Beautiful review, I love your pure reaction. I was thinking about buying those BC RacIng BR Series for me BMW E36 as a replacement of my current basic coilovers. You totally convinced me dude!
Loved your video. We are probably the same age with similar views on our cars and their appropriate features for our age. I’ve been searching for reviews on BC BR coil overs and your direct explanations and more importantly your facial and verbal expressions while driving said it all to me. You have me convinced. Thank you! Btw I have 2021 Lexus IS 300.
I dig that Lexus now. Unfortunately, when I was looking for that exact type of vehicle the IS300 didn't look as good (much more striking now, whereas then it looked too much like a Corolla) so I went with a different brand. Call me petty if you want, but since my car is paid off now I'd rather not switch - even though I think the IS300 has looks to match how great a car it is!
@@LV2PLA it’s look has changed quite a bit with much better body lines. I agree to just continue to enjoy your car which looks great and just costs you the maintenance and any other mods you may consider.
You are the man bro I’m sure this video is old but your reaction says it all a real true convincing worth buying a must have thank you so much I’m on my way
Entertaining video! Just got the bc’s myself and I love them, got ‘em set at 5 from max soft for utah roads but it’s fun to tighten em occasionally for canyon cruises. Love the car looks like big cotton too wonderful road 👍
BCC is a great drive when you only have time for a quickie. My absolute favorite was Cascade Springs Scenic Byway - specifically going from East to West (way more fun in that direction since the turns get longer and more sweeping as you progress that direction). My Grand Tour was up BCC, over Guardsman Pass, down Pine Canyon Road and through Midway, up Cascade Springs Byway, then over the Alpine Loop and down through American Fork Canyon. That is an epic drive! We left Utah 7 months ago so now I have to find new roads to carve. Oh well.
How smooth is the ride compared to stock suspension when you have it all the way soft I wanted to get one for my 03 Subaru wrx to race but I still want to be comfortable daily driving because I'll be doing that a lot more
Nice. Currently working on an Audi S4. Have the Engine out for the "timing chain grenade" fix. Required ripping the whole front end off down to the sub frame. I'm now thinking a set of coilovers are going in when putting it all back together rather than the stock suspension :-) Hope all is good on your end - keep the fun vids coming....
Brave man: the most expensive car on the road is a used Audi. We loved that S6 4.2L we owned, but in two years I dumped the same amount of $ into it that I paid for it, and THEN the tranny started slipping. Yes, we still suffer from Audi Lust, but I like having more than $20 in my bank account.
( *EDIT* ) im running these same coils on my 2zz 01 frog.. and i run mine pretty damn slammed.. and my settings are in the high (teens) on the clicks.. front is like 16-18 ish and i think i am around 20-22 in the rear for mine.. but i canyon carve mine. and im not worried about looking like a middle aged hipster lmao i wish i got the "extra low" ones WITH the swift spring upgrade. cuz the stock 5/7 spring rate is a tad too soft for how low i am ( wanna go lower stance wise ) and i plan on going with aero as well.. anyways.. thanks for the vid ! i think i made a similar comment in your post on the fb spyder page as well..! ALSO... if you think the steering got a lil "heavier" ... change the settings a lil softer up front then the rear ( since you want the car to be more comfortable and not really a "canyon carver" ).. try running them around 10-12f & 12-14 rear... ;)
I stiffen them up for Touge and canyon work, but I just can't do the Daily with a stiff ride. Middle age sucks, but there's nothing I can do about it. These have been a sweet compromise thus far. Have you cranked them all the way up? Sounds like you still have a little room to go.
@@LV2PLA i have yet to go full stiff.. i want to go with stiffer swift springs .. prob gonna do 7f / 10r or something around that.. cuz i plan on running aero and will need it for the added df !
Since your car is slammed Grace you ever looked into an s13 bumpsteer kit? Apparently it fits our cars and it works very well. Considering getting that for my kyb + tein setup before coilovers
Forgive me if I have missed this - when you got them to the softest setting how low was the actual height? I am thinking about getting a set of these not to slam the car but to make make a couple of inches lower. I'm just wondering if that OEM type suspension feel will remain if these coilovers will get slightly lowered. Great review btw!
The stiffness setting does nothing to the ride height, which remains constant. You have to set that height using wrenches (supplied with the coilovers); there are several videos out there showing the process involved. I cannot speak as to changes in feel with a slight height adjustment, but my guess is that it would not be immense compared to cranking the stiffness way up. I hope this helps!
@@LV2PLA What I was meant to say is that once you get the car lowered you reduce the amount of shock travel. If I am right then even the softest setting will (probably) feel a lot stiffer compared to the same "comfort setting" when shock is at highest position. That's why I asked if you have lowered the car significantly or not.
@@aleksandrk9452 Ah, now I think I understand. And please forgive me if my explanation is knowledge you already have. Lowering the car does not limit the shock travel in and of itself; the shock system will continue to flex to it's maximum compression unless it comes up against an external obstruction (i.e. the car frame). If you look at the shock in the video, you will see two chrome rings in the middle - one at the bottom of the spring coil and one at the top of the shoe footing. That gap between them is your height adjustment envelope (unless you want to pre-compress the springs further, which opens an entirely different dynamic). Basically you loosen the ring on the footing and and twist the footing itself up along that threaded shaft towards the spring (technically "raising" the wheel towards the spring and frame). Afterwards, the whole system will continue to function to its maximum envelope: turning the car will still deflect the outside downwards the same amount... unless you bottom out against the frame. In short, the springs and pistons don't "know" that the gap is at max or min. If I recall, these had like 2-3" of height adjustment and my wheel gap to the top of the fender arch from the top of the tire was 4". That doesn't mean I'd clear the internal frame if I lowered to the max, nor assure no fender rub (tires rubbing against that arch while you turn the steering wheel to full lock). I think what you are looking for is the info in these last two sentences? Sorry if this is redundant info or is not clear. I've rewritten it a few times and still don't like my final draft. But I hope it might have helped even a little?
@@LV2PLA Got it chief and thank you for such a comprehensive response! I did some reading since yestarday and came across excatly the same feedback - lowering the car will not decrease shock travel length which means that if you keep softness setting on the same level comfort wise coilover will perform in the excatly the same way regardles of the height.
I looked at Tein's entry level products as well, which were slightly more expensive at the time (true definition there and not "Slightly = twice as much"). Reports on all the forums I follow seemed to split loyalty down the middle between BC Racing and Tein. It seemed those folks who did track days or didn't mind a much firmer everyday ride were in the Tein camp and called the BC Racing products cheap/poor quality; slight superiority complex for Tein and inferiority defensiveness from the BC Racing crowd. (I don't care personally since I'm not throwing stickers on my windows nor having people look under my wheel arches.) The Tein crowd also seemed more of the "continue to tinker" type which I think is very cool but don't personally have the time for anymore. The biggie I will admit regarding Tein is that they were the brand I read references to the whole "need to modify car/spring/etc..." thing that I never got a solid answer to; I cannot verify this either yea or nay. I don't know if this was/is true and don't want to spread misinformation, but can say that I never heard such an issue from any BC Racing report I found. And I will report here that our BC Racing coils were truly plug-and-play. Honestly my sense is that the Tein are a little more heavy duty, but I am completely satisfied with these BC Racing entry level models for my driving wants/needs. I don't think you can go wrong with either brand. I hope this helps!
It depends on what you want to do. I keep them at +5 clicks from soft for daily driving (eliminates the bouncing but doesn't compress my spine on every little bump in the road), and boost them up higher when I go canyon carving. So to answer your question of "Soft or Hard?" Yes!
What a great project and so rewarding . Go get a a laser geometry set up done and I bet it's better still.....I bet it's way off after all those years of use.....nice video again buddy
No no no! I considered the laser geometry route but thought it would be like going to the dentist: my teeth don't hurt so I don't want to know if I have cavities! :D
I went with the stock/suggested rates from the manufacturer (4k/7k I believe?) After driving them for many miles I will say that even at the softest setting they are stiff when compared to my sedan and SUV. But I'm ok with that since it's what I want out of a sports car!
They absolutely reduce body roll. Eliminate it? I don't know; the hardest I've gone is half-way (15 clicks) and it was as flat as Florida to me. At full stiff? My guess is "yes".
@@jamrockpower594 My favorite drive was Cascade Springs Scenic Byway, specifically going East to West (Midway to Alpine Loop). You must do that stretch!
@@LV2PLA U started with 15(you said), then you tryed the softest one.. Been a while now, have you tryed out any other than soft or middle? Any cons on this coils yet??
@@randomtoyotadude8952 I haven't gone stiffer than 15 yet - that's been plenty stiff for even my most spirited driving (and it definitely conveys the bumps to my 50+ year-old spine). For daily driving I leave them all the way at zero. Now that the weather is getting better I'll be driving the Spyder more so will try a few at 30 to report back. I am still 100% satisfied with these.
As cool as it looks driving with the top down, it would have been better to drive with the top on for a review video. Better audio vs view of a random hillside.
I wish it was sponsored! In fact - do tell me how I can make money off my videos; I pour a lot of time and effort into them. I'd love somebody else to pay me for my hobbies.
8:31 the Jim Carrey Riddler laugh of enjoyment. Definitely going to buy these after that emotional response.
Raw and unscripted; I wanted to make sure I captured my true, initial response.
I was hesitant to purchase it, but after seeing your video review, I had to get it. Got exactly the same one, THANKS for your review!
Let me know how they work out. I'm always curious to see other opinions!
Just an adult guy having fun, love it
great vid man 😁👍 your reactions to the new suspension pretty much sums up the beauty of driving an mr2 🤩 fun, fun, fun. love it
Thanks. Yes - I thought the MR2 was fun before, but after adding these... zut alors!
great video, happy to see you enjoying the mod. good stuff.
My wife thought I was watching porn.
LOL. I almost needed a cigarette after really pushing these things!
Beautiful review, I love your pure reaction. I was thinking about buying those BC RacIng BR Series for me BMW E36 as a replacement of my current basic coilovers. You totally convinced me dude!
Loved your video. We are probably the same age with similar views on our cars and their appropriate features for our age. I’ve been searching for reviews on BC BR coil overs and your direct explanations and more importantly your facial and verbal expressions while driving said it all to me. You have me convinced. Thank you! Btw I have 2021 Lexus IS 300.
I dig that Lexus now. Unfortunately, when I was looking for that exact type of vehicle the IS300 didn't look as good (much more striking now, whereas then it looked too much like a Corolla) so I went with a different brand. Call me petty if you want, but since my car is paid off now I'd rather not switch - even though I think the IS300 has looks to match how great a car it is!
@@LV2PLA it’s look has changed quite a bit with much better body lines. I agree to just continue to enjoy your car which looks great and just costs you the maintenance and any other mods you may consider.
You are the man bro I’m sure this video is old but your reaction says it all a real true convincing worth buying a must have thank you so much I’m on my way
You will enjoy them; I still do!
Entertaining video! Just got the bc’s myself and I love them, got ‘em set at 5 from max soft for utah roads but it’s fun to tighten em occasionally for canyon cruises. Love the car looks like big cotton too wonderful road 👍
BCC is a great drive when you only have time for a quickie. My absolute favorite was Cascade Springs Scenic Byway - specifically going from East to West (way more fun in that direction since the turns get longer and more sweeping as you progress that direction). My Grand Tour was up BCC, over Guardsman Pass, down Pine Canyon Road and through Midway, up Cascade Springs Byway, then over the Alpine Loop and down through American Fork Canyon. That is an epic drive! We left Utah 7 months ago so now I have to find new roads to carve. Oh well.
How smooth is the ride compared to stock suspension when you have it all the way soft I wanted to get one for my 03 Subaru wrx to race but I still want to be comfortable daily driving because I'll be doing that a lot more
Loved the video , you have helped make my mind up to buy some ....ps down in Australia
Awesome! Please do follow up and let me know what you think of them.
Mans was flying through them corners
Nice. Currently working on an Audi S4. Have the Engine out for the "timing chain grenade" fix. Required ripping the whole front end off down to the sub frame. I'm now thinking a set of coilovers are going in when putting it all back together rather than the stock suspension :-) Hope all is good on your end - keep the fun vids coming....
Brave man: the most expensive car on the road is a used Audi. We loved that S6 4.2L we owned, but in two years I dumped the same amount of $ into it that I paid for it, and THEN the tranny started slipping. Yes, we still suffer from Audi Lust, but I like having more than $20 in my bank account.
All good buddy! Audis are dope. Proud papa of an 01 and a 2012. Both 6MT #tmgps
Man if you slammed that no one would care how old you are driving that. they all would be like damn look at that slammed MRS sheeeeshhhh !
( *EDIT* )
im running these same coils on my 2zz 01 frog.. and i run mine pretty damn slammed.. and my settings are in the high (teens) on the clicks.. front is like 16-18 ish and i think i am around 20-22 in the rear for mine.. but i canyon carve mine. and im not worried about looking like a middle aged hipster lmao
i wish i got the "extra low" ones WITH the swift spring upgrade. cuz the stock 5/7 spring rate is a tad too soft for how low i am ( wanna go lower stance wise ) and i plan on going with aero as well..
anyways.. thanks for the vid ! i think i made a similar comment in your post on the fb spyder page as well..!
ALSO... if you think the steering got a lil "heavier" ... change the settings a lil softer up front then the rear ( since you want the car to be more comfortable and not really a "canyon carver" )..
try running them around 10-12f & 12-14 rear... ;)
I stiffen them up for Touge and canyon work, but I just can't do the Daily with a stiff ride. Middle age sucks, but there's nothing I can do about it. These have been a sweet compromise thus far. Have you cranked them all the way up? Sounds like you still have a little room to go.
@@LV2PLA i have yet to go full stiff.. i want to go with stiffer swift springs .. prob gonna do 7f / 10r or something around that.. cuz i plan on running aero and will need it for the added df !
Since your car is slammed Grace you ever looked into an s13 bumpsteer kit? Apparently it fits our cars and it works very well. Considering getting that for my kyb + tein setup before coilovers
Forgive me if I have missed this - when you got them to the softest setting how low was the actual height? I am thinking about getting a set of these not to slam the car but to make make a couple of inches lower. I'm just wondering if that OEM type suspension feel will remain if these coilovers will get slightly lowered. Great review btw!
The stiffness setting does nothing to the ride height, which remains constant. You have to set that height using wrenches (supplied with the coilovers); there are several videos out there showing the process involved. I cannot speak as to changes in feel with a slight height adjustment, but my guess is that it would not be immense compared to cranking the stiffness way up. I hope this helps!
@@LV2PLA What I was meant to say is that once you get the car lowered you reduce the amount of shock travel. If I am right then even the softest setting will (probably) feel a lot stiffer compared to the same "comfort setting" when shock is at highest position. That's why I asked if you have lowered the car significantly or not.
@@aleksandrk9452 not with bc due to the design
@@aleksandrk9452 Ah, now I think I understand. And please forgive me if my explanation is knowledge you already have. Lowering the car does not limit the shock travel in and of itself; the shock system will continue to flex to it's maximum compression unless it comes up against an external obstruction (i.e. the car frame). If you look at the shock in the video, you will see two chrome rings in the middle - one at the bottom of the spring coil and one at the top of the shoe footing. That gap between them is your height adjustment envelope (unless you want to pre-compress the springs further, which opens an entirely different dynamic). Basically you loosen the ring on the footing and and twist the footing itself up along that threaded shaft towards the spring (technically "raising" the wheel towards the spring and frame). Afterwards, the whole system will continue to function to its maximum envelope: turning the car will still deflect the outside downwards the same amount... unless you bottom out against the frame. In short, the springs and pistons don't "know" that the gap is at max or min. If I recall, these had like 2-3" of height adjustment and my wheel gap to the top of the fender arch from the top of the tire was 4". That doesn't mean I'd clear the internal frame if I lowered to the max, nor assure no fender rub (tires rubbing against that arch while you turn the steering wheel to full lock). I think what you are looking for is the info in these last two sentences?
Sorry if this is redundant info or is not clear. I've rewritten it a few times and still don't like my final draft. But I hope it might have helped even a little?
@@LV2PLA Got it chief and thank you for such a comprehensive response! I did some reading since yestarday and came across excatly the same feedback - lowering the car will not decrease shock travel length which means that if you keep softness setting on the same level comfort wise coilover will perform in the excatly the same way regardles of the height.
Did you consider any other makes of coilovers?
I looked at Tein's entry level products as well, which were slightly more expensive at the time (true definition there and not "Slightly = twice as much"). Reports on all the forums I follow seemed to split loyalty down the middle between BC Racing and Tein. It seemed those folks who did track days or didn't mind a much firmer everyday ride were in the Tein camp and called the BC Racing products cheap/poor quality; slight superiority complex for Tein and inferiority defensiveness from the BC Racing crowd. (I don't care personally since I'm not throwing stickers on my windows nor having people look under my wheel arches.) The Tein crowd also seemed more of the "continue to tinker" type which I think is very cool but don't personally have the time for anymore. The biggie I will admit regarding Tein is that they were the brand I read references to the whole "need to modify car/spring/etc..." thing that I never got a solid answer to; I cannot verify this either yea or nay. I don't know if this was/is true and don't want to spread misinformation, but can say that I never heard such an issue from any BC Racing report I found. And I will report here that our BC Racing coils were truly plug-and-play. Honestly my sense is that the Tein are a little more heavy duty, but I am completely satisfied with these BC Racing entry level models for my driving wants/needs. I don't think you can go wrong with either brand. I hope this helps!
What u think the best setting for the st then??? Soft or hard???
It depends on what you want to do. I keep them at +5 clicks from soft for daily driving (eliminates the bouncing but doesn't compress my spine on every little bump in the road), and boost them up higher when I go canyon carving. So to answer your question of "Soft or Hard?" Yes!
What a great project and so rewarding .
Go get a a laser geometry set up done and I bet it's better still.....I bet it's way off after all those years of use.....nice video again buddy
No no no! I considered the laser geometry route but thought it would be like going to the dentist: my teeth don't hurt so I don't want to know if I have cavities! :D
@@LV2PLA lol....funny.
But trust me....it will improve it
Not many manufacturers make coilovers for this car anymore.
Are you saying this is a good choice then?
What spring rate did order?
I went with the stock/suggested rates from the manufacturer (4k/7k I believe?) After driving them for many miles I will say that even at the softest setting they are stiff when compared to my sedan and SUV. But I'm ok with that since it's what I want out of a sports car!
Do they eliminate the body roll? Any other mods on?
They absolutely reduce body roll. Eliminate it? I don't know; the hardest I've gone is half-way (15 clicks) and it was as flat as Florida to me. At full stiff? My guess is "yes".
looks like your heading to Midway from Orem
Close. Big Cottonwood Canyon.
@@LV2PLA Just waiting for my BC to get here in the mail, gonna drive up to park city from SLC way then down the canyons to Orem to test them.
@@jamrockpower594 My favorite drive was Cascade Springs Scenic Byway, specifically going East to West (Midway to Alpine Loop). You must do that stretch!
Curious wat u had back ones set to ?
I set front and rears at the same number of clicks. Haven't tried mix-and-match yet.
@@LV2PLA
U started with 15(you said), then you tryed the softest one..
Been a while now, have you tryed out any other than soft or middle?
Any cons on this coils yet??
@@randomtoyotadude8952 I haven't gone stiffer than 15 yet - that's been plenty stiff for even my most spirited driving (and it definitely conveys the bumps to my 50+ year-old spine). For daily driving I leave them all the way at zero. Now that the weather is getting better I'll be driving the Spyder more so will try a few at 30 to report back. I am still 100% satisfied with these.
😅😅😅😅
As cool as it looks driving with the top down, it would have been better to drive with the top on for a review video. Better audio vs view of a random hillside.
so its secretly sponsored hence why he’s holding a coilover while his car is on the ground
I wish it was sponsored! In fact - do tell me how I can make money off my videos; I pour a lot of time and effort into them. I'd love somebody else to pay me for my hobbies.
Too bad you can’t dislike comments anymore @xankpc