Here I am watching as the prices are getting higher and is only the beginning, thank you for all your teaching, im understanding now what I didn't for many years, God be with us all.
Thank you ... so grateful for bold teaching that so closely matches my own beliefs but also expounds and reveals deeper knowledge and insight. I feel the labor pains getting stronger and closer together, and if u are a mother you know the most painful part is when the baby is about to be delivered, but oh when the struggle passes and you see your precious child knowing u took part in creating and bringing into this world , the joy and amazement is overwhelming. There has never been a more beautiful experience than this...I know we are headed for a time of trouble like never before, but I also know, like I do/have in giving birth, it is worth every bit of pain I might endure.
@@michaelhamby9309 indeed bro, such a blessing to find teaching so in depth, though it always needs testing:). Since discovering the feasts/Sabbath/Torah(going on 2 years now), I have a sense of relief, that Scripture actually makes sense, and am humbled by how little I actually know. Exciting times brother. Praise Yah!Bless ye mightily:)
Romans will be continued. We're just behind posting it. But, you can view the whole series on our website at TorahClass.com. Go to the heading "New to TorahClass?" George
Up until now my favourite interpretation of the 4 horsemen was that they represent the history of the gospel. It’s spread (Conquest), it’s rejected (War), because it’s rejected there is a famine (word of God is represented by the food), because of the famine of God’s word there is Death. I simplified here, but anyway i think the interpretation shown in this video is better.
Tom, Have you ever considered the "horse and rider" in Exodus 15:1-4 when trying to understand what God means by a "horse and rider" in Revelation 6? In Exodus 15 - Pharaoh and his Army are the "horse and rider" In Revelation 6: The Rider on the white horse - could have been GW Bush and the "War on Terror." The Rider on the Red horse could be Iran's Supreme Leader and World War 3 The Rider on the Black horse could be V Putin and a War on the USA
I have a question that I doubt can be answered - Revelation was the first book I read and received my first KJV Bible when age 9. I never had this question come up until just now ----- Why do you suppose our Lord gave to John the prophesies on Patmos? I mean for what purpose to the Church - I know its useless to second guess YHWH - I'm just musing as to why He just didn't do all the things prophesied. I guess I should ask HIM but He knows my little brain could not understand the answer.
Is the "Satanic Wrath of God" reference to God releasing Satan with permission to destroy? Not quite sure of this phrase, as I've never heard it before.
Here is the text of what Tom says where this idea is found: Maybe this will help. George "First let me say that a reasonable case could be made that the 4 horses of differing colors being sent out do not represent God's wrath, but rather is satanic wrath causing human evil to greatly increase. I lean that direction; it is undeniable that such is a possible understanding to keep in mind. Upon the first seal being broken one of the 4 living beings surrounding God's throne announces with a loud voice: "Go". This command to "go" brought forth a white horse and a rider who carried a bow, wore a crown, and together the horse and rider went out conquering. Following this 3 more horses with riders will be sent out, each one ordered, in turn, by 1 of the 4 living beings. These 4 horses and riders are known in literary and artistic circles as The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Quite interestingly the Bible scholar world is fairly equally divided on whether or not the rider on the white horse is to be identified as Christ, or as the antiChrist. This was not always the case. In my research into what the early Church Fathers thought about this, to a man they believed the white horse to be the Gospel and the rider to be Jesus. As for the other 3 horses and riders, most of the early Church Fathers saw them as sowers of evil and hardship; a harbinger of the coming of God's harsh hand of punishment and judgment. Good cases can be made for both sides of the debate; however for me the weight of evidence leans more strongly in one direction. Since John's visions are invariably about fulfilling the many Old Testament prophecies about the End Times and the Day of the Lord, then it is within the context of those prophecies that we should look for understanding. If the tone and context of those prophecies is entirely different than what we find in John's vision, then we have God using allegory to get His message across to John; something which I cannot accept . So in search of the most direct reference among the Prophets to the going out of 4 horses to wreak havoc on humanity, Bible scholars generally agree that it must be Zechariah 6.
The pre tribbulation or mid tribbulation can simply be proven a false doctrine that is proven false in Zachariah 13:7-9 there is no need for an argument with the spiritually dead sheeple just show them this in Zachariah 13:7-9 next case plz this false doctrine is proven to be dead.
Is he saying rapture then some still have a chance to be saved before the big return, if so it does not make sense. that is like a 2nd chance - I do not see it. we are saved through the time of Jacobs trouble, like Daniel in the lions den the 3 friends in the fiery furnace, and so on. the 1000 yeas is in heaven that is why it's satin enslaved - he is on earth with no one to influence. Also, Revelation is written in a chiastic structure.
DrPhu I think the big return is the rapture that occurs right before Gods wrath... I still have to see what more Mr Bradford teaches... not sure he is teaching two appearing , but one. I don’t see and really never have seen , in the Bible, any other description but that we are not appointed to wrath so we should all see him coming in the clouds and perhaps we war with him??? I believe he comes only one time all at one time.. when wrath is over, his kingdom is set upon the earth ...
DrPhu oh I see, yes I think there might be time to be saved , perhaps , not sure their hearts won’t be hardened , but all will see his coming , so not sure how that will all come out in the end🤔
@@girlinterrupted8356 Check our Walter Veith, historical facts and bible to prove bible sheach him and fine one on the end of time or revelation - Total Onslaught Series (of Jesus)
DrPhu found him.. good history on Catholic deception .. still listening to his other lectures/teachings. Not sure where his theology falls exactly, but I’m open to hearing him so far. Tom and Torah class have really great in-depth studies if you want to reach deeper into the history of the Jews and the true Word of God, not some packaged version that is dressed up to attract people rather than offend them by revealing our need of discipline and repentance. They preach/teach the whole word of God that demands more than a warm and fuzzy feeling...
The resurrection of the dead doesn't happen until the 7th trump which is called the day of the Lord thats wen the true rapture happens after the great tribbulation..my God its so simple to understand that even a 5 year old can understand it as it is written.
Here I am watching as the prices are getting higher and is only the beginning, thank you for all your teaching, im understanding now what I didn't for many years, God be with us all.
Thank you ... so grateful for bold teaching that so closely matches my own beliefs but also expounds and reveals deeper knowledge and insight. I feel the labor pains getting stronger and closer together, and if u are a mother you know the most painful part is when the baby is about to be delivered, but oh when the struggle passes and you see your precious child knowing u took part in creating and bringing into this world , the joy and amazement is overwhelming. There has never been a more beautiful experience than this...I know we are headed for a time of trouble like never before, but I also know, like I do/have in giving birth, it is worth every bit of pain I might endure.
Was just wondering if you'll put part 13 on here? Would like to watch in order if poss. Blessings:)
@@michaelhamby9309 Cheers bro, much appreciated, blessings:)
@@michaelhamby9309 indeed bro, such a blessing to find teaching so in depth, though it always needs testing:). Since discovering the feasts/Sabbath/Torah(going on 2 years now), I have a sense of relief, that Scripture actually makes sense, and am humbled by how little I actually know. Exciting times brother. Praise Yah!Bless ye mightily:)
Sorry about that guys, lesson 13 was on our channel but it wasn't in the Revelation playlist! It's all fixed now. :)
@@TorahClass no harm, no foul, you're all awesome. These teachings are brilliant. Blessings:)
Thank you for posting. When will Roman's be continued? Looking forward to the next Roman's class.
Romans will be continued. We're just behind posting it. But, you can view the whole series on our website at TorahClass.com. Go to the heading "New to TorahClass?"
George
Up until now my favourite interpretation of the 4 horsemen was that they represent the history of the gospel. It’s spread (Conquest), it’s rejected (War), because it’s rejected there is a famine (word of God is represented by the food), because of the famine of God’s word there is Death. I simplified here, but anyway i think the interpretation shown in this video is better.
Tom, Have you ever considered the "horse and rider" in Exodus 15:1-4
when trying to understand what God means by a "horse and rider" in Revelation 6?
In Exodus 15 - Pharaoh and his Army are the "horse and rider"
In Revelation 6:
The Rider on the white horse - could have been GW Bush and the "War on Terror."
The Rider on the Red horse could be Iran's Supreme Leader and World War 3
The Rider on the Black horse could be V Putin and a War on the USA
I have a question that I doubt can be answered - Revelation was the first book I read and received my first KJV Bible when age 9. I never had this question come up until just now ----- Why do you suppose our Lord gave to John the prophesies on Patmos? I mean for what purpose to the Church - I know its useless to second guess YHWH - I'm just musing as to why He just didn't do all the things prophesied. I guess I should ask HIM but He knows my little brain could not understand the answer.
John 14:29 comes to mind.
@@anahicks-mckenzie4614 ahh thank you Ann - although I have believed since I was 9 but good to have a reason.
@@imapatching09 😊
I found ROTH’s Aramaic New Testament take on the end of Chapter 5 an INTERESTING hypothesis……
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Is the "Satanic Wrath of God" reference to God releasing Satan with permission to destroy? Not quite sure of this phrase, as I've never heard it before.
Here is the text of what Tom says where this idea is found: Maybe this will help.
George
"First let me say that a reasonable case could be made that the 4 horses of
differing colors being sent out do not represent God's wrath, but rather is satanic wrath causing human evil to greatly increase. I lean that direction; it is undeniable that such is a possible understanding to keep in mind. Upon the first seal being broken one of the 4 living beings surrounding God's throne announces with a loud voice: "Go". This command to "go" brought forth a white horse and a rider who carried a bow, wore a crown, and together the horse and rider went out conquering. Following this 3 more horses with riders will be sent out, each one ordered, in turn, by 1 of the 4 living beings. These 4 horses and riders are known in literary and artistic circles as The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Quite interestingly the Bible scholar world is fairly equally divided on whether or not the rider on the white horse is to be identified as Christ, or as the antiChrist.
This was not always the case. In my research into what the early Church Fathers thought
about this, to a man they believed the white horse to be the Gospel and the rider to be Jesus. As for the other 3 horses and riders, most of the early Church Fathers saw them as sowers of evil and hardship; a harbinger of the coming of God's harsh hand of punishment and judgment. Good cases can be made for both sides of the debate; however for me the weight of evidence leans more strongly in one direction. Since John's visions are invariably about fulfilling the many Old Testament prophecies about the End Times and the Day of the Lord, then it is within the context of those prophecies that we should look for understanding. If the tone and context of those prophecies is entirely different than what we find in John's vision, then we have God using allegory to get His message across to John; something which I cannot accept . So in search of the most direct reference among the Prophets to the going out of 4 horses to wreak havoc on humanity, Bible scholars generally agree that it must be Zechariah 6.
Revelation chapter 5 has already taken place on September 18-19, 2001.
The Prophecy was fulfilled on Yom Teruah in heaven in Heaven.
Ok. I'll bite. What exactly are you referring too? I'm only finding anthrax mailings and AIDs awareness day.
It doesn’t seem to be Gods pattern to rapture or supernaturally which away His remnant. Only Elijah & Philip were supernaturally transported. ??????
The pre tribbulation or mid tribbulation can simply be proven a false doctrine that is proven false in Zachariah 13:7-9 there is no need for an argument with the spiritually dead sheeple just show them this in Zachariah 13:7-9 next case plz this false doctrine is proven to be dead.
Is he saying rapture then some still have a chance to be saved before the big return, if so it does not make sense. that is like a 2nd chance - I do not see it. we are saved through the time of Jacobs trouble, like Daniel in the lions den the 3 friends in the fiery furnace, and so on. the 1000 yeas is in heaven that is why it's satin enslaved - he is on earth with no one to influence. Also, Revelation is written in a chiastic structure.
DrPhu I think the big return is the rapture that occurs right before Gods wrath... I still have to see what more Mr Bradford teaches... not sure he is teaching two appearing , but one. I don’t see and really never have seen , in the Bible, any other description but that we are not appointed to wrath so we should all see him coming in the clouds and perhaps we war with him??? I believe he comes only one time all at one time.. when wrath is over, his kingdom is set upon the earth ...
DrPhu oh I see, yes I think there might be time to be saved , perhaps , not sure their hearts won’t be hardened , but all will see his coming , so not sure how that will all come out in the end🤔
@@girlinterrupted8356 Check our Walter Veith, historical facts and bible to prove bible sheach him and fine one on the end of time or revelation - Total Onslaught Series (of Jesus)
DrPhu found him.. good history on Catholic deception .. still listening to his other lectures/teachings. Not sure where his theology falls exactly, but I’m open to hearing him so far. Tom and Torah class have really great in-depth studies if you want to reach deeper into the history of the Jews and the true Word of God, not some packaged version that is dressed up to attract people rather than offend them by revealing our need of discipline and repentance. They preach/teach the whole word of God that demands more than a warm and fuzzy feeling...
@@girlinterrupted8356 - Oh just wait till you get to the good Stuff from Walter, I think you'll be blown away - since what you just said above.
The resurrection of the dead doesn't happen until the 7th trump which is called the day of the Lord thats wen the true rapture happens after the great tribbulation..my God its so simple to understand that even a 5 year old can understand it as it is written.