the song itself is actually really good, but the most disturbing part of the song is the unstated but unavoidable truth the skin is *actively alive* and not just human leather like i thought the title was implying
Jay Foreman is super talented! Between his jokey songs like this, and his performances of "Beatles songs but the lyrics are one syllable off", it really shows how casually he can do some very difficult things
i love 5/8 and 7/8 (and 5/4 and 7/4 and 10/8 and so on). i've heard people describe 3/4 as having something akin to momentum, with the unresolved expectation of a fourth beat carrying everything forward, and these odd time signatures do the same but to a greater extent and an unsteady feeling from not splitting in two nicely Tool use the mesmerising nature of 5/8 to great effect in songs like Vicarious and Rosetta Stoned
Irregular time signatures are amazing, you should check out math rock / math core if you want to hear more of them. For one of my compositions for my music exam the stimulus was to put it in a specific odd subdivision of 5/8 (1 + 3 + 1) and it really opened up my eyes (ears?) to how beautiful other time signatures can be.
@@cartlerother than common ones like 2/2, 2/4, 3/4, 3/8, 6/8, 9/8, and 12/8, the easiest ones are probably 5/4, 5/8, and 7/8. they'e basically just 3+2 and 2+4 respectively.
There's another rlly good song by him called where'd yoy get your food from grandma which isnt satisfying in that same way but it is still rlly satisfying in how he wrote it and stuff
Going to be rude, but now you've started you're going to have to do his whole catalogue. All his songs are baffilingly well made, really interesting harmonies and suprisingly skilled guitar work.
yeah he’s got insane musical skills and he’s also really good at talking about -public transit -politics -bridges -city planning -geography -maps -history
It feels so natural. If I ever try n make a song in an odd time signature it quickly ends up sounding like it's trying too hard/doesn't have any catchy melody. But this sounds just as intuitive as 4/4.
Never thought I'd see Jay Foreman on this channel, but I'm here for it! As a geography teacher who also happens to be somewhat musical, I'm a big fan of him! Love his Map Men and Unfinished London series on UA-cam (both of which I've used in lessons). He's fantastically talented.
It’s even crazier when you realise his brother is beatbox legend beardyman. Music clearly runs in the family. Also love the way that you can clearly hear tom scott laughing throughout
I think its the contrasting elements on the oxymoronic theme of singing and playing in a beautiful/funny way, while being grossly descriptive with the lyrics. Left me feeling quite conflicted.
I can't tell if you're saying that without knowing he is a musician or just joking, but if you didn't know then you do need to look up his songs bc there is some good shit
@@rocketman584 Because of the musical connection, I honestly didn't realize they were different people until it occurred to me there was absolutely no way one man could juggle so many high-quality endeavors at the same time. Edit: Genetics in that family must be exceptional and/or great parents
There was a moment in life where i kept listening to this song, for a long time, this and the puppet one, over and over, and a few more by him. Weird phase but ok.
With the title you gave I thought you were going to do his one-syllable-late songs. Thanks for doing these! Hopefully he makes another appearance on your channel.
Jay Foreman! He doesn't do many songs anymore since his documentaries are so successful, which is a shame (about the songs, not the documentaries), but he's great!
Wow, I listened to two of Jay Foremans songs 17 years ago (Moon Chavs and The Prcrastinator), and thought he was great. I didn't actually realise he was still going. Fair play, the guys got massive talent.
as a math-rock/math-rap alum i gotta say this is an impressively fluid way of playing in 5/4. if he hadn't said anything about the time signature i don't think i would've even thought to count out the beats per measure as it's just so natural.
Aw the title had me lookin forward to just an absolute mess of disjunct and dissonant harmonies over top of each other. Now I musically want to hear such a horrorshow. The closest I can think of is Sondheim's Epiphany
The Most Unwanted Music It's not exclusively dissonant harmonies, but there's a lot of that sort of thing... and bagpipes. And harps. And an operatic soprano cowboy rap.
The molody is so incredible, if only the lyrics weren't so incredibly horrible... Jay is so talented this song makes me want to vomit but I've been listening to it on repeat for at least an hour
In case your subconscious recognizes the fraternal familiarity, but you have yet to process it: Jay (of 'map men' fame) is the brother of Beardyman. (And now you'll never not see it.)
playing that on the guitar is hard ebough as is, try to sing at the same time makes it even worse. and then singing such a funny lyric and not cracking up is god tier. I'm reall impressed.
I mean I'd absolutely love if there were more of those songs. I've gotten pretty much all of my friends to listen to all of them, and I still come back to them on a semi-regular basis.
As a pretty inexperienced musician, I in fact did have quite a bit of fun counting along at home. It took me a while to shake out of registering it as 2 slow beats and then two quicker beats.
So super weird request. I love these notation videos but don’t know a think about music. This one really hit in an interesting way. Can anyone recommend other songs with this vibe in 5/8 time?
Sections of the Addams family musical are in a fast 5/4 or 5/8, eg in parts of when you're an Addams and the overture. It's also divided the same way (3+2)
Me, seeing the thumbnail: Oh, he looks like that guy from Map Men... Me, hearing him explaining the song and reading his name: okay, he definitely is that guy from Map Men.
Once you hear "Fucked by Elephants" by Torsofuck (yes, really, that's their name) your life won't ever be quite the same any more. It gave me actual physical nausea. Please, don't listen to it. Seriously!
I havent noticed until now (heard this song like 100 times) that the time signature turns to 6/8 for one bar on 'uhh its got a nipple'. Such a genius song
I did not expect a Jay Foreman x George Collier crossover, and I certainly would never have guessed what the song is about, but Jay is just too talented.
the song itself is actually really good, but the most disturbing part of the song is the unstated but unavoidable truth the skin is *actively alive* and not just human leather like i thought the title was implying
The ough ough ough part is... Apt
It has a nipple
They did explicitly state it’s alive when Mr. Foreman said “I don’t want to know what happens when it dies”
it’s grandma. he’s been sitting on grandma and is now selling her on ebay
Absolutely adore talented artists who choose specifically to use their skills for evil
Between Bill Bailey and Jay Foreman, I am beginning to feel like this is a growing group...
be careful with how you phrase that, please
@@Blue-Maned_Hawk ??? How else would it be interpreted?? I'm genuinely confused
@@donutholebandit6212 the term "evil" could be interpreted much more literally than i suspect you probably intend it
@Blue-Maned_Hawk I mean yeah... evil is a very general term, often used for hyperbole
I adore how good the melody actually is. The 5:8 time is mesmerizing.
Jay Foreman is super talented! Between his jokey songs like this, and his performances of "Beatles songs but the lyrics are one syllable off", it really shows how casually he can do some very difficult things
this has inspired me to write a song in something either than 4:4
i love 5/8 and 7/8 (and 5/4 and 7/4 and 10/8 and so on). i've heard people describe 3/4 as having something akin to momentum, with the unresolved expectation of a fourth beat carrying everything forward, and these odd time signatures do the same but to a greater extent and an unsteady feeling from not splitting in two nicely
Tool use the mesmerising nature of 5/8 to great effect in songs like Vicarious and Rosetta Stoned
Irregular time signatures are amazing, you should check out math rock / math core if you want to hear more of them.
For one of my compositions for my music exam the stimulus was to put it in a specific odd subdivision of 5/8 (1 + 3 + 1) and it really opened up my eyes (ears?) to how beautiful other time signatures can be.
@@cartlerother than common ones like 2/2, 2/4, 3/4, 3/8, 6/8, 9/8, and 12/8, the easiest ones are probably 5/4, 5/8, and 7/8. they'e basically just 3+2 and 2+4 respectively.
I've always thought this song is needlessly well written
This is the comment I was trying to write. "Needlessly Well Written" is exactly what I was feeling haha
came in with low expectations. was pleasantly surprised. a rare win for the pessimist.
NEEDLEssly well written
Most of Jay Foreman's stuff is. I highly recommend his channel and the Map Men series.
@@MudakTheMultiplier I second this - he's great and a really talented presenter as well as musician. Rare mix of knowledge, comedy and music!
dude his guitar accompaniment was so satisfying, especially when he'd harmonize to the vocals mid bridge, good shit
There's another rlly good song by him called where'd yoy get your food from grandma which isnt satisfying in that same way but it is still rlly satisfying in how he wrote it and stuff
@@kingeddiam2543 That one's satisfying because of top-tier mouth trumpet that devolves into laughter part way through a solo
dynamics is underrated
jay foreman is unironically an amazing musician
Runs in the family - his brother is beatboxing legend Beardyman, for those not aware!
Oh holy shit
@@neilomac lol i thought i was just watching a video of beardyman playing guitar
@@neilomac WHAT
Also ironically
This is unironically a banger. It's so well composed.
You should see his brother...
hope it doesn't decompose
@@undercatviper Lol thats Jay Foreman in the video not George Collier
@@leemsvg my point stands
@@leemsvg he obviously knew that, since he was pointing it out?
Going to be rude, but now you've started you're going to have to do his whole catalogue. All his songs are baffilingly well made, really interesting harmonies and suprisingly skilled guitar work.
*sigh* fuhh....
"The Day I Met Sooty" is so genuinely good.
_moar_
Wait 'till you see how good he is at edutainment videos about geography, transit, politics, and city planning
Steeeeeeaaaaliiiing
food, stealing food, stealing food food food.
dude why is he actually an insane guitarist tho... like that ain't an easy piece my guy
His brother is also stupidly talented
and with those rithms it's particularly hard to sing
Jay Foreman is wildly under-appreciated just like in general
yeah he’s got insane musical skills and he’s also really good at talking about
-public transit
-politics
-bridges
-city planning
-geography
-maps
-history
1:11 That harmonization is so unbelievably beautiful
Yes I love Jay Foreman!
Ol' good Jay Fore "Skinsofa" Man! Sorry I love bad puns, hope he likes them too :)
I'm so obsessed with the rhythm. we need to normalize weird time signatures it really changes everything
It feels so natural. If I ever try n make a song in an odd time signature it quickly ends up sounding like it's trying too hard/doesn't have any catchy melody. But this sounds just as intuitive as 4/4.
Please no
Try balkan music, they often use 7 or 9. Kaval sviri from balkan ethno orchestra is pretty cool, its in 9/4.
We have normalised it, we call it prog metal 😁
if we "normalize" a "weird" time signature it won't be "weird" anymore. Instead can we "normalize" stop trying to "normalize" everything yaasss
The best moments on UA-cam: When two of your favourite channels unexpectedly come together.
Never thought I'd see Jay Foreman on this channel, but I'm here for it! As a geography teacher who also happens to be somewhat musical, I'm a big fan of him! Love his Map Men and Unfinished London series on UA-cam (both of which I've used in lessons). He's fantastically talented.
the world is in dire need of more jay foreman transcriptions!
Stealing Food next plzkthxbai
The bim bim bim song!
🌏 needs more 🎶
It’s even crazier when you realise his brother is beatbox legend beardyman. Music clearly runs in the family. Also love the way that you can clearly hear tom scott laughing throughout
Is it Tom Scott filming?
@@humblenoob7631yes
No way they're siblings!!!
@@QuirkyCarmi way
What an unfortunate song to get stuck in my head
Skin sofa, skin sofa,
Eurgh eurgh eurgh eurgh
Eurgh eurgh eurgh eurgh
Eurgh !
I think its the contrasting elements on the oxymoronic theme of singing and playing in a beautiful/funny way, while being grossly descriptive with the lyrics. Left me feeling quite conflicted.
This is stunningly well written and performed
it's difficult to perform either part of this arrangement, let alone both at once. This guy has it
With any other lyrics, this would be an international hit lol
Or would be in the 70s. Major Simon & Garfunkel vibes
this song has such a nice chord progression
[walking down a street, ignoring pedestrians] "It's time we talked about the Skin Sofas of London, and how they happened."
Now do his masterpiece: "Map Men Map Men....."
That's 5 seconds long
Map Map Map Men! men
men
Men
men
Last place I expected that guy from the map videos to show up.
I can't tell if you're saying that without knowing he is a musician or just joking, but if you didn't know then you do need to look up his songs bc there is some good shit
Map Men
@@xuko6792 map men
God I love weird time signatures, and the way this song just seems to have a push behind it is exactly why
I've listened to this one for years xD Jay Foreman is fantastic, so is his brother Beardyman!
Wow, I had no idea they were brothers.
Ah, thought they looked alike
@@rocketman584 Because of the musical connection, I honestly didn't realize they were different people until it occurred to me there was absolutely no way one man could juggle so many high-quality endeavors at the same time.
Edit: Genetics in that family must be exceptional and/or great parents
I never knew they were brothers. Love them both. Makes so much sense
These videos come on during or after my band class. couldn’t be better timing; thx George!
Skin sofa and bim bim bim bim are two of the greatest bangers ever written
Bim bim bim bi-bim *BOM*
I actually love the fact that every "fa" in the lyrics is sung in fa pitch
Can you elaborate?
@@samueldaniels8415 Every time he sings "sofa", the corresponding notes are "so" and "fa" of the solfege scale (the do-re-mi-fa-so thing)
@@CrazyUncleSam24 Oh, how could I forget about that. I even used it when I was younger.
Nice detail
@@CrazyUncleSam24 Actually "so" in sofa is not so(l) in pitch, it's do
So glad to see Jay Foreman here. He really is a great musician, and a great lyricist. I wish he would put out more music
He is so underrated musically, despite the funny/silly topics for most of his songs he’s so talented!
Naw the *eurgh* part had me dying. Never knew you could harmonize with disgust!
Finally, an accurate depiction of an Dark Eldar houseware salesperson. (even the 5/8 beat is appropo)
There was a moment in life where i kept listening to this song, for a long time, this and the puppet one, over and over, and a few more by him. Weird phase but ok.
Oh and the "when i'm alone" one, and the one with grandma's unbranded food... they're all bangers
I cry each and every time when I listen to "the puppet one", and I still don't know whether it's from sadness or from laughter.
For me it was the Potato song!
It definitely was a weird phase of my life
which one's the puppet one?
@@fawfulBeans "the day i met sooty"
Wow, just WOW!! It is like nothing I've heard before and the talented guitar/vocals with 5/8? Stellar performance
And next as a treat just transcribe the Map Men Map Men Map Map Map Men Men Men intro
With the title you gave I thought you were going to do his one-syllable-late songs. Thanks for doing these! Hopefully he makes another appearance on your channel.
Jay Foreman! He doesn't do many songs anymore since his documentaries are so successful, which is a shame (about the songs, not the documentaries), but he's great!
Wow, I listened to two of Jay Foremans songs 17 years ago (Moon Chavs and The Prcrastinator), and thought he was great. I didn't actually realise he was still going. Fair play, the guys got massive talent.
I genuinely cannot stop counting the 5 out. Been loving this song for years.
as a math-rock/math-rap alum i gotta say this is an impressively fluid way of playing in 5/4. if he hadn't said anything about the time signature i don't think i would've even thought to count out the beats per measure as it's just so natural.
This song finally getting the acknowledgement it deserves, Jay is an amazing artist
Aw the title had me lookin forward to just an absolute mess of disjunct and dissonant harmonies over top of each other. Now I musically want to hear such a horrorshow. The closest I can think of is Sondheim's Epiphany
The Most Unwanted Music
It's not exclusively dissonant harmonies, but there's a lot of that sort of thing... and bagpipes. And harps. And an operatic soprano cowboy rap.
8 songs for a mad king
Imperial guard describing the sofa he got from a drukhari.
The molody is so incredible, if only the lyrics weren't so incredibly horrible... Jay is so talented this song makes me want to vomit but I've been listening to it on repeat for at least an hour
OH so that's why I recognize him... he's the map men guy
In case your subconscious recognizes the fraternal familiarity, but you have yet to process it: Jay (of 'map men' fame) is the brother of Beardyman.
(And now you'll never not see it.)
Thank you
who's beardyman
@@dliessmgg jay foreman's brother
Jay Foreman! His youtube channel is incredible!
Omg his guitar skills are so incredibly good what the hell
math rock fans: the rhythm is too normal
Oh my God I've been watching this for ages, I'm so glad you did a transcription of it!
1:10 the harmonization is peak bruh
playing that on the guitar is hard ebough as is, try to sing at the same time makes it even worse. and then singing such a funny lyric and not cracking up is god tier. I'm reall impressed.
Cannibal Corpse should do a cover of that song.
It delights me that both Jay Foreman and his brother Beardyman have been featured on this channel now.
I can't imagine trying to sing and play this this at the same time...
Definitely grotesque.
5/8 is now my favourite
I mean I'd absolutely love if there were more of those songs. I've gotten pretty much all of my friends to listen to all of them, and I still come back to them on a semi-regular basis.
I've discovered Jay Foreman songs because of this video. And now I've come here to say this to you: Thank you!
More Jay Foreman!!! Underrated musical comedian/comedy musician :))
As a pretty inexperienced musician, I in fact did have quite a bit of fun counting along at home. It took me a while to shake out of registering it as 2 slow beats and then two quicker beats.
Jay..?? The map man himself. Was not expecting this, but a welcome surprise.
It blew me away when I learned that this guy was Beardyman's brother. Not as in "he is the brother to" but as in "they made two of those? Faaak".
Never felt more compassion for a sofa before, its a creature
I love that guy! Too bad he's not on music streaming platforms. Never even properly recorded his hits I think. Makes me sad.
You've got to do the one about the potato
This is why you never buy furniture from a Tzimisce.
UV light doesn't travel through normal glass so your skin-couch can't get a sunburn inside the house thankfully.
True, but it'll still get very sweaty between the cushions.
So super weird request. I love these notation videos but don’t know a think about music. This one really hit in an interesting way. Can anyone recommend other songs with this vibe in 5/8 time?
Closure by Taylor swift is 5/8 and has a similar rhythm swaying motion
@@blumenmusic yeah and Tolerate it from the same album is 10/8 i think?
Not 5/8 but obligatory "Take 5" mention
Sections of the Addams family musical are in a fast 5/4 or 5/8, eg in parts of when you're an Addams and the overture. It's also divided the same way (3+2)
Confessions Part II by BADBADNOTGOOD (ft. Colin Stetson) is one of my favorite 5/8 songs!
Song has no right going as hard as it does
I really need to listen more to 5/8, 7/8 and other odd time signature
That take on 5/8 sounds so good!
I hate when all my music that I write very seriously all turns out shit and then the real artists come in here with bangers
Me, seeing the thumbnail: Oh, he looks like that guy from Map Men...
Me, hearing him explaining the song and reading his name: okay, he definitely is that guy from Map Men.
"is this what musical gore sounds like"
Um, there's like 8 subgenres of metal I need to introduce you to.
Once you hear "Fucked by Elephants" by Torsofuck (yes, really, that's their name) your life won't ever be quite the same any more. It gave me actual physical nausea.
Please, don't listen to it. Seriously!
And also this song is about body horror, not gore.
i love the panic in "oh it's got a nipple"
I havent noticed until now (heard this song like 100 times) that the time signature turns to 6/8 for one bar on 'uhh its got a nipple'. Such a genius song
Jay foreman is one of the funniest people I know in a very niche community
i didnt even realize this was uploaded by george i thought it was just the jay foreman video
*george
@@molybd3num823 shit yeah george
I was like "yo this guy looks a lot like beardyman, it's uncanny."
turns out it's Beardymans brother lmfao.
Jay Foreman is the new version of Tom Lehrer. Absolutely love him.
Why is the most knowledgeable person on London infrastructure singing to me about a... sofa.
Every 3 second interval would have to be practiced so many times haha.
"Just to fuck with you I put it in 5:8 time." It's fantastic that he worked out a really good melody in an awkward time signature for this.
Melody and voice is really good surprisingly for what you are actually singing about 😂
i was excited thinking that Jay had uploaded a new song but it's just skin sofa again
wait until whoever made this video title hears about Goregrind (or Grindgore, depending on your scene) or other Grindcore related genres
I didn’t get the joke until I realized that skin and leather are different things in english
Hey george, my vote for the next one is that dude who performed the entirety of free bird on a harmonica better than most electric guitarists.
the crossover we all needed
Everyone is a better person for knowing Jay Foreman and his videos. Just pick a series and soon you'll have seen all of them.
so good i had to immediately replay whatever this is
You should def transpose "Caterpillar Sick" next. Absolute banger
This is one of the greatest melodies I've ever heard in my life. And this guy's a comedian?!
I thought it would be a sofa made of the skin of dead people. This is somehow way worse
I did not expect a Jay Foreman x George Collier crossover, and I certainly would never have guessed what the song is about, but Jay is just too talented.
Bar 45 though. Delightful.
Saw the skull in the thumbnail and thought it was an easter egg. Glad to see it's just an actual part of the set.
I just realized this is Jay from Map Men