The Accord's ability after 4 years to still consistently be one of the quickest family sedans while also being the most balanced overall is very impressive.
The Honda's detuned version of the Civic Type R's engine and its excellent 10 speed transmission are truly impressive. But the new 2.5L turbo in the Korean vehicles and their much improved DCT may well be tweaked to improve its performance in upcoming versions. As for Toyota, the Camry's somewhat old-in-the-tooth naturally aspirated V6 won't shine in this kind of comparison. Of course, Toyota could turbocharge that engine to improve the Camry's performance but that would risk putting a dent (even a minor one) in Toyota's reputation for reliability. And that's something that Toyota is very unlikely to risk.
Many drivers reported that their Honda Accords had engine problems regarding oil consumption. The engines would burn through oil far more rapidly than usual, forcing drivers to replenish their oil too often. Replacing the oil could add up fast, and fixing the actual problem can cost $1,200 or more.
I have been loving my 2020 Accord Sport 2.0T. It’s a real sleeper. The power delivery and the driving dynamics just feel more refined and it all feels more buttoned down than the competitors, IMO. For me that’s more important than some of the tech lacking and less premium materials inside. Not that there is anything really wrong with their interiors.
Wow! Sonata N-line is impressive. If the driver was more familiar with Sonata, I think the result would have been a complete sweep. Camry and the Accord have always been the top sellers year after year before the SUV craze, but maybe Sonata & K5 will creep into their market-share being equally quality cars, or maybe even better.
@@truthonly7196 where you get that from? Legit question. I bought a sonata 13, 2.0t at 18k miles, sold it at 250k miles, still running fine. Best car I have ever owned.
@@jimmypena2442 I don’t think it’s underrated or it makes it to the wheels. Pretty sure that little turbo lag helps with initial grip and then when the turbo kicks in it’s already got grip. If it was really underestimated the sonata wouldn’t catch up so well.
@@smokesgtp then it’s just the lower power and gearing that might be helping it grip better initially. Either way if it were underrated and had more power to the wheels it would be spinning the wheels as well and better on the top end.
The conclusion from this video: 1. Despite some reactions/launch issue, Camry is ALWAYS the loser regardless, in any mode. So Turbo owns? 2. The extra 40 HP on Sonata over the Accord is noticed as it allows the Sonata to catch up towards the end. Good runs
If you've ever drove any of these cars the Sonata is definitely the quickest car of the 3. It spins to much to be a lauch demon but has crazy performance when you're already rolling.
I'm SHOCKED the Sonata took the Accord by THAT MUCH in the 2nd run in full sport mode. Even if the Accord is givin' up 50hp to the Hyundai, that Accord is QUICK, so the Sonata is VERY impressive.
@@ChumpChangeIndustries I've had the N line since May and it's an absolutely amazing car. If Hyundai just gave us a limited slip differential it would be the complete package. Otherwise it's an excellent ride and really surprises a lot of people.
That 10 speed transmission in the Accord is just way more responsive. Still on the top end, that 311 torque of the Sonata will always walk it down though.
@@galacticmaui2 Faster transmission, not necessarily better and Toyota and Hyundai have more durable transmission than Honda. They have very few transmission failure compared to Honda.
@@galacticmaui2 what you mean? It's been out long enough to see how well it performs. Unless you're talking about reliability, which would be besides point.
@@ajpeeps9829 makes sense. I went for the v6 instead of the 2.0t just because the v6 sounds better makes more power etc proven engine and no direct injection problems that 2.0t engines have. I do mostly highway driving and average 36 mpg because it kicks down to 3 cylinders when cruising gotta love vcm.
The 3rd run sport mode, the sonata had a terrible late launch. I think that is the same sonata throttle house raced with that defect in the launch control system that you mentioned. You are doing it right launching at 2k rpm.
@@SamCarLegion Dude's Right. Heard that the Pre-Production Sonata N-Line has some bugs, Because if the K5 was destroying the Accord then there is no way the N-Line wouldn't be able to do the same.
@@SamCarLegion did you engage the launch control? You mentioned the sonata doesn't like the brake and gas at the same time which is part of how you put it into launch. Try Sport+ >>> hold the traction control until stability is off >>> hold brake and gas to floor >>> use cruise control adjuster to set RPM >>> let of brake
Hell yeah those cars don't need a bunch of horsepower they just run so damn good. From point A to point b there's nothing better on the road. The only one that can compete is the Toyota Corolla and Camry are very good cars also. But they put everything else to shame. Nissan used to be good decades ago but they fell to the wayside... I've always been a big Honda Civic Si person, 8th generation 9th & 10th! I decided to trade in my 2019 Honda Civic SI for the 2020 Honda Accord 2.0t touring. Both cars are extremely nice comfortable very good seating position & engaging to drive. My wife likes the Accord because of the automatic transmission & she can actually drive it but when it comes to having fun & hauling ass I had them both tuned on K-tuner they're very close in speed. For me I like both of them VERY well probably a tie, the Accord probably looks a little more grown up & has lil more room. Both of them are hella reliable I don't think you can go wrong if you take care of them🚗💨
I'm not sure but if the K5 GT consistently outperforms the Sonata N-Line in this particular drag race mission the difference may be Hyundai's decision to lean toward a more premium vibe with a softer launch compared to the KIA's decision to accept more torque steer while emphasizing performance in their GT model. It's noteworthy that the Sonata's greatest advantage was in the rolling start comparison where its larger, stronger 2.5L engine was already engaged.
That may be true. Looking at several video tests of the K5 GT and Sonata N Line, it seems the reviewers usually have more difficulty getting a good launch from the Sonata vs the Kia. Watching the reviewer trying to get a good launch from the Sonata during the Redline review was downright comical.
I'm still grateful that alot of people still don't know that the accord has a detuned type r motor. Very simple tunes make it a sleeper monster which is awesome
I think the big differences between the Accord and the Camry are the weight and torque placement. I don't mean torque output which I'm guessing is something like 270 lb ft for both, but where in the power band does the max torque come in. If it's something like 4000 rpm for the Camry and 2000 rpm for the Accord, that'll certainly make the Accord quicker. Also, the Accord I'm guessing has to be something like 100lbs to 150lbs lighter. The Camry having 50hp more matters not.
I love the Accord 2.0T & the Sonata Nline 2.5T, wish the driver of the Sonata had a better reaction time so we can see how close the Accord & Sonata come.
It's nice to see Hyundai make great strides over the years. I currently own a 2013 Sonata 2.0t Limited which was their sport version at the time. I can say this while it might not be the fastest car out there but it has certainly surprised a few people and I had it up to 150mph once.
Honda is the largest manufacturer of internal combustion engines. They’ve been building motors since the 1940’s. To here ppl in 2024 say Hyundai has come a long way is hilarious 😂😂😂
The Accord (Sport trim 3330 lb , Touring 3430 lbs) are also the lightest and likely underrated.. I think theyre making what the TLX 2.0t is rated at ..which is 272 hp and 280 lb-ft. So once you account pw/wt , theyre fairly similar. And well, we all know there is replacement for displacement 😂
Hyundai needs to do something about the two different lines because it makes no sense. If they added a louder exhaust and more sporty detailing you literally could call this Sonata an N. I did read the other day that Hyundai was thinking about dropping the "N" in the future and moving everything to "N line" in terms of branding, but who knows.
The Sonata N-Line use an Dual-Clutch Transmission, the computar doesn't let you do that because you can damage the clutch. Instead, the car has an launch control system that help you with that. It's true that the Sonata doesn't launch that well, too much power to the front tires, it's an aggressive engine after all. But, thank you anyways to show what Hyundao can do today.
The launch control worked only twice properly then it said system fail probably to protect the engine and transmission. Kia K5 cares very little lol just goes
@@SamCarLegion I actually saw the K5 you guys run, and I can see that the K5 put the power to the ground more efficiently. Like you said, is not the first time that tje launch control fail in testing, sometimes doesn't put the power to the wheel at all. But, we can say at the end that the Sonata N-Line and Kia K5 are making history for the brand. The performances almost go equal to that of the Veloster N and Civic Type R.
@@Hondaddy yea and the type R has an LSD. These have open diffs, the point being they have too much power for their configuration because it doesn't get to the road effectively off the line
I own a 2021 sonata nline. It doesn't hard launch very well at all. It does better with a gentle roll on the throttle. Sometimes less is more. This is a car you really have to know how to launch or you just get spinning and wheel hop. Also summer tires make a big difference the all seasons suck can't get any traction.
Personally Sam, I prefer roll races on FWD cars because some much goes into launching that it really doesn’t show the cars full potential. I still feel the N line is much faster than the accord as shown in the rolling race. How do you feel?
Embarrassing for Toyota! It may be a faster Looking car but that V6 has no power at all! So sad because I love Toyota.😢 The Toyota will probably last longer though.😎👍
But Camry is most reliable. Good working horse. If you guys want fast Camry you can go with Lexus GSF. Of course it’s not fastest in its class but still fun to drive. NA V 8 and sounds great. Natural V 8 sound can’t be compared with v6 turbo.
Test the Accord with Hondata Stage 2, traction and launch control. The Accord is also notoriously quick off the line with a handbrake launch (Brake Hold).
@@bradleyscarreviews that's why I think they're ugly, they try making them "exotic" looking but in my opinion they're ugly. I don't like kia or Hyundai cars tbh
I’ve heard the Camry pulls a lot of power to avoid wheel spin even with TC turned off which makes sense, the v6 puts out over 300hp on the dyno but by the looks of it gets limited
Dynos don’t mean a thing. One dyno can say 220 another dyno will spit out 270. 1/4 mile trap speed is the best indicator of power and a Camry is not trapping higher than an accord.
Torque is the more important metric here. The naturally aspirated 2GR isn't going to offer the kind of low-RPM torque the turbocharged engines will as these cars rack through gears. Remember, power is a measure of the work being done. It's mathematically derived. Torque is a measure of how hard it's turning, the force applied. HP = (RPM * lb-ft) / 5252. The torque the engine delivers depends on its RPM, and as RPM goes up so to ultimately does power. That engine is putting out way less than 300 HP for most of the time it spends accelerating because the engine isn't spinning fast enough to reach that point except at the very end of each gear before then immediately shifting down again. This sort of race is the domain of forced induction engines and electric motors.
It would be nice to see a race where all three vehicles have aftermarket tunes. Honda has the least HP but probably some of the best tunability of the three vehicles.
Rent a sonata n line or ask someone and see for yourself. That car hates launches. Not the driver, the car is terrible at launch. Had no problem with the K5. The first 2 launches it does well. Then it says “go to hell” lol
@@SamCarLegion Sonata owner. (Not n line) can confirm the car does hate launches. It's the dct engine. Some times the clutch will catch right away, some times it's delayed. According to Hyundai the way to launch their dct engine cars is to hold both the brake and gas down at the same time for like 3 seconds then release the brake. (Which is what he said at the end). Cannot confirm if doing that can cause it to successfully launch every time.
The 8 speed in the Camry really kills it, I think the older generation with the 6 speed is faster, the 8 speed just launches very slow and shifts very slow too
I’d love to see the K5 GT, accord, and Camry race! (Yes I know the sonata and the K5 GT have the same engine, but still) would be awesome to see! Great video!!
Makes sense given the fact that the Sonata has an extra 40 HP over the Accord plus it uses a DCT compared to the Accord's traditional 10-speed. From a roll, nothing else in the segment really stands a chance.
I owned 3 Lexus GS 350-430 300 Hp cars from 1999 - 2010. Great sedan, 5.3 sec 0-60. My 2020 Honda Accord 2.0 T is every bit as as fast, and handles as well or more. Shocking.
That roll race...why honk it when you are just rolling up to the same speed to set up for the actual roll race, and then you floor it without honking? Shouldn't you honk when you are all at the same speed and then floor it? It looked like the two other drivers were completely caught off guard. Either way, Camry is a dinosaur and while it's a decent car, it's just not competitive in this set. Toyota needs to either make a performance oriented hybrid powertrain or just finally give the people a competitive turbo 4. The V6 was a great engine 15 years ago.... The Accord may not have the highest HP numbers but it's the one I'd buy. The Sonata is impressive though, certainly wouldn't fault anyone for buying one, but the Accord is an all around great performer and it's very comfortable to use as a daily driver.
Great races! Exactly what I wanted to see. Still trying to negotiate with Kia dealers regarding a new K5 GT as opposed to the GT1 which is about $5K more at close to $37K. The Hyundai sales people were annoying me. Accord is a great car, don't get me wrong, but these are the shiny new objects at the moment. I would not be surprised if Honda and Toyota are watching these and maybe taking some notes for the next generation models coming down the Pike. You are really the only one that is actually comparing all of these cars head to head. I guess Throttlehouse but they never figured out how to launch it correctly, not to mention the sub-zero conditions and a brand new car.
@@SamCarLegion So, I did not get the K5 GT. Instead, yesterday I traded my 18 Accord Sport 2.0 for the Sonata Nline. So far, it is fantastic so hopefully that will continue. One thing is definite, the driver assist cruise control is significantly better. The car pretty much drives itself whereas the Accord ping pongs you between lanes before it all together just stops working.
@@mikescallon4288 Hey, if you don’t mind if you see this how is the N-line now? I purchased my 2021 SEL in May2021, nearing 1year ownership and wanting the sportier model…. Any issues or problems you’ve run into?
Where are all the camry people who swore the camry was faster than the accord. Lol . Loving that sonata it sounds like the beast it is 👍💪. That accord is still no joke though 😏😉
Honda clearly underrates the power numbers on the Accord. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s really not a detuned version of the Civic Type R’s engine. Anything is possible 🤷🏽♂️
I think the key here is that the Accord does a better job of putting the power down with a superior transmission and gearing despite having less power.
I can respect Hyundai for what they can bring but I would still take the Honda due to their long term reputation like Toyota. Mu neighbor has a 2020 accord touring with a Hondata Stage 2 and that thing pulls!!
Yes the camry is slower but it's leading in sales and fuel economy is just as good as accord so it's achieving its mission. And i did see the Trd beat Mazda in drag so it's not the slowest.
Many drivers reported that their Honda Accords had engine problems regarding oil consumption. The engines would burn through oil far more rapidly than usual, forcing drivers to replenish their oil too often. Replacing the oil could add up fast, and fixing the actual problem can cost $1,200 or more.
Sonata NLIne loose regardless who drives it. See "Throttle House" UA-cam channel since they ran the same cars against each other and the Sonata still got beat.
Sam, I'm the owner of the Honda ACCORD in Korea. Always enjoy your video. It's true that ACCORD isn't as fast as a sports car or a supercar, but I'm sure it's one of the fastest family sedan in the world.
Thank God I averted my attention from the Camry to a Honda Accord. The Camry is a sexy car but i definitely wanted something good looking with sport power as well. And I fell in love with the accord ! Ps: that’s not even the sport Honda(if I’m right) and it still dominated on the track!
You are right about it not being the sport Honda. However, the 2.0 automatically comes with a sport button on every trim level with an automatic transmission.
Lmao at the Camry. I literally had an XSE try to buck at me yesterday when I changed lanes (he tried to speed up and I have n N Line) and the same thing happened. Dude was left in the rearview mirror. Thanks for the video.
Id like to see the Accord driver, who always manages to stomp on the gas first, in the N-line. It would crush the Accord. And there's a launch mode I haven't seen used.
why is the accord touring always used, the sport 2.0 is lighter so theoretically its quicker. also the sonata is a '21 model so how about a '21 model accord... why? because honda says they recalibrated the throttle response for quicker acceleration.
Hyundai has simply hobbled the Sonata N line and K5 GT so as not to cannibalize sales from the Genesis G70 and Stinger...think about it these cars are already getting sub 5.5 second 0-60 if launched right imagine what they can do with AWD and a proper launch control....
The beginning of the end for V6 engines began some time ago. In this particular case the 2.5L turbo that Hyundai, KIA, and Genesis are offering in at least 7(!) different vehicles appears to be an especially strong win/win with more power and better fuel economy than comparable V6 versions.
No it's not the end for the v6 engine, if u look at the numbers the camry v6 gets just as good of fuel economy as the honda and that's what it's about. Besides toyota uses this v6 in other products.
@@mikeharris7261 I'm not arguing the value of a V6 engine. I'm talking about its market appeal. For example, less than 5% (!) of all Camrys are sold with its naturally aspirated V6. That's a major reason that Toyota doesn't offer AWD with that engine. The appeal of a V6 in a midsize sedan is simply not sufficient to justify the cost of design and production.
@@stephenhendricks103 Same could be said about honda when its v6 was in production. Yeah they went turbo but still they're not unloading a lot of up level or touring models either.
I like the video, I own a Sonata N Line and I can tell you from stop it's a slow car but when is rolling the tires after 40 miles and you hit the gas is a rocket 🚀... thank you for another great video Sir
Could you tell if he used the launch control? Sounded like he didn't. Ive gotten the best launch at around 2200 to 2500. At 3k it mitigates the torque too much.
Gotta love the accord for being just a "sport" and not trying to piggy back off of more sports cars like a Si or a type R... GT for kia is the brand highest badge
Sonata is very clearly the fastest car here. From a roll it pulls and from a dead stop even when it’s last out the whole it pulled by the other 2 if the launch wasn’t too bad
With some computer tuning the results I am sure will be different but the Honda really is a well rounded car. The Toyota with the v6 will do best for those who live more in hilly areras because of the larger displacement. Hyundai and kia are making great strides in improving their products.
The Accord's ability after 4 years to still consistently be one of the quickest family sedans while also being the most balanced overall is very impressive.
Agreed
The Honda's detuned version of the Civic Type R's engine and its excellent 10 speed transmission are truly impressive. But the new 2.5L turbo in the Korean vehicles and their much improved DCT may well be tweaked to improve its performance in upcoming versions. As for Toyota, the Camry's somewhat old-in-the-tooth naturally aspirated V6 won't shine in this kind of comparison. Of course, Toyota could turbocharge that engine to improve the Camry's performance but that would risk putting a dent (even a minor one) in Toyota's reputation for reliability. And that's something that Toyota is very unlikely to risk.
@@stephenhendricks103 never know, they teamed up with unreliable bmw to build the supra 🤣
Many drivers reported that their Honda Accords had engine problems regarding oil consumption. The engines would burn through oil far more rapidly than usual, forcing drivers to replenish their oil too often. Replacing the oil could add up fast, and fixing the actual problem can cost $1,200 or more.
I have been loving my 2020 Accord Sport 2.0T. It’s a real sleeper. The power delivery and the driving dynamics just feel more refined and it all feels more buttoned down than the competitors, IMO. For me that’s more important than some of the tech lacking and less premium materials inside. Not that there is anything really wrong with their interiors.
Wow! Sonata N-line is impressive. If the driver was more familiar with Sonata, I think the result would have been a complete sweep. Camry and the Accord have always been the top sellers year after year before the SUV craze, but maybe Sonata & K5 will creep into their market-share being equally quality cars, or maybe even better.
Honda and Toyota are known for their reliability, and both these brands are practical as well. while one can't say the same for the Hyundai.
@@truthonly7196 where you get that from? Legit question. I bought a sonata 13, 2.0t at 18k miles, sold it at 250k miles, still running fine. Best car I have ever owned.
@@RaptorVac must haven’t owned a lot of cars😂 u can sell a Camry at 400k miles still running
@@lilsonny4074 same with a Honda Accord
Everyone gets mad when they get beat by a Korean product
The reaction time of the Sonata driver was slower than my dead grandmother.
Dude was asleep at the wheel just about every launch.
To me in shows the capability on that N-Line even more. Being about to reel in the accord was certainly impressive.
Lmao 😂🤣🤣🤣
@@phuxtick what is a launch?
Yes , actually your'e right 😂
The accord is definitely underrated on power
@@akaDICworldwide the tlx is still slower bud
@@jimmypena2442 I don’t think it’s underrated or it makes it to the wheels. Pretty sure that little turbo lag helps with initial grip and then when the turbo kicks in it’s already got grip. If it was really underestimated the sonata wouldn’t catch up so well.
@@ajl6854 there's almost no appreciable lag.
It's making what the RDX or TLX are rated at.
@@smokesgtp then it’s just the lower power and gearing that might be helping it grip better initially. Either way if it were underrated and had more power to the wheels it would be spinning the wheels as well and better on the top end.
The conclusion from this video:
1. Despite some reactions/launch issue, Camry is ALWAYS the loser regardless, in any mode. So Turbo owns?
2. The extra 40 HP on Sonata over the Accord is noticed as it allows the Sonata to catch up towards the end.
Good runs
@I hate Dummies
Only if u keep it 10+years
@I hate Dummies yes cheers to many more boring driving years. Life is too short for boring cars.
The camry xse has not turbo, so the reaction after launch is the issue compared to the other ones. Obviously slower than the rest
Exactly 😁
"extra 40 hp", on paper maybe.
If you've ever drove any of these cars the Sonata is definitely the quickest car of the 3. It spins to much to be a lauch demon but has crazy performance when you're already rolling.
All I know is that I love my '20 Honda Accord Touring 2.0T and I look forward to driving it every single day!
The accord is a true gem. My 2001 EX is still running strong.
They don’t make them like they used to🥲
I have 2001's too🔥
Me 2 ihave 2001 black
The reliability of these new Honda’s is shit
That 01 civic you have is known for overheating and blowing head gaskets.
I'm SHOCKED the Sonata took the Accord by THAT MUCH in the 2nd run in full sport mode. Even if the Accord is givin' up 50hp to the Hyundai, that Accord is QUICK, so the Sonata is VERY impressive.
Honestly I want all of them but I’ll go with the sonata because it’s pretty quick and launch isn’t everything
@@ChumpChangeIndustries I've had the N line since May and it's an absolutely amazing car. If Hyundai just gave us a limited slip differential it would be the complete package. Otherwise it's an excellent ride and really surprises a lot of people.
I’m pretty sure the 2nd lap was a sport + which the accord doesn’t have.
@@SaintsSF90 likely. 👍✌️
A Hyundai is never “impressive”. It’s cheap crap. Same with Kia. Crap.
2:55 for race
3:45 second run
4:32 third run
The driver in the accord definitely have faster reaction then the other 2 drivers🤣
That 10 speed transmission in the Accord is just way more responsive. Still on the top end, that 311 torque of the Sonata will always walk it down though.
I think it’s the better transmission at work.
@@galacticmaui2 Faster transmission, not necessarily better and Toyota and Hyundai have more durable transmission than Honda. They have very few transmission failure compared to Honda.
@@Marlon_J We wouldn’t know in regards to this specific transmission so I’d hold judgment in the meantime.
@@galacticmaui2 what you mean? It's been out long enough to see how well it performs. Unless you're talking about reliability, which would be besides point.
You need a walkie talkie to communicate with the other drivers for better sync and timing.
We have 3
Sonata is no joke damn. This is why I bought one….it is very fast. Refined premium interior and legendary warranty
Hyundai junk
High horsepower is good and all but the way that power is delivered is a factor and the driver's reaction time plays a part
Watching this made me proud that I own a 2.0 Accord 😊
I've got the 1.5. Which is 1.8 seconds slower. But I went for gas mileage. But I've contemplated going to the 2.0.
@@ajpeeps9829 makes sense. I went for the v6 instead of the 2.0t just because the v6 sounds better makes more power etc proven engine and no direct injection problems that 2.0t engines have. I do mostly highway driving and average 36 mpg because it kicks down to 3 cylinders when cruising gotta love vcm.
Why? Because it's the slowest?
Same here bro. Seeing these vids on the channel make me happy. Repping the red 18’ in 6mt.
It held its own but nline faster.
The 3rd run sport mode, the sonata had a terrible late launch. I think that is the same sonata throttle house raced with that defect in the launch control system that you mentioned. You are doing it right launching at 2k rpm.
Sonata N line doesn’t like launches, this is my second race
@@SamCarLegion Dude's Right. Heard that the Pre-Production Sonata N-Line has some bugs, Because if the K5 was destroying the Accord then there is no way the N-Line wouldn't be able to do the same.
@@boygonewhoopdataZZ yep
@@SamCarLegion did you engage the launch control? You mentioned the sonata doesn't like the brake and gas at the same time which is part of how you put it into launch. Try Sport+ >>> hold the traction control until stability is off >>> hold brake and gas to floor >>> use cruise control adjuster to set RPM >>> let of brake
He's launching terrible. Saying the Sonata doesn't launch is ridiculous. It's quick af off the line
The Accord is a beast with the least hp!
Texas ?
Hell yeah those cars don't need a bunch of horsepower they just run so damn good. From point A to point b there's nothing better on the road. The only one that can compete is the Toyota Corolla and Camry are very good cars also. But they put everything else to shame. Nissan used to be good decades ago but they fell to the wayside... I've always been a big Honda Civic Si person, 8th generation 9th & 10th! I decided to trade in my 2019 Honda Civic SI for the 2020 Honda Accord 2.0t touring. Both cars are extremely nice comfortable very good seating position & engaging to drive. My wife likes the Accord because of the automatic transmission & she can actually drive it but when it comes to having fun & hauling ass I had them both tuned on K-tuner they're very close in speed. For me I like both of them VERY well probably a tie, the Accord probably looks a little more grown up & has lil more room. Both of them are hella reliable I don't think you can go wrong if you take care of them🚗💨
And light. I love my 1.5. And being 1.8 seconds slower in a 0-60 is amazing. And switch it to Econ and it great on gas.
it’s the 10 speed transmission that makes it so damn good
The k20c4 in the accord makes more hp then what it's officially rated at.
I'm not sure but if the K5 GT consistently outperforms the Sonata N-Line in this particular drag race mission the difference may be Hyundai's decision to lean toward a more premium vibe with a softer launch compared to the KIA's decision to accept more torque steer while emphasizing performance in their GT model. It's noteworthy that the Sonata's greatest advantage was in the rolling start comparison where its larger, stronger 2.5L engine was already engaged.
If he wouldn’t have changed the rpms it makes a difference
That may be true. Looking at several video tests of the K5 GT and Sonata N Line, it seems the reviewers usually have more difficulty getting a good launch from the Sonata vs the Kia. Watching the reviewer trying to get a good launch from the Sonata during the Redline review was downright comical.
It doesn’t I’ve beaten k5 gt’s with my sonata.
Accord and Hyundai did very very well..Camry dissapointed me having 301hp should have been closer..that turbo torque helps a bunch
LOL..........
I've seen that horse power doesn't mean much. Torque is the secret. Also, turbo gives a boost.
They claim 301 crank but when put on the dyno those new Camrys make less wheel power then the older camrys lol.
@@omarrod71 My 2009 V6 beats the 2020 TRD don’t know what Toyota is putting out there lol
@@DylanGarciaaa I think it's the tune from factory. Once you tune the new camrys they wake up.
I'm still grateful that alot of people still don't know that the accord has a detuned type r motor. Very simple tunes make it a sleeper monster which is awesome
@Nugsie where can you get that done?
@@dmmusicmusic where can you get an engine tune for the accord? Depends where you live but a quick Google search should suffice.
@@truly_I_say thks, if I buy one will keep in mind, not that I'd really need it but wth, yolo.
I’ve never understood how Toyota has a Camry that has over 300hp but they feel like they have 150hp, very very slow cars.
I think the big differences between the Accord and the Camry are the weight and torque placement. I don't mean torque output which I'm guessing is something like 270 lb ft for both, but where in the power band does the max torque come in. If it's something like 4000 rpm for the Camry and 2000 rpm for the Accord, that'll certainly make the Accord quicker. Also, the Accord I'm guessing has to be something like 100lbs to 150lbs lighter. The Camry having 50hp more matters not.
I love the Accord 2.0T & the Sonata Nline 2.5T, wish the driver of the Sonata had a better reaction time so we can see how close the Accord & Sonata come.
Now that's the comparison I've been waiting for! Thanks
They should have switched cars to be sure it wasn’t a driver who sucks . Lol
My thoughts exactly. I bet that would have made a difference.
It's nice to see Hyundai make great strides over the years. I currently own a 2013 Sonata 2.0t Limited which was their sport version at the time. I can say this while it might not be the fastest car out there but it has certainly surprised a few people and I had it up to 150mph once.
Sure you do lol loser alert radar on high
@@titusrome2863 your so lame
@@titusrome2863Can’t imagine you have a car talking like that. Only loser here is yourself neckbeard warrior.
Honda is the largest manufacturer of internal combustion engines. They’ve been building motors since the 1940’s. To here ppl in 2024 say Hyundai has come a long way is hilarious 😂😂😂
Thanks for the comparison! That Accord having the smallest engine/HP is a BEAST!!
The Accord (Sport trim 3330 lb , Touring 3430 lbs) are also the lightest and likely underrated.. I think theyre making what the TLX 2.0t is rated at ..which is 272 hp and 280 lb-ft. So once you account pw/wt , theyre fairly similar.
And well, we all know there is replacement for displacement 😂
@@M4B21S88 TURBO!!! LOL!
The "N Line" isn't an official "N", correct?
Yes it is not N
Hyundai needs to do something about the two different lines because it makes no sense. If they added a louder exhaust and more sporty detailing you literally could call this Sonata an N. I did read the other day that Hyundai was thinking about dropping the "N" in the future and moving everything to "N line" in terms of branding, but who knows.
That 10Speed really makes a big difference keeping it on it's power band!
@Josue Ayala yupp!!!
I feel like Hyundai always tunes the same engine more conservatively than Kia.
agreed
I prefer my Segway. Acceleration unparalleled and near light speed. Donuts are good for your health fellas.
I love my 2021 Honda Accord 2.0t Sport. More and more mid-size sedans are using turbos as opposed to asperated engines.
Until they breakdown. So expensive to repair. I miss the v6 Accord.
The Sonata N-Line use an Dual-Clutch Transmission, the computar doesn't let you do that because you can damage the clutch. Instead, the car has an launch control system that help you with that. It's true that the Sonata doesn't launch that well, too much power to the front tires, it's an aggressive engine after all. But, thank you anyways to show what Hyundao can do today.
The launch control worked only twice properly then it said system fail probably to protect the engine and transmission. Kia K5 cares very little lol just goes
@@SamCarLegion I actually saw the K5 you guys run, and I can see that the K5 put the power to the ground more efficiently. Like you said, is not the first time that tje launch control fail in testing, sometimes doesn't put the power to the wheel at all. But, we can say at the end that the Sonata N-Line and Kia K5 are making history for the brand. The performances almost go equal to that of the Veloster N and Civic Type R.
Too much power? Funny...we have type R's running fine with 400hp
@@Hondaddy yea and the type R has an LSD. These have open diffs, the point being they have too much power for their configuration because it doesn't get to the road effectively off the line
I own a 2021 sonata nline. It doesn't hard launch very well at all. It does better with a gentle roll on the throttle. Sometimes less is more. This is a car you really have to know how to launch or you just get spinning and wheel hop. Also summer tires make a big difference the all seasons suck can't get any traction.
Sonata N Line is the one for me, if I had to buy one of these front wheel drive 4 bangers. Love Hyundai and Genesis.
Personally Sam, I prefer roll races on FWD cars because some much goes into launching that it really doesn’t show the cars full potential. I still feel the N line is much faster than the accord as shown in the rolling race. How do you feel?
Embarrassing for Toyota! It may be a faster Looking car but that V6 has no power at all! So sad because I love Toyota.😢 The Toyota will probably last longer though.😎👍
Remember is naturally aspirated, whilst the others aren’t !!
@@fredmcgrif Maybe Toyota should get with the times. The NA V6 that they've been using for the last 20 years isn't cutting the mustard.
But Camry is most reliable. Good working horse. If you guys want fast Camry you can go with Lexus GSF. Of course it’s not fastest in its class but still fun to drive. NA V 8 and sounds great. Natural V 8 sound can’t be compared with v6 turbo.
It's for sure the most reliable with no turbo
Toyota is now powerless
Test the Accord with Hondata Stage 2, traction and launch control. The Accord is also notoriously quick off the line with a handbrake launch (Brake Hold).
Interesting
You said at the end that we learned something new...I didn't...you just made it even clearer that the Accord is far superior to the rest...lol
K5 GT is faster tho
@@bradleyscarreviews ugly car tho, Honda looks better
@@richieflexz the k5 looks much more aggressive and beautiful than the accord. Think you might be talking about the sonata.
@@bradleyscarreviews that's why I think they're ugly, they try making them "exotic" looking but in my opinion they're ugly. I don't like kia or Hyundai cars tbh
@@richieflexz a man with taste
I’ve heard the Camry pulls a lot of power to avoid wheel spin even with TC turned off which makes sense, the v6 puts out over 300hp on the dyno but by the looks of it gets limited
Dynos don’t mean a thing. One dyno can say 220 another dyno will spit out 270. 1/4 mile trap speed is the best indicator of power and a Camry is not trapping higher than an accord.
Torque is the more important metric here. The naturally aspirated 2GR isn't going to offer the kind of low-RPM torque the turbocharged engines will as these cars rack through gears.
Remember, power is a measure of the work being done. It's mathematically derived. Torque is a measure of how hard it's turning, the force applied. HP = (RPM * lb-ft) / 5252. The torque the engine delivers depends on its RPM, and as RPM goes up so to ultimately does power. That engine is putting out way less than 300 HP for most of the time it spends accelerating because the engine isn't spinning fast enough to reach that point except at the very end of each gear before then immediately shifting down again.
This sort of race is the domain of forced induction engines and electric motors.
Lol buddy aint no camry putting 300hp on a dyno, they are only 302 to the crank.
That sonata surprised me
The black tail lights makes accord faster.
Love your channel and I must say the bass in your vids is fantastic! Sounds amazing on my Edifiers!
Accord drivers definitely best reaction. Sonata should be winning every run.
Most videos I've see between the Accord and Sonata, the Accord is faster.
@@ajpeeps9829 … Yeah sure!
@@trdtrek3717
Yeppers.
I miss the Camry that had the Supercharger. Untouchable! Can't believe they stopped making those.
what Camry was that?
@@hewhoislikegod333 he's referring to the TRD Aurion which was only made for the Australia/New Zealand market.
It would be nice to see a race where all three vehicles have aftermarket tunes. Honda has the least HP but probably some of the best tunability of the three vehicles.
the Nline runs 12s with bolt ons and tune and already has a decent aftermarket selection. you don't want to see that lol the Accord will still lose
The N line is hell of a beast. Best car for tuning. This coming from someone who owned a accord 2.0T civic Si and Elantra N
Finally ! I drag race I can truly afford
@@carwikiofficial if you can’t afford it without financing you still can’t afford it
Damn you can't time your launch if your life depended on it
The sad fact that the Sonata N line legit has a fool proof launch control.
Rent a sonata n line or ask someone and see for yourself. That car hates launches. Not the driver, the car is terrible at launch. Had no problem with the K5. The first 2 launches it does well. Then it says “go to hell” lol
@@SamCarLegion Sonata owner. (Not n line) can confirm the car does hate launches. It's the dct engine. Some times the clutch will catch right away, some times it's delayed. According to Hyundai the way to launch their dct engine cars is to hold both the brake and gas down at the same time for like 3 seconds then release the brake. (Which is what he said at the end). Cannot confirm if doing that can cause it to successfully launch every time.
Agreed. At this point he need to just quit freaking trying cause it’s annoying
@@Jayojair lol I’m a sonata n line owner, na do doesn’t have that taking off issue!
Another great video, love your editing! See ya soon!
See you soon bud
The 8 speed in the Camry really kills it, I think the older generation with the 6 speed is faster, the 8 speed just launches very slow and shifts very slow too
Very true, owned a 2015 Camry with the 6 speed and now own an 8 speed Camry. I like the 6 speed better.
The Camry V-6 was consistently behind the others. Needs a faster shifting transmission, and to lose some weight.
Toyota neutered it with that slush box
07 Camry is a sleeper buddy
orr they could go turbo 4 cyl like the others
I’d love to see the K5 GT, accord, and Camry race! (Yes I know the sonata and the K5 GT have the same engine, but still) would be awesome to see! Great video!!
It will come
the K5, sonata, and accord would be a good race
Honda, The Power of Dreams 😍 великолепные заезды👍
Да, он только 2.0 л мотором осталный два 2.5 и 3.5 конечно хонда малодец, если он 2.5 или 3.0 тогда он был бы самый быстрее!!!!
Accord is a sleeper for sure
Imo Honda makes better cars than Toyota for the same money, better all round. Fun and reliable.
K5 GT is even more of a sleeper
Welp. Guess the Camry sucks now 🙁
But I’d still take the xse v6 any day
It’s such a boat though
@@yourvault1612 You make it sound like it's a Dodge Charger.
@@La-yt1wr Not too far off
@@yourvault1612 yo mama a boat 🚣♀️
The seats are cardboard in those cars
Damn, The Accord should stay away from the Sonata N on the highway. The roll race was a murder, it got gapped so hard.
Makes sense given the fact that the Sonata has an extra 40 HP over the Accord plus it uses a DCT compared to the Accord's traditional 10-speed. From a roll, nothing else in the segment really stands a chance.
Oh yeah guess what, the accord will pass him when his Hyundai breaks down the road
Until the sonata throws a rod and the engine blow explodes lol!
@@ivands7249 won’t happen
@@zarakdurrani7584 won’t happen
Accord delivers every time! 👍
K5 GT is faster tho
@@Calwinn oh please
@@bradleyscarreviews no no he’s right
I don't know how you can say the Accord delivered, if he didn't have problems launching the sonata the Accord gets gapped every single race.
@@bradleyscarreviews who tf wants to drive something that will catch fire while driving….
You have to race k5 gt vs n line 🤩👏
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They are basically the same car. Same power train lol
@@fffmhftf7754 هه
Nline wins
Why Camry driver roll down his window? It’s still not a fair race anyway.
You honestly think the window being up will make any meaningful difference?
Bruh😂
@@2010ngojo yes it will lol especially when they r counting by the seconds and less
With a simple Hondata or ktune the accord all day
The Camry has a v6 with 300hp and still lost 💀💀💀 I doubt that window made a 60hp difference
I owned 3 Lexus GS 350-430 300 Hp cars from 1999 - 2010. Great sedan, 5.3 sec 0-60. My 2020 Honda Accord 2.0 T is every bit as as fast, and handles as well or more. Shocking.
That roll race...why honk it when you are just rolling up to the same speed to set up for the actual roll race, and then you floor it without honking? Shouldn't you honk when you are all at the same speed and then floor it? It looked like the two other drivers were completely caught off guard. Either way, Camry is a dinosaur and while it's a decent car, it's just not competitive in this set. Toyota needs to either make a performance oriented hybrid powertrain or just finally give the people a competitive turbo 4. The V6 was a great engine 15 years ago.... The Accord may not have the highest HP numbers but it's the one I'd buy. The Sonata is impressive though, certainly wouldn't fault anyone for buying one, but the Accord is an all around great performer and it's very comfortable to use as a daily driver.
Great races! Exactly what I wanted to see. Still trying to negotiate with Kia dealers regarding a new K5 GT as opposed to the GT1 which is about $5K more at close to $37K. The Hyundai sales people were annoying me. Accord is a great car, don't get me wrong, but these are the shiny new objects at the moment. I would not be surprised if Honda and Toyota are watching these and maybe taking some notes for the next generation models coming down the Pike. You are really the only one that is actually comparing all of these cars head to head. I guess Throttlehouse but they never figured out how to launch it correctly, not to mention the sub-zero conditions and a brand new car.
Thank you! More drags to come :)
@@SamCarLegion So, I did not get the K5 GT. Instead, yesterday I traded my 18 Accord Sport 2.0 for the Sonata Nline. So far, it is fantastic so hopefully that will continue. One thing is definite, the driver assist cruise control is significantly better. The car pretty much drives itself whereas the Accord ping pongs you between lanes before it all together just stops working.
@@mikescallon4288 Hey, if you don’t mind if you see this how is the N-line now? I purchased my 2021 SEL in May2021, nearing 1year ownership and wanting the sportier model…. Any issues or problems you’ve run into?
Where are all the camry people who swore the camry was faster than the accord. Lol . Loving that sonata it sounds like the beast it is 👍💪. That accord is still no joke though 😏😉
It is. It’s just that Toyota tuned it for fuel economy. Which sucks.
Never bought my Camry to race anyone . Fuk Honda lol
Right here. My 2009 Camry is faster than all of these.
@@TechNHC plus 1
But can your accord beat my scat pack?😂😂😂😂
I like the Sonata N Line the most because of the look and the interior.
It looks like a damn catfish
@@Saturdayz_In_The_Fall that’s not a bad thing imo
@@Saturdayz_In_The_Fall a beautifully unique, sexy, eye-catching catfish 😂
Like the Camry and the Honda more reliable
@@kristians2704 it's ugly. You must like ugly then. The sonata is a piece of shit. Anything goes fast with a turbo in it.
Would get the Sonata all the way! especially with that Dual Clutch Transmission!! Amazing work. From Hyundai once again !
That transmission is the downfall of that car 4 sure. Consistency is non existent.
@@downsouthlouisiana Are you kidding me? What makes you see the DCT is a bad transmission?
@@That1lowaccord nope, the k5 GT absolutely smoked the accord in drag races
@@That1lowaccord accord fan boys.... think their car is the best in the world
@@downsouthlouisiana really? Nah
Honda clearly underrates the power numbers on the Accord. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s really not a detuned version of the Civic Type R’s engine. Anything is possible 🤷🏽♂️
I understand that Hyundai was trying to control torque steer but it really does hurt the car that they didn't allow it to launch the way it should
I think the key here is that the Accord does a better job of putting the power down with a superior transmission and gearing despite having less power.
Cool video.
Love the Accord.
I own the N line I love it I had a 2018 accord 2.0t I enjoy the Sonata more! And Sam are you Albanian?
Good catch shqipe
Sonata is impressive but i still wonder about their reliability especially after modding it. Id take the accord all day long
Not a problem I’ve modded mine & I don’t have any problems with it so far
I can respect Hyundai for what they can bring but I would still take the Honda due to their long term reputation like Toyota. Mu neighbor has a 2020 accord touring with a Hondata Stage 2 and that thing pulls!!
Yes the camry is slower but it's leading in sales and fuel economy is just as good as accord so it's achieving its mission. And i did see the Trd beat Mazda in drag so it's not the slowest.
Not anymore the honda beat it in sales last year
@@kevanneclarke3363 no sir, don't know where u got your numbers from but they're wrong
@I hate Dummies who the fuck u calling fool I just mixed it up with corrlolla and civic Jesus Christ
So long as the Camry has fleet sales, it’ll have higher sales than the Accord.
@@MidnightAspec ok jeez I mixed up I know
I can only imagine how fast the Acura type S are gonna be
😂
4.5sec 0-60mph
@@phonoodles7002 its 5 seconds but fastest time was 4.9 that I have timed
@@coolsquad7428 nop, already 4.7 with a passenger !!
TLX Type S is around 4.5 seconds, Sofyan did 4.7 seconds with extra passenger.
My 2015 Accord sport still running strong.
Four years later and the Accord is still better than the competition
Many drivers reported that their Honda Accords had engine problems regarding oil consumption. The engines would burn through oil far more rapidly than usual, forcing drivers to replenish their oil too often. Replacing the oil could add up fast, and fixing the actual problem can cost $1,200 or more.
@@saadtheman1 don’t think 10th gen accords are showing this…
@@herbertwoodbery5471 not the k5 GT’ the k5 absolute smoked the accord
Sadly I expected the Camry to do better it just looks so sexy
I have a Camry. 2019 xse v6 as well. Idk who’s driving that Camry cause the Camry is definitely quicker than that.
Thought the same thing. I own one as well.
I think you should get another drive for the Sonata NLine. That did looked “lost”...
Sonata NLIne loose regardless who drives it. See "Throttle House" UA-cam channel since they ran the same cars against each other and the Sonata still got beat.
@@tousshong9438 🔥🔨
Mmg
The fact is You cant beat the Honda on looks, power, comfort, handling for the money
No way! 🤣 the Honda is one of the worst looks in the market, fast yes, but it looks like a roach
@@josephayala232 and what do u drive?
@@josephayala232 😆 kinda does.
@@josephayala232 അയല അല്ല മത്തി, എഴിച്ചു പോടാ 🤣
Sam, I'm the owner of the Honda ACCORD in Korea. Always enjoy your video.
It's true that ACCORD isn't as fast as a sports car or a supercar, but I'm sure it's one of the fastest family sedan in the world.
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Sonata is underrated cars they are really fast I got sonata 2011 and I hit 150 with it
Thank God I averted my attention from the Camry to a Honda Accord. The Camry is a sexy car but i definitely wanted something good looking with sport power as well. And I fell in love with the accord !
Ps: that’s not even the sport Honda(if I’m right) and it still dominated on the track!
You are right about it not being the sport Honda. However, the 2.0 automatically comes with a sport button on every trim level with an automatic transmission.
The Accord 2.0T is a LEGEND.
Lmao at the Camry. I literally had an XSE try to buck at me yesterday when I changed lanes (he tried to speed up and I have n N Line) and the same thing happened. Dude was left in the rearview mirror.
Thanks for the video.
Until a faster car shows up, then YOU will be left in the rear-view mirror🤗
See how that works???
It could have also been the 4 cylinder so not much to brag about LOL
@@dygardion9130 4 cylinder or v6...the n line shat on on them both 🤷♂️
@@Birdcomplex till that N line takes a shat and can’t run really soon 🤣
@@dygardion9130 Hyundai jokes are getting old and untruthful
That accord is a different breed
Honda just needs to bring the v-6 back with as much want as they put into a 2.0 -_-.
V6 would be slower.
You can hear the Sonatas tires struggle for traction up to 20-25mph.
That much power needs dedicated summer tires.
Id like to see the Accord driver, who always manages to stomp on the gas first, in the N-line. It would crush the Accord. And there's a launch mode I haven't seen used.
Besides straight line drag, Accord and Sonata utilize aluminum for suspension control arms, Camry is still steel all around.
Heavy
Sam you totally botched Those runs that Sonata is much faster than the Toyota or the Honda
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why is the accord touring always used, the sport 2.0 is lighter so theoretically its quicker. also the sonata is a '21 model so how about a '21 model accord... why? because honda says they recalibrated the throttle response for quicker acceleration.
This is the accord sport
@@SamCarLegion Honda Accord 2.0T Sport with Honda Accord 2.0T Touring wheels???? 🤔
@@PEREZCHOOCH exactly
@@SamCarLegion Touring. Full LED headlights , Front and Rear Parking sensors & Heads Up Display. Sport doesn't have those.
Hyundai has simply hobbled the Sonata N line and K5 GT so as not to cannibalize sales from the Genesis G70 and Stinger...think about it these cars are already getting sub 5.5 second 0-60 if launched right imagine what they can do with AWD and a proper launch control....
4.8-5.0 reported by others.
The Kia K5 GT is definitely more consistent than the Sonata N Line! Good race overall. Is this the beginning of the end for V6 engines? 👀
The beginning of the end for V6 engines began some time ago. In this particular case the 2.5L turbo that Hyundai, KIA, and Genesis are offering in at least 7(!) different vehicles appears to be an especially strong win/win with more power and better fuel economy than comparable V6 versions.
Honda stop long ago
No it's not the end for the v6 engine, if u look at the numbers the camry v6 gets just as good of fuel economy as the honda and that's what it's about. Besides toyota uses this v6 in other products.
@@mikeharris7261 I'm not arguing the value of a V6 engine. I'm talking about its market appeal. For example, less than 5% (!) of all Camrys are sold with its naturally aspirated V6. That's a major reason that Toyota doesn't offer AWD with that engine. The appeal of a V6 in a midsize sedan is simply not sufficient to justify the cost of design and production.
@@stephenhendricks103 Same could be said about honda when its v6 was in production. Yeah they went turbo but still they're not unloading a lot of up level or touring models either.
I like the video, I own a Sonata N Line and I can tell you from stop it's a slow car but when is rolling the tires after 40 miles and you hit the gas is a rocket 🚀... thank you for another great video Sir
Could you tell if he used the launch control? Sounded like he didn't. Ive gotten the best launch at around 2200 to 2500. At 3k it mitigates the torque too much.
@@21DN8N on the n line?
@@george.giannop Yes. The sonata N Line has Launch control. That you can adjust launch RPM on the Fly
@@21DN8N was referring to the rpm range of the launch.
Reminds me of a type r
Although the camry lost all the races. The exterior of the camry looks the best out of all in my opinion.
Gotta love the accord for being just a "sport" and not trying to piggy back off of more sports cars like a Si or a type R... GT for kia is the brand highest badge
Sonata is very clearly the fastest car here. From a roll it pulls and from a dead stop even when it’s last out the whole it pulled by the other 2 if the launch wasn’t too bad
I love my sonata after now
Good race
Thanks man 👍🏻
With some computer tuning the results I am sure will be different but the Honda really is a well rounded car. The Toyota with the v6 will do best for those who live more in hilly areras because of the larger displacement. Hyundai and kia are making great strides in improving their products.
Waiting to see the new Acura TLX type S awd in a drag race vs the civic type R.
I wanna see it against the Accord. The TLX is an absolute porker...
Golf R will smoke both lol 🤣🤣🤣
You have to know how to drive the Sonata and what mode to use, too much torque for the front wheels
For an everyday grocery getter it's strange that there's a learning curve. You would expect it to just go like the K5.