDudes - Yes it is. They say if you put a laptop behind the glass you can tell if it’s tempered. I tried it and couldn’t tell. When you hear that distinctive POP. Dead giveaway. Plus they shatter in a million pieces. Normal glass won’t break like that.
simple solution. look at a pane of glass through polarized glasses. if it has all the waves its tempered. if not. you are free to drill. I actually contacted them about their tanks and they told me that some are tempered and some are not depending on whats available to build with at the time. so when shopping takes some polarized glasses with you and you can find the right one. just a helpful tip. Great video! keep it up
I knew there was the away time check with polarized glasses but never tried it. Really so it’s Russian roulette what glass they use? That explains it!
@@ReefDudes yea i contacted them because i was wanting to drill out a bunch for frag tanks. thats what the rep told me to do. take some glasses because they are random.
This check doesn’t work all time, but sometimes
@@ReefDudesput a phone behind it with a pure white screen and look at it with polarized sunglasses. Oily looking waves means it’s tempered. Impossible to drill.
Hi Reef Dudes,..Do u have a follow up video to this, what drain modifications did u eventually do for the main drain as well as the emergency. Im looking at this drain box as well.
Not yet but i will. I still have to help him plumb the drains and sump. so far the the display is full of water
@@ReefDudes Okay thanks. I‘ll be following closely. Have learned a lot and trully enjoy your vids. Thanks for responding!
Good luck guy :)
Finally the other reef dude !!
haha!
I don’t think I’d still be smiling after a boo boo like that. Fair play 👍🏻👍🏻
Another smashing blog Deven. 👍🏻
Thanks raven caw :)
Dev you rookie lol just kidding. it is a good video so people see what NOT to do. I am sure you guys will figure it out. can't wait to see the build.
Xclusive Reef in Dylan’s words “just a little speed bump”. Heheh. It will be a cool build!
The brackets are very cool , good luck !
i was really looking forward to this because i got an eclipse too, but there is so much conflicting info about how to install it. their website, and the manual are conflicting, as is the advice i got from BRS. where are the gaskets supposed to go??? my instinct tells me one on either side of the glass, but that will create gaps between the box and the tank... have you actually successfully installed one of these? maybe i'm asking the wrong guy since you just tried to drill a tempered tank! lol, j/k
Edward Yezekian the gaskets go on the inside of the tank between the glass and over flow box and the second gasket goes between the glass and the external box I literally just installed this yesterday and was having problems with it leaking till I did it this way.
Edward Yezekian I was recording not drilling :P haha follow up video once we replace the panel will go through that haha. Part of the adventure: No sugar coating and keeping it real! :P
@@ReefDudes thanks bud keep up the videos! btw, did you ever do anything with that phyto auto-culture/dosing thing you were working on?
@@dulgee Nope, but i will! you just reminded me (and i added it to the white board) Once i finish renos/moving in ill get back to it.
Bummer , It's OK to bond new silicon to the existing ? Bottom corners are the only spots to really consider
This is a very good question that i have been debating too. May be to do some more digging on it.
That was awesome 🤭
Oh man that sucks!!! I was paranoid about that when I drilled my 40 breeder but luckily it wasn’t tempered glass. It will be nice to see how to replace a glass panel though
Opportunity for new experiences and content :)
ReefDudes sure is. Looking forward to the video 👍🏼
Ahhhhh - thanks mate ;)
Happy to entertain lol
@@ReefDudes Maybe you should change the title - drilling glass is not entertaining until this - LOL. Plus the shock on your faces as you sit there discuss how to fix it is priceless LOL. I'm so glad that he decided on getting the RIGHT tank.
@@sunnygoold9449 hahaah me too! it turned out 100x better because of this!
Love the channel! I was dying laughing though. Gets me everytime.
Gotta have a little fun with. :)
Went through this. My sticker was hidden upside down and under the trim. So no way to see it unless the trim was pulled off. This was a 75 aqueon brand. After contacting them learned there is a shortage of non tempered glass and they will randomly use tempered in some or all sides. Also I was originally planning on using the eshopps overflow box as well. However there is no way to install these ‘correctly’ on a rimmed tank. Your waterline will always be well below the black trim and look bad. Just a heads up. Good luck guys!!!
Its one of the sleeker overflows so will likely stick with it but good to know! I guess one could just raise the standpipe height and close a gate valve a bit to raise the water level higher.. could work!
ReefDudes one thing that I was going to do was glue a piece of cut acrylic to the inside of the overflow to essentially raise the teeth of the box, raising the water line. Should work. Good luck dude! Interested to see how the floating reef turns out
@@cowabungareefer7094 That would work too! just make sure there is still extra capacity above the water line just incase! :)
I audibly said NOOOOOOOOO when it cracked!! Ugh, that sucks!!
Hahaha us too!
Nice Video. And a great lesson handled with relative grace, considering how mad I would have gotten.
I just finished drilling one of these through a 70 Gallon WaterBox with 1/2 glass. These overflow work awesome once they're installed.
I did get Slightly confused on the gaskets though. eShopps need a bit more update guidance on the gaskets, give multiple reviews and articles online which offer conflicting guidance. So far, no leaks
So far so good! Good to hear!
I love how in the out takes they are testing the supports with the tank right under it
haha, thats the future sump for behind the wall :P
Is that a 40 breeder? $40 at petco, $1 a gallon sale every month,
75 Gallon i believe. Sadly we dont have those killer sales in cadada.
My local Petco stores (and petsuppliesplus) only do their dollar per gallon up to 29, both the 40 breeder and the 55 are 50% off... So the 40breeder comes out to $50+tax
@@nicanthrope1177 are those tanks drillable?
@@mogtrader8 mine was drilled by my brother, I don't know what drill kit he used
Also found out the hard way that my topfin tank was tempered
I agree the info out there is not solid for these tanks
I have petsmart and petcos around me, but are ALL sides tempered? How can I tell?
Damn but I had to laugh with how you guys play it off. Excited to see this build
All part of the experience! Once the tank is up and shining it will have a colorful story! :)
If it makes you feel any better I shattered a 135 the other day
Oh dang! drilling or something else?
ReefDudes it was drilling, The drillbit was lopsided and I think that’s what happened because it was not tempered and I had water running on the whole time. And plus I’ve drilled other tanks and they came out just fine.
@@sebastianmoreno1568 Or pushing to hard maybe? I have drilled glass too before (non tempered) and it went well too! All part of the adventure!
ReefDudes indeed it is, only speed bumps not walls but keep the videos coming love to watch them!!
Lol, Thank you!
Your answer is alot better than what I would have said when she asked what the water is for. my immature ass would have said "ask in a few more years
Knew that was going to happen. Same thing happen to me on my 29 gallon Top Fin.
OH dang! that sucks!
Tempered😳😂😂😂🍻
I'm pretty sure it was the clamps
I have one of these overflows on my frag tank and I do not like it. The rear chamber is lower than the front chamber it leaves it sloshing and making lots of noise. If you increase flow to try and quiet it down it runs the rear chamber is full to the point that it almost overflows. The modular marine overflows are a much better design. Their overflows keep the front and rear chamber equal height. They have a complete line of overflows in many different sizes including custom sizes. This is the route I will be going on my new tank.
Cant you just add a longer stand pipe to quiet it down?
@@ReefDudes the sound comes from the rear chamber being lower than the front and the top of the bulkhead being almost impossible to get underwater completely. When you finally get it underwater the rear chamber is full to the top and wouldnt take much to overflow it onto the ground. I also noticed I didnt get the fill capacity of my frag tank that I should have. I was never able to run the water line up where it should have been. I've used synergy reef shadow overflows in the past and had similar issues exceptionally was able to get the display level I was supposed to with synergy, but they are expensive imo. It turns out to be a design flaw.
@@justforkiks29 How close to the top do you have your water line? did you mount the inside overflow box flush with the top of the glass?
@@ReefDudes I'll take some pics when I get home and pm you. My inside box is mounted all the way to top of glass touching the lip of the top rim of display.
You didn’t check before hand? Really?
Daetok he said he was pretty sure it wasn’t...
Lol I was looking away from the screen when the tank shattered.. all I heard was pop and as soon as I heard it I said "tragic" for my whole office to hear
haha love it!
Lol I did the same thing thought it was my tank 😂 I have never ran faster in my whole life.
@@sovereignviper90 hahah Its a learning /education experience!
Polarized glasses are your friend when trying to determine if it's tempered or not.
How can you tell? Can you elaborate.
pop !!! !!! not good
cant wait to see the rest of the build :)
Not that easy to replace a pane. Chances are when you won't succeed in removing the shattered one without breaking more. This is just a 40G breeder? Get one from petco when they are on sale.
Let the glass shop drill the holes !
Never stop drilling until the drill bit goes threw
Good to know!
Happen to me 😢 stupids Aqueon aquariums tempered glass
Definitely tempered. Made Great video though. ✅💯🎈
Thanks! And a good learning experience!
ReefDudes - Yes it is. They say if you put a laptop behind the glass you can tell if it’s tempered. I tried it and couldn’t tell. When you hear that distinctive POP. Dead giveaway. Plus they shatter in a million pieces. Normal glass won’t break like that.
My prediction for Episode 2....
The tank support fails
I hope I’m wrong.
me to! it held both of us no prob.. may have to find another guy or two to climb up there and test it out
ReefDudes I would constantly be worrying about it... Why not just put the tank in the wall?
oakville09 there is a stairs in the other side
Unlucky mate 😢
Yep, happens! learning experience!
Ouch
That sucks..... 😬
Man that sucks.
Yep. Sure did! It was weird how it happens a few seconds after
Dooohhhh...