Al suffers from Kirk’s constant college takes and Prime pumping in way too many ad breaks. There was a change of possession less than 30 seconds before the end of the 1st quarter and we got 2 extended breaks with one play in between.
One of the best experiences I had was during covid calling games on a live stream and was great at it.....this would be my dream job. That said, here are my rankings after being able to listen to all of these groups many of times over the years. Full disclosure I've played madden since eddie george was on the cover and the last few years of Charles Davis has maybe jaded my opinion as I feel like sometimes during real games, he is recording sound bits for madden: 1. Troy & Joe (ESPN) 2. Mike & Chris (Mike is the best play by play in the league....imagine Mike with Greg....or Tom) 3. Kevin & Trent 4. Jim & Tony 5. Joe &Greg 6. Kevin & Tom 7. Adam & Mark 8. Ian & Charles 9. Al & Krik (Kirk is terrible and Al seems like he is ready for bed by half time) The Top 2 Dream Teams: 1. NBC Production with Mike Tirico & Tom Brady. 2. ESPN Production with Joe Buck & Troy Aikman....and bring back the ménage à trois with Greg Olsen.
It's befitting to have Andrew on this very important episode! Bonkerz wildcard moment of the ep: Orr having Amin and Sanchez at #1, haha. But having an announcer talk to the audience like there's a clipboard in his hand is what I enjoyed so much about the Olympics announcer for ping pong despite not caring much for ping pong. Dan's announcer tastes seem to be about recapturing a feeling of being 8 years old and staying up a little later than usual to watch a Monday night game on the couch with dad. So I don't agree with a lot of them but I appreciate that kind of feeling. I do like when Michaels doesn't give a damn during a game but Herbstreet's analysis is either this guy is great or this guy is learning and will soon be great and every game, multiple times, neither one of them mentions something interesting happening on the field. I think Quiet Storm and Orr are right about the Sunday night duo. Tirico comes across as a very simple and content man, which is terrific for his blood pressure, but means he doesn't have much to add outside of the on field play-by-play and Collinsworth with his golf metaphors is just a couple of steps above smugly insufferable. I'm the opposite of Andrew (and I guess most other folks) in wanting coverage focused on the star players. Game after game the same "analysis", remarks, and gushing praise are repeated and very quickly it gets very boring. I like learning about all of the players on the team and about the lesser mentioned positions. If Tom Brady, who I find kind of dull, wants to talk about the adjustments made by the tight end rather than the pass thrown by Mahomes then that's fine. I promise there will be plenty of more times to talk about the Chiefs star QB. Also, it's almost unbelievable to hear about the meetings and prep that color commentators go through just so most of them on Sunday can deliver streams of the most repetitive, uninteresting dialogue in the history of english language broadcasting. I never realized how much work went into such an achievement. This comment of mine is too long.
Dionysus is the Greek god of wine who was also known as Bacchus, which is the name the copycat Romans gave their equivalent wine god. Bacchus is also an indie comic by Eddie Campbell where the god barhops and struggles living in the 20th century and it reads very much like something Wess might've appreciated.
LOVED this episode. SO funny the whole way. You're gold being you Connor! Why did no one talk about how God awful Kirk Herbstreit is? The chemistry between him and Al is non-existant. Looks like neither of them want to be where they are.
Excellent segments. Thanks much. I would, however, argue the marriage between Matthew Stafford and Sean McVay is most likely over. This year's weird off season with the salary issue to go with the lingering nagging injuries of Stafford and so many players through camp showed how fragile the relationship is at this stage, especially since this team has not looked prepared to win since the week following the Lions game. Who do you think Sean McVay hates losing to more? Kyle Shanahan? Matt LaFleur? Or, Jared Goff? McVay has had trouble with the 49ers & Shanahan, but has never beaten Green Bay with LaFleur as their coach. The Rams have lost 5 straight to the Packers under Matt LaFleur. McVay, Stafford and a forgotten backup QB have yet to beat Green Bay in four tries from 2021-2024. The Lions with Goff have gone 4-2 in 6 contests in that period. Side note. Jared Goff, in 2018, is the only Rams QB to beat the Packers since Brett Favre was under center in 2006. You have to think that losing to Goff the last two times the Rams & Lions have met has been brutal psychologically for both McVay and Stafford. Goff now is MVP material while the Rams struggle with a broken roster two losses away from good night 2024 season. The reports from Mike Florio, and some young guy named Jack Settleman, that the Vikings and Rams are in discussions to move #9 to Minnesota sound like Stafford's agent on the prowl again, just like in 2020. I can't see how this sits well with Sean McVay who I think still hopes to win this season.
10:00 was that a party down reference “are we having fun yet!?” That’s a realllyy specific line to the show. I don’t know anyone that’s ever seen that show lol
Is directly serious does he think we like hearing just a few qb stars being glazed on every play what's Brady gonna say about mahomes that Romo or collinsworth said And who has a problem with te Noah gray getting some love ANYONE WANTS TO HEAR MORE ABOUT MAHOMES unless maybe you are so little youre just becoming conscious or not an actual fan. I wanna hear tb talk about all players on roster he don't have to mention the qb even once ever again and Itd be definitely not a loss.
I guess my hot take is I dont care for Buck and Aikman I am always bummed out when Manningcast isnt available Otherwise I only dislike Brady, Vilma. Feely. Herbstreet Most are fine, Harlan is god-tier play by play, needs better than Trent Green Tirico I have enjoyed going back to ESPN fantastic, hopefully he will get paired with a better cohost
@36:45 The Collingsworth Beanie Baby moment had me and my wife laughing out of confusion. Like, is this dude ok? Someone should go check on him. Also, Al Micheals might be getting a hair to grumpy and disinterested with his games. I'm with Connor - Aikman/Buck are my least favorite. It's generic, and they're voices just run together. Monotonous. I wish there was a reliable way to put your team's radio coverage over the broadcast.
Disagree on Brady. Any JAG can get in the booth and say “Isn’t Mahomes wonderful.” That’s how Nick Wright makes a living. The benefit of someone like Brady is he can bring another depth of analysis and point out what’s normally overlooked in team success.
No way sorry but no matter wholesome and competent Tirico is, he cant carry the obnoxiousness and cringe that excudes from Collinsworth. I can stomach Brady and give him the benefit of the doubt for having training wheels on, but Collinsworth's insufferableness is as potent as a Long Island Ice tea
Collinsworth enjoys waxing poetic about his favorite players and teams to no end, even if they play ass on that day. Watching him commenting on AR, PM or some other is unwatchable...
Booth Power Rankings: I can not listen to Charles Davis. He asks questions of Eagle like: "Do you know who this defense reminds me of?" Eagle blank. Davis, "Rommel, the WWII general." What? Is that better or worse than the Mary Tyler Moore reference? Davis makes these obscure references constantly. "You know my comparison for Joe Burrow?" Eagle blank. "Wayne Gretzky..." WTF? Davis described a RB using his hand to extend a run by a yard as "levitating." Levitating, really? Please.
Can we trade Kyle Shanahan for something less like The Divine Comedy pls? This purgatorious existence of being second place and calling it success is exhausting.
@didgruntleddansnyderfan Feels like we are stuck in a death spiral. Literally waiting, it's just time, until Kyle takes us back to the game, only to horribly choke a massive lead away, most likely to Reid. Although Flores or Schultz could also do the job. So many niner fans are happy with this, but damn, runner up is nowhere. A change is surely needed.
@@DamonClarke-g1f Yes. The only problem is that change when you're perpetually #2 out of 32 is almost guaranteed to be change for the worse. If you ask me you need to upgrade your training staff or something. Maybe some survival training for your players? You're just always injured! The Chiefs are too, but they're like the world's greatest minimalists or something over there with Reid and Mahomes, and you're just not. Maybe you're too top heavy? An NFL season is, among other things, a test of depth, and you always seem to drop off when you get injuries. Too much, I mean. You're always going to have some drop off. But you should stilll be able to keep winning if you want a chip.
@didgruntleddansnyderfan This is true sometimes you need to move backwards to progress again. But imagine by some miracle this season the Niners make it to the SB and they play the Chiefs. We all know how it would go. Despite leading, dominating even at times, we would lose. I cant deal with that again.
@@DamonClarke-g1f No, it certainly is a bit of a1990s Buffalo Bills sit you've got going on. But the actual problem is that Mahomes + Reid are just too good. You really don't stand much of a chance with Purdy at QB. I like him, but let's just be real here: He isn't on the same level. And I think maybe you need to be, and even then it's not guaranteed. Ask the rest of the AFC how they feel. I had a bit of a chinwag with someone last night when I was trying to think of an AFC team that had actually beaten Mahomes in the playoffs, and I could only remember Burrow doing it once. I was then reminded that Tom Brady and Justin Herbert had also managed it once each. But that's three wins in approaching a decade. And one of them seems to have regressed out of competition and the other one has become a talking head due to extreme old age. Only Burrow is left, and he's struggled to repeat the feat. So it's not just the 49ers. And it's still better to play in Super Bowls than not to. Again, look at the Panthers...
They’re great when you don’t have a direct rooting interest. I don’t enjoy hearing them get into the weeds when I’m trying to follow the continuity of the game closely
Dan-turn down your light, you are glowing like a neon sign I don't think you want that LOL...also like Mark I did a chuck an empty soda bottle across the room in a studio class back in college and got a classmate in the head just as she was walking across the floor to someone. I felt so stupid and since I already didn't like her it seemed intentional.
I would feel much better about space alien Tom Brady as a $340 million announcer if he was allowed/inclined to be honest and not pretending to be impressed by a 54% completion rate Dak Prescott and things. Keep it real or don't bother. Probably an unrealitstic ask of the media, but I really must insist.
Tirico is great, Collingsworth sucks sweaty donkeyballs! Remove him and add a really good sidekick to Tirico and that would potentially be the best team in the booth! Agree fully with Connor, I hate Buck and Aikman!
“First off, sorry for whatever happened to you in high school” 😂😂
Orr should be on as often as Shook was
SO good 🤣
34:58 Oh my god the “Justin has been an asset to us, man” sound drop is so perfect
Kevin Harlan is # 1 hands down
100% agree
I 101% agree
I'm probably biased because we get a lot of Harlan games in the UK, but Dan having him at #9 is a hate crime.
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Darcy taking a big shot in the high school cafeteria! Dropped by an apple from The Quiet Storm!
Love the show!
Al suffers from Kirk’s constant college takes and Prime pumping in way too many ad breaks.
There was a change of possession less than 30 seconds before the end of the 1st quarter and we got 2 extended breaks with one play in between.
36:54 oh man Conor's Collinsworth impression got me 😂💀
Never leave me again boys. I need you
Heedin' it in a sunny ,a bit cold morning , Serbia \o/
Same here from a sunny and a bit cold Sweden o/
That was a fun, jaunty song from Sam Stringfield (sp?)! These Orr themes have been impressively varied and great.
Booth power ratings was amazing
Any news on merchandise I'd love a heed the call hat
Love the sonic youth reference from Connor
I almost feel bad for Connor after the Announcer Ratings. It was all deserved, but brutal. Lol
One of the best experiences I had was during covid calling games on a live stream and was great at it.....this would be my dream job. That said, here are my rankings after being able to listen to all of these groups many of times over the years. Full disclosure I've played madden since eddie george was on the cover and the last few years of Charles Davis has maybe jaded my opinion as I feel like sometimes during real games, he is recording sound bits for madden:
1. Troy & Joe (ESPN)
2. Mike & Chris (Mike is the best play by play in the league....imagine Mike with Greg....or Tom)
3. Kevin & Trent
4. Jim & Tony
5. Joe &Greg
6. Kevin & Tom
7. Adam & Mark
8. Ian & Charles
9. Al & Krik (Kirk is terrible and Al seems like he is ready for bed by half time)
The Top 2 Dream Teams:
1. NBC Production with Mike Tirico & Tom Brady.
2. ESPN Production with Joe Buck & Troy Aikman....and bring back the ménage à trois with Greg Olsen.
The greatness of Tirico outweighs the weirdness of Collinsworth for me. Mike has covered a lot of big sports events and always been great
Conor lost me with the raiders brought me back with the Joe & Aikman. He’s right. I truly don’t understand why media love them so much.
It's befitting to have Andrew on this very important episode!
Bonkerz wildcard moment of the ep: Orr having Amin and Sanchez at #1, haha. But having an announcer talk to the audience like there's a clipboard in his hand is what I enjoyed so much about the Olympics announcer for ping pong despite not caring much for ping pong.
Dan's announcer tastes seem to be about recapturing a feeling of being 8 years old and staying up a little later than usual to watch a Monday night game on the couch with dad. So I don't agree with a lot of them but I appreciate that kind of feeling. I do like when Michaels doesn't give a damn during a game but Herbstreet's analysis is either this guy is great or this guy is learning and will soon be great and every game, multiple times, neither one of them mentions something interesting happening on the field. I think Quiet Storm and Orr are right about the Sunday night duo. Tirico comes across as a very simple and content man, which is terrific for his blood pressure, but means he doesn't have much to add outside of the on field play-by-play and Collinsworth with his golf metaphors is just a couple of steps above smugly insufferable.
I'm the opposite of Andrew (and I guess most other folks) in wanting coverage focused on the star players. Game after game the same "analysis", remarks, and gushing praise are repeated and very quickly it gets very boring. I like learning about all of the players on the team and about the lesser mentioned positions. If Tom Brady, who I find kind of dull, wants to talk about the adjustments made by the tight end rather than the pass thrown by Mahomes then that's fine. I promise there will be plenty of more times to talk about the Chiefs star QB. Also, it's almost unbelievable to hear about the meetings and prep that color commentators go through just so most of them on Sunday can deliver streams of the most repetitive, uninteresting dialogue in the history of english language broadcasting. I never realized how much work went into such an achievement. This comment of mine is too long.
Dionysus is the Greek god of wine who was also known as Bacchus, which is the name the copycat Romans gave their equivalent wine god. Bacchus is also an indie comic by Eddie Campbell where the god barhops and struggles living in the 20th century and it reads very much like something Wess might've appreciated.
Heeding the Athletic “Gravedigger” article
Heeding the call 🇦🇺
Heeding with big droopy ones . Great job fellow boulder holders 🫡
Connors take on buck and Aikman legitimately makes me think less of him as a man
Heedin with the boys
My wife agrees with Conor on Buck. She thinks he’s a condescending jerk.
HEED THE CALL
LOVED this episode. SO funny the whole way. You're gold being you Connor!
Why did no one talk about how God awful Kirk Herbstreit is? The chemistry between him and Al is non-existant. Looks like neither of them want to be where they are.
Kevin Harlan can't be that low come on. One of the best doing it imo.
You need a variety of opinions so I appreciate Connors take
Excellent segments. Thanks much. I would, however, argue the marriage between Matthew Stafford and Sean McVay is most likely over. This year's weird off season with the salary issue to go with the lingering nagging injuries of Stafford and so many players through camp showed how fragile the relationship is at this stage, especially since this team has not looked prepared to win since the week following the Lions game. Who do you think Sean McVay hates losing to more? Kyle Shanahan? Matt LaFleur? Or, Jared Goff? McVay has had trouble with the 49ers & Shanahan, but has never beaten Green Bay with LaFleur as their coach. The Rams have lost 5 straight to the Packers under Matt LaFleur. McVay, Stafford and a forgotten backup QB have yet to beat Green Bay in four tries from 2021-2024. The Lions with Goff have gone 4-2 in 6 contests in that period. Side note. Jared Goff, in 2018, is the only Rams QB to beat the Packers since Brett Favre was under center in 2006. You have to think that losing to Goff the last two times the Rams & Lions have met has been brutal psychologically for both McVay and Stafford. Goff now is MVP material while the Rams struggle with a broken roster two losses away from good night 2024 season. The reports from Mike Florio, and some young guy named Jack Settleman, that the Vikings and Rams are in discussions to move #9 to Minnesota sound like Stafford's agent on the prowl again, just like in 2020. I can't see how this sits well with Sean McVay who I think still hopes to win this season.
Heed the call
Sounding like David Berman on this conor Orr theme
I like that 3-4 years ago, Andrew MarchAND told Dan how to pronounce his name and he struggles to this day to remember the correct pronunciation.
I love this show!
Bacchus is the Roman god Dan was searching for
Although Dionysus is also correct. Depends if you want to go Greek or Roman
10:00 was that a party down reference “are we having fun yet!?” That’s a realllyy specific line to the show. I don’t know anyone that’s ever seen that show lol
This one's for John
It's insane to me how much these announcers get paid, since I and most people I know prefer to watch football on mute.
Is directly serious does he think we like hearing just a few qb stars being glazed on every play what's Brady gonna say about mahomes that Romo or collinsworth said And who has a problem with te Noah gray getting some love ANYONE WANTS TO HEAR MORE ABOUT MAHOMES unless maybe you are so little youre just becoming conscious or not an actual fan. I wanna hear tb talk about all players on roster he don't have to mention the qb even once ever again and Itd be definitely not a loss.
Wad up Marc "wit a C"
Connor absolutely botched the rankings haha. Serious tumble down the common man rankings.
I guess my hot take is I dont care for Buck and Aikman
I am always bummed out when Manningcast isnt available
Otherwise I only dislike
Brady, Vilma. Feely. Herbstreet
Most are fine, Harlan is god-tier play by play, needs better than Trent Green
Tirico I have enjoyed going back to ESPN fantastic, hopefully he will get paired with a better cohost
@36:45 The Collingsworth Beanie Baby moment had me and my wife laughing out of confusion. Like, is this dude ok? Someone should go check on him.
Also, Al Micheals might be getting a hair to grumpy and disinterested with his games.
I'm with Connor - Aikman/Buck are my least favorite. It's generic, and they're voices just run together. Monotonous.
I wish there was a reliable way to put your team's radio coverage over the broadcast.
Disagree on Brady. Any JAG can get in the booth and say “Isn’t Mahomes wonderful.” That’s how Nick Wright makes a living.
The benefit of someone like Brady is he can bring another depth of analysis and point out what’s normally overlooked in team success.
1:01:50 they are cool shades
I agree with Conor, 9 is low but mainly Joe Buck gives an "I'm so much better than you" cocky vibe that I don't like.
Mark I fully agree with you collinsworth annoys me every single time I watch snf just surprised they weren't unanimously #9
No way sorry but no matter wholesome and competent Tirico is, he cant carry the obnoxiousness and cringe that excudes from Collinsworth. I can stomach Brady and give him the benefit of the doubt for having training wheels on, but Collinsworth's insufferableness is as potent as a Long Island Ice tea
Collinsworth enjoys waxing poetic about his favorite players and teams to no end, even if they play ass on that day. Watching him commenting on AR, PM or some other is unwatchable...
Booth Power Rankings: I can not listen to Charles Davis. He asks questions of Eagle like: "Do you know who this defense reminds me of?" Eagle blank. Davis, "Rommel, the WWII general." What? Is that better or worse than the Mary Tyler Moore reference?
Davis makes these obscure references constantly.
"You know my comparison for Joe Burrow?" Eagle blank. "Wayne Gretzky..." WTF?
Davis described a RB using his hand to extend a run by a yard as "levitating." Levitating, really? Please.
coulda sworn something else was happening on Nov 5th this year...hmm. Well never mind
no one wants to hear an announcer talk about mahomes over and over so I'm good with what Brady did. We got Collinsworth for that
Conor is waaaay more entertaining than the previous third member of the team. There. I said it.
Can we trade Kyle Shanahan for something less like The Divine Comedy pls? This purgatorious existence of being second place and calling it success is exhausting.
The 9ers are doing well for a team that just whiffed on a first round QB. Just look at the Panthers who did the same thing last year for comparison.
@didgruntleddansnyderfan Feels like we are stuck in a death spiral. Literally waiting, it's just time, until Kyle takes us back to the game, only to horribly choke a massive lead away, most likely to Reid. Although Flores or Schultz could also do the job. So many niner fans are happy with this, but damn, runner up is nowhere. A change is surely needed.
@@DamonClarke-g1f Yes. The only problem is that change when you're perpetually #2 out of 32 is almost guaranteed to be change for the worse.
If you ask me you need to upgrade your training staff or something. Maybe some survival training for your players? You're just always injured! The Chiefs are too, but they're like the world's greatest minimalists or something over there with Reid and Mahomes, and you're just not.
Maybe you're too top heavy? An NFL season is, among other things, a test of depth, and you always seem to drop off when you get injuries. Too much, I mean. You're always going to have some drop off. But you should stilll be able to keep winning if you want a chip.
@didgruntleddansnyderfan This is true sometimes you need to move backwards to progress again. But imagine by some miracle this season the Niners make it to the SB and they play the Chiefs. We all know how it would go. Despite leading, dominating even at times, we would lose. I cant deal with that again.
@@DamonClarke-g1f No, it certainly is a bit of a1990s Buffalo Bills sit you've got going on. But the actual problem is that Mahomes + Reid are just too good. You really don't stand much of a chance with Purdy at QB. I like him, but let's just be real here: He isn't on the same level. And I think maybe you need to be, and even then it's not guaranteed.
Ask the rest of the AFC how they feel. I had a bit of a chinwag with someone last night when I was trying to think of an AFC team that had actually beaten Mahomes in the playoffs, and I could only remember Burrow doing it once. I was then reminded that Tom Brady and Justin Herbert had also managed it once each. But that's three wins in approaching a decade. And one of them seems to have regressed out of competition and the other one has become a talking head due to extreme old age. Only Burrow is left, and he's struggled to repeat the feat.
So it's not just the 49ers. And it's still better to play in Super Bowls than not to. Again, look at the Panthers...
The Eagle and CD is the best booth going
I loath Chris Collinsworth and Charles Davies.
How many people prefer the Manningcast over these commentators?
Me, I dont get anyone liking Aikman's cliches and repetitiveness
Not many based on the ratings
Me for sure
They’re great when you don’t have a direct rooting interest. I don’t enjoy hearing them get into the weeds when I’m trying to follow the continuity of the game closely
I like the manningcast when I don’t care about the game
Let's go podcast bozos!
let’s goooo
Connor the contrarian lol
Dan-turn down your light, you are glowing like a neon sign I don't think you want that LOL...also like Mark I did a chuck an empty soda bottle across the room in a studio class back in college and got a classmate in the head just as she was walking across the floor to someone. I felt so stupid and since I already didn't like her it seemed intentional.
It is all subjective but IMO Joe Buck is easily the worst. His voice and play calling ruins games.
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I would feel much better about space alien Tom Brady as a $340 million announcer if he was allowed/inclined to be honest and not pretending to be impressed by a 54% completion rate Dak Prescott and things. Keep it real or don't bother. Probably an unrealitstic ask of the media, but I really must insist.
You guys live in L.A. can you pronounce the Spanish name correctly it’s Avila aa
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connor is right, aikman and buck are awful
Tirico is great, Collingsworth sucks sweaty donkeyballs! Remove him and add a really good sidekick to Tirico and that would potentially be the best team in the booth!
Agree fully with Connor, I hate Buck and Aikman!
Who Cares what you like or don't ? You are NOBODY. LOL
Collinsworth sucks and has for years.
Conor is right, Joe and Troy suck
Buck & Aikman at 9 cause conner feels threatened. This show just lost its credibility