This was exactly the issue. BMW wanted €5.500 for this fix but I ended up paying 700 at a local mechanic after asking to fix exactly this. Big thanks for this video!!
The filter screen bursting off is actually a consequence of the fault, what happens is the central valve fails and instead of only the plunger moving the full assembly inside the valve moves witch eventually burst the filter screen. If you catch them before they burst you’ll find if you press one finger on the screen then press the plunger you’ll feel the full assembly inside moving witch obviously doesn’t let oil flow correctly into the adjusters/sprockets. I’ve changed loads of these very very common.
Thats really useful to know because I had no idea why this happens. The power of the internet 👍I will try that next time and this will be a good test. Thanks for the info 🙂
@richarddriscoll5201 With a locking kit yes however the injectors are difficult for a diyer. Please see this video and you will understand. HOW TO REMOVE A B48 INJECTOR ua-cam.com/video/IJWnY_CtUTQ/v-deo.html
Great video thank you. Out of interest, what are the very first mechanical symptoms (prior to appearance of the fault code) you’d expect to hear at tick over cold and hot. The reason I ask is because we have a March 2023 1.5 Countryman Automatic with 9500 on the clock and the engine harmonics are similar to that of a diesel, it appears to ‘throb’ (around the gearbox end) rather than idle smoothly. I really thought nothing of this at purchase private secondhand, because it is three not four cylinder as with our previous 2019 Cooper S Sport automatic, which was like a sowing machine. Although the noise has not increased, the more I hear it the more concerned I become? Your thoughts and advice would be welcome please. Thank you.
Hi, very informative video. Thank you. My Mini Cooper with the B46 engine has rough idle, surging and stuttering under load (e.g. driving up a hill) and I've confirmed plugs, coils, throttle and Lambda sensors appear good. No codes, just periodic drivability issues as described above. Based on my research these symptoms could also be caused by a bad vanos electric solenoid. My understanding is that the solenoid is known to fail. But how can I tell a bad solenoid from the screen problem without throwing parts at the issue. I also don't want to have to pull the engine to check the screen. I assume that the oscilloscope trace would not necessarily distinguish between a bad solenoid and a sheared Vanos gear? Very much appreciate your input as the drivability is driving me crazy and I certainly don't want to wait for a more serious failure to occur. Thank you
Thanks Tony. Did you watch my latest video? It covers the repair from start to finish. Part 2 of that is in production where I show how to do the injector installation too. Check it out.
Great vid again. A friend has replaced the exhaust solenoid valve on one, but now comes up with ex cam solenoid installation error. Wonder if the screen and circlip has failed on that.
Hey there! After replacing spark plugs, coils and injectors i came across this solenoit variation between target vs actual position and i was able to replace the two eletrical vanos actuators on my Mini Cooper S F56 B48 engine. I noticed some slight improvements but the variatons still persist, specially at constant light acceleration. Would you say that if i was able to remove the eletrical actuator i could also try and extract/replace the VANOS central valve aswell? If yes what would be the ttool?
Can you tell me as a customer what is the cost to repair that problem? My bmw has come up with that fault code, I was told it’s a 20 minute fix by one garage and then another garage told me it’s a complete engine strip down. But seen this video and it has enlightened me. Thanks
Hello Bryan it depends. A transverse mounted B series takes around 4 hours including re-aligning the injectors as they have a special tightening procedure (see my video about that) The rear wheel drive variants unfortunately require engine removal as you cant do anything as the chain is at the back. 20 minute fix refers perhaps to a new solenoid but that wont achieve anything since the solenoid only controls the bit thats faulty inside. Its a 2 day job minimum for those engines
Thank you. I believe mine is rear wheel drive, so I’m looking at a hefty repair bill. Might just buy an Old Ford fiesta had one for 10 years and only had to replace the tyres. 😃Thank you for you honest answer.
@@allmech_BMW_fault_finding Great video! Thanks! I have a B38 F20 rear wheel. Would we get the same error codes if really the solenoid is dirty or faulty? Do you have a video showing how to replace the solenoid on the B38 rear wheel?
@@allmech_BMW_fault_finding Hi! How many hours require an engine removal for fix this problem on a rear whell drive? Unfortunately I have this problem in my F20 B38... How many money? Thanks a lot for the information!
I had an oil leak and I assumed it was coming from the rocker cover, I continued to drive the car as I needed to and was waiting for my garage to have time to replace it and eml light came on and showed a vanos fault. I cleared the code and have replaced rocker cover and gasket to stop oil leak and haven’t had the eml back on and cars driving fine. Could this has been abit of dirty oil on a sensor to throw up that fault or possibly still an issue with the VANOS?
None at all. Qr code on cams faces up - cams locked with tool but the vanos sprockets can go any position just dont mix up ex and in lol ein / aus in German
@allmech_BMW_fault_finding why does mine still have the shake? I literally changed the vanos gear for Ex and In plus the actuator, changed fuel injectors and spark plugs and still nothing. Can we please talk on email or something i really need your help
I have a BMW 320, n20 engine, 184 HP, at the first cold start, only when decelerating does the idle drop in 300-400 rmp, after which it recovers. The rest of the startups work fine. It has no error codes! can it be from vanos?
Hello. I was having two issues, on my BMW F20 116i B38 2016, DTC 118001 & 130304. Both errors came along. For the first one, i have changed the - Fuel tank breather valve - OE code part 13907643106, and now the car is running ok. But i still wonder if that fixes the second error, the "130304 VANOS, exhaust: Control fault, camshaft stuck". I have made since then over 1000 km and the error 130304 doesn't appear anymore. Should i be worried, or considering changing the vanos or the vanos actuator? Thank you!
Hello, if I change the vanos exhaust electric solenoid on my N20, do I need to do a bleed procedure afterwards? Do you have any tips on how to do the bleed procedure on the N20? Thank you for the informative videos!
There is no bleed procedure like on the old S55 or S54 with the seperate vanos units. Just crank it over with the coils disconnected and pull the fuel pump control (fuse to ekps or relay) crank it to build up the oil pressure and your good to go
Not that I heard of 🙂 I did have a siezed B58 on a 3 year old X5 hybrid. Oil pump failure suspected. B58 is a superb engine. You should have very little issues.
Hello, good vídeo! I have the same 2 failures codes as yours: 130304 VANOS solenoid valve, exhaust: Camshaft jammed 130308 VANOS solenoid valve, exhaust: Position not reached But the car is running smoothly and rpm’s are stable, I thing that it has loose some power.(But when you remove the failure code from the car, it drives perfectly 100kms until the failure light comes on. The are going to change me the banks solenoid exhaust valve. If the car runs smooth, do you think that it might be the exhaust valve or there will be something brake in the exhaust camshaft sprocket? The car is BMW 118i f21 180.000 kms and i am afraid of the hours it can take…💰💰
So you think that solenoid exhaust valve will be okay? And do you know if solenoid can be checked before buying a new one? And to change the vanos sprocket or the actuactor bolt, do I need to take off the gear box or I can change it without taking the motor down and the gear box out? Thanks in advance!
@@allmech_BMW_fault_finding yes, I saw it and it is really interesting. But I don’t know if I need to take down the gear box or the access is “easy” for changing the actuator or exhaust vanos sprocket?
New updates, the vanos solenoid valve is not the problem. Now the mechanic is going to check the vanos and if not it says that it can be a problem of pistons slack…. Do you think that this could happened?
hi, i have a bmw g30 530i I had the check engine light and after the diagnosis I had a fault that referred to the vanos valve actuator as if it was jammed. I want to state that the engine runs perfectly, I had no symptoms and that the check engine warning light disappeared after a few hours. do you have any idea if my problem can be similar to what you explained in this video?
great video 👍🏻 just came across this at work , one question , the sprocket itself , where should i position it on the cam as i’ve only just found out ur supposed to mark it before removal ,
@@allmech_BMW_fault_finding i checked breather cap light suction but not crazy i just posted a video on my page that would be great if i can get your advice!!
Hi mate, I’ll be honest I’m stressing, I’ve had a EMS light pop up, scanned it and resulted in 3 fault codes: Camshaft Exhaust Sensor Signal Implausible, 130304: VANOS, exhaust camshaft, control jammed, camshaft jammed and a P13C9 code. I’ve change the sensor drove it for a little and the EMS light has not come back. Car starts fine, can’t notice anything with the driving, cleared the fault once came back after 5 days. Can you please tell me if I will need to change these bolts. Thank you.
Usually its more the Vanos sprocket broken and sticking but if yours is intermittent you might as well change the actuator bolts. If this doesn't cure it you should change the vanos sprockets. If you have a rear wheel drive Bmw its an engine out job I'm afraid. Make sure your I-level is on the latest version as old I-Level is less tolerant to timing drifts.
I have a b38. These two mistakes. Will replacing the entire vanos solve the problem? Or maybe something else needs to be done apart from replacing the vanos? Thank you.
@SebastianPierog Expensive on b48 rear wheel layout as engine must be removed. Transverse layout not as expensive. It isn't mega common but if you have a front driven b series its not a huge job mate.
I had to get the VANOS solenoids replaced on my 2016 B38 218i at around 45k miles. Symptoms were very rough running engine to the point where it would stall when starting unless I gave it some revvs, cost £1070 at the independent BMW specialist, including a chain tensioner replacement...8 hours labour apparently
One if my best friends b38 made rattle noise on lift off shifting gears. The rattle apparently is also caused by the vanos. The BMW dealer quoted vanos + cams for 2400€ ex vat. Is that a normal price?
Camshafts? If cams are replaced this price seems ok. If the cams are rusty some RVS treatment will remove the rust. Find out and let me know why they want to change camshafts.
@@allmech_BMW_fault_finding Yeah I thought changing the cams was highly suspect, could they get damaged due to wear on the vanos, (With timing being off).?
I have no fault codes but theres a weird rattle noise coming from the engine. Only after the car stood for longer than 10 hours in cold weather. Can it be the Vanos unit ? ua-cam.com/users/shortshnNUSY2nZQQ?feature=shared
This was exactly the issue. BMW wanted €5.500 for this fix but I ended up paying 700 at a local mechanic after asking to fix exactly this. Big thanks for this video!!
Awesome. Not so good Bmw mechanics at dealers these days from what I hear 😕
The filter screen bursting off is actually a consequence of the fault, what happens is the central valve fails and instead of only the plunger moving the full assembly inside the valve moves witch eventually burst the filter screen. If you catch them before they burst you’ll find if you press one finger on the screen then press the plunger you’ll feel the full assembly inside moving witch obviously doesn’t let oil flow correctly into the adjusters/sprockets. I’ve changed loads of these very very common.
Thats really useful to know because I had no idea why this happens. The power of the internet 👍I will try that next time and this will be a good test. Thanks for the info 🙂
Can this valve failure causing knocking on start up and only in the morning? I got exactly the same DTC stated in the begging of the video...
I have a fault with the exhaust Vanos, on inspection the ‘c’ clip has fallen out which appears to be common. Is the vanos easy to replace?
@richarddriscoll5201 With a locking kit yes however the injectors are difficult for a diyer. Please see this video and you will understand. HOW TO REMOVE A B48 INJECTOR
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Great video thank you. Out of interest, what are the very first mechanical symptoms (prior to appearance of the fault code) you’d expect to hear at tick over cold and hot. The reason I ask is because we have a March 2023 1.5 Countryman Automatic with 9500 on the clock and the engine harmonics are similar to that of a diesel, it appears to ‘throb’ (around the gearbox end) rather than idle smoothly. I really thought nothing of this at purchase private secondhand, because it is three not four cylinder as with our previous 2019 Cooper S Sport automatic, which was like a sowing machine. Although the noise has not increased, the more I hear it the more concerned I become? Your thoughts and advice would be welcome please. Thank you.
Hi, very informative video. Thank you.
My Mini Cooper with the B46 engine has rough idle, surging and stuttering under load (e.g. driving up a hill) and I've confirmed plugs, coils, throttle and Lambda sensors appear good. No codes, just periodic drivability issues as described above.
Based on my research these symptoms could also be caused by a bad vanos electric solenoid. My understanding is that the solenoid is known to fail. But how can I tell a bad solenoid from the screen problem without throwing parts at the issue. I also don't want to have to pull the engine to check the screen. I assume that the oscilloscope trace would not necessarily distinguish between a bad solenoid and a sheared Vanos gear? Very much appreciate your input as the drivability is driving me crazy and I certainly don't want to wait for a more serious failure to occur. Thank you
I know this is an old video but do you have the part number for the sprocket for the B48? Thank you
Awesome and well detailed video mate...legend
Thanks Tony. Did you watch my latest video? It covers the repair from start to finish. Part 2 of that is in production where I show how to do the injector installation too. Check it out.
Great vid again. A friend has replaced the exhaust solenoid valve on one, but now comes up with ex cam solenoid installation error. Wonder if the screen and circlip has failed on that.
Thanks Wayne. The vanos wheel will have cracked inside.
Hey there! After replacing spark plugs, coils and injectors i came across this solenoit variation between target vs actual position and i was able to replace the two eletrical vanos actuators on my Mini Cooper S F56 B48 engine. I noticed some slight improvements but the variatons still persist, specially at constant light acceleration.
Would you say that if i was able to remove the eletrical actuator i could also try and extract/replace the VANOS central valve aswell? If yes what would be the ttool?
Can you tell me as a customer what is the cost to repair that problem? My bmw has come up with that fault code, I was told it’s a 20 minute fix by one garage and then another garage told me it’s a complete engine strip down. But seen this video and it has enlightened me. Thanks
Hello Bryan it depends. A transverse mounted B series takes around 4 hours including re-aligning the injectors as they have a special tightening procedure (see my video about that)
The rear wheel drive variants unfortunately require engine removal as you cant do anything as the chain is at the back. 20 minute fix refers perhaps to a new solenoid but that wont achieve anything since the solenoid only controls the bit thats faulty inside.
Its a 2 day job minimum for those engines
Thank you. I believe mine is rear wheel drive, so I’m looking at a hefty repair bill. Might just buy an Old Ford fiesta had one for 10 years and only had to replace the tyres. 😃Thank you for you honest answer.
@@allmech_BMW_fault_finding Great video! Thanks! I have a B38 F20 rear wheel. Would we get the same error codes if really the solenoid is dirty or faulty? Do you have a video showing how to replace the solenoid on the B38 rear wheel?
@@allmech_BMW_fault_finding Hi! How many hours require an engine removal for fix this problem on a rear whell drive? Unfortunately I have this problem in my F20 B38... How many money? Thanks a lot for the information!
@@thenotoriousprahow many miles and were symptoms
I had an oil leak and I assumed it was coming from the rocker cover, I continued to drive the car as I needed to and was waiting for my garage to have time to replace it and eml light came on and showed a vanos fault. I cleared the code and have replaced rocker cover and gasket to stop oil leak and haven’t had the eml back on and cars driving fine. Could this has been abit of dirty oil on a sensor to throw up that fault or possibly still an issue with the VANOS?
While putting back both vanos gears, is there a center or timing for it? Like QR codes should be in which directions or the arrow on the gear?
None at all. Qr code on cams faces up - cams locked with tool but the vanos sprockets can go any position just dont mix up ex and in lol ein / aus in German
@allmech_BMW_fault_finding why does mine still have the shake? I literally changed the vanos gear for Ex and In plus the actuator, changed fuel injectors and spark plugs and still nothing. Can we please talk on email or something i really need your help
@Sunny-ed3uc email me - link is in my bio.
@@allmech_BMW_fault_finding i just sent you an email
I have a BMW 320, n20 engine, 184 HP, at the first cold start, only when decelerating does the idle drop in 300-400 rmp, after which it recovers. The rest of the startups work fine.
It has no error codes!
can it be from vanos?
Hello. I was having two issues, on my BMW F20 116i B38 2016, DTC 118001 & 130304. Both errors came along. For the first one, i have changed the - Fuel tank breather valve - OE code part 13907643106, and now the car is running ok. But i still wonder if that fixes the second error, the "130304 VANOS, exhaust: Control fault, camshaft stuck". I have made since then over 1000 km and the error 130304 doesn't appear anymore. Should i be worried, or considering changing the vanos or the vanos actuator? Thank you!
Hello, if I change the vanos exhaust electric solenoid on my N20, do I need to do a bleed procedure afterwards? Do you have any tips on how to do the bleed procedure on the N20? Thank you for the informative videos!
There is no bleed procedure like on the old S55 or S54 with the seperate vanos units. Just crank it over with the coils disconnected and pull the fuel pump control (fuse to ekps or relay) crank it to build up the oil pressure and your good to go
@@allmech_BMW_fault_finding Thank you!
@ovidiuzav 👍
Does it happen in B58 as well? I thought I am driving a car with reliable engine...
Not that I heard of 🙂 I did have a siezed B58 on a 3 year old X5 hybrid. Oil pump failure suspected. B58 is a superb engine. You should have very little issues.
Hello, good vídeo!
I have the same 2 failures codes as yours:
130304 VANOS solenoid valve, exhaust: Camshaft jammed
130308 VANOS solenoid valve, exhaust: Position not reached
But the car is running smoothly and rpm’s are stable, I thing that it has loose some power.(But when you remove the failure code from the car, it drives perfectly 100kms until the failure light comes on.
The are going to change me the banks solenoid exhaust valve. If the car runs smooth, do you think that it might be the exhaust valve or there will be something brake in the exhaust camshaft sprocket?
The car is BMW 118i f21 180.000 kms and i am afraid of the hours it can take…💰💰
It will need vanos sprocket if the screen is broken on the actuator bolt.
So you think that solenoid exhaust valve will be okay? And do you know if solenoid can be checked before buying a new one?
And to change the vanos sprocket or the actuactor bolt, do I need to take off the gear box or I can change it without taking the motor down and the gear box out?
Thanks in advance!
@sergiogarcia1341 Watch the video it shows exactly what to look for with the actuator. I never did chain on F2x but usually we remove the engine.
@@allmech_BMW_fault_finding yes, I saw it and it is really interesting. But I don’t know if I need to take down the gear box or the access is “easy” for changing the actuator or exhaust vanos sprocket?
New updates, the vanos solenoid valve is not the problem. Now the mechanic is going to check the vanos and if not it says that it can be a problem of pistons slack….
Do you think that this could happened?
hi, i have a bmw g30 530i
I had the check engine light and after the diagnosis I had a fault that referred to the vanos valve actuator as if it was jammed. I want to state that the engine runs perfectly, I had no symptoms and that the check engine warning light disappeared after a few hours. do you have any idea if my problem can be similar to what you explained in this video?
great video 👍🏻 just came across this at work , one question , the sprocket itself , where should i position it on the cam as i’ve only just found out ur supposed to mark it before removal ,
There is no keyway so you should lock the camshafts in place with locking plates. Without those the valve timing will be off.
Is a symptom of this a squeaking noise on light acceleration and idle?
Not at all. Squeaking? Check the breather, is it sucking from the oil cap?
@@allmech_BMW_fault_finding i checked breather cap light suction but not crazy i just posted a video on my page that would be great if i can get your advice!!
@DriveDynamicsAz send me the link here 🙂 I look tomorrow
@@allmech_BMW_fault_finding
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Came across this exact fault today at work. Baffled me what had happened to the screen 🤷♂️
Me too until that guy below enlightened us all. Only afterwards could I see what he meant - the whole valve body is displaced internally 😅
Hi mate, I’ll be honest I’m stressing, I’ve had a EMS light pop up, scanned it and resulted in 3 fault codes: Camshaft Exhaust Sensor Signal Implausible, 130304: VANOS, exhaust camshaft, control jammed, camshaft jammed and a P13C9 code. I’ve change the sensor drove it for a little and the EMS light has not come back. Car starts fine, can’t notice anything with the driving, cleared the fault once came back after 5 days. Can you please tell me if I will need to change these bolts. Thank you.
Usually its more the Vanos sprocket broken and sticking but if yours is intermittent you might as well change the actuator bolts. If this doesn't cure it you should change the vanos sprockets. If you have a rear wheel drive Bmw its an engine out job I'm afraid.
Make sure your I-level is on the latest version as old I-Level is less tolerant to timing drifts.
Hi Wayne, do you know the torque spec for the vanos central valve ?
No idea. Whos Wayne? 😅
I have a b38. These two mistakes. Will replacing the entire vanos solve the problem? Or maybe something else needs to be done apart from replacing the vanos? Thank you.
Just change the vanos sprockets and bolt actuators and you should be ok if you have these same fault codes
Is this a serious fault? Is the defect costly? I'm worried about the car because it's young.@@allmech_BMW_fault_finding. Thanks brother.
@@allmech_BMW_fault_finding Is this an expensive repair? Invasive? I have a young car, but I'm worried about it.
The error also disappeared from the board by itself. I do not know what to think.
@SebastianPierog Expensive on b48 rear wheel layout as engine must be removed. Transverse layout not as expensive. It isn't mega common but if you have a front driven b series its not a huge job mate.
I had to get the VANOS solenoids replaced on my 2016 B38 218i at around 45k miles. Symptoms were very rough running engine to the point where it would stall when starting unless I gave it some revvs, cost £1070 at the independent BMW specialist, including a chain tensioner replacement...8 hours labour apparently
Yep as the injectors need to be removed. The bolts holding the vanos sprockets are also the oil control valves 🙂
hello ! torque vanos selenoid valve ? thenk you verry mach !
if u need to know how to put the spring bach just let me know. is easy
One if my best friends b38 made rattle noise on lift off shifting gears. The rattle apparently is also caused by the vanos. The BMW dealer quoted vanos + cams for 2400€ ex vat. Is that a normal price?
Camshafts? If cams are replaced this price seems ok. If the cams are rusty some RVS treatment will remove the rust. Find out and let me know why they want to change camshafts.
@@allmech_BMW_fault_finding Yeah I thought changing the cams was highly suspect, could they get damaged due to wear on the vanos, (With timing being off).?
Это все происходит от не правильной вязкости масла 5w30, 5w40. B48, B38, B47, B58 только 0w20, 0w30 !!! Обязательно менять раз в 7000км
Correct
I have no fault codes but theres a weird rattle noise coming from the engine. Only after the car stood for longer than 10 hours in cold weather. Can it be the Vanos unit ?
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