I Didn't Like The Northman Very Much

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  • Happy Leif Erikson Day! This year, I'm reviewing the Robert Eggers Viking epic The Northman.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 328

  • @philkelly704
    @philkelly704 2 години тому +334

    I think what you’re missing here is exactly how phenomenal Alexander Skarsgard looks with his shirt off, thus negating the need for a plot.

    • @nataschavisser573
      @nataschavisser573 Годину тому +28

      Yes, his torso is carrying a lot of weight in this movie.

    • @philkelly704
      @philkelly704 Годину тому

      @@nataschavisser573 It looks like a very firm, load-bearing Torso.

    • @klisterklister2367
      @klisterklister2367 Годину тому +5

      You make a great argument

    • @philkelly704
      @philkelly704 Годину тому +13

      @@nataschavisser573 It’s a firm, load-bearing torso.

    • @potatopotatow
      @potatopotatow Годину тому

      Well said.

  • @somnambulist83
    @somnambulist83 2 години тому +151

    I'll vouch for you--the guy from Jurassic World's name is Owen Thunderguns and his submissive lady-friend's name is Submissive Lady-Friend.

    • @theprimo100
      @theprimo100 2 години тому

      Does he hang dong?

    • @MadIvano
      @MadIvano Годину тому +3

      One of Mike’s finest lines.
      Every time I think of Chris Pratt I think of Owen Thunderguns.

    • @chrisowens4550
      @chrisowens4550 Годину тому +3

      Huh, I thought her name was Girlboss stereotype.

    • @Sgt_Joker
      @Sgt_Joker 6 хвилин тому

      Sarah Harding was a far better character than PR Manager Lady and friggin Donald Gennaro was far more compelling than Badass Navy SEAL Man. The JW trilogy is an insult to the first trilogy.

  • @renaigh
    @renaigh 2 години тому +121

    Vinland Saga should've been a slice-of-life anime

    • @toadsprout
      @toadsprout 2 години тому +21

      vinland saga but 2/3 of it is the farm arc

    • @8xottox8
      @8xottox8 2 години тому +25

      Farm arc best arc.

    • @zainmudassir2964
      @zainmudassir2964 Годину тому

      It has same manga author as Planetes which is sci Fi about space exploration

    • @slyskyes590
      @slyskyes590 Годину тому +1

      It is tho 😏

    • @spenceramey406
      @spenceramey406 29 хвилин тому +1

      Those who criticize the Farm Arc. Trust me, if you hang on and gotten through the "Farm Arc". You will definitely like the "Baltic Sea Arc" coming up. Vinland Saga is truly a slept on series. Season 1 was so good, it made me read the manga.

  • @duckheadbob
    @duckheadbob 2 години тому +225

    Its not really a viking story and more of a viking-themed hamlet, and it WILDLY succeeds at that imo

    • @Mr.McMuffin
      @Mr.McMuffin 2 години тому +4

      1000% agree with that

    • @Daniel_Plainview_1911
      @Daniel_Plainview_1911 2 години тому +32

      This is based on the original story of Amleth, which William Shakespeare turned into Hamlet

    • @merrittanimation7721
      @merrittanimation7721 2 години тому +10

      Hamlet if we saw his college days before the plot started, but with murder instead of books.

    • @sweatygarbage6969
      @sweatygarbage6969 Годину тому

      Idk man if you listen to Andy's points, the characters aren't really as interesting or layered as Hamlets' are, Hamlet himself having the layers of madness, existential questions around death and suicide, and different mechanisms and means of revenge. Amleth is, as the video says, basically Angry Revenge Man without really questioning or engaging with revenge as a concept or theme

    • @M.JWitteveen
      @M.JWitteveen Годину тому +6

      I mean I disagree with that as well though. Northman is the only Viking related content that I've seen that used actual period-accurate weapons and armour (except for the naked berserkers)

  • @TihetrisWeathersby
    @TihetrisWeathersby 2 години тому +80

    Leif Erikson was a man that liked to live life on the edge, in the fast lane. He was a man that lived like Larry.

    • @Sableagle
      @Sableagle 54 хвилини тому +1

      He knew all the right people; he took all the right pills. He threw outrageous parties; he paid heavenly bills.

    • @SnausageKing
      @SnausageKing 14 хвилин тому

      Ben Larry Kenobi?

  • @TheAxlSnaks
    @TheAxlSnaks 2 години тому +41

    Spoiler Warning:
    One of the most intense scenes in cinema is in the tiny ass room toward the end, when he has killed his brother and his mother, and the man he has been hunting quietly enters the doorway, lifts his dead wife and son, and they stare intensely at one another
    No music. Barely any sound. Two shots.
    Gave me fucking goosebumps, that

    • @brianjohnson4082
      @brianjohnson4082 34 хвилини тому

      I like how tired and so over it Aleth is.
      He can't even muster up any big response when his uncle brings up his father.

  • @bipolarminddroppings
    @bipolarminddroppings Годину тому +4

    I wish more movies reviews could be summed up with "This movie wasn't for me". I feel like half the critics on youtube need to learn that phrase instead of getting angry about the fact they've gotten old and movies aren't being made for them anymore...

  • @TheGreatBerserker
    @TheGreatBerserker 2 години тому +44

    When the narration and camera swoop started my thoughts were "this better be for a dog"

  • @maddg7471
    @maddg7471 Годину тому +21

    The opening part of this video traumatized me to my core. The look in the viking dogs eyes was pure malice.

    • @Sableagle
      @Sableagle 53 хвилини тому

      Have you met _Meles meles_ at all? A _hund_ would have to be crazy or desperate to go after one of those, so the _Dachshund_ was bred to be both.

  • @ethanbaker137
    @ethanbaker137 2 години тому +30

    I think like most of eggers work the northman has a somewhat weak story going on but its vibes are purely immaculate straight up

    • @GeeBarone
      @GeeBarone Годину тому +3

      I dunno I think The VVitch has a banger narrative, but I also studied 17th century Witchcraft accounts at university so I maybe get more out of it than most.
      I agree with the sentiment

  • @KroiAlbanoiArbanon
    @KroiAlbanoiArbanon 2 години тому +25

    The volcano fight reminds of Simba fighting his uncle.

    • @comradetrashpanda8777
      @comradetrashpanda8777 Годину тому

      Another adaptation of Hamlet albeit a poor one lol. Scar did nothing wrong!

  • @OctavioMovies
    @OctavioMovies Годину тому +6

    15:18 I think what's funniest is that there's some real Uralo-Finnic people named the Chuds (or Chudes) who had a fair bit of interaction with Scandinavian peoples. I remember reading somewhere that the Sami tell stories to their children about how the Chudes will come and kidnap them if they misbehave.

  • @ClayAlmighty
    @ClayAlmighty 2 години тому +18

    Honestly, seeing what was filmed in the behind the scenes footage and photos vs. what we saw.
    I firmly believe the film we got is NOT what Eggers wanted. I remember reading leaks about test audiences not understanding the ending and it needed changes. But like, that's kind of the point of Eggers movies? In a first viewing, you probably won't get the ending. It's the beauty of his films. You see it again, paying attention to the deeper themes and the ending hits. This... doesn't really exist in The Northman, and with how Eggers sounds in the directors cut, he's clearly not happy with the changes he was likely forced to make to get this movie to theaters against test audiences.

    • @friendsquadzulu
      @friendsquadzulu Годину тому +1

      my letterboxd review is just a quote about the film:
      "Eggers and the studio worked together to find the most entertaining cut of the film."

    • @connorsedlacek4635
      @connorsedlacek4635 Годину тому

      I've definitely heard about this too. I do think the final cut works as-is. But this is definitely a case where something was compromised. Hopefully we'll learn more about what that first cut was in the future.

    • @patron8597
      @patron8597 48 хвилин тому +2

      I wouldn't doubt that. I watched the RLM review and they complained about all characters looking too clean and too neatly dressed. Sometimes us history fans forget that most people actually still believe all those Victorian myths.

  • @cyancat5451
    @cyancat5451 2 години тому +15

    I don't necessarily agree that there had to be a major kingdom to fight over or that the main character had to abandon his revenge at the end. It's to show he's bound by a vendetta he can't bring himself to abandon. The tragedy of the unending nature of the vendetta is a recurring theme in several sagas. I do agree that him saying 'I choose both' and the bombastic nature of the fight and the weird royal bloodline scene at the end is a cop-out. The movie should have committed to the final fight being tragic and pointless, rather than being epic despite how pointless it still is in context. The point that even complete revenge with his uncle's entire family and his mother dead can't make him whole could have been a more thoughtful conclusion, but since he dies in the fight and there's a scene showing the glorious destiny of his bloodline at the end, we do very much get the impression that he somehow still died fulfilled.

    • @connorsedlacek4635
      @connorsedlacek4635 Годину тому

      The bloodline vision at the end does undercut the anti-revenge point you describe, which I agree is what the movie seems to be saying. My take is that it is just a dying, unreliable "dream sequence" like the two (?) others in the movie. I understand that can be a bit hard to swallow, though.

    • @patron8597
      @patron8597 26 хвилин тому

      ​I would argue that while it could be seen as a pointless death he could have avoided if let go of his desire for revenge, for the character, it really wasn't. The supernatural elements might be all in his head, there's certainly enough room for that. But according to his world view, he died avenging his father's death and he died in battle. It wasn't a tragic end to him at all.

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith3699 2 години тому +13

    The thing that struck me about the bits of the sagas that I read is that so much of the action seemed to revolve around court cases. Maybe we need a Norse version of "A Few Good Men".
    "Viltu sannleikann?! Þú getur ekki höndlað sannleikann!"

    • @charlesparr1611
      @charlesparr1611 2 години тому +1

      With Mads Mikkelson as Bengt Matlokson, hero of the allthing.

  • @megafire7
    @megafire7 Годину тому +6

    I remember thinking it was rather fitting that the uncle had already lost his kingdom and was essentially exiled to Iceland, because it made the idea of enacting revenge against this guy... pathetic. The fact that it lowered the stakes made me more interested in how the desire for revenge ruined our angry shouty man.
    The movie, ah, did not really deliver on this view of mine.

  • @prestobizmal
    @prestobizmal 2 години тому +21

    The clips that exist of the film before they removed all the color look awesome

  • @EriktheRed2023
    @EriktheRed2023 2 години тому +10

    Thanks for letting me listen in on this conversation between people who are really into film.

  • @toadsprout
    @toadsprout 2 години тому +14

    i really just needed him to stop pulling back the cool supernatural shit. literally every time the movie threatened to get interesting or actually cool in a non-superficial way it was a trick

    • @Emelia39
      @Emelia39 Годину тому +2

      I think ever since the success of shutter island I see a lot of film makers doing the “it was just their imagination or that they’re crazy” thing and I need for directors to understand that it’s the thriller equivalent to “it was all a dream.”

  • @timswabb
    @timswabb 2 години тому +11

    I loved The Northman. I was so glad I saw it in the theater. I think it made a big difference.

  • @ContentsMayDiffer
    @ContentsMayDiffer Годину тому +4

    "He mortally wounded him" is usually how the sagas tell it. Short and sweet.

  • @nicotrex6690
    @nicotrex6690 44 хвилини тому +2

    I didn't think this movie as realistic viking portrait. I watched It as new version of Hamlet. Like the Richard III movie of 1995. Hamlet Is an angry revenge Man.

  • @zackc3767
    @zackc3767 2 години тому +10

    This movie had some really cool scenes stitched together by a meh main plot. The ball game scene and the berserker attack particularly were amazing.

  • @nextabe1
    @nextabe1 58 хвилин тому +2

    Literally just rewatched The VVitch last night, will definitely check out The Sudbury Devil!

  • @michaelgrabner8977
    @michaelgrabner8977 58 хвилин тому +5

    to overlay the village pillage with the tone of Monty Phyton´s Lancelot´s rage made my day.

  • @EriktheRed2023
    @EriktheRed2023 2 години тому +5

    You're reminding me just how awesome the soundtrack to MPatHG is. And just how straight it was played, adding to the hilarity, of course.

  • @mboatrightED300
    @mboatrightED300 Годину тому +2

    As a female viewer, I actually did relate to Gertrude, ‘cause yeah if I was kidnapped and forced into a marriage to a man I hated I would also plot his murder and feel very little remorse over it. But the movie just isn’t interested in her story even though it’s way better than Amleth’s.

  • @TheAxlSnaks
    @TheAxlSnaks Годину тому +4

    12:30
    Man, I really do love you. I do. But I absolutely despise this take.
    Firstly let's start with a simple criticism I have of modern movies: there are too many cuts! Every single line of dialogue has a cut to the person speaking, every single movement of the character on-screen has a cut to the people around them, or to them themselves to show their face. It's tiresome. We need to start letting scenes B R E A T H E. One of the modern hallmarks of modern cinematography was that excellent battle scene in The Revenant, the giant minimally edited one-shot that everyone touts because, especially when it happened, it was a breath of fresh air for an action sequence.
    Secondly, what does this minimally edited, well-choreographed shot achieve? That this is a shark wading through water, Noah splitting the Red Sea, a stable sort of insanity in the chaos of battle. A common theme that people who have major PTSD are known to have is what during stressful situations? Calmness. And even though our protagonist is fueled by rage, earning his keep among the Slavs as a butcher - his clearheaded murderous nature during this scene highlights truly how much of a broken man he really is. A fact highlighted by the premonition he receives soon after that leads him toward the man he was wanted dead since he was a boy.
    This theme comes full circle at the end when he "chooses both" revenge and love - it's because it's a lie. He chose revenge. But he knows it's the wrong choice. He is the strongest most capable warrior in all of Vineland, arguably, but not strong enough to tell the love of his life that revenge drives him more than her heart.
    Anyways, I feel like the emotional nature of the scenes feels more grounded specifically because the camera work isn't jumping around the battle like a fuckin' Michael Bay movie.

    • @patron8597
      @patron8597 18 хвилин тому

      Agreed. One of the worst areas of action cinema was around the 2010's, when everyone over used quick-cut, shaky cam close-ups for action. This can work when shooting a chaotic, close pitched battle in which two armies clash, but it shouldn't be the go to for every action scene.
      Especially here. It shows that killing and death has become second nature to the man we last saw as a crying little boy.

  • @nyxshadowhawk
    @nyxshadowhawk 29 хвилин тому +2

    I know a lot more about Germanic culture now than I did when I first watched this film and... yeah. You hit the nail on the head. I REALLY hope that Nosferatu is good.

  • @ButTheCatCameBack
    @ButTheCatCameBack 2 години тому +18

    The attempts by bad actors to use this film as an affirmation of their rwcist views really irked me after I saw this. One of the things I felt after seeing it in the theater was it was about Amleth's failure. He never seems to truly learn anything from others. His lover, the revelations from his mother even despite her own awful nature, etc. And that ultimately he threw away any good influence he could have had for his children and others in a single minded pursuit of a revenge that was in many ways based on false notions.

    • @boarfaceswinejaw4516
      @boarfaceswinejaw4516 Годину тому +3

      its ironic how well that describes racists. so hell-bent on pursuit of either revenge, lost glory or identity that they throw away any opportunity to make something for themselves.

    • @wisdometricist880
      @wisdometricist880 Годину тому +1

      you're looking at the film from a modern lens instead of medieval

    • @robertbreedlovecraft
      @robertbreedlovecraft Годину тому +2

      Did the racists *actually* claim the Northman? I remember pre-release people were like "oh brother, the worst people are gonna also enjoy this..." but the vibe I got is that movie ended up being way too weird and left of the dial for that crowd.

    • @thomaswillard6267
      @thomaswillard6267 33 хвилини тому +1

      ​@@wisdometricist880it is a modern film, not a saga, use your head

    • @fruitygarlic3601
      @fruitygarlic3601 20 хвилин тому

      ​@@wisdometricist880 Ye sonnes of Amleth be fatherless, as is 'a.

  • @daqueda1577
    @daqueda1577 2 години тому +11

    I think it's relevant that the co-writer of The Northman is Icelandic, and The Northman is more an adaptation of Ambale, the Icelandic version of Amleth, which only dates back to the romanticist period. The film is meant to be that version, an EPIC, so I don't think it's sensible to compare it to The VVitch or The Lighthouse, because they weren't aiming for that. Overall, I loved The Northman and given Andy's taste I'm not surprised he does not, but you know what Andy? I'm gonna start loving it even more now!

    • @SamuraiMujuru
      @SamuraiMujuru Годину тому +1

      Yeah, I understand the comparisons to Hamlet, since Hamlet and The Northman are drinking from the same well, but focusing so much on them really misses the point.

  • @CheckmateCaesarites
    @CheckmateCaesarites 29 хвилин тому +1

    I know it's not your style Andy, but I would love to listen to your rambling thoughts on The Last Kingdom for a few hours! (Preferably while drunk on mead of course!) ❤❤❤

  • @lucasjudson7859
    @lucasjudson7859 2 години тому +71

    Nice opinion you got there. Shame its WRONG

    • @eliahelfenbein4731
      @eliahelfenbein4731 2 години тому +1

      Love it

    • @SquatsAndOats2plate
      @SquatsAndOats2plate 2 години тому +6

      yeah, I just checked the based opinion database - his opinion wasn't found there, 0 entries, so its either in the wrong or cringe database. Gonna look there later.

  • @RvEijndhoven
    @RvEijndhoven Годину тому +17

    I didn't even have to watch the movie to know that The Northman was mostly going to be a wildly inaccurate mess drawing more from the 'savage warrior' mythology of the Victorians than the actual bits of old Scandinavian culture we've learned from historians and archaeologists.
    All I had to do was see a clip of the village raid where Alexander Skarsgård is walking around with no shirt on (let alone armour) killing people in armour with shields and weapons with a longer reach than his little hatchet and knife.
    Then when I did watch the movie, I was deeply frustrated by how many small elements and details of material culture _were_ accurate. Because I knew that people were going to look at all of that and proclaim this movie to be incredibly accurate while ignoring the glaring inaccuracies of all the big stuff.

    • @connorsedlacek4635
      @connorsedlacek4635 Годину тому +5

      That is definitely a paradox of the movie. Accuracy of the details but grotesque exaggeration of the cultural aspects. I'll defend the choice as a means of "De-Hollywoodizing" the setting and making it more strange for viewers, but the fact that Eggers himself boasted about the accuracy does clash with his "make Vikings scary and weird" intent, IMO.

  • @splatoon99
    @splatoon99 Годину тому +1

    This movie has two main messages, in my opinion.
    1. The past is a different country, and our ancestors believed in things we can't really comprehend, to the point that they might as well be an alien culture. No matter how much someone might like to LARP as a viking, they can never really make themselves believe Valhalla is real.
    2. Mothers are evil and will betray you.

  • @potatopotatow
    @potatopotatow Годину тому +1

    Funny that Alexander Skarsgard also played a character called “Eric Northman”

  • @zombiehampster1397
    @zombiehampster1397 Годину тому +2

    The call backs to Holy Grail were a nice touch. Loved the audio of (I assume) Lancelots rampage through the swamp castle? lol either way, good shit and critique.

  • @stepheng3985
    @stepheng3985 2 години тому +2

    I love stories with complicated characters that act, look, and feel like real people, but not all films need to be like that.
    For me, the spectacle of this film, the way it transports you to this world of the vikings (at least as depicted by the dubious historicity of the sagas), the cinematography, and sorta operatic vibe of the story were enough for me to love this film.
    As an alternative example, I'm a huge christopher nolan fan, and he's directed some of my favorite films. Nevertheless, while a lot of his characters may be facinating and compelling, I would say that most of them are characters at their core, are often a little one dimensional, and don't come off as entirely authentic/realistic human beings. But that's never stopped me from absolutely loving his work.

  • @JazzyCee
    @JazzyCee 9 хвилин тому

    Hinga Dinga Durgen everybody! Happy Leif Erikson day! Always look forward to your uploads on this date, Andrew! I mean, I always look forward to them in general, but you know what I mean.

  • @8xottox8
    @8xottox8 2 години тому +6

    Best damn day of the year. I did fail to procure the authentic traditional flavored vodka or drink mix though. A simple beer will have to suffice.

  • @brenatevi
    @brenatevi 2 години тому +6

    Didn't expect an Esoterica reference.

  • @EGULL97
    @EGULL97 2 години тому +13

    Really liked Jackson Crawford's take. Very like a saga, except that the protagonist is extremely lacking in Soliloquy.

    • @EGULL97
      @EGULL97 2 години тому +4

      And before anyone beats me up that is a very paraphrased statement. He had real criticisms himself, and I don't speak for the guy.

  • @theshenpartei
    @theshenpartei 2 години тому +17

    Now it makes me wonder would you do a review on the Viking series next year.

    • @DerMannDerSeineMutterwar
      @DerMannDerSeineMutterwar 2 години тому +4

      One can't review thar bullshit

    • @5Amigos32
      @5Amigos32 2 години тому +1

      ​@@DerMannDerSeineMutterwar the first 4 seasons are pretty good

    • @DerMannDerSeineMutterwar
      @DerMannDerSeineMutterwar Годину тому +3

      @@5Amigos32 If you can accept that it's a fantasy series without the slightest resemblamce of Norse culture.

    • @thomaswillard6267
      @thomaswillard6267 22 хвилини тому

      ​@@DerMannDerSeineMutterwarbro, you can be a thoraboo all you want, but lying just makes you look childish

  • @user-DeLorean-Dude2024
    @user-DeLorean-Dude2024 2 години тому +5

    If it makes you feel better Andy, there is a SpongeBob clip about Leif Erikson.

  • @choronos
    @choronos 2 години тому +3

    Looking forward to watching this one! I also did not like The Northman. It was a huge disappointment for me because I love Eggers' other movies, and the trailer made it look so good. I very much enjoy having my opinions validated by my peers!

  • @Strauss-
    @Strauss- 2 години тому +4

    14:00 I still remember the QnA where he said he doesn't know what that means. I already didn't believe him then.

  • @leochillrud6255
    @leochillrud6255 2 години тому +3

    15:16 my bad dude. Didn’t know you were filming and I needed a break

  • @shaggythewriter8185
    @shaggythewriter8185 Годину тому +1

    The fact that he made one of the most intentionally uncomfortable and awesome movies gives Andy an edge over most film reviewers. If he makes an adaptation of The Eddas I'll literally give plasma for a ticket if I have to

  • @WillyShankspeare
    @WillyShankspeare Годину тому

    Love the little clip of Skyrim music.
    I just wanted to say, you used a piece of Empire Total War music in your video about the history of battle scenes in film, which is one of my all time favourite videos of yours, and it took me forever to figure out where I'd heard the piece initially. I had put 300 hours into Empire Total War but it was a long time before I saw that video so I was both extremely familiar with the song but also extremely forgetful. When I realized what it was, it was a huge relief as it had agonized me for a year or so. This made me reflect on the power of video game music in a way few things have and I wanted to thank you for that experience.

  • @sodawater7822
    @sodawater7822 2 години тому +17

    Checkmate Eggerites.

  • @TSZatoichi
    @TSZatoichi 9 хвилин тому

    That overdub at the end is chefskiss perfection.

  • @GenghisVern
    @GenghisVern Годину тому +1

    your credits at the end piece is priceless...HAHA!!

  • @seculartapes
    @seculartapes 19 хвилин тому

    As others noted I read the point of the film as the tragedy of Amleth having an alternative to revenge in his grasp and then letting it slip away because he can’t let go of his need for vengeance.
    The zombie sword fight is just giving us what we ~should~ have got in the Atlantean Sword scene in Conan The Barbarian.

  • @prey556
    @prey556 Годину тому +1

    Happy Lief Erikson day Andy! A hinga-dinga-durgen

  • @danielcreamer9669
    @danielcreamer9669 Годину тому +2

    I think this film really effectively escalated Hamlet into like pseudo-Norse mythology. That did sacrifice some of the humanity though and it can come across Wagnerian.
    The film doesn't condone the violence persay - I thought the long oner was showing the detachment he was feeling from his life and his actions. However, you can show something brutal and sadistic intending for that to condemn those actions only to have Nazis watch it and applaud the brutality and the sadism.
    It's not my favorite film by any means, but I think Atun-Shei just wants a different Norse movie than this one. To which I say, make that movie Atun Shei I would pay for it! I would love to see that legend of the Viking Woman who escaped to Iceland and freed her slaves...

  • @Sableagle
    @Sableagle 55 хвилин тому

    If those fight scenes were any less convincing they'd be a Jiu Jitsu club demonstration at the University's Open Day.

  • @Banished-rx4ol
    @Banished-rx4ol 2 години тому +6

    I was hoping for more leif eriksson facts

  • @acerock013
    @acerock013 2 години тому +3

    I enjoyed it. It didn't see it as a viking movie per se. it is the story that Shakespeare used to write Hamlet. I really liked that there was a lot of authentic details as to how Norse/Dane/Rus peoples dressed and behaved. There was a lot to value there and I found it enjoyable and i even liked that there is an homage to Conan the Barbarian in there too.

  • @TihetrisWeathersby
    @TihetrisWeathersby 2 години тому +13

    Hollywood really wanted to milk the Viking stuff for as long as they could

    • @theshenpartei
      @theshenpartei 2 години тому +4

      Also the gaming industry look at ac Valhalla

    • @thrillhouse4151
      @thrillhouse4151 2 години тому

      Reminds me when all those “urban” video games popped up after GTA Sam Andreas.

    • @euansmith3699
      @euansmith3699 2 години тому +1

      Have we hit Peak Viking yet? I guess that'll be "Vikings vs Zombies".

    • @theshenpartei
      @theshenpartei 11 хвилин тому

      @@thrillhouse4151or saints row don’t forget that one. Heck even cod and world war 2 look at how many FPS games have world war 2 in them.

  • @ToyMachine1o1
    @ToyMachine1o1 2 години тому +2

    Totally understandable; have a great day ✌️

  • @jtoegi
    @jtoegi 2 години тому +6

    crying myself to sleep now while watching this

  • @dustinmichel7608
    @dustinmichel7608 2 години тому +12

    It was a good retelling of Hamlet

    • @timswabb
      @timswabb 2 години тому +9

      Hamlet was a good retelling of the original. The movie attempts to stay true to the original.

    • @dustinmichel7608
      @dustinmichel7608 2 години тому +3

      @@timswabb but became a better retelling of Hamlet.

    • @carlox1266
      @carlox1266 2 години тому

      Prince of Jutland was imo a better retelling , Christian Bale was a better Amlad and the story stayed closer to the saga .

  • @thanatonyxmoura
    @thanatonyxmoura 2 години тому +2

    The Skyrim music made this even better.

  • @definatelynotsomeguyyouknow
    @definatelynotsomeguyyouknow Годину тому +1

    If you look over there, you'll see two naked guys fighting in a volcano.

  • @FlyingFocs
    @FlyingFocs Годину тому +1

    Okay, but how did you get your dog to keep the Viking thing on for that long? Mine wouldn’t keep it on two seconds.

  • @tonywords6713
    @tonywords6713 2 години тому +4

    Idk why but the accents in this movie annoyed the ever living shit out of me

  • @Kurzula5150
    @Kurzula5150 Годину тому

    0:47 "Be not afeared - I am become hound again."

  • @ElvingsMusings
    @ElvingsMusings 59 хвилин тому

    The thing about Vikings is that there's so many hints that there was more going on with them. Like everybody talks about dying in battle and going to Valhalla when there are records of Vikings making tactical retreats all the time and that suggests that like with all beliefs, there's a gap between belief and praxis. Like there are records of Vikings believing in Folkvangr which is basically an afterlife for people who don't die in battle and the idea of this notion suggests that different societies had different views.
    The problem with Norse Myth is that all we have of it is Snorri Sturlusson and the Poetic Edda, and that's not Homer, the grand poet whose one idea was universally accepted, or accepted by a wide enough section of society to become consensus. It's basically just a smattering of something and likely not the full myths as it might have been widely embraced and seen across the breadth of Scandinavian cultures. Like there are gods like Ullr who seems to be a big deal but we don't have any stories about him.

  • @99Stutz
    @99Stutz 31 хвилина тому +1

    I don't have a remotely sophisticated review of this film, I just didn't find it enjoyable because I didn't care what happened to anyone. It was hard to follow and I didn't connect with anyone's motivations.

  • @TyroneBruinsmaFilms
    @TyroneBruinsmaFilms 2 години тому +8

    Oh no...I can hear a particular subset of this movie's fans coming to strike. I liked the film but understand why anyone would find it less than good

    • @patron8597
      @patron8597 23 хвилини тому

      Let the chuds fight with Andy-fanatics, the rest of us can have a civil discussion.

  • @charlesparr1611
    @charlesparr1611 Годину тому +1

    I greatly enjoyed the movie despite the lack of any reason to actually enjoy the movie, simply because the visuals were THAT GOOD. I suspect that if you left the dialogue out of the film entirely, just the rest of the sound, the music, and the pretty pictures it might make it even better.
    I do think the filmmakers decision to wash the whole thing to grey and brown, in an age where people were in love with colour and texture and opulence was a bit strange. Reminded me of the old trope about how if you want to make it look old times, just make it black and white...But as you say, the man is a great painter, and the visuals are just, well they're stunning. Like gape jawed in the theatre with popcorn falling out of your face at points.

  • @__RD14533
    @__RD14533 2 години тому +3

    Didn’t you make an entire video about how history nerds are weird for demanding that movies be 100% historically accurate?

    • @EriktheRed2023
      @EriktheRed2023 Годину тому +2

      Sort of. Also one retracting that, and agreeing with Brandon.

    • @MyUsualComment
      @MyUsualComment Годину тому +2

      @@EriktheRed2023 Yup, he changed his opinion. He and Brandon are now friends.

    • @fruitygarlic3601
      @fruitygarlic3601 18 хвилин тому

      Yes, and that it is frustrating when miscnceptions about history, that shape modern thought, are reaffirmed. (I am barely paraphrasing his and Brandon F's understanding: ua-cam.com/video/ObnpNVbZRV0/v-deo.html)

  • @rocketsniper8726
    @rocketsniper8726 39 хвилин тому +1

    "It insists upon itself"

  • @luizantonio1050
    @luizantonio1050 Годину тому

    oh god, i needed someone with the sensibilities of this channel to pick this movie apart

  • @Alurkerdood
    @Alurkerdood Годину тому

    It’s not Lief Erikson Day until Atun Shei releases a video. Drink life to the lees, just as you said so long ago.

  • @commanderneyo
    @commanderneyo 31 хвилина тому +1

    Have you ever considered reviewing the anime Vinland Saga at all? I finished season 2 and would love to hear what you think of it so far (there is a Manga but thats a lot of reading I don't want to make you do)

  • @Bildgesmythe
    @Bildgesmythe 2 години тому +2

    Best Viking movie ever is that dog!

  • @al3xa723
    @al3xa723 Годину тому +2

    Yo as someone who knows like, at least a LITTLE about runes, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU WRITING LMAOOO

  • @arthurbriand2175
    @arthurbriand2175 2 години тому +1

    Why would he repent Amleth? That's the entire point of the character to choose revenge instead of love.

  • @odanobunaga271
    @odanobunaga271 2 години тому +12

    It is so validating to see someone as an intelligent and accomplished filmmaker as you give voice to many of my feelings and disappointments regarding this film. The Northman was the first film I saw in theatres after the pandemic and I was excited for it, being a fan of Eggers and Viking pop culture like the Long Ships by Frans Bengtsson. What I got felt visually spectacular but lacked substantive soul. This didn't feel like I was watching real Norsemen or a retelling of a Norse saga but another film that mistakes material fidelity with psychological fidelity.

  • @milesgibson9555
    @milesgibson9555 2 години тому +1

    I only remembered that I actually watched this film when I saw the title of the video and that's all the condemnation you need really. I a massive fan of Early Medieval History and the Norse in particular, forgot that I'd seen the 'most realistic and action packed Viking film ever'. It just didn't have anything that latched onto my brain. Either that or it's because I saw it on a plane.

  • @josephnewberry9290
    @josephnewberry9290 42 хвилини тому

    Hmm. Did the algorithm lead me to Esoterica because of you? If so, thanks! Speaking of other UA-cam creators, I'd be interested to hear what you, Dr. Miano, and Milo Rossi think of History for Granite. His theories seem well researched and reasoned, but he also uses Uncharted X as a source and is pretty hard on modern Egyptology.

  • @wavetactics13
    @wavetactics13 Годину тому

    One thing I feel you may have overlooked is Amleth's pursuit of revenge is portrayed in a self-destructive light. The events of his childhood have produced an extremely unlikable person. One who readily throws away his current life just to get a chance at revenge after learning his target is more vulnerable than he believed. Its only after he sees his uncle and mother again that he starts to learn the view he's had of them since his childhood is deeply flawed, and a large part of his motivation since then was a lie. That is, in my opinion, one of the pivotal points of the film since it directly undermines his entire character up until this point and recontextualizes almost everything before that scene.

  • @leighfoulkes7297
    @leighfoulkes7297 Годину тому

    Just watched "Wild Strawberries" and I must say that is for me the greatest film I've ever seen. I was crying like a baby at the end of it but at the same time, I've never felt so happy. So frustrating that we are only stuck with these silly action movies with nothing original coming out (besides Atun-Shei Films anyway).

  • @Beth4ny
    @Beth4ny 8 хвилин тому

    My grandma is rolling in her grave that vikings are the main focus of movies made about scandinavia.

  • @adamcohen2632
    @adamcohen2632 Годину тому

    The battle scene you favor is found in Chimes at Midnight by Orson Welles. It's the best I have ever seen.

  • @charlesparr1611
    @charlesparr1611 Годину тому +1

    There is a comedy series based on the viking era, with a lot of Scandinavian actors and very high production values that you would likely greatly enjoy, But I can't seem to find a link to it. Its quite recent, might even still be in production. Damn. The viewpoint characters are two captives, one of whom is some sort of failed theatre kid, and the son of the chief who is gay and submissive rather than being a great warrior and into raping and senseless violence, and is drawn to the theatre guys plans to create a theatre in the village. The whole thing is fractally weird, and wonderful.
    .It's kind of like Mel Brooks on a longship, in many ways.

    • @willywonka7812
      @willywonka7812 5 хвилин тому

      A friend recommended that show. Think it's called Norsemen

  • @BewegteBilderrahmen
    @BewegteBilderrahmen 45 хвилин тому

    This kinda makes it sound like a mix between 13th Warrior, Vikings, and Valhalla Rising but taking the wrong parts of each.

  • @cillblinton8181
    @cillblinton8181 2 години тому +2

    You indie movie consuming a24 junkies are always a joy to observe

  • @KK-fi6ms
    @KK-fi6ms 41 хвилина тому +1

    I am tired of the Vikings continuously depicted as savages on movies and TV.
    Like even the critically acclaimed The Last Kingdom, the original author went into excruciating detail describing the chainmail armor used by the Danes, their highly organized combat tactics, the artistry of their house and ships, how they groomed themselves a lot more than saxons.... somehow all of that was lost in the adaptation.

  • @rorycampbell7490
    @rorycampbell7490 39 хвилин тому +1

    I'd actually disagree with the supernatural elements being imaginary.
    Rather, they are executed in a way that allows the viewer to choose to see them as either imagination or reality.

    • @patron8597
      @patron8597 4 хвилини тому

      Exactly! They represent the main character's world view, that's what matters.

  • @samvimes5124
    @samvimes5124 2 години тому +1

    Dear Master Andrew,
    Furnish me with a link to the podcast with Professor Sledge,...I beseech thee!

  • @MollymaukT
    @MollymaukT 2 дні тому +17

    Finally someone that also thinks this film is mid. I thought the sheep-farming thing was super lame and diminshed the revenge-story (you know what this movie is all about) since it kinda hand-waves that karma already took care of Fjolnir by knocking him down a few pegs

    • @HamburgerTime209
      @HamburgerTime209 2 години тому

      How’d you post this comment two days ago when it was posted 1 minute ago?

    • @InquisitorThomas
      @InquisitorThomas 2 години тому +2

      @@HamburgerTime209If you’re a certain tier of Patreon you get early access.

    • @xandermagne2141
      @xandermagne2141 2 години тому +3

      The cutting down is part of the point, though. Amleth has decided to pursue revenge with his theological justification when he could have just not. He is going too far when he doesn't have to.

    • @HamburgerTime209
      @HamburgerTime209 2 години тому +1

      @@InquisitorThomasoh I should’ve guessed that

    • @elmatasesues3630
      @elmatasesues3630 2 години тому +1

      To be frank my main complaint with it is far more basic-Alexander Skaarsgaard is not an action star, and fights like a mannequin. He is very clearly not naturally athletic, and can’t move his lanky roided out frame for shit. If I am honest it fits with the presentation of the film, which obviously has ambitions to play like an opera. But his stiff, awkward physicality which I first noticed in Tarzaan is a bit jarring.

  • @SirDarthDragon
    @SirDarthDragon 2 години тому

    Did you just sneak a civil war cannon into a viking themes intro? The Johnny Rebs SAGA continuous!

  • @zxbc1
    @zxbc1 Годину тому

    Hey Andy when are you going to review the great civil war epic by Ang Lee from 1999 "Ride With The Devil"? It's one of my (and others') all time favorite civil war movies and you ought to at least give it a try and let us know your opinion.

  • @fengusburnt
    @fengusburnt 10 хвилин тому

    I'm shocked how mid a movie that ends with a naked fight on a volcano turned out to be.

  • @m.streicher8286
    @m.streicher8286 2 години тому +2

    Already erikson day??

  • @hagbardceline7118
    @hagbardceline7118 54 хвилини тому +1

    From what I've gathered, this being Egger's first and now probably only big budget studio movie and he has a not great time with it and had to cave to a lotnof demands, it's by a wide margin hisnworst movie. But as far as dumb movies go, it's a really really good dumb movie. If taken in the same frame as say 300 or Troy, it's the highest tier pseudo historical yelling guy action movie. It's not up to Egger'a previous standard and that's dissapointing but in the genre that it's in, it's damn good

  • @ethantaylor9613
    @ethantaylor9613 Годину тому

    I don’t think the zombie was supposed to be his imagination and then what really happened so much as it was two versions presented side-by-side with about equal weight.

  • @thrillhouse4151
    @thrillhouse4151 2 години тому +2

    I haven’t watched it cause I’m kinda sick of Vikings, Samurai, Ninja, Pirates, Cowboys, anything that has a goofy hat attributed to it. All played out like those god damn superhero movies.

    • @Jellyslice8
      @Jellyslice8 2 години тому

      I agree, especially when it feels like they have a pretense of trying to box with the greats. But im sure cornballs would put The Last Samurai and Kagemusha on the same Mt.Rushmore.

    • @oatdilemma6395
      @oatdilemma6395 28 хвилин тому

      What a miserable person you are