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'TS245' - TS100 Soldering Iron with JBC C245 Cartridge
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- Опубліковано 20 бер 2018
- TS100 12 in 1 kit: bit.ly/2OFatSW
JBC Cartridges: www.welectron.com/Soldering-I...
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This TS100 all round carefree package is too large for most, but it becomes viable as soon as you consider purchasing 2 or 3 accessories along with your soldering iron.
I've been planning to try and drive a JBC cartridge with a TS100 soldering iron for a while and now that I got a spare, I finally did it. Successfully! There were a few problems and the increased current through the JBC C245 thermocouple especially can cause problems over time, so you might want to wait for my final report before modding your own iron.
Song: City Plaza by Dan Bodan
Wow, I can't believe it's been 5 years already. Now that the L245 USB-C iron is making the rounds, maybe time for a re-test and head-to-head comparison?
1:45 That tip is formally called a “PLCC Blade” because they were originally designed for soldering PLCC (“plastic leaded chip carrier”) ICs.
I use it for SMD at work, nomatter if its SOT23, 0805 og soic :P
Zplizor Absolutely, me too!! They’re great for lots of SMD and even general soldering.
Indeed it is good for PLCC and QFP soldering. Proper amount of flux paste around is very preffered though :) Fit for SMD desoldering as well.
Could you make a tutorial on how to grow your own capacitors? Could be a pretty nice project for many of us.
And maybe other components too!
The knife-shaped tip works great for soldering headers all at once. Also desoldering works great. Use it with wick, sometimes its simpler to use than a D4 tip or similar.
Every time you upload it's like christmas
I have no business in buying another soldering iron, but for some reason you keep me so hooked to your video's
No apostrophe was needed.
I bought a TS100 after your previous video on it. It's perfect for some quick soldering jobs!
K-style tips (the wood burning tip) is used for drag-soldering SMT IC's. I find they're also convenient for removing through-hole parts, since you can easily span two pins.
Exactly. Especially QFN parts. With a conical tip you can't even touch the 'leg' and the pad and get heat transfer. With the blade, it's super easy.
I never did like the knife style tip, I use either a beveled tip or Hot air for surface mount. But like many things a preference is just that, a preference.
The wide knife styles that seem abundant are really too wide for most things, and the 45 degree rake is way too steep and results in clearance problems around other parts. For all-around work, I ended up modifying a 3.2mm straight chisel to have a k-style edge bevel and a more subtle rake angle.
Bevels are king for SMD, but the knife is the queen. Chisels are for noobs.
When i say "bevel", i'm talking about the included angle of the edge geometry, not a type C/BC tip style. When i say "chisel tip" i mean something like a Hakko type D tip -- not a pyramid/chisel that you'd find on a tinner's iron from the hardware store. D tips are good for general-purpose through-hole work, but just like type C/BC tips, they can't sit flat against both the lead and the pad in the way that the edge geometry of a K tip allows.
Maybe a picture helps: a.safe.moe/yJh0Ly4.png Higher heat capacity and less rake than a type K tip.
the capacitor plant idea is great, I should try that soon because spring is just around the corner!
Be nice if you could grow LEDs too, but i've heard you can only grow bulbs..
I would try to grow intel core I9 instead!
Muhammad Nour You know, it's very hard to grow microcontrollers, let alone microprocessors. You gotta build up some skills to do that.
SMD resistors and capacitors grow in all kinds of places like weeds or algae, and I think it's worth harvesting them.
i just harvested, i don't want to 'spout' but lets just say ...over 100 F
ich hab mir den ts 100 auch zugelegt (danke dir) und bin mega beeindruckt wie auch zufrieden!
super klein, sehr leistungsstark, einfach ein hervorragendes werkzeug
The tip that you have burned your desk with is actually one of the most useful tips, especially for desoldering quickly.
The entire kit is around £150 which is surprisingly okay considering how cool this thing is! You could even use a power bank, that's the coolest!
€120 from banggood ;)
I ordered myself one too. I heard that this years capacitor season will be great!
This video is epic.
You are epic.
All of this fine mans videos are epic lmao, its so good
Am I epic too? Tell me i'm epic!!!
you are 36.7% epic. {be happy with that}
Kolin Evans It's enough I guess
I bought a TS100 with a TS-BC2 replacement tip after watching your videos. Thx..
That big knife tip is probably the best tip of all of them.
They're amazing general purpose tips. You can tin thick wires easy because they have huge thermal mass and you can also solder tiny 0402 components using the very sharp end of the tip.
I use it when cleaning with wick also. Like you said large surface area, large heat mass, and can almost "scrub" the board with the knife edge while wicking. Use it WAY more than I thought I would.
You make me smile every video, thanks. Drilling the holes and then finding handle, lol.
Sir, I cant get enough of your content.
That's awesome! Wish there was a ready to use mod available with everything needed all in one 🥃 cheers 🍻
Another well done video with a great idea!
I've been saving up for that kit. Definitely comes with a lot of nice stuff! :P
The K blade (the knife) is actually pretty good for flowing both sides of some SMC resistors and diodes. You can basically flow the solder on both pads and pull the component really quickly...
0:35 was a good giggle thanks
As always funny interesting and informative. Watched your build of the beefy soldering diy soldering iron impressive
I still get a giggle when Marco embraces the dork side.
Love the music in this one. Very charming
I'm crap at soldering and my iron is from the 80's but this video is great I'll take it. Love your humur
Knife tip is useful for connectors and thru-hole parts which have pins bent on soldering side. You can heat and pry things nicely ;)
You can, but you shouldn’t. It can damage the plating. I usually heat while I lift the bent pin with a metal spudger.
Your sense of humour are great. You are like the Black Books in electro world.
the tip that you use on wood it is for drag soldering (for 80's style through hole chips)
The capacitor plant and strange film style made me laugh the most I have in years! Thank you :)
Marco, where can I get that sponge that transforms to the wire when wet? :D
Никола
The same place capacitors grow on metal trees.
Silly: they are sponges similar to caterpillars that turn into butterflies. Only found in the land of Oz.
i'm in oz and you can't have any
The knife like tip is also good for cutting and sealing fabrics and ropes.
when u brought out the grinder my heart fell to my stomach
wew
Oh YEAH Marco!! Awsome video once again on the now world famous TS100 :) ! I think the manufacturer should at least give you 10 of those only for making that awsome solder iron famous :)
Marco :
I cannot find the continuation of this video, with your conclusions.
Me either
That is some quality content i subbed for. Now i can wait until he reaches 150k to 1M followers.
2:27 - I am moderately concerned that you have a drawer of thumbs 🤔
You mean you haven't ordered any thumbs from china yet? It's quite "handy" to have a few spares in case one or two get burnt.
Don't be silly, he's only got one Thumb in there.
your remark just earn one more thumb
Would it be better if I told you that those are thumb screws? Like medieval torture devices? 😈
Whilst I’m relieved you don’t keep real thumbs in there, the interest in medieval torture means that I have to maintain my moderate concern level, though I reserve the right to increase it to high 😛
The tanto bit could be useful when you want to get at an angle on older equipment where you have to dump a bit more heat than you could with other bits. I've found myself needing something (and making it) like that whenever i replace stuff in old equipment. THO, i don't know about the bevel, i found that just edging the tip on one side is perfectly ok.
Love the mild & intelligent sarcasm.
Thank you for watching. Keep your cartridge in the vise.
Obviously I value the technical content, but I've subscribed mostly for the dry humor
How had I not discovered this channel before?
Two versus three pins solder element.
Three pins is self explanatory.
Two pins use time division multiplexing, Read and Drive modes. (1) Cut off drive current before read thermocouple (needs two pins). (2) isolate thermocouple ADC input to drive heating coil (drive heating coil through thermocouple junction, two pins circuit). This way, time division multiplexing, produce no read error to thermocouple signal, that made three pins isn’t necessary.
God I love your sense of humor
If you've ever cut synthetic rope or twine and had to deal with the frayed edges, you'll know a good use for that hot knife tip.
Dexter is a beast! Respect!
Does anybody know where i can get seed for that bush?
Your videos are the best
Any updates on this? I have a TS100, a few JBC cartridges, and also a metal lathe. The mechanical interface between the two shouldn't be a problem, but the rest of it besides loading pre-compiled firmware to it are beyond my current skillset. Not to mention, I love my ittle TS100 and I might cry if I were to kill it..
Epic selling , almost makes me search the web for a store to buy these , both of them , even tho ill probably only use them to solder LED
This knife tip for me is usefull for desoldering 3 or more pin THT components with small gaps between the leads
The soldering iron doing surgery on itself was hilarious :)
5:22 You say 'to keep the heater current away from the thermocouple', but from what I read this is not true. The ground connection is purely used to ground the tip. That is because this ground connection is also connected to the 'chassis' tip, and putting current through it could put it at a voltage different to mains earth if no separate (isolated) supply is used for the heater and the measurement circuitry. Also, I think the internal wiring of the heater/thermocouple is thicker than the ground connection, but not too sure on that one.
Do you know if when or if I were to use the grounding clip, that if I ran it into the power supply I'm using and cut the clip off and soldered it into the ground on power supply, would that work or is that a bad idea?
I use the knife style tips to drag soder through hole components, kina works :)
Hey Marco! Epic video as usual!
Is that Xytronic rework/soldering station in the background?
I have the high frequency (HF-3200) version and whenever I solder near the coils, they buzz lol. Otherwise it's a great soldering iron.
That handle threw me off the chair. Danke sehr.
The tiny handle made me check to see if I was subscribed yet 😂😂
I know that's not how it want down but drilling before you pick out a handle is pretty out there
in addition to the handle mod, another mod might be to remove the insert with all the extra tips (only keep the 2 most used tips in the case) and install a battery and charger in the other side with the power output connector passing through the side of the case. If there is room, maybe a small parts compartment for... small parts that aren't in season in the wild, and maybe some shrink tube bits.
What a nice idea!
You just happend to have the perfect size handle for that ?!?!! damn dude
The knife tip is good for drag soldering DIP ics.
The knife-shaped tip may be useful in 3D printing cleanup.
I want more videos with TS100 soldering iron :D
Correct me if I'm wrong. I was under the impression that you could run the TS-100 from 12 or even 9 volts. Wouldn't that reduce the heater current sufficiently?
I use that style tip for drag soldering.
you continue to scare my children, keep up the great work
The hot knife tips are good for unsetting hot melt glue on slapped together projects like -greatscott- how to basic
I wonder how durable this soldering iron is and how long those tips will last before the heating element stops working?
I want to get one with a pointed long tip just for SMD soldering even I have my Weller with all kind of tips that I need, but I still want a dedicated one for just SMD!
What plant was that, I could do with an electrolytic capacitor plant? Love your humor. I like my JBC soldering iron station. Best soldering iron I ever had.
Waiting for the CNC
Where is part 2 of the video?
maybe with the pinecil?
Wow 139.99$$, that's already more expensive than my Weller station!
I really like how fast it heats the tip, hopefully, that wasn't you speeding the video up :LOL
the thermo sensor is almost literally next to the heater element. Also a lot of ceramic insulation forces the heat towards the tip mostly.
Alucard Pawpad
You mean because the thermocoupler is vey close to the heating element it appears to be heating very fast rather than being close to the tip itself and that would also means the displayed temperature is not accurate?
Is that what you meant?
That is correct, Muhammad. But the tip has a copper core so it becomes "accurate" within a few seconds. Also the cartridge current is going partially through the thermocouple so that might be also heating it up a little too.
But with soldering irons you hardly need an "Accurate" temperature. Most, if not all, soldering jobs require a temperature overkill to melt the solder QUICKLY before the heat spreads. Controlled heat is only important for high grade soldering jobs, where a pre-heating station is used to keep the entire board at a high (but safe) temperature, and the soldering iron just provides the final push.
Nope, at 65w (it's full power, needs a 24v psu) the tip is ready to melt solder in roughly 6 secs. It's a beast.
in 2:00 the tip its for BGA reballing , for clean pads , and clean solder in ball of BGA .
i like the style of your vids
Dude, you are the best!!
Very good video. Can you please tell me about the solder pot where you buy it have a link and how cost thanks
God points..
Thanks for trying the idea out in the open :-)
SO good!
I would like to ask Marco if he can advice me on what im dong wrong.
Last autumn, on my backyard i planted some small SMD 1uf ceramic caps in order to get them grown to high frequency caps to be harvest by spring. I was hoping to get something like the those Sprague 400v 32000uf that my father used to collect some years ago
To this day the SMD caps have become no more than cheap asiatic-nobrand-high-esr crappy caps. What i´m doing wrong? Maybe the ferrite fertilizer im using is not good enough?
Thanks for your time answering my questions! ;)
haha the pause at 2:42 was epic! 😂
I may be missing how the code / cct works but I do not understand the part about reducng the pulse to 30 from 100 to prevent overload of the fets ?
Will this not just reduce the Average current to 3 amps and leave the peak current at 24V/3Ohm i.e.. 8 Amps which is beyond the max peak load of the fets ?.
Don't understand how they didnt blow up ?
Is the PWM Frequency high enough that the inductance stops the current rising above 5Amp peak ?
In the TS200 possibly...
It would be Awesome if they included a resistance sensor in the device to monitor header resistance, as well as a SMD thermostat
I think the "Wood carving tip" is actually for BGA (Ball Grid Array) desoldering (Chips like GPU's and other BGA packages)
the blade tip cant be for BGA, as BGA chips are mounted directly ont the PCB and have their contacts in areas not reachable by a soldering iron.
Very interesting video!
How is your new CNC doing?
Is there any performance difference between the classic design tips and the tips with additional cooling like the TS-C1 or the TS-ILS? It doesn't seem like a huge difference up there but the price difference between the classic and the cooling design is pretty high, there must be something...
Hello, as always nice video! :) could you gently tell me the name of the solder melting pot?
Hakko hand pieces and tips can work with TS100 without any electronic modification. Make something cool with that. Thanks
You must limit current to 5 amps to keep the mosfet alive, so Vcc cannot exceed 15v (and with that you get just 75w at the tip). Maybe not such a good idea..
I just found out that i can use a jbc c245 handle straight on a dc source. At 5V 1,5A it heats up to 250°C and on 9V 2,5A to approximately 500°C ( tested on a cheap xsoldering cardridge, no worries ).
Now, watch me run through the world with my powerbank and do some primitive woodburning.
for some reason i just almost died laughing from the suggestion of soldering on the motherboard of the solderiron you are soldering with. had to rewind a good minute to get back to where i left off
any updates if it is still working with the Adapter?
Never thought of that👍
Is it possible to run TS100 with fully charged 6cell li-polymer battery wich voltage is 25.3 ?? please let me know.
hello marcosrep, I am trying to build your jbc c245 welder, but in the bom.txt file of the project, the voltage of each of the capacitors is not indicated, and it does not indicate if the picofusibe is smd. Could you help me with that information? Could you tell me if another Atmega8 chip is compatible? I do not fine the reference "AI". thank you very much
capacitor picking season, love it :D
The 5th season, it must be found.
OMG I WANT! - Epic video btw, was laughing throughout!
Knife tip could be used to cut supports for 3d printed objects.
bravo marco, u r doing amazing job every time
Great channel, made me buy the ts100. i like your informative videos but also the humor, who said germans arn't funny? well he's kinda right who ever said that, but you're an exception.
Can you use those patrion pesos to buy a Hakko FX888 station and hack it, to work with t12/t15 tip iron?