Remembering John McCain's defense of Barack Obama during 2008 campaign
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- One of John McCain's most memorable moments happened during the closing weeks of the 2008 presidential campaign. He defended his opponent, Barack Obama. CBS News national correspondent Lee Cowan explains.
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Back when America had two classy men running to become president, either man as a worthy winner!
Amount of truth in this comment. I wish. I don’t like trump or joe but joes gonna win. I gotta respect joe cause he’s my president now and I’ll give him a shot
If only McCain hadn't picked Palin and had picked Lieberman instead, I probably would have voted for him.
Seriously how did Republicans go from this to Maga...
@@SaintBison209 the people did, not the Republican Party
From, a Democrat😌😂
sad part is that you can see the voters that would become retrumplicans
I am a Democrat but if I were ever to vote for a Republican, John McCain was my man. He was a politician with conviction, a very good man indeed. Rest in peace, my friend.
Palin was a hard pill to swallow though...
Or mitt Romney after we saw how dedicated he is to his oath, I was really impressed by that
David de Toqueville
Same here. If only he had selected a running mate he really wanted (someone like Independent Lieberman) versus someone pushed on him by his campaign to look good, Palin. Look at her family to see how she really is away from the podium, nutty.
U shouldve elected him while y’all had the chance. Now look where not voting for moderate republicans has gotten y’all lol.
Yeah, one thing I'll give John is even when he was wrong it wasn't because he had a secret against agenda or whatever. It's because he actually believes in what he's saying and what he stands for. If you could convince him wrong, he would then Agree.
'We can disagree while still being respectful to each other'
-Obama
McCain is a true American hero.
McCain was probably thinking...WTF, this is my voter base?
FoneArc oh my God I was thinking the same thing 😂😂😂
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It is surely Donald Trump's voter base.🤔
@@epdlp4506 and that's how trump won. fully taking advantage of those voters
@@RandomAwesomeism he might have been Republican but he was not like Trump.
wouldn't have minded if McCain was president, seems like a genuinely nice guy
agree ..
Ok trunks!
He was man. Which is why I voted for him., and I'm not way a republican party member. Just a decent dude. Larry Fitzgerald echoed that during his eulogy. I wish he was president.
His being nice did' t help and he lost. American people didn't buy it what he presented. He gave up to his opponent.
@@theophilussparks5839 I mean Obama was too, even though i disagreed with McCain this felt like a win-win scenario.
This is a TRUE American and everyone should strive to be like no matter the political view. Integrity, decency, and courage!
He betrayed the people he represented and who put him in office by voting in favor of the disaster that is Obamacare. He’s a traitor, who falsely believed the care standard he received in his final days would match the care others would under the new healthcare fallacy he passed.
@@lukepoplawski3230 I wouldn’t say obamacare is a disaster ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@PB-rz8lz Premiums are up on average 25%, and while some Americans received subsidies of this premium (if they make below or at % of poverty level) the majority of the burden has been placed on middle American AGAIN to fund it. Companies have had to reduce the amount of people they employ as a result of being unable to afford the coverage they’re required to provide. You can be fined for choosing NOT to participate. And even though more Americans are covered the healthcare infrastructure has not changed and only further drowned an already overloaded delivery, extending wait times just as it happened in Canada. It sounds like a disaster to me.
@@lukepoplawski3230 European here. I just dont get why Health care is such a problem in the US. We dont have long waiting times either. In case of an emergency I can just call the ambulance without any cost. I can go to any specialist I want without additional payment, most treatments and drugs are covered. I‘m actually proud to pay my share every month so that this is possible for ALL citiziens. Caring for other people is not communism.
@@lukepoplawski3230 What type of human have you become, take a look at a mirror. Here in Europe we have no problem at all with healthcare. It's not communism, it works, and saves lifes.
McCain was a statesman and a professional, Trump is anything but that.
I wish he would still be with us to just see this day
He is the only Republican ill ever honor best ever saved me im a Viet Vet and now Im done with UA-cam politics Biden Harris Won my job is done see you in 2024 god willing
He's not an Arab, he's a good man.
@@Competitive_Antagonist John a brave man, the only republican, ill ever honor not even saint Reagan, came close to this man, ill never forget the thumb down he broke the republicans.
Thats why trump won and he didnt against
i find it hard to believe that people still call mccain “not American” when he’s done more than most of us for this country
thats Republicans there brains are fried ate to much Gator and gator eats humans that why there brains are scrambled or mad cow
I m french and I know about his injuries.. Those people lack an education.
Though he didn’t win the election, McCain was a GREAT AMERICAN
Let alone be a pow
@@beedee9534 iio
John McCain: I didn't like his politics but what an incredible human being he was!
I’d rather have him as president than Donald Dump. He is a man of value and class. He wasn’t afraid to speak up and defend his opponent in front of his own supporters, which takes guts. If only we had more senators like him in congress.
ELPJM09 yeah, and send out troops to go die in useless wars for oil? No thank you.
Beneath Remains Your argument makes no sense. Obama never sent Troops to fight for oil.
@@ELPJM09 McCain did and worked with Bush on it.
Yeah John McCain was evil Trump the best president in a long time
John McCain is not racist. But he is a shameless war hawk.
This man had more class in his pinky toe than Trump has in his whole body.
More than a single hair. Pinky toe is too much class
Very true 💯
McCain was great. I am proud to say I voted him for president. I am also proud to say I NEVER voted for Trump.
@@Em3ga thank you so much! The republicans who are trump supporters took the hope I had for the republican people but you (most) are fine people!
Trump won, Biden lost.
This says more about Americans than Trump or Biden...
I come back here every few weeks to regain my hope.
Listen to Mallory McMorrow's 4:43 minute speech from April 20, 2022 !
Really? I come back every few months to be sad at how far we’ve fallen
We’re going to have to watch this video then…
I didn't agree with his politics, but he was a great man, and I respect him.
Thank you for your service, Mr. McCain.
@@blakeandotherstuff yea Obama said in his speech at McCain funeral they would sometimes get together and just talk about life
What do you mean by his "politics" ???
What were his politics? Lol. Not far right enough for yours?
@@bherber well considering I'm a progressive Democrat, probably not. But go off lil bro
Mccain is the only republican that had the balls to stand up to Trump.
yup the same one who dump first and overweight wife for a better looking and rich wife ,so now they all love him wow,.all those in politics are the same ,image ,image image.
He is not a good human being, in fact, an immoral man.
he had no balls then, he has no balls now. the man is GONE and DEAD.
He's not a republican. He's a RINO.
Romney jut did it too a few weeks ago
"we can disagree while still being respectful to each other"
You get that Trump,that how politics should be conducted in America
Right, but this was McCain doing damage control for his own campaign strategy of asking "who is the REAL Barack Obama," which used his name's resemblance to Osama bin Laden to cast aspersion and suspicion. It was *really* about Obama's race; calling him "Arab" (also, what's wrong with being Arab?!) became code for the n-word.
That crowd left McCain and went with Trump because he feeds their craziness. They are the hogs to his slop.
Never agreed much with McCain, but always respected this hero.
The best
I agree with that statement 100%
And this is precisely the reason centre-rights are shifting full right. Who is it?
An eloquent democrat who shoots hoops vs a Vietnam war veteran who refused early release as a 'favor'?
A person who spoke about the deficit and russian problems in 2012 vs an eloquent man who shoots hoops?
come 2016, and those center-rights have forced to seek refuge in the right wing - A draft dodger becomes a Winner|
Politics I tell you..
John McCain was absolutely a hero and a man thoroughly deserving of anyone's respect no matter how much you might have diaagreed with his political views..
I agree entirely with this statement.
Bipartisan politics died with John McCain. It's sad.
@Jim Jim Both of you don't know what you are talking about
Fati my generation aims to bring it back
E.V. Gaming more or less. I’m kind of in between the two, but yeah.
Partisan is tribalism by a different name. As long as their are people who seek belonging in the world, as there should be, tribalism will never die. In spite of that, as John McCain is trying to do in this clip, we should continue to push forward with good and truth on the path.
That's got to be one of the SADDEST Days in American Politics....is when John McCain Passed on into GLORY! Great for him....Sad for us.....Each Party needs someone in the Party to hold them Accountable for their Anti Human behavior and actions !!!
John McCain was a great example to many others.
A man of honour.
This may have cost him the election but he retained his dignity. Who wants to win by dissing the opposition? Oh, hang on, Trump does.
Trump won because of that. People are dumb and easy to manipulate when they are filled with fear and hate and ignorance.
@@Dracogame joe biden said "if you don't vote for me you ain't black" have a good day genius boy who thinks he isn't manipulated
This didn’t cost him really. Obama was destined to win it
@@ressimayouz3620 it’s really how American politics work. You win by dissing your opponent. Hate the system, not the players
Thats literally how our system works. if you look at both partys campaign ads and such. its like 90% telling them why to not vote for the other and 5% dissing and 5% on why they should vote for him.
"Getting booed at your own town-hall can't be easy, but John McCain ploughed ahead..."
I gained a tremendous amount of respect for him during that campaign. Such class
He is one of the finest republicans, if not, the most precious politician in the Republican party. I miss him dearly
@@lorikaisirfogle2903 Agree my friend.
Trump not mccain... Trump has the very republican spirit!!!
@@lorikaisirfogle2903 Nahhhh, more Trump!
@@albertoartuso80 🤡
John McCain : The Last Republican
Every single one of these people were waiting for a "Donald Trump." I'm sure McCain was having a hard time swallowing that this was his voter base.
Yes! And trump would not hv corrected them
@@shylae2000 He would've agreed with them
@@crunchy_crop (he being trump) he literally spread the rumor in the first place lmao
@@tulip5210 People seem to forget Trump actually was the first person to tweet about Obama not having a birth certificate and being Kenyan. Im completely serious, go look it up for yourself. Insane to think he was ever supported in the first place, but look at the voters here lmfao.
Trump also refers to Obama as "Barack Hussein" 🙄 you'd have to be blind, deaf, and stupid to not see his race baiting.
I was never happier with John McCain than I was in that moment. He was true to his convictions. He was so decent.
If America got more John McCain, America won't be so Divided.
Probably yes...
100% America wasn't ready for a black president
Yeah I get watery eyed every time I replay this.
If America got more John McCain, America would be whole democratic.
@@AW-hg2ut you are wrong.
“Country first;” one of your mottos. Here, you gave us another example of how you lived the creed you professed. Rest in peace & power, Senator John McCain, III 🙌🏽 🇺🇸
I don't live in the US but this gentleman made a huge impact. His kindness and fairness shone through this town hall.
What a beautiful soul
... Real !!! ... So true ...
I love that you leftists define a 'good person' by how much they agree with you.
It is kind of Orwellian honestly.
@@brentfox6540 Yet another typical leftist tactic.
You accuse of others of exactly what you are.
Just as the Labour party declared everybody else racist, whilst it was the only party being investigated for racism, you are basically projecting, by calling me a snowflake.
@@ayushs.9473 Exactly. The point of the original comment was that trump feeds these crazy conspiracies... He even was a major proponent of the birther conspiracy... While McCain stopped them in their tracks
McCain responded like a man with honor and integrity should.
What a repected man! I am from Brazil watching this for the fourth time and still give me goosebumps.
Intelligent, compassionate, leadership, patriotism, humane something dump trump lacks
EVERYTHING chump lacks !
At least from this day onwards you can expect a sense of normalcy for the next 4 years
👍
Say it again
Oh yea.....like Hillary and Biden are just SO full of compassion, leadership and patriotism! Pu-leeeease!
John McCain was a true American. He severed his country with dignity and integrity and he did not falter in the face of torture or in his bid for presidency. We need more John McCains in this country.
What part of the country did he sever ? I hope we still have all our fingers and toes !
@@MarkHogan994 lol I saw that as well.
Trump is better!!
Yes,we need more John McCains in this planet
after seeing this I moved to tears...once he visited my country Sri Lanka too....a big salute to a real gentleman...Rosh Fernando
John McCain⭐️🇺🇸, a decent honest man. Not everyday you see a politician defend the opponent. RIP
Im not a republican but ill never forget him thumb down
Remember the time when the republicans had a decent Nominee 🤦🤦🤦
Trump 2020
You mean a loser?
@@drakebudasz8837 are you willing to scarifice morals for winning
Shamrock McCain didn’t have morals either
@@drakebudasz8837 on that point you are definitely wrong
What a generous and brave soul.
Big respect from the Netherlands.
I disagreed with many of his political convictions, wholeheartedly so. But McCain was a good and decent man.
Nothing more to say.
I know. I don’t agree with his policies, but damn he’s a decent man. He knew that even though they were debating against each other, it was important to still respect one another.
Same here i disagreed with him on some policies but he was a good man and an honorable man, and i had nothing but respect for him. And honestly if he had been running against anyone other than Obama i would have definitely voted for him. I wish he could have been president i think he would have done an excellent job and just maybe Republicans and Democrats could have worked together and actually gotten things done together i hope we can get there one day for the good of all in our country.
From germany: R.I.P. John McCain. There is a gigantic lack of people like you in this world.
Same from the UK. McCain might not have been perfect, but we need people like him more than ever. RIP to a good man.
Back when campaigning maintained a level of sophistication and maturity. I miss it
Look at the respect, Obama didnt shake with one hand but with both hands. It shows you how much he respected him. RIP John the Irreplaceable. Thanks Pres. Obama
Thats how we shake our elders in Africa with two hands...
@Lisa Kerekes i think can go both ways, but knowing Obama character is more about respect your elders
It's a sign of respect in Africa. That's how we shake elders and seniors.
Really? During a debate with Obama he cold shouldered him, that is the real John McCain. Bipartisan? YOU MEAN HE SOLD HIS PARTY DOWN THE RIVER on big important bills. Stabbed Republicans in the back on repealing Obama are.
Rest in Peace. A true American hero
He respected his opponent. Not like Donald Trump who would lead a crowd into booing his opponent.
ok what made him a hero? Bombing innocent civilians? come on, you can do better, surely. He wasnt so smart either. His campaign failed, he missed the fact that Russia armed the Vietcong with missiles, he was plain dumb, a born loser. and the indigenous Americans hate him more then cockroaches
Juju Rellama being a prisoner at war for five and a half years.... he could have negotiated his way out earlier, but he made sure he was the last one.
Juju Rellama that’s what true hero’s do
Last of a breed of man that seems to be long gone. If only we could make America great again as John McCain tried. Rest in peace Captain John McCain
Mr. McCain is a man of honor. He will always be 10 times the man Trump will ever be.
wrong, trump has no honor(0) so mccain's honor, divided by trumps(0)= undefined
More like 69420 times more
@@kaustavkapur5532 Trump kept his promises and gave us jobs, peace, and prosperity. Which is more than can be said of most politicians. Character references mean nothing to me anymore.
Mccain pure evil just like obama and bush and clinton and joe biden and rest of them 🤪
@@bigverybadtomtrump gave us jobs? That's why he hold the record of the most jobs lost while President
McCain was a war hero and a patriot: this clip is one of the finest moments of integrity in a politician and was a hallmark of the man's character.
That was a man of integrity. Rest In Peace!
so sad that this kind of humility won’t get you very far anymore
Tell me about it. I'm living proof of it!
@@retroguy9494 oof
@@retroguy9494 hope things get better!
@@lostparadisegaming2858 Perhaps when the millennials take over after my generation has retired!
Rest in Peace John McCain, you were a great man.
Class. Can’t buy class. Mr. McCain you are a first class gentleman. Rest in peace sir.
This is the moment i will always remember, when a gentleman stands up for an opponent, and the stakes were extremely high. John McCain my hero.I'm not republican.
that is what made him a loser. standing up for his opponent, a joke
Its reigt mand .Mac Cain vas a big HERO a Really . 🇺🇸
I’ll never forget John McCain’s concession speech. He was a man of integrity and dignity in the face of such a public defeat. A great soul! And a gracious example to us all of how to remain true while in the very process of “losing.” He was so rare, and he is missed.
perfected the art of losing
I get teared up when I watching this, John McCain could easily ride the hatred of his followers easily get on the same level and agree to all that none sense in order to push his own agenda. HE instead chose Honor. He got Booed in his own town hall and he shrug it off and he stuck to the truth. What a man!!! It is a huge loss for all of us that he is no longer with us.
No despicable name calling. Imagine that. We all know what Trumps response would of been.
Trump would have turned it into some racist chant.
As a non American, I didn't know much abt John McCain, but if this is a sample of his conduct, I can understand the respect and affection he still commands.
A Gentleman. A man of honour and dignity. RIP .
”Getting booed at your own town hall”?
This man was a prisoner of war in Nam after being shot outta the sky and almost killed. He’s not threatened by these losers.
I'm not gonna call them losers but I agree. Let's honor McCain by not insulting our political adversaries and fellow Americans.
He was a man, and a gentleman. Not what the Republicans have today.
💯
I think Mitt Romney is pretty class act.
@@jondoesdesign2558 Lol, yeah ok. The guy who tried to cancel Big Bird? Please..
@James Bissett
I'm dying to know why any of this is "good" about Mitt Romney.. Please enlighten me:
1. Vote for me because I was a businessman, even though I won’t tell you anything about how I ran my business.
2. My biggest accomplishment as governor was creating socialized medicine for all of my constituents, which is a very bad thing.
3. Obamacare is the worst piece of public policy in the history of the world and I will abolish it, even though it is an exact replica of my healthcare plan in Massachusetts.
4. Big government socialized medicine is the worst thing in the world. And that’s why I will spend $750 billion MORE on Medicare, a form of socialized medicine, than Barack Obama would.
5. Barrack Obama is sending all of Chrysler’s auto manufacturing to China because he…believes in big government and pandering to US unions.
6. Obama is weak on defense and terrorists, which is why Obama killed Bin Laden and I opposed going after Bin Laden.
7. Obama is a dangerous radical which is why he spends way too much time…playing golf.
8. Obama is a European socialist and that’s bad, which is why I want to impose all of the economic policies of austerity used by…European socialists.
9. I want to cut all top marginal tax rates by 20%, including for the very wealthy, which, of course, will not lower taxes for the wealthy.
10. I will reduce the deficit and balance the budget by maintaining all popular social programs and tax deductions like the mortgage interest deduction AND by increasing defense spending by $2 trillion spending.
That's why he dumped his crippled wife for another younger woman. His reputation is as fake as Bill Cosby's.
Sometimes I have to come back to this moment just to feel hopeful again.
Fact of the matter is, he was too good for those people.
Even in Rivalry this is how true leader maintains others dignity & respect. Appreciation for John Mccain.
Since that day, i loved and respected him. May his decent soul continue to rest in perfect peace.
I remember having more respect for him than any politician I'd ever seen after this. And I'm a lifelong democrat. We need a few hundred more like him.
I miss the time when Republicans and Democrats could disagree, bicker, and oppose, but still respect each other in the end.
Reagan said about Mondale "I am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience against him" during a debate. Such good natured comments. Although I didn't vote for Reagan, I appreciated his demeanor. None of the vitriol of today.
@Jason Reid Trump doesn't deserve an ounce of respect and neither do the morons that have surrounded him and protect his every idiotic move.
that ended in 2012.
John was a true Patriot,may his soul continue Resting in peace
Good bye hero. R.I.P
I don't know if it would ever be one like you again. You may not have been perfect, but you was great man. Thanks.
A decent man.
This is why this man holds my respect. Served our country, our freedom, our future to come. Thank you.
He was a class act. Like Obama
@Kev Cthulu Want to go down that road. Most everyone post WWII was.
@Kev Cthulu And Trump murdered countless amounts of kids of immigrants. Want me to continue?
@Kev Cthulu Wow, so you conveniently have no idea about the kids in cages dying? Seems you only see what you want to see.
@Kev VanDe And Trump is responsible for many of the deaths (I won't say all because the governors that refused to take the pandemic seriously are at fault as well) for Covid-19 due to his refusal to act during February, and his constant refusal to take it seriously and take responsibility causes people to not take it seriously which will only worsen the pandemic as time goes on. I recall a briefing where doctor after doctor said that the number of cases would go up as time went on without action taken. Then Trump walks onstage and says that the 15 cases will go down to 0 very quickly, well that hasn't happened, America has more cases than any other country in the world, including China and this virus had killed more people than Vietnam.
He is a decent family man. Respect to the late Senator Mc Cain. R. I. P
A truly iconic moment.
John McCain was a great great man. I wish more politicians were like him.
A total class act unlike the clown currently in the White House.
Remember when McCain joked at a fundraiser: “Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father." Yeah......class act.........
@@47imagine Do you know why Megan McCain is so fat? Rosie O'Donnel is her mother!
Milhouse total class *act* is right
That’s all politicians do is act, and then not do what they say they would do.
Ugh Obama is gone. Have you been in a coma for 3 years?
Fact checked, not true.
Very decent and respectful guy. Man I miss him.
My God, what a class act Senator John McCain was.
Trump would have made stupid faces and encourage her with them.
"They say he's an arab. I don't know, I don't know. Maybe he is maybe he isn't. We'll see."
Two class acts who truly cared for this great country and had tremendous respect for each other. Absolutely incredible.
He's an Arab??? Jesus, there is no hope for the USA with thinking like that.
Just try using Mohammad's name as you just used Jesus' name in some majority muslim countries...
They'd probably just say Allah but it would be about the same in context. Maybe someone old would raise an eyebrow
@@nielknox Actually no, that use is not an insult just an expression. Here we take offense only when it was intended to be offensive.
@@nielknox substitute that with Allah because that means God in arabic or u can jusst say God, because mohammed peace and blessings of God be upon him is our prophet and not a God
so there won't be any problem if u substitute God with jesus peace and blessings of God e upon him
i understand that sort of expression may not allowed for u but it's perfectly okay for us , if not encouraged, to mention God's name while exclaiming or sth
hope u get the difference
peace,
@@grantadams719 ure right in the first part but nobody would raise their eyebrows as it is perfectly ok to mention God's name when u are surprised, sad, mad or sth
God I miss the decent republicans.
There are still some, their cowardice just made them succumb to the Orange.
That’s why they lost. Add on to the fact that we all miss the decent _Democrats_
Some of us are still around. Never supported and never will support Trump.
@SteelersPenguinsPirates That's because we're in a Bernie or bust moment.
They are long gone of the likes of H.W, Ford, etc.
This is how a man who really loves America conducts himself. John McCain is the greatest president America never had.
If only more American candidates can be like this🤦♂️
McCain was Terrible...
Class is something your born with rip sen. John MCcain
Traitors have NO CLASS! Like You..LIBTARD!
no, class is something you develop
michael murratti you spelled *war hero wrong
John McCain deserves a lot of respect for who he was God bless him
THATS A HERO WHITH GOLD HEART.....R.I.P JOHN.
I am not even American but I feel proud as a human listening to him. This was great on so many levels...
He’s our hero. May his soul rest in price.he made history. ❤️
Can we get a statue in Washington D.C. to this Man? A reminder of what being a man is all about.
John was a real one. RIP
Truly a good man. Sticking up for what’s right no matter what.
McCain had great character. Much respect.
At his concession speech he also stifled Sarah Palin who wanted to make digs.
God blessed mr McCain, great man
This is why I love and admire this man John McCain 💙
If you looked up Statesman in the dictionary, this legend's picture should be right above it.
Amen 🙏 American first political party second. He was a great man.
I love how McCain spoke up for president Obama i fell in love with McCain from that day until he pass, i miss him he would be on the side of the constitution, he was a Honorable man.. rest in peace mr McCain.
I remember at his concession speech in front of his supporters, he said something about supporting Obama, and the crowd booed. McCain stopped them and continued congratulating Obama. He was an honorable man.
Being compassionate and respectful to each other are what Great America is all about.
Amazing man, one of the most amazing in American History.
The last real person in politics...R.I.P...how much we've changed in 8 years
12*
@Kev Cthulu We wouldn't have recovered from the financial crisis if McCain won.
Oh God we miss this man. God Bless you John McCain. Thank you for leaving us an example to bring us back together in the future.
I'm not American, I don't know the intricacies of their politics, but what a decent fellow. Principled and courageous. RIP.
This is such a praiseworthy thing to do. His own town hall was boo-ing him and he stuck up for his opponent's morality.
This man have gold heart 💛 ❤ ♥
He seemed like he had integrity and wouldn't have been a bad president if dems lost